Is a ban, a ban for life?

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NemsAgain wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:I didn't ban him for what he said there -- all of this came after the ban. I only published it so people could see what Drinky's intent was -- both with the recipe, and what he plans to do here -- in his own words.

No, I didn't use ben_reilly as my name there. I joined last fall because I wanted to see what a few people here who had started to make trouble were like over there.

Well Dean knew it was you so you didnt really need to 'sneak' on there. Isnt that what you accused LR of doing here, sneaking on?

The difference was, I made no trouble at IAF and remain a member in good standing, and if I was warned that I was breaking the rules I'd either change my behavior or stop posting there.

TBF, I tried to let Dean know right away it was me but I lacked the ability to send him a PM.

eddie wrote:I hope that eventually people will settle down and we can all post in both places.
I don't believe in permanent bans for anyone, in any place.

It's hard at this point, because I now have no reason to trust Drinky to come back and be a productive member.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:I hope that eventually people will settle down and we can all post in both places.
I don't believe in permanent bans for anyone, in any place.

It's hard at this point, because I now have no reason to trust Drinky to come back and be a productive member.

Fair enough. Maybe with time...

Sure, maybe when it's blown over a bit.

eddie wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

It's hard at this point, because I now have no reason to trust Drinky to come back and be a productive member.

Fair enough. Maybe with time...

Shame that you didn't make the same plea, and you never said anything when Doug and i were being abused on Flap.

Shame that you haven't pulled up even one of the numerous abusive posts that Drinky (Clarkson) has made, against Doug and i on here.

Shame on you tbf.

Fuck off Eddie.

Catman wrote:Fuck off Eddie.

there you have it, nobody abusing anyone just questioning, and in jumps Mr Starter with abuse thrown at the one person who constantly defended them, Eddie, who stuck up for you countless times, for you to repay her by telling her to fuck off.
You really have no heart or care for how others have constantly stuck by you only again for you to throw it in their faces

I hope you are proud of yourself to say that to the one person who has always cared for you constantly

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:Fuck off Eddie.

there you have it, nobody abusing anyone just questioning, and in jumps Mr Starter with abuse thrown at the one person who constantly defended them, Eddie, who stuck up for you countless times, for you to repay her by telling her to fuck off.
You really have no heart or care for how others have constantly stuck by you only again for you to throw it in their faces

I hope you are proud of yourself to say that to the one person who has always cared for you constantly

Hmmm

I would suggest that you pull up some of your RW colleagues, when they post abuse, or criticisms.   

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:Fuck off Eddie.

there you have it, nobody abusing anyone just questioning, and in jumps Mr Starter with abuse thrown at the one person who constantly defended them, Eddie, who stuck up for you countless times, for you to repay her by telling her to fuck off.
You really have no heart or care for how others have constantly stuck by you only again for you to throw it in their faces

I hope you are proud of yourself to say that to the one person who has always cared for you constantly

Yes, it's totally unproductive and unhelpful to jump back into something like this when it's fizzling down and stoke the flames back up!

Actually...Sphinx warned me about saying anything about Eddie on here, she said that it would be a bad move!....And if i did, that all hope would be lost for me!

  

Catman wrote:Actually...Sphinx warned me about saying anything about Eddie on here, she said that it would be a bad move!....And if i did, that all hope would be lost for me!

  

OK, Catman, can we be done with this now?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Catman wrote:Actually...Sphinx warned me about saying anything about Eddie on here, she said that it would be a bad move!....And if i did, that all hope would be lost for me!

  

OK, Catman, can we be done with this now?

Yes, OK.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

there you have it, nobody abusing anyone just questioning, and in jumps Mr Starter with abuse thrown at the one person who constantly defended them, Eddie, who stuck up for you countless times, for you to repay her by telling her to fuck off.
You really have no heart or care for how others have constantly stuck by you only again for you to throw it in their faces

I hope you are proud of yourself to say that to the one person who has always cared for you constantly

Yes, it's totally unproductive and unhelpful to jump back into something like this when it's fizzling down and stoke the flames back up!

Correct it is and you see again who does it, the point sometimes you miss Ben, not having a go, but have been her before. I do not want anyone to be banned but some do certainly stoke the flames, as did drinky, which you were correct in your actions and he should drop this nonsense and just come back and debate

Anyway my point is valid how he has had eddie look out for him for ages, something I find noble to hen have that response is appalling

PhilDidge wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Yes, it's totally unproductive and unhelpful to jump back into something like this when it's fizzling down and stoke the flames back up!

