Nice flag...

So Ben decided he is going to put up all different flags from around the world every few days.

I think it’s a nice idea.

Great idea. Good to see the English flag.

magica wrote:Great idea. Good to see the English flag.

Yeah it’s nice to celebrate us all, every one of us from different places.

It will be fun to try and guess what country it is when we don’t recognise one.

Yeah, I'll do ones from around the world and I promise I'll try to avoid those boring-ass ones that just have like three fucking stripes. What the fuck is that?

Boring-ass flags for boring-ass cuntries if you ask me. And yes, I spelled cuntry correctly.

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:Yeah, I'll do ones from around the world and I promise I'll try to avoid those boring-ass ones that just have like three fucking stripes. What the fuck is that?

Boring-ass flags for boring-ass cuntries if you ask me. And yes, I spelled cuntry correctly.

You had to come along and chat fuckeries.

eddie wrote:

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:Yeah, I'll do ones from around the world and I promise I'll try to avoid those boring-ass ones that just have like three fucking stripes. What the fuck is that?

Boring-ass flags for boring-ass cuntries if you ask me. And yes, I spelled cuntry correctly.

You had to come along and chat fuckeries.

Does your hubby like winging edds lol

I do the English flag though thanks Ben .

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:I do the English flag though thanks Ben .

Isn't that flag desecration?



No, you're quite welcome.

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

eddie wrote:

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:Yeah, I'll do ones from around the world and I promise I'll try to avoid those boring-ass ones that just have like three fucking stripes. What the fuck is that?

Boring-ass flags for boring-ass cuntries if you ask me. And yes, I spelled cuntry correctly.

You had to come along and chat fuckeries.

Does your hubby like winging edds lol

Yeah. He does build, paint and then jump on his own bandwagon rather.

Next:



St. Andrews Cross...Flag of Scotland.

It has many uses, if you turn it on its edge...

meaty

https://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=AwrJS9d37sxbSAIAnVRLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTEybWRxcnRrBGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjYxNjdfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=utube+yorkshire+flag&fr=mcasa#id=23&vid=4c1e87dcf87bd22041ec1e2556374fe0&action=view

I have one of these flying at my house.

God alone knows what the commentator is on about though.......

Original Quill wrote:It has many uses, if you turn it on its edge...

Gosh!!





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On topic:
Dunno if i'll ever be sad enough to start a conservation about flags in real life.

But I'll certainly post about them on forums.
I once did a thread about flags and it ran to several pages.

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:Yeah, I'll do ones from around the world and I promise I'll try to avoid those boring-ass ones that just have like three fucking stripes. What the fuck is that?

Boring-ass flags for boring-ass cuntries if you ask me. And yes, I spelled cuntry correctly.

It gets worse - some have just 2 stripes!!   
In fact some have just one colour all over.


Problem is, there are approx 200 countries yet there are only 5 or 6 colours to play with, so designers have to be very creative, to make the flags look distinct from each other. The flags of holland & luxemburg are suspicious similar, ditto the flags of ireland & india!! 


The other problem is that there is no good synonym for flag so you have to keep repeating the same word over and over in your posts. 
 

Jules wrote:

*THE Ben Reilly* wrote:Yeah, I'll do ones from around the world and I promise I'll try to avoid those boring-ass ones that just have like three fucking stripes. What the fuck is that?

Boring-ass flags for boring-ass cuntries if you ask me. And yes, I spelled cuntry correctly.

It gets worse - some have just 2 stripes!!   
In fact some have just one colour all over.


Problem is, there are approx 200 countries yet there are only 5 or 6 colours to play with, so designers have to be very creative, to make the flags look distinct from each other. The flags of holland & luxemburg are suspicious similar, ditto the flags of ireland & india!! 


The other problem is that there is no good synonym for flag so you have to keep repeating the same word over and over in your posts. 
 

I'll just take some inspiration from the famous actor, Anthony Flags. Sorry, Antonio Banderas.

I'll refer to flags as banderas whenever I get bored of the word "flag" or just feel like breaking out my Spanish and saying "bandera."

