Labour 'completely taken over by leftist clique' says Sir Tony Robinson

by Guest Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:13 am

Labour has been “completely taken over by a leftist clique”, one of the party’s most famous supporters has said, after the woman in charge of handling complaints was ousted and replaced by a controversial Jeremy Corbyn loyalist.

Ann Black, the long-standing chairman of the Disputes Sub-Committee of Labour’s ruling National Executive Committee (NEC), was replaced by Christine Shawcroft, a director of the Corbyn-backing group Momentum, in a move that one party member said showed “contempt” for party democracy.

It came just a day after three Momentum supporters, including the group’s founder Jon Lansman, won places on the NEC to strengthen Mr Corbyn’s grip on the party.

Ms Shawcroft, who was suspended from the Labour party in 2015 for supporting the the Tower Hamlets mayor Lutfur Rahman, who was found guilty of electoral fraud and bribery, now controls the body that decides whether the party should investigate racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic and other bullying and abuse by party members.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/01/16/labour-completely-taken-leftist-clique-says-sir-tony-robinson/

Thankfully, more and more are waking up to the radical Far left that has overtaken Labour

by Guest Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:15 am

Momentum is wasting no time using its new NEC majority: today it purged longstanding Disputes Panel chair Ann Black and replaced her with top Momentum chief Christine Shawcroft. It took only 24 hours for the red terror to strike Black: the NEC voted 22 to 15 to oust her in a move which was not backed by many of the unions. NEC sub-committees are usually re-constituted without opposition – but not in the new world of Momentum’s red terror. The NEC’s Disputes Panel is crucial part of Labour’s disciplinary machinery, not least as it is responsible for deciding whether to investigate allegations of antisemitism. Gaining control of the Disputes Panel will effectively allow Corbynistas to be their own judge and jury…

Ann Black was a strong critic of the Blairite wing and undoubtedly was on the left – but she wasn’t left enough for Momentum. Many Labour MPs will be aghast at the move: they generally consider Black a fair arbiter with a good understanding of the rulebook. Outspoken Corbynista Shawcroft (whose lack of political judgement is summed up by the fact she said ISIS should be invited for tea and backed corrupt Lutfur Rahman), by comparison, will be instinctively distrusted by moderates or non-Corbynistas undergoing disciplinary procedures. As if to underline just how bad things are getting in Labour, nutjob Tony Greenstein – who was suspended from the party for calling people “Zionist scum” – called for the move on Facebook:

“She (Black) is the one who’s been victimising people. She is in control of disputes which works hand in hand with compliance. She has to go and we have to call for her to go… it’s absolutely imperative that Anne (sic) Black is targeted by name… it’s the same with Iain McNicol”

The new red purge begins…

https://order-order.com/2018/01/16/labour-nec-purge-red-terror-strikes-black/

by magica Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:47 am

Labour has always had lefties, but I think the far left has taken over from them.

by Andy Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:04 am

So what if it is?

They are not the party in government.

In what way does it affect you?

by Guest Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:20 pm

Angry Andy wrote:So what if it is?

They are not the party in government.

In what way does it affect you?

I thought you supported labour, Andy

by Guest Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:22 pm

Angry Andy wrote:So what if it is?

They are not the party in government.

In what way does it affect you?

In many ways it will effect the country, if they are elected to power. The same in how Trump was elected to power in the US.

I doubt very much you would like these lovers of Venezuela socialism, to turn our nation the same way

by Andy Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:40 pm

gelico wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:So what if it is?

They are not the party in government.

In what way does it affect you?

I thought you supported labour, Andy

My politics is irrelevent to this thread.Didge could equally have pointed out that the Tory party has been infiltrated by far right,which is far more worrying as they are the decision makers.

And getting many of them horribly wrong.

You haven't sussed the way Didge works yet,Gels.
He makes a controversial statement supported by a link. Then says nothing.

Until a response is made.

Then he takes the opposite view in order to start a debate,which invariably degenerate into arguements.

by Guest Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:44 pm

Angry Andy wrote:
gelico wrote:

I thought you supported labour, Andy

My politics is irrelevent to this thread.Didge could equally have pointed out that the Tory party has been infiltrated by far right,which is far more worrying as they are the decision makers.

And getting many of them horribly wrong.

If you believe they have been infiltrated by the Far right, then post up the evidence?

by Andy Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:45 pm

This thread is about the Labour party.
Stop deflecting.

by Guest Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:48 pm

Angry Andy wrote:This thread is about the Labour party.
Stop deflecting.

