Universities spent £10m on unions in year strikes brought teaching to a standstill

Original Quill wrote:Thank god for it.  Nothing could be more anti-middle class--certainly anti-American--than union busting that goes on today.

Labor has done more to advance the cause of humanity, than any other movement.  In this union-busting environment of the past 30-years, we have seen 99% of wealth and income go into the pockets of 1% of the people.  With numbers like that, you know the system is rigged.

How about busting up the Heritage Foundation, or similar organizations that promote the interests of billionaires?

Didge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:Thank god for it.  Nothing could be more anti-middle class--certainly anti-American--than union busting that goes on today.

Labor has done more to advance the cause of humanity, than any other movement.  In this union-busting environment of the past 30-years, we have seen 99% of wealth and income go into the pockets of 1% of the people.  With numbers like that, you know the system is rigged.

How about busting up the Heritage Foundation, or similar organizations that promote the interests of billionaires?

Have they, like what?

Nothing worse than unions, who do little for the very people they suppsoedlly claim to want to help

All they care about is the ideology that they follow

Thank goodness, that in this country, Thatcher broke the back of such militants

Her finest hour

Original Quill wrote:

Didge wrote:

Have they, like what?

Nothing worse than unions, who do little for the very people they suppsoedlly claim to want to help

All they care about is the ideology that they follow

Thank goodness, that in this country, Thatcher broke the back of such militants

Her finest hour

Don't be silly.  You're just a mouthpiece for the plutocracy.  If you really believed in democracy, you would see that unions comprise an interest group for the average person, who happens to be an average worker.

The time of the billionaires has run its course.  

nicko wrote:Quill, did you worship Arthur Scargill ?   Aman who started off with a small house and large Union,  and ended up with a large house and a small union !

Original Quill wrote:

nicko wrote:Quill, did you worship Arthur Scargill ?   Aman who started off with a small house and large Union,  and ended up with a large house and a small union !

I don't know who he is.  But if your going to accuse a union man of corruption, you might as well start with every millionaire ++ you know.  They are all crooks with higher priced lawyers.

If you want to remove corruption, put all rich men in jail.

Didge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Don't be silly.  You're just a mouthpiece for the plutocracy.  If you really believed in democracy, you would see that unions comprise an interest group for the average person, who happens to be an average worker.

The time of the billionaires has run its course.  

Nothing silly about it. Thatcher was able to smash the very backbone of such socialists militants, which let them basically moot for decades. Unions are in no way democratic. That is the failing that you have in understanding Unions in the UK and as seen money has been abused to fuel disconent, not anything to advance the students themselves

Your last statement proves everything that is wrong with the left and their hate and distain for anyone successful and rich

I think the western Europe is turning more right wing and that is all down to the militancy and political correctness of the left

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Didge wrote:


Nothing silly about it. Thatcher was able to smash the very backbone of such socialists militants, which let them basically moot for decades. Unions are in no way democratic. That is the failing that you have in understanding Unions in the UK and as seen money has been abused to fuel disconent, not anything to advance the students themselves

Your last statement proves everything that is wrong with the left and their hate and distain for anyone successful and rich

I think the western Europe is turning more right wing and that is all down to the militancy and political correctness of the left

From all of the bullshit Dodge has written above, we can see where he is coming from --

Dodge is anti-worker  --  he wants unions removed, and all of the power returned to the bosses;

Dodge is anti-Democracy --  he supports money over and above workers;  Dodge admires Thatcher because she brought in anti-Union laws..

Thatcher also virtually destroyed Britain's manufacturing base, while leaving Coal Mining communities to rot after she closed down their core industries..

Dodge still admires Thatcher's "Trickle Down" policies, despite that 'voodoo ecomics' being long disprover as the rubbish it is..

Despite all of the hardships, the inequalities and the faux "austerity" measures that those conservative governments have given to Britain,  Dodge is still arrogant enough, greedy enough and foolish enough to pass off workers and pensioners complaints as merely being "jealousy" from the left over what he perceives as the "successes" of the greedy corporations and their billionaire owners...