Quizas la bandera de la proxima semana sera la bandera de Alemania.

The British Union [Jack] is the best there is !

I'll be w.aiting in anticipation

Of what ?

nicko wrote:
The British Union [Jack] is the best there is !

The "best" at what, exactly ???

The British Union Jack flag was designed to incorporate three separate flags from surrounding kingdoms.

The Union Jack flag of England is a very recognizable flag to most of the world. If fact, back in the colonial days it used to fly in the United States before the 13 colonies declared independence. Once the colonies did that, they soon designed and created their own flag with the stars and stripes design.

Do you know where the design inspiration originated from for the Union Jack Flag? Here is a little history on the infamous flag and from where exactly the British pulled the colors and design.

The current British flag is a combination of three heraldic crosses from England, Scotland, and Ireland. However, since 1921 only Northern Ireland has been included in the flag. The three crosses are:

The Red Cross of St. George
The Blue and White Saltire of St. Andrew
The Red and White Saltire of St. Patrick

The origins of this historic flag date all the way back to 1603. Scotland is represented by the flag blue and white flag of St. Andrew. The flag is comprised of a blue background with a diagonal white cross filling the entire flag.


Blue St. Andrew Flag of Scotland

Ireland (today, only the Northern part) contributes to the current Union Jack flag with St. Patrick’s Saltire. Their flag is a white field with a diagonal red cross that covers the entire flag.


St. Patrick Flag of Ireland

St. George’s cross comes from England. This flag is made up of a white background with a red standard cross. If you are wondering about Wales, it is not included since it is a principality and not a kingdom. For that reason it could not be included in the British Union Jack flag. The Wales flag includes a red dragon on a white and green background.


St. George Flag of England

When you combine all three of those flags you get the 1606 version of the Union Jack flag. One small revision was made in 1801: four additional smaller red diagonal stripes were added. Since then, Great Britain has flown the same Union Jack flag.


Union Jack Flag

Today, a few other world flags still incorporate the Union Jack Flag into their design. These  2 country flags are Australia and New Zealand. Click on the links to check out what those flag look like!

Credit: Business2Community.com

I think you'v got it wrong, our flag is the UNION FLAG, when flown from one of Our Majesty's ships the word JACK is added.

nicko wrote:I think you'v got it wrong,   our flag is the UNION FLAG,  when flown from one of Our Majesty's ships the word JACK is added.

It's just a publication I remember seeing, so I brought it over. It's called History of the British Union Jack Flag | United Kingdom Flag. Is there a difference between the two?
https://www.collinsflags.com/blog/archives/2492

nicko wrote:Of what ?

my flag

Quill, the flags are the same, as far as I know it's just a matter of proctocol or tradition. Years ago Sailors were called JACK TARS, might be useful to delve a bit more into it. I'm happy to be proved wrong !

nicko wrote:Quill, the flags are the same, as far as I know it's just a matter of proctocol  or tradition.    Years ago Sailors were called JACK TARS, might be useful to delve a bit more into it.   I'm happy to be proved wrong !

I don't think you are wrong. I'm just curious about all of the history of it. Google gives several answers:

Whether to use "Union Flag" or "Union Jack" is a matter of debate. The Flag Institute, the vexillological organisation for the United Kingdom, stated that the term Union Flag is a "relatively recent idea". Jack was a word previously used to denote any flag. It also noted that "From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack.

When the ‘Union Jack’ was first introduced in 1606, it was known simply as ‘the British flag’ or ‘the flag of Britain’, and was ordered to be flown at the main masthead of all ships, warships and merchant ships, of both England and Scotland.

Best Answer: No difference, the Union Flag is also known as the Union Jack, it is the name of national flag of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

What is commonly known as the Union Jack, the flag of the United Kingdom, is actually only called the Union Jack when it is flown on the jackstaff on the bow of a Royal Naval ship.

The Union Jack is let to fly on the ships also on sea but the Union Flag is let to fly on Land. That is the difference between the two two flags. Hope this Helps.

Wiki gives the best answer, I think:

Wiki wrote:The national flag of the United Kingdom is the Union Jack, also known as the Union Flag.