Correct it is and you see again who does it, the point sometimes you miss Ben, not having a go, but have been her before. I do not want anyone to be banned but some do certainly stoke the flames, as did drinky, which you were correct in your actions and he should drop this nonsense and just come back and debate

Anyway my point is valid how he has had eddie look out for him for ages, something I find noble to hen have that response is appalling

I haven't spoken to Eddie for quite a while, but posted a welcome, on her welcome thread!

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Correct it is and you see again who does it, the point sometimes you miss Ben, not having a go, but have been her before. I do not want anyone to be banned but some do certainly stoke the flames, as did drinky, which you were correct in your actions and he should drop this nonsense and just come back and debate

Anyway my point is valid how he has had eddie look out for him for ages, something I find noble to hen have that response is appalling

I haven't spoken to Eddie for quite a while, but posted a welcome, on her welcome thread!

Good, then respect the person that sticks up for you and not throw it in her face telling her to fuck off

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:

I haven't spoken to Eddie for quite a while, but posted a welcome, on her welcome thread!

Good, then respect the person that sticks up for you and not throw it in her face telling her to fuck off

Grow up!

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Good, then respect the person that sticks up for you and not throw it in her face telling her to fuck off

Grow up!

Yes you need to, again treat people with respect that have always looked out for you, nobody was starting, and you come bowling in and start again

FGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Apologies Ben, but I have got to say this.   Has it not occurred to you Didge that Catman probably breathed a huge sigh of relief when he new Drinky wasn't going to be around to deliberately be as nasty as he could over and over.   Then he came back, was given a second chance, and did the same thing again and boasted about it.  So off he went again.   Then out of the blue, someone who Cat trusts started questioning why he was banned and saying let him back.   You don't think that is going to worry Catman and make him feel uneasy?

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:

Grow up!

Yes you need to, again treat people with respect that have always looked out for you, nobody was starting, and you come bowling in and start again

Your agenda has been clear all along...So fuck off Dodge.   

Actually Sassy I want Drinky to come to his senses, not any sigh of relief and come back and want to debate here and respect this is Ben's place, I also wish others will respect other posters without constant abuse. Banter is fine mind, but Drinky is like you and anyone else a poster who adds to debate that sadly takes it too far in this case, which many are guilty of.

Nobody should need to be banned unless they wish to disrupt, if they cease that view, then all should be welcomed back

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Yes you need to, again treat people with respect that have always looked out for you, nobody was starting, and you come bowling in and start again

Your agenda has been clear all along...So fuck off Dodge.   

Phil, no more eh?

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Yes you need to, again treat people with respect that have always looked out for you, nobody was starting, and you come bowling in and start again

Your agenda has been clear all along...So fuck off Dodge.   

I rest my case, no my agenda is one thing, you to stay here but be polite and not abusive

PhilDidge wrote:Actually Sassy I want Drinky to come to his senses, not any sigh of relief and come back and want to debate here and respect this is Ben's place, I also wish others will respect other posters without constant abuse. Banter is fine mind, but Drinky is like you and anyone else a poster who adds to debate that sadly takes it too far in this case, which many are guilty of.

Nobody should need to be banned unless they wish to disrupt, if they cease that view, then all should be welcomed back

Drinky has already stated what he wanted to do, bring down this board, Ben would be mad to let him back. Add to the debate? That might be your opinion.

Now for crying out loud, enough already.

Sassy wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:Actually Sassy I want Drinky to come to his senses, not any sigh of relief and come back and want to debate here and respect this is Ben's place, I also wish others will respect other posters without constant abuse. Banter is fine mind, but Drinky is like you and anyone else a poster who adds to debate that sadly takes it too far in this case, which many are guilty of.

Nobody should need to be banned unless they wish to disrupt, if they cease that view, then all should be welcomed back

Drinky has already stated what he wanted to do, bring down this board, Ben would be mad to let him back.   Add to the debate?   That might be your opinion.

Now for crying out loud, enough already.

Yes he did and have seen many posters disrupt forms, as thus anyone who wants to then change which all do can come back, you and I do not decide and thus have better faith in Ben than I do you, when you have advocated me to be banned before yourself

Sassy wrote:FGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Apologies Ben, but I have got to say this.   Has it not occurred to you Didge that Catman probably breathed a huge sigh of relief when he new Drinky wasn't going to be around to deliberately be as nasty as he could over and over.   Then he came back, was given a second chance, and did the same thing again and boasted about it.  So off he went again.   Then out of the blue, someone who Cat trusts started questioning why he was banned and saying let him back.   You don't think that is going to worry Catman and make him feel uneasy?