It was you that deflected with a lie, claiming the Tories have been infiltrated by the Far Right.

You made the accusation

So you deflected

You simple cannot ever condemn your far left that have taken over Labour

We already know that Corbyn was a mouth piece for Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas. Showing he loves terrorists and extremists:

Jeremy Corbyn’s silence on the pro-democracy demonstrations in Iran is something that was commented on and forgotten about almost as quickly as the demonstrations were suppressed by the regime.
Naturally when Israel banned anti-Zionist organisations from the country Corbyn started commenting. According to Electronic Intifada his spokesman said the following;

“Jeremy is concerned by reports that activists campaigning for justice for Palestinians, against illegal settlements and the ongoing occupation have been barred from Israel,”

At the very least it’s a double standard. Since there are draconian reporting restrictions imposed on journalists in Iran and since they actually shut down the internet to stop word of the demonstrations getting out one would say that even labelling this a double standard is harsh on Israel.
Still it’s Corbyn, the man who served on the Iranian state’s mouthpiece several times from 2009-12. Amnesty International reported that the Islamic Regime hanged at least 1,314 during that period.

http://hurryupharry.org/2018/01/13/corbyn-ignores-iran-attacks-israel/

by Guest Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:58 pm

Labour’s Chi Onwurah completely unable to say whose side she is on in Iran… painful.

https://order-order.com/2018/01/17/chi-onwurah-brillod-iran/

by Guest Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:25 pm

Angry Andy wrote:
gelico wrote:

I thought you supported labour, Andy

My politics is irrelevent to this thread.

How is it? If you support labour - who is the official opposition - and you want them to take power then surely you must be very concerned about this, no?

Didge could equally have pointed out that the Tory party has been infiltrated by far right,which is far more worrying as they are the decision makers.

uh, have they?

And getting many of them horribly wrong.

You haven't sussed the way Didge works yet,Gels.

Hello? I've posted to didge for years and years, on all the different forums since the days of sky, so I think I know him by now

He makes a controversial statement supported by a link. Then says nothing.

a news article you mean? on a forum? well, well, well, who'd have thought, and before you point out that it's only Guido Fawkes, this is also reported in the times, the guardian, the independent so valid

Until a response is made.

and?

Then he takes the opposite view in order to start a debate,which invariably degenerate into arguements.

on a forum? fucking outrageous thing to do

so you dont want to debate? in that case, may I ask why you're actually here?

by Guest Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:30 pm

It beggars belief Gelico

Anyway, have to go, have a good day

by magica Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:56 pm

Angry Andy wrote:So what if it is?

They are not the party in government.

In what way does it affect you?

If Labour wins the next election then it will affect me, I don't like the angry far left.

Why are you so angry all the time Andy, no wonder your moniker is angry Andy.

by The Devil, You Know Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:09 pm

and maomentums first decision, stop the investigations into anti semitism and make talking about it a deselection crime.

they become more unelectable by the day.

by The Devil, You Know Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:11 pm

Angry Andy wrote:So what if it is?

They are not the party in government.

In what way does it affect you?

and they never will be, which is fine by me, but governments need an effective opposition, not a rabble.

by The Devil, You Know Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:11 pm

Angry Andy wrote:
gelico wrote:

I thought you supported labour, Andy

My politics is irrelevent to this thread.Didge could equally have pointed out that the Tory party has been infiltrated by far right,which is far more worrying as they are the decision makers.

And getting many of them horribly wrong.

You haven't sussed the way Didge works yet,Gels.
He makes a controversial statement supported by a link. Then says nothing.

Until a response is made.

Then he takes the opposite view in order to start a debate,which invariably degenerate into arguements.

well compared to the current labour leadership the dali lama is far right.

by The Devil, You Know Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:12 pm

Angry Andy wrote:This thread is about the Labour party.
Stop deflecting.

you brought up the far right

by Tommy Monk Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:14 pm

Angry Andy wrote:So what if it is?

They are not the party in government.

In what way does it affect you?

I agree... let them do what their leaders and supporters want... come election time, the whole of the British electorate will decide... that's democracy!

However I am slightly worried that such a supporter of corrupt Tower Hamlets mayor Rahman, should be getting promoted to any position within any political sphere...

by Andy Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:24 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:This thread is about the Labour party.
Stop deflecting.
you brought up the far right

You are the expert on the far right.
Your 2 most prolific posters are sick National Action/Britain First supporters. Hate filled and racist.
How have you let your site plumb the depths it has sunk to?
Whatever happened to your lively Conservative site,where tories such as yourself,Moley,Nicko,Drinky,Nems Hugh/Durham/Bliar debated with labourites such as myself Scrat KD Sassy Irn Bru and Joy Division.

by Andy Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:27 am

No reply head?

