undercover - inside the 'far right'

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so did anyone watch the total twaddle on itv last night?

the chants of the edl set to sinister background music, images of nazis,,,,then flicking to Anne Marie Waters in a desperate attempt to label her as a far right extremist

totally backfired on them as her twitter followers have shot up by 1500 since only last night. many people who had never heard of her now think she's marvellous and are following her

as someone said 'she should send itv a thank you card for all the free promotion'

didn't have quite the outcome that itv had planned

gelico wrote:

sassy wrote:

What, actually listen to an actual Muslim and realise how stupid their manufactured hate makes them look?  No chance!

tbh, most Muslims dont know stuff all about it, it's just a name tag

however, if you listen to all the EX Muslims who have run away from the terror and violence within the koran you may understand more

exactly right gelico

you dont listen to a drug addict about the dangers of addiction because you wont hear any, you listen to the recovering addict

smelly-bandit wrote:

gelico wrote:

but without any logical argument to back it up

thats the logic she uses, she knows SM and SM is very nice therefore Islam MUST be good because SM is good, thats obvioulsy very insult to Muslims like SM who are more than their religion but hey ho

she's still the biggest fucking liar on earth though so ,,,,,

gelico wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:


thats the logic she uses, she knows SM and SM is very nice therefore Islam MUST be good because SM is good, thats obvioulsy very insult to Muslims like SM who are more than their religion but hey ho

she's still the biggest fucking liar on earth though so ,,,,,

Who ?

Sm or sasquatch??

Either or I suppose

smelly-bandit wrote:

gelico wrote:

she's still the biggest fucking liar on earth though so ,,,,,

Who ?

Sm or sasquatch??

Either or I suppose

SM

Hitler got into power partly because people badly underestimated his fanaticism.   Any fanatic faction no matter how small, or seemingly insignificant, shouldn't be myopically dismissed.   The late great Christoper Hitchens said it best when he stated...


"You will be told, you can’t complain – because you’re Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it’s an accusation of race hatred or bigotry, whereas it’s only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.
Watch out for these symptoms… The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open to them. And it’s your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.”

sassy wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

That could be because there isn't one in today's edition of the Labour Party    Department briefing notes and suggested answers for activists.

I vote Labour because I think for myself and don't let media propaganda brainwash me.  And I thought you said you never backed up racist filth?  I wasn't back because I have a 95 year old father to look after and he needed my attention.

Are you really suggesting that you do not, here and elsewhere, present stuff from the Labour Party  and allied sources as established fact to be accepted by the rest of us without any attempt on your part, except your customary venom against those whose politics oppose your own, to back it up with some logical explanation, and then to accuse other posters of "talking out of their backsides," or spouting bullshit if they dare to challenge it?

Is this not supposed to be a forum for debate and the exchange of personal opinions and not a repository for unquestioned party political propaganda?

Left Wing "Hymn sheet" news releases and briefing notes no more deserve to be accepted without scrutiny and question than should exactly the same sort of stuff shoved out by the Tories, RW parties and, for all I know, the Monster Raving Loonies.

And if you really consider that particular view of mine to be "backing racist filth" then all I can say is that you are becoming increasingly desperate in your attempts to pin a "racist" label on me.

HoratioTarr wrote:Hitler got into power partly because people badly underestimated his fanaticism.   Any fanatic faction no matter how small, or seemingly insignificant, shouldn't be myopically dismissed.   The late great Christoper Hitchens said it best when he stated...


"You will be told, you can’t complain – because you’re Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it’s an accusation of race hatred or bigotry, whereas it’s only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.
Watch out for these symptoms… The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open to them. And it’s your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.”

there's a difference between a Muslim and an islamist. a Muslim is just a bloke or woman who believes some mumbo jumbo, an islamist is a fanatic who wants to dominate the world and will do anything to ensure that happens. If you dont have some worries about that, then you are quite frankly naive at best. being phobic means having a fear of something, if you dont have a fear about being forcibly converted or killed then you deserve everything you get.

( just for the literal minded, that is the general you, not you in particular)

The Devil, You Know wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:Hitler got into power partly because people badly underestimated his fanaticism.   Any fanatic faction no matter how small, or seemingly insignificant, shouldn't be myopically dismissed.   The late great Christoper Hitchens said it best when he stated...