Not a problem, and that's one of the things I'm thinking about with all this ... mess.

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:

Your agenda has been clear all along...So fuck off Dodge.   

I rest my case, no my agenda is one thing, you to stay here but be polite and not abusive

Quite a few of your posts would suggest otherwise, since you use the same spiel, that the fat RW fuck Dean used, as a reason to ban me, that being that all forum troubles are my fault, without accepting the fact that the RW scum were causing the majority of the problems, by posting terrible homophobia against my partner and i, which most of it i ignored!

Why don't you fuck off to the flop cave, and devise a new strategy that won't work again!

      

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


I rest my case, no my agenda is one thing, you to stay here but be polite and not abusive

Quite a few of your posts would suggest otherwise, since you use the same spiel, that the fat RW fuck Dean used, as a reason to ban me, that being that all forum troubles are my fault, without accepting the fact that the RW scum were causing the majority of the problems, by posting terrible homophobia against my partner and i, which most of it i ignored!

Why don't you fuck off to the flop cave, and devise a new strategy that won't work again!

      

I rest my case again, more infantile abuse, neglecting the fact I stand against homophobic people


DOH

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:

Quite a few of your posts would suggest otherwise, since you use the same spiel, that the fat RW fuck Dean used, as a reason to ban me, that being that all forum troubles are my fault, without accepting the fact that the RW scum were causing the majority of the problems, by posting terrible homophobia against my partner and i, which most of it i ignored!

Why don't you fuck off to the flop cave, and devise a new strategy that won't work again!

      

I rest my case again, more infantile abuse, neglecting the fact I stand against homophobic people


DOH

Your just a joke Dodge, a Tory C**T, cap doffer etc...

I would admit to wanting Tory RW scum like you, put into stocks, and pelted with eggs, and i'm being quite liberal  ::zomb:: there!

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Catman wrote:

Quite a few of your posts would suggest otherwise, since you use the same spiel, that the fat RW fuck Dean used, as a reason to ban me, that being that all forum troubles are my fault, without accepting the fact that the RW scum were causing the majority of the problems, by posting terrible homophobia against my partner and i, which most of it i ignored!

Why don't you fuck off to the flop cave, and devise a new strategy that won't work again!

      

I rest my case again, more infantile abuse, neglecting the fact I stand against homophobic people


DOH

Your just a joke Dodge, a Tory C**T, cap doffer etc...

I would admit to wanting Tory RW scum like you, put into stocks, and pelted with eggs, and i'm being quite liberal  ::zomb:: there!

Could you please cut it the fuck out already?

PhilDidge wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Drinky has already stated what he wanted to do, bring down this board, Ben would be mad to let him back.   Add to the debate?   That might be your opinion.

Now for crying out loud, enough already.

Yes he did and have seen many posters disrupt forms, as thus anyone who wants to then change which all do can come back, you and I do not decide and thus have better faith in Ben than I do you, when you have advocated me to be banned before yourself

You obviously believed whoever told you that, but it's a lie.   The first time you were banned on SF, every person agreed with Victor but Les, absolutely everyone. Les said if Victor was going to do it perhaps he would reconsider later.   The second time was Victor's decision and nobody recommended he do it, he decided.   And contrary to probably what you have been told, nobody cheered either.   In fact, I believe the page after you were banned was sent to Nems to prove it.   So you are believing a big fat lie from some very manipulative people.   And that's fact.

Sassy wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Yes he did and have seen many posters disrupt forms, as thus anyone who wants to then change which all do can come back, you and I do not decide and thus have better faith in Ben than I do you, when you have advocated me to be banned before yourself

You obviously believed whoever told you that, but it's a lie.   The first time you were banned on SF, every person agreed with Victor but Les, absolutely everyone. Les said if Victor was going to do it perhaps he would reconsider later.   The second time was Victor's decision and nobody recommended he do it, he decided.   And contrary to probably what you have been told, nobody cheered either.   In fact, I believe the page after you were banned was sent to Nems to prove it.   So you are believing a big fat lie from some very manipulative people.   And that's fact.

No I just remember you banning me for not being in agreement and then posting a smile saying you are banned, I am not talking about the second time and even there others disagreed, which matters little, as you have wanted me banned simply because you do not like the way I post counters, being I challenge your views. That says to me you wish to stifle debate.
So stop trying to excuse what you wanted before, you did, I though have gotten over it, but please do not tell lies.

What is done is done sassy and hold no grudge against anyone including you

I'm not telling lies Phil, those are the facts, Victor banned you both times that were permanent, and the second time they had left as mods bar Nems, who left immediately after, and no comment was made.   Thats the truth of the matter.