Can't think why ?

by Guest Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:43 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:This thread is about the Labour party.
Stop deflecting.
you brought up the far right

He did indeed and then ran away from his fuck up

by Andy Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:44 am

The only fuck up here is Dyk,who single handedly turned a well populated political forum into a hate site for Britain First racists, losing 90% of his regular posters in the process.

And I second guessed you,the self confessed pilitical neutral ( haha) siding with a purveyor of hate.
And still no reply from Dyk . to whom I was talking. Not you.

by Guest Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:47 am

Angry Andy wrote:The only fuck up here is Dyk,who single handedly turned a well populated political forum into a hate site for Britain First racists, losing 90% of his regular posters in the process.

And I second guessed you,the self confessed pilitical neutral ( haha) siding with a purveyor of hate.

You need to stop your hate campaign

As you become as bad as those you claim also hate, which then perpetuates that hate.

I have nothing against anyone, I do however quite often am critical of poor and hateul views, which as seen, I am doing here with you.

The fact is, you have deflected this thread and are continuing to do so, because you have an obsession with inaflap

by Andy Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:57 am

Then vent your spleen at Dyk,who comes here trying to tell Ben how to run his firum,whilst he runs the most hate filled forum around.

by Guest Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:59 am

Angry Andy wrote:Then vent your spleen at Dyk,who comes here trying to tell Ben how to run his firum,whilst he runs the most hate filled forum around.

What has he said wrong on here that warrants me saying something to him?

Again, everyone is entittled to an opinion and on this I agree with him that Ben is going over the top

by Andy Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:20 am

Dont you see his hypocracy calling for totally free speech on here, and advertisi g his forum is a place of free spee h as well, whilst ensuring he has no oppents on his own site.

by Guest Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:08 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Dont you see his hypocracy calling for totally free speech on here, and advertisi g his forum is a place of free spee h as well, whilst ensuring he has no oppents on his own site.

Oh change the record you boring pathetic child

Banning people for being abuisve is miles removed from banning websites or can you not understand the difference?

Nobody gives a rats arse about your vendetta with d ean

Grow up you silly child

by Andy Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:24 pm

Game match and set. Off to work.

by Guest Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:00 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Game match and set. Off to work.

Its game set and match.

by Guest Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:14 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Game match and set. Off to work.

you really think?

strange

this thread was about the far left taking control of Labour, something which any Labour supporter should be very concerned about. But apparently it doesn't concern you at all

all you can do is deflect and bang on about the far right and head

the only thing you've done is make yourself look a bit of a twat tbh

still, whatever

Rolling Eyes

by Andy Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:46 pm

Fuck all we can do about it. Bleating on a small American forum aint gonna change anything.

by nicko Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:02 pm

Well why do you bother then?

by Guest Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:05 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Fuck all we can do about it. Bleating on a small American forum aint gonna change anything.

there would be if you could find some courage

have you talked to your local labour MP about your concerns?

have you written to labour HQ?

have you spoken to people locally about your concerns that the extreme left mob are now rising fast

i thought you didn't like extremism, surely you must fight against it

''fuck all we can do about it'' just makes you sound like a weak, impotent, spineless kind of person

either that or you secretly support it

Cool

by JulesV Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:43 pm

Didge wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:

My politics is irrelevent to this thread.Didge could equally have pointed out that the Tory party has been infiltrated by far right,which is far more worrying as they are the decision makers.

And getting many of them horribly wrong.

If you believe they have been infiltrated by the Far right, then post up the evidence?

I wouldn't say the they have been infiltrated by the FAR right. But they've certainly shifted to the right. Where do people think all those UKIP supporters went after they deserted UKIP?

Govt policy shifted to the right too. In fact they had to backtrack and dump their two RW party policy writers, after Theresa did badly in the election.

Yes labour has shifted to the left. But again I think it's OTT to say it's gone far left, just like it's OTT to say the tories have gone far right.

by JulesV Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:46 pm

The best place to be is somewhere near the centre. No good can come out of being extreme RW or extreme LW.

Common sense innit!!!

by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:20 pm

If the Labour are perceived as too left wing, they won't get elected. People will assume it will mean higher taxes and policies which won't actually benefit them.

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