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

You really are a fuckwit, Dodger...

As I'm clearly attacking each of your bullshit points as you presented them over recent days..

As well as the sycophantic rich-arse-licking twat who writes that anti-worker garbage.

Original Quill wrote:He's not worth it, wolf.  He's empty.  Look at that youtube...I've not cared, but he's used it over and over.  He's numb...got nothing left.

Didge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:
He's not worth it, wolf.  He's empty.  Look at that youtube...I've not cared, but he's used it over and over.  He's numb...got nothing left.

Didge wrote:Universities spent almost £10 million supporting “aggressive political campaigns” by lecturers last year, figures have shown, as mass strikes disrupted exams and teaching across the country. Data released by the government shows that UK universities spent £9.8m on paying lecturers and other employees to work for their unions during work hours. Universities, who draw a large portion of their income from student loans, accounted for 12% of the total public sector spend on union rep pay, and more than 70% of the spend in the education sector.

The reporting period for the data included series of strikes by the lecturers’ union UCU, which brought teaching and examinations to a standstill in universities across the country, cancelled lectures and saw staff forming picket lines around university libraries. Last month UCU opened a consultation of its members over the possibility of new strikes in the next academic year. James Duddridge, a former Conservative minister who was part of a group of MPs that called on the government to toughen anti-strike laws last year, told The Telegraph that unions should organise in employees' own time.

“No one should be paid by the state to be a full time union official,” he said.

“The state should not pay for people to organise others to not turn up to do work the state pay them to do.”

So-called ‘facility time’ pay is the practice of allowing staff to undertake trade union business during work hours.

This is the first year that public institutions have been required to report their spend on facility time.

University spending on union pay last year was higher than spending by the police and schools combined, but less than the £11.5 total spend of the NHS. The highest bills for full-time union workers were paid by Labour-run councils, which spent £1.1m on staff in Birmingham and £500,000 in Liverpool.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/09/universities-spent-10m-unions-year-strikes-brought-teaching/

To get back on topic

As seen its appalling that the money is being spent on people

“No one should be paid by the state to be a full time union official,” he said.

“The state should not pay for people to organise others to not turn up to do work the state pay them to do.”

Didge wrote:Universities spent almost £10 million supporting “aggressive political campaigns” by lecturers last year, figures have shown, as mass strikes disrupted exams and teaching across the country. Data released by the government shows that UK universities spent £9.8m on paying lecturers and other employees to work for their unions during work hours. Universities, who draw a large portion of their income from student loans, accounted for 12% of the total public sector spend on union rep pay, and more than 70% of the spend in the education sector.

The reporting period for the data included series of strikes by the lecturers’ union UCU, which brought teaching and examinations to a standstill in universities across the country, cancelled lectures and saw staff forming picket lines around university libraries. Last month UCU opened a consultation of its members over the possibility of new strikes in the next academic year. James Duddridge, a former Conservative minister who was part of a group of MPs that called on the government to toughen anti-strike laws last year, told The Telegraph that unions should organise in employees' own time.

“No one should be paid by the state to be a full time union official,” he said.

“The state should not pay for people to organise others to not turn up to do work the state pay them to do.”

So-called ‘facility time’ pay is the practice of allowing staff to undertake trade union business during work hours.

This is the first year that public institutions have been required to report their spend on facility time.

University spending on union pay last year was higher than spending by the police and schools combined, but less than the £11.5 total spend of the NHS. The highest bills for full-time union workers were paid by Labour-run councils, which spent £1.1m on staff in Birmingham and £500,000 in Liverpool.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/09/universities-spent-10m-unions-year-strikes-brought-teaching/

To get back on topic

As seen its appalling that the money is being spent on people

“No one should be paid by the state to be a full time union official,” he said.

“The state should not pay for people to organise others to not turn up to do work the state pay them to do.”