Sassy wrote:I'm not telling lies Phil, those are the facts, and the second time they had left as mods bar Nems, who left immediately after, and no comment was made.

Again I am talking about the first time, you banned me for talking back to you being a mod, again what was done then was done, you have no say here and I am glad for that, because sorry I do not trust you and never will for that.

Other than that I wish you all the best

Please, could we all drop this? I don't see anything being accomplished here.

Its dropped Ben

With pleasure, don't know how we got to that.

Let's look at the facts:

It was clearly done as an insult.

Days after being banned there were new members who were overly left wing, but at times they blew their cover.

Phil you cans tell me to fuck off as many times as you like, your temper has never been very good at staying put.
Use your own instincts in every matter: I don't actually care if drinky comes back or not; I'd rather there were more people to debate with but I don't like abusive people so if he's going to be abusive then I'd rather he stayed away.
I was curious as to why Ben had actually banned him for the recipe thing and I admitted and conceded my point. Then I was curious as to why he banned Liberal Revival ID as I couldn't see what he'd said that was wrong? My point was, is a ban a ban for life? Because if it isn't then LR should not have been banned simply for being drinky. Get all that???

Now as for your troubles on Flap - I wasn't fucking there!! I was busy having a baby and having sleepless nights! Sorry I didn't put you and Doug before Jasmine, obviously I had my priorities wrong!! - And that's sarcasm Phil, in case you didn't get it, because at times you don't seem to cope very well with the written word.

Now if you want me to fuck off Phil, I will. I actually have no idea why Sphinx would say "don't upset Eddie on here"??????
Am I the fucking mafia all of a sudden.

Sphinx when you get online if you see this I'd like an explanation please. Thanks. I'm sure it'll make sense when you tell me.


And Ben, don't come along and ask me to drop it yet, as I need to speak to sphinx ok? Thanks.
If you prefer I'm sure we can do it via PM.

Sassy wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Yes he did and have seen many posters disrupt forms, as thus anyone who wants to then change which all do can come back, you and I do not decide and thus have better faith in Ben than I do you, when you have advocated me to be banned before yourself

You obviously believed whoever told you that, but it's a lie.   The first time you were banned on SF, every person agreed with Victor but Les, absolutely everyone. Les said if Victor was going to do it perhaps he would reconsider later.   The second time was Victor's decision and nobody recommended he do it, he decided.   And contrary to probably what you have been told, nobody cheered either.   In fact, I believe the page after you were banned was sent to Nems to prove it.   So you are believing a big fat lie from some very manipulative people.   And that's fact.

Nothing was sent to me
Stop dragging me into your alternative reality.
Manipulator thy name is Sassy.

Cue a paranoia comment and another oh so bwave but loaded signature quote

Catman wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


I rest my case, no my agenda is one thing, you to stay here but be polite and not abusive

Quite a few of your posts would suggest otherwise, since you use the same spiel, that the fat RW fuck Dean used, as a reason to ban me, that being that all forum troubles are my fault, without accepting the fact that the RW scum were causing the majority of the problems, by posting terrible homophobia against my partner and i, which most of it i ignored!

Why don't you fuck off to the flop cave, and devise a new strategy that won't work again!

      

are you denying that you sent hate mail to Dean , a barrage of abusive and filthy emails worthy of any childish troll.

Puriel wrote:

Catman wrote:

Quite a few of your posts would suggest otherwise, since you use the same spiel, that the fat RW fuck Dean used, as a reason to ban me, that being that all forum troubles are my fault, without accepting the fact that the RW scum were causing the majority of the problems, by posting terrible homophobia against my partner and i, which most of it i ignored!

Why don't you fuck off to the flop cave, and devise a new strategy that won't work again!

      

are you denying that you sent hate mail to Dean , a barrage of abusive and filthy emails worthy of any childish troll.

Well he certainly sent the most offensive and hate filled ones to the admin on SF. It was so bad they had to disable the facility for non members to contact admin.

Puriel wrote:
I think 99.9% of people reading the 'Mince' post would find it highly amusing and only a militant Gay would find it not.

  

YOU are a very strange little "girly boy", Bloggsy !!!

Beekeeper wrote:

Puriel wrote:
I think 99.9% of people reading the 'Mince' post would find it highly amusing and only a militant Gay would find it not.