The current design of the Union Jack dates from the union of Ireland and Great Britain in 1801. It consists of the red cross of Saint George (patron saint of England), edged in white, superimposed on the Cross of St Patrick (patron saint of Ireland), which are superimposed on the Saltire of Saint Andrew (patron saint of Scotland). Wales is not represented in the Union Flag by Wales's patron saint, Saint David, as at the time the flag was designed Wales was part of the Kingdom of England.

The flag's standard height-to-length proportions are 1:2. The war flag variant used by the British Army modifies the proportions to 3:5 and crops two of the red diagonals.

The earlier flag of Great Britain was established in 1606 by a proclamation of King James VI and I of Scotland and England. The new flag of the United Kingdom was officially created by an Order in Council of 1801, reading as follows:

The Union Flag shall be azure, the Crosses saltire of Saint Andrew and Saint Patrick quarterly per saltire, counter-changed, argent and gules, the latter fimbriated of the second, surmounted by the Cross of Saint George of the third fimbriated as the saltire.

I was right then ?

And the reason Wales isn't represented on the Union Flag is because it's a fucking dragon that my six-year-old stepdaughter could have drawn better Wales was part of the Kingdom of England when the Union Flag was created.

nicko wrote:I was right then ?

If you said there is no difference, you were right. It's just a matter of where it is flown.

Ben wrote:And the reason Wales isn't represented on the Union Flag is because it's a fucking dragon that my six-year-old stepdaughter could have drawn better Wales was part of the Kingdom of England when the Union Flag was created.

It's...uh, pretty imaginative.

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

nicko wrote:
The British Union [Jack] is the best there is !

The "best" at what, exactly  ???

Flapping in the wind, apparently. I’m not sure what else flags do really.

Wolfie, for colour and pride. Do you know what was the original purpose of a countries flag ? If was if there was a point in a battle that if one of the sides was losing men, it was a place that the remainder could go to fight with their comrades . Hence the cry, "rally round the flag boys".!

nicko wrote:
Wolfie, for colour and pride.    Do you know what was the original purpose of a countries flag ?   If was if there was a  point in a battle that if one of the sides was losing men,   it was a place that the remainder could go to fight with their comrades .   Hence the cry, "rally round the flag boys".!  

Don't forget that the American, Aussie and Kiwi flags still have those same colours, nicko...

They were cut from the same colour cloth,  after all..

The French flag is nothing but...

Nice flag

A lot more interesting then the previous one
A lot more going on it, it like it contains everything the old one had plus some symbolic stars (the 'national' star and the southern cross constellation)

veya_victaous wrote:Nice flag

A lot more interesting then the previous one
A lot more going on it, it like it contains everything the old one had plus some symbolic stars (the 'national' star and the southern cross constellation)

Well, 25% of it is absolutely awesome

nicko wrote:Wolfie, for colour and pride.    Do you know what was the original purpose of a countries flag ?   If was if there was a  point in a battle that if one of the sides was losing men,   it was a place that the remainder could go to fight with their comrades .   Hence the cry, "rally round the flag boys".!  

That's why the Aussie and Kiwi flags are better
they look almost the same... even without the heat of battle
so we have a 'back up' flag to go to if we can't see our own
Plus the ANZAC code means we can fight under each others flags with pride.

Eilzel wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Nice flag

A lot more interesting then the previous one
A lot more going on it, it like it contains everything the old one had plus some symbolic stars (the 'national' star and the southern cross constellation)

Well, 25% of it is absolutely awesome

yeah I like the bit with the little star too

veya_victaous wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Nice flag

A lot more interesting then the previous one
A lot more going on it, it like it contains everything the old one had plus some symbolic stars (the 'national' star and the southern cross constellation)

Well, 25% of it is absolutely awesome

yeah I like the bit with the little star too

It is really a nice flag though. But I do wonder why Australia keeps the Union Flag up there. While I like the reminder of our past 'closeness' and all that, it seems a bit dated to me for two entirely independent nations to continue to have the flag of another within their own.