"You will be told, you can’t complain – because you’re Islamophobic. The term is already being introduced into the culture, as if it’s an accusation of race hatred or bigotry, whereas it’s only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion.
Watch out for these symptoms… The barbarians never take a city until someone holds the gates open to them. And it’s your own multicultural authorities who will do it for you.”

there's a difference between a Muslim and an islamist. a Muslim is just a bloke or woman who believes some mumbo jumbo,

that's the thing. i do actually know some very nice people with the tag of Muslim. they are great but the only reason they are great is because they know stuff all about islam and dont actually follow all that shit.

here is an interesting quote

''I believe we are seeing the first generation of truly bold apostates from Islam. They are merely the vanguard. They are writing books and making videos that deconstruct, denounce and demolish Islam intellectually, morally and historically. There is no argument left with which you can defend Islam. All the traditional explanations of Islam have been shown to be fraudulent. Therefore, you may abandon Islam with confidence.''

gelico wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:


thats the logic she uses, she knows SM and SM is very nice therefore Islam MUST be good because SM is good, thats obvioulsy very insult to Muslims like SM who are more than their religion but hey ho

she's still the biggest fucking liar on earth though so ,,,,,

About what?

As for Smelly, my first friends when I was just 5 were two Muslim boys who lived in the kampong next door and their house was my second home for three years. I have also lived with Muslim families and have friends of all races and persuasions and even my neighbours are Muslim (yep, they even get into Norfolk), two doctors with three lovely boys who are credit to them. I bet you run and hide if you see a headscarf, which would be funny to see round here as the Queen is often seen in one at Sandringham.

gelico wrote:

Didge wrote:


She is not doing a very good job, when most of her supporters are the Far Right gelico

ah, so you know most of her supporters personally do you?  you  just know they are far right.  the truth is that many of her supporters are ex Muslims, gays, blacks and immigrants.  far right?  seriously?

So her research on Muslims who get benefits for extra wivies justifies what view?

I've already said she wants to cancel that and have everyone equal under one law.  If Muslims knew they would have no support for extra wives and children then maybe they wouldn't have them.

Are you saying all Muslim men have multiple wivies?

No one said that at all

btw, the crusades was a final reaction to the mayhem and murder going on from mohammeds followers.

i agree with you about the inquisition though,,,,,very dominant indeed, but chritianity was reformed and separated from the state - islam cannot be

1) In person or online?
By views made online. Or has this escaped you? Or has it excpaed you the hateul views she has made we are talking about?
So you then claim the majority of her supporters are ex-Muslim?
Really?
Priceless babble Gelico

2) Well you clearly do not know very much about her do you?
Has to be the most dumbest excuse I have ever heard to claim to curtail children. That based off the minor amount of Muslims married in the UK with multiple wivies. That this would some how reduce the number of Muslim children?

So what are you smoking? Can we all share some? .

3) Final reaction?


Really, please explain this episode in history for me that you are clearly clueless on.??I suppose the Inquisition was the final straw was it?

I tell you what Gelico, actually research the person you are talking about before making such whopping and silly comments

Thanks

sassy wrote:

gelico wrote:

she's still the biggest fucking liar on earth though so ,,,,,

About what?  

oh, she knows,,,

As for Smelly, my first friends when I was just 5 were two Muslim boys who lived in the kampong next door and their house was my second home for three years.   I have also lived with Muslim families and have friends of all races and persuasions and even my neighbours are Muslim (yep, they even get into Norfolk), two doctors with three lovely boys who are credit to them.   I bet you run and hide if you see a headscarf, which would be funny to see round here as the Queen is often seen in one at Sandringham.

you are being utterly ridiculous with this. I also know many many nice Muslims, that isn't the point

you are mugging yourself off big time here

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

sassy wrote:

I vote Labour because I think for myself and don't let media propaganda brainwash me.  And I thought you said you never backed up racist filth?  I wasn't back because I have a 95 year old father to look after and he needed my attention.

Are you really suggesting that you do not, here and elsewhere, present stuff from the Labour Party  and allied sources as established fact to be accepted by the rest of us without any attempt on your part, except your customary venom against those whose politics oppose your own, to back it up with some logical explanation, and then to accuse other posters of "talking out of their backsides," or spouting bullshit if they dare to challenge it?

Is this not supposed to be a forum for debate and the exchange of personal opinions and not a repository for unquestioned party political propaganda?

Left Wing "Hymn sheet" news releases and briefing notes no more deserve to be accepted without scrutiny and question than should exactly the same sort of stuff shoved out by the Tories, RW parties and, for all I know, the Monster Raving Loonies.

And if you really consider that particular view of mine to be "backing racist filth" then all I can say is that you are becoming increasingly desperate in your attempts to pin a "racist" label on me.

So basically what you are saying is, you just meandered in, wrote a