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Post by Andy Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:53 am

If they had bollocks, so would Gove, Boris and other Brexiteers.

But they are political eunuchs.

http://news.sky.com/story/david-davis-resigns-as-brexit-secretary-11430705

Expect a leadership challenge by Friday.

My tip for the top job - Sajid Javid. Has made a solid job as Home secretary since being installed, is intelligent, respected and appears to be keeping his powder dry.

That won't go down well with the far right in the party who HATE ALL Muslims.
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Post by Andy Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:44 pm

And Boris goes as well.
Omnishambolic clusterfuck sums the Conservative party and their handling of Brexit at this juncture.
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Post by Fred Moletrousers Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:13 pm

Angry Andy wrote:And Boris goes as well.
Omnishambolic clusterfuck sums the Conservative party and their handling of Brexit at this juncture.

This would have happened with any party, Andy. Labour is just as fucked up as the Tories.

Corbyn has managed to keep things under wraps so far, but I have a feeling that things are now coming to a head and we may soon have to face making some very important decisions....at the ballot box.

Possibly no bad thing.
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Post by Fred Moletrousers Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:20 pm

Angry Andy wrote:If they had bollocks, so would Gove, Boris and other Brexiteers.

But they are political eunuchs.

http://news.sky.com/story/david-davis-resigns-as-brexit-secretary-11430705

Expect a leadership challenge by Friday.

My tip for the top job - Sajid Javid. Has made a solid job as Home secretary since being installed, is intelligent, respected and appears to be keeping his powder dry.

That won't go down well with the far right in the party who HATE ALL Muslims.

Javid? Something on which we agree. He has always been my own choice as Tory leader. (Not that I have a say!)

I have yet to meet any Right Winger -moderate or far - who "hates" all Muslims. I do, however, know a lot who don't have a lot of time for Muslim extremists.

There is a difference, you know.....

I'm regarded here as being RW; but for my Muslim surgeon I would not be alive today.

Go figure, as our American friends say.
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Post by Andy Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:55 pm

You have lead a sheltered existence if you haven't encountered the likes of Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson, Kate Hopkins, members of the BNP of Britain First.
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Post by Fred Moletrousers Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:07 pm

Angry Andy wrote:You have lead a sheltered existence if you haven't encountered the likes of Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson, Kate Hopkins, members of the BNP of Britain First.

And just how much of the (so-called) Right of British politics do they represent?

Stop being silly, Andy.
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Post by Andy Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:25 pm

They are a tiny %.  Just like UKIP at present.
Worryingly, there is an uprising of the extreme far right across Europe , including Russia, and North America
I cannot fathom out its popularity, but it is increasing and spreading.

The extreme far left, conversely, is an equally small proportion, but shows no sign of increasing it's numbers.
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:41 pm



17.4 million British people are ready to vote UKIP if Theresa May fails to deliver on her promises!!!


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Post by Andy Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:48 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

17.4 million British people are ready to vote UKIP if Theresa May fails to deliver on her promises!!!



With the serial.loser Farage at the helm? Tried 7 times to become an MP, lost 7.
The bloke is a failure and a figure of ridicule.
Which is why you idolize him.

Presently, 2% of voters would vote UKIP, which is 800,000 out of 40,000,000.

Wow.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_Nigel_Farage

When you think of Farage, 2 words spring to mind. Standing unsuccessfully.
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:33 pm

Angry Andy wrote:You have lead a sheltered existence if you haven't encountered the likes of Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson, Kate Hopkins, members of the BNP of Britain First.


Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins are both vocal critics of Islam but neither of them are actually in politics at all. Never ever hear anything about Britain First anyway (even more on the fringes than the BNP) As for Nick Griffin? Are you serious? Nick Griffin was given air time to spout about his policies back in 2009 when his following became a concern. Once people had actually had a chance to listen to him, his support vanished and then they got slaughtered in the elections, lost all their council seats.

BNP members are probably about 100 or so, if that.

I think the far left is a far greater problem than any perceived far right issue

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Post by 'Wolfie Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:24 pm

gelico wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:
You have lead a sheltered existence if you haven't encountered the likes of Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson, Kate Hopkins, members of the BNP of Britain First.

Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins are both vocal critics of Islam but neither of them are actually in politics at all.  Never ever hear anything about Britain First anyway (even more on the fringes than the BNP) As for Nick Griffin?  Are you serious?  Nick Griffin was given air time to spout about his policies back in 2009 when his following became a concern.  Once people had actually had a chance to listen to him, his support vanished and then they got slaughtered in the elections, lost all their council seats.

BNP members are probably about 100 or so, if that.

I think the far left is a far greater problem than any perceived far right issue

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Post by nicko Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:32 pm

Wolfie my little cub, BEHAVE !
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:37 pm

gelico wrote:I think the far left is a far greater problem than any perceived far right issue

Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin notwithstanding?

Read: FA Hayek, Why I'm not a Conservative (1960).
https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-why-i-am-not-conservative.pdf

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Post by Andy Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:25 pm

If Tommy can put down his Topsy and Tim colouring book, he will declare that Hitler, Mussolini and even Ghengis Khan were raging Communists. Which says a lot about Tommy's place on the political spectrum.
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