Colonialism is a big part of our history, for better or worse

I'd like to see it's current location replaced with the Aboriginal flag

but I'd probably replace the national star with a smaller union jack a similar size to the star
since the blue merges in anyway and the national star is meaningless

I was actually thinking that Aussies are far less patriotic about their flag than American or British
Probably because it is still the 'colonial' flag, same with the kiwis
But both of us have different emblems and national colours to the flag that we are patriotic to
Aussies to Green and gold and Kiwis to black and white
So the whole red white and blue thing doesn't carry over for us which may also be part of it
We both also have unique animal logos, we are skippy and kiwi after all
So the 'flag allegiance' is further down the list, we're just as happy with a boxing kangaroo

veya_victaous wrote:Colonialism is a big part of our history, for better or worse

I'd like to see it's current location replaced with the Aboriginal flag

but I'd probably replace the national star with a smaller union jack a similar size to the star
since the blue merges in anyway and the national star is meaningless

I was actually thinking that Aussies are far less patriotic about their flag than American or British
Probably because it is still the 'colonial' flag, same with the kiwis
But both of us have different emblems and national colours to the flag that we are patriotic to
Aussies to Green and gold and Kiwis to black and white
So the whole red white and blue thing doesn't carry over for us which may also be part of it
We both also have unique animal logos, we are skippy and kiwi after all
So the 'flag allegiance' is further down the list, we're just as happy with a boxing kangaroo

The boxing kangaroo makes he Welsh Flag seem positively classy tbf

I think pride in a flag has a lot to do with its meaning in history tbf.

For Americans their flag is all about standing against tyranny and becoming independent. A pretty powerful message. The Union Flag too, to a great extent, remains steeped in the memory of a world spanning empire and a symbol of defiance against Napoleon and Hitler when most the continent failed (that same sentimentality is at least part of the reason for the Brexit BS too).

the boxing kangaroo makes the Welsh flag positively classy
Now you've hurt my feelings, Eizel, I am insulted!

The "Boxing kangaroo" is a commercialised/advertising emblem, commonly used by sporting groups in international competition...

Made famous by the 'controversial'/infamous corporate raider and "white collar crim'" Alan Bond, who sponsored an Americas Cup winning yacht back in the 1980s..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Bond

Original Quill wrote:The French flag is nothing but...

That's those Frenchies for you...

Why waste good money actually designing a flag, when you could spend your 'hard earned' on wine and perfume instead ?

Eilzel wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

yeah I like the bit with the little star too

It is really a nice flag though. But I do wonder why Australia keeps the Union Flag up there. While I like the reminder of our past 'closeness' and all that, it seems a bit dated to me for two entirely independent nations to continue to have the flag of another within their own.

Like with veya,  I too would be happy enough to see the Union Jack replaced with the Aboriginal colours in that corner of the Aussie flag...

A few old lickspit monarchists and snowflake nationalists start whining and whinging whenever a new flag is mentioned -- though they are a dying breed, so that a new flag is "only a matter of 'when, not if'..".

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Original Quill wrote:The French flag is nothing but...

That's those Frenchies for you...

Why waste good money actually designing a flag, when you could spend your 'hard earned' on wine and perfume instead  ?

Yep, damn good food, too.

How 'bout the Canadian flag?



I tried to convince my Canadian friends to have a depiction of nine beavers, tails beating on a frog, but they rejected that idea.

Original Quill wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:


That's those Frenchies for you...

Why waste good money actually designing a flag, when you could spend your 'hard earned' on wine and perfume instead  ?

Yep, damn good food, too.

How 'bout the Canadian flag?



I tried to convince my Canadian friends to have a depiction of nine beavers, tails beating on a frog, but they rejected that idea.

Bearing in mind one interpretation of the word "beaver", don't you think that you are suggesting that the Canadians take a bit of a risk?

Ahh...the equivocation of language.

Soooo....without googling...what flag do we have now?

Fucked if I know. Is it an Indian flag?

Hey, Ben slipped Mexico in and I didn't notice.

Ya know, I've always thought the State of Maryland flag was colorful.