The leader of the antisemite party is facing further questions

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/18/jeremy-corbyn-facing-questions-whether-broke-parliamentary-rules/

seems that corbyn does not like declaring his paid for jollies to terrorist conferences.

It seems he hasn't declared up to 10 trips abroad, more are sure to come up now the press has the bit between their teeth.
Corbyn could be suspended for 30 days if it is proved he did not declare them. that surely should mean any leader of any other party would be forced to resign.

Don't suspend him, sack the two faced bastard !

nicko wrote:Don't suspend him, sack the two faced bastard !

parliament can only suspend him for a month. It would be up to his party to sack him

Corbyn is the only chance the Conservatives have to remain in power after the next GE.
If and when Labour replace him, it will cast another spell in the wilderness for the Tories, just as Blair did to Major..
Bring it on.

Angry Andy wrote:Corbyn is the only chance the Conservatives have to remain in power after the next GE.
If and when Labour replace him, it will cast another spell in the wilderness for the Tories, just as Blair did to Major..
Bring it on.

Now who was it who strutted around a stage in Sheffield claiming victory to the chanting of "we're awright, we're awright..." because of such a confident prediction was being made right up to the count - only to be interrupted by an aide with the bad news that, er, he had lost?

Kinnock or something or another, wasn't it?

So no denying my statement will almost certainly occur?

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Angry Andy wrote:Corbyn is the only chance the Conservatives have to remain in power after the next GE.
If and when Labour replace him, it will cast another spell in the wilderness for the Tories, just as Blair did to Major..
Bring it on.

Now who was it who strutted around a stage in Sheffield claiming victory to the chanting of "we're awright, we're awright..." because of such a confident prediction was being made right up to the count - only to be interrupted by an aide with the bad news that, er, he had lost?

Kinnock or something or another, wasn't it?

Much like the arrogant confidence of a certain Mrs May, who was so sure she'd clean house she barely even bothered campaigning after calling a sudden early election, Lord Ed

Arrogance in politics is something endemic across the benches

Eilzel wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Now who was it who strutted around a stage in Sheffield claiming victory to the chanting of "we're awright, we're awright..." because of such a confident prediction was being made right up to the count - only to be interrupted by an aide with the bad news that, er, he had lost?

Kinnock or something or another, wasn't it?

Much like the arrogant confidence of a certain Mrs May, who was so sure she'd clean house she barely even bothered campaigning after calling a sudden early election, Lord Ed

Arrogance in politics is something endemic across the benches

Yes, Theresa May too, although she did actually win and stay in power - albeit by a whisker and at the price of her previously good political record - whereas Kinnock was utterly stupid in not waiting for the result before, in effect, claiming victory.

And you're right, sheer arrogance is rife across the board in party politics.

Angry Andy wrote:So no denying my statement will almost certainly occur?

I do not necessarily concur; should Corbyn be replaced much would depend on who would replace him.

Personally I don't think that a member of the largely discredited Labour old guard would be able to sway the huge number of don't-knows who really hold the key, particularly the "grey vote" who remember brash Blair's unenviable record and the clapped-out Brown administration's failures, whereas a new, bright, charismatic figure coming up with fresh ideas rather than traditional political dogma could well achieve the result that you envisage.

I'll chuck one name into the pot: Dav Jarvis. Unknown? Yes. Unbloodied on the battlefield of politics? Yes.

But so was Emmanuel Macron.

Jarvis is a good shout. Young, fresh, ex military. With a cabinet backbone of Yvette Cooper, Chukka Ummanna, Keir Starmer and Frank Field, that has an electable look about it.

Angry Andy wrote:Jarvis is a good shout. Young, fresh, ex military. With a cabinet backbone of Yvette Cooper, Chukka Ummanna, Keir Starmer and Frank Field, that has an electable look about it.

I would class Cooper as part of the old guard - plus she would have the millstone of too close an association with that weirdo Ed Balls to contend with. Chuka Umunna? Maybe a couple of years ago. Starmer? Can't stand the feller, but as I wouldn't be a potential supporter my opinion is probably valueless. Field? Excellent though he may be, I'm afraid the chap is now probably past it, particularly with the growing "youth vote" holding about the same level of consideration and respect for age as this forum's very own resident ageist Veya.

Eilzel wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Now who was it who strutted around a stage in Sheffield claiming victory to the chanting of "we're awright, we're awright..." because of such a confident prediction was being made right up to the count - only to be interrupted by an aide with the bad news that, er, he had lost?

Kinnock or something or another, wasn't it?

Much like the arrogant confidence of a certain Mrs May, who was so sure she'd clean house she barely even bothered campaigning after calling a sudden early election, Lord Ed

Arrogance in politics is something endemic across the benches

corbyn isn't doing well considering May has to be the worst leader the tories have had for some years. Even special Ed was double digits ahead at around this point in the parliamentary term.
yes even with arguably the worst tory campaign in living memory corbyn still lost as badly as gordon brown,

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Angry Andy wrote:So no denying my statement will almost certainly occur?

I do not necessarily concur; should Corbyn be replaced much would depend on who would replace him.

Personally I don't think that a member of the largely discredited Labour old guard would be able to sway the huge number of don't-knows who really hold the key, particularly the "grey vote" who remember brash Blair's unenviable record and the clapped-out Brown administration's failures, whereas a new, bright, charismatic figure coming up with fresh ideas rather than traditional  political dogma could well achieve the result that you envisage.

I'll chuck one name into the pot: Dav Jarvis. Unknown? Yes. Unbloodied on the battlefield of politics? Yes.

But so was Emmanuel Macron.

MaoDonnel or some other far left goon would replace him, being chosen by maomentum who now have a stranglehold on labour that will mean it will be almost impossible to root them out, like militant were rooted out by kinnock in the 80's. It took them well over a decade to do that and militant had nowhere near the hold that maomentum have on the party. The only hope for the working class labour voter is that the 172 who have no confidence in corbyn grow a backbone and split from him and maomentum and become the official opposition and consign corbyn and his cronies to history's dustbin where they belong.

Angry Andy wrote:Jarvis is a good shout. Young, fresh, ex military. With a cabinet backbone of Yvette Cooper, Chukka Ummanna, Keir Starmer and Frank Field, that has an electable look about it.

Maomentum are trying to deselect frank field amongst others. Gauleiter williamson has been touring constituencies of mp's who have dared to speak out against corbyn with the hope of getting them deselected.

At least some are waking up to their errors



Speaking to STV News, former Greek Finance Minister and celebrity socialist Yanis Varoufakis let the cat out of the bag.

“Socialism is in retreat, as it deserves to be, because we socialists have messed up big time, for decades if not for a century at least.”

An honest socialist?


https://order-order.com/2018/08/21/watch-varoufakis-socialism-retreat/

Didge wrote:At least some are waking up to their errors



Speaking to STV News, former Greek Finance Minister and celebrity socialist Yanis Varoufakis let the cat out of the bag.

“Socialism is in retreat, as it deserves to be, because we socialists have messed up big time, for decades if not for a century at least.”

An honest socialist?


https://order-order.com/2018/08/21/watch-varoufakis-socialism-retreat/

not sure that will have any impact on corbyn or his cult. Although on a separate note. chavez removed 3 zero's from the bolivar and now maduro is removing 5 more. that means 100million bolivars are now worth 1 bolivar. it's cheaper to use cash to wipe your ass than buy toilet paper.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Didge wrote:
At least some are waking up to their errors



Speaking to STV News, former Greek Finance Minister and celebrity socialist Yanis Varoufakis let the cat out of the bag.

“Socialism is in retreat, as it deserves to be, because we socialists have messed up big time, for decades if not for a century at least.”

An honest socialist?

https://order-order.com/2018/08/21/watch-varoufakis-socialism-retreat/

not sure that will have any impact on corbyn or his cult. Although on a separate note. chavez removed 3 zero's from the bolivar and now maduro is removing 5 more. that means 100million bolivars are now worth 1 bolivar. it's cheaper to use cash to wipe your ass than buy toilet paper.

Yet again, here we see two of our resident fascist apologist dumbfucks proving yet again that that neither of them even know the basic meaning of the word "socialist"...

Attempting to use the examples of three hard-left communist authoritarian fuckups, in yet another puerile attempt to slag off any social-minded lefties on here..

At least it's their own words

Eilzel wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Now who was it who strutted around a stage in Sheffield claiming victory to the chanting of "we're awright, we're awright..." because of such a confident prediction was being made right up to the count - only to be interrupted by an aide with the bad news that, er, he had lost?

Kinnock or something or another, wasn't it?

Much like the arrogant confidence of a certain Mrs May, who was so sure she'd clean house she barely even bothered campaigning after calling a sudden early election, Lord Ed

Arrogance in politics is something endemic across the benches

You do realise that Tory got 2.3 million more votes in 2017 than in 2015, don't you...?

And were clear winners with many more seats and votes than any other party...?



2015

Conservative have the following results:
Votes11,334,226


2017

Conservative
Votes13,636,684

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=39&v=61Gac2h2brM

Jeremy Corbyn accused British 'Zionists' of having 'no sense of English irony' despite having 'lived in Britain all of their lives', in comments that have been slammed by Jewish groups as anti-Semitic, MailOnline can reveal.

The remarks were made in 2013, when Corbyn was giving a speech alongside prominent British extremists, at a London conference promoted by the propaganda website of terror group Hamas.

The Labour leader said: '[British Zionists] clearly have two problems. One is they don't want to study history, and secondly, having lived in this country for a very long time, probably all their lives, they don't understand English irony either.'

He added: 'They needed two lessons, which we could perhaps help them with.'

Stephen Pollard, editor of the Jewish Chronicle, said: 'This shows the reality of what Jeremy Corbyn thinks of Jews, somehow a breed apart from "normal" English people.'

Pollard added that he believed the Labour leader 'used the word "Zionist" obviously to mean "Jews".

Jonathan Sacerdoti, who was a founding trustee of the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism, and who is now an anti-racism campaigner, said: 'The idea that British Jews somehow haven't absorbed British values is outrageous.

'To doubt our Britishness because we disagree with your controversial views on Palestine, when you are the one fraternising with extremists, is deeply anti-Semitic. British Jews are right to be scared.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6087783/Jeremy-Corbyn-said-British-Zionists-no-sense-English-irony.html

Jeremy Corbyn has been praised by the ex-leader of the BNP and a former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan after a video emerged in which he claimed that British Zionists “don’t understand English irony”.

Within hours of the row starting, Nick Griffin took to social media to declare his support for Mr Corbyn, who he claimed had been the victim of a “hysterical Zionist media campaign”.

“Go Jezza!” he added.

His comments were echoed by David Duke, an American white supremacist, anti-Semite and conspiracy theorist.

Responding to a tweet from Mr Corbyn, who pledged to “break the stranglehold of elite power” over the media, Duke said: “He’s right, you know.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/24/jeremy-corbyn-praised-nick-griffin-former-kkk-leaderafter-video/