  

YOU are a very strange little "girly boy", Bloggsy !!!

the 0.1% speaks .  

no a dog is for life... :D 

NemsAgain wrote:

Sassy wrote:

You obviously believed whoever told you that, but it's a lie.   The first time you were banned on SF, every person agreed with Victor but Les, absolutely everyone. Les said if Victor was going to do it perhaps he would reconsider later.   The second time was Victor's decision and nobody recommended he do it, he decided.   And contrary to probably what you have been told, nobody cheered either.   In fact, I believe the page after you were banned was sent to Nems to prove it.   So you are believing a big fat lie from some very manipulative people.   And that's fact.

Nothing was sent to me
Stop dragging me into your alternative reality.
Manipulator thy name is Sassy.

Cue a paranoia comment and another oh so bwave but loaded signature quote

OK, I don't normally see your posts, but luckily I read this thread before I logged on. You really have turned into the biggest liar on the planet.

You resigned as a mod just after Victor did the thread in the Mod Section that said he had banned Didge. After you resigned you started a thread in another section asking for a copy of that thread because you were sure that after the announcement I had cheered, when all I actually had said was 'ok Victor'. Because Victor and TTS were not logged on, I pm'd you a copy of the thread up to the point you had left as a mod and added a note onto the thread in the mod section to tell them I had done so.

Now if you deny that, you and I will both know it is an outright lie and we will both know how far you have sunk in your ridiculous vendetta.

Sassy wrote:

NemsAgain wrote:

Nothing was sent to me
Stop dragging me into your alternative reality.
Manipulator thy name is Sassy.

Cue a paranoia comment and another oh so bwave but loaded signature quote

OK, I don't normally see your posts, but luckily I read this thread before I logged on.   You really have turned into the biggest liar on the planet.

You resigned as a mod just after Victor did the thread in the Mod Section that said he had banned Didge.   After you resigned you started a thread in another section asking for a copy of that thread because you were sure that after the announcement I had cheered, when all I actually had said was 'ok Victor'.   Because Victor and TTS were not logged on, I pm'd you a copy of the thread up to the point you had left as a mod and added a note onto the thread in the mod section to tell them I had done so.  

Now if you deny that, you and I will both know it is an outright lie and we will both know how far you have sunk in your ridiculous vendetta.



 

She's warped and pathetic.
Is she married/has a partner?
I don't think that anyone in their right mind would be able to put up with that thing for more than about five minutes.
  

Phil, let's not make it personal, that isn't the road to go down. Stick to the facts, they tell the truth.

Sassy wrote:

NemsAgain wrote:

Nothing was sent to me
Stop dragging me into your alternative reality.
Manipulator thy name is Sassy.

Cue a paranoia comment and another oh so bwave but loaded signature quote

OK, I don't normally see your posts, but luckily I read this thread before I logged on.   You really have turned into the biggest liar on the planet.

Bullshit

You resigned as a mod just after Victor did the thread in the Mod Section that said he had banned Didge.
We all resigned as mods because of your behaviour

  After you resigned you started a thread in another section asking for a copy of that thread because you were sure that after the announcement I had cheered, when all I actually had said was 'ok Victor'.   Because Victor and TTS were not logged on, I pm'd you a copy of the thread up to the point you had left as a mod and added a note onto the thread in the mod section to tell them I had done so.  

I asked admin something and you took it upon your self to respond did you no change there then.

Now if you deny that, you and I will both know it is an outright lie and we will both know how far you have sunk in your ridiculous vendetta.
I was not the only one who commented on your triumphalist attitude when Didge left.



 

I know what comment I mean and I have never ever seen it again since I resigned.
How about dropping this now and getting over yourself?
You are unimportant. I know being Alpha female on a chat forum is everything to you but leave me the fuck out of it.
You are well on your way to destroying this place too.
You are the nastiest piece of work I have encountered in a long long time.
Leave me alone.

Catman wrote:

Sassy wrote:


OK, I don't normally see your posts, but luckily I read this thread before I logged on.   You really have turned into the biggest liar on the planet.

You resigned as a mod just after Victor did the thread in the Mod Section that said he had banned Didge.   After you resigned you started a thread in another section asking for a copy of that thread because you were sure that after the announcement I had cheered, when all I actually had said was 'ok Victor'.   Because Victor and TTS were not logged on, I pm'd you a copy of the thread up to the point you had left as a mod and added a note onto the thread in the mod section to tell them I had done so.  

Now if you deny that, you and I will both know it is an outright lie and we will both know how far you have sunk in your ridiculous vendetta.



 

She's warped and pathetic.
Is she married/has a partner?
I don't think that anyone in their right mind would be able to put up with that thing for more than about five minutes.
  

Why dont you fuck right off you miserable excuse for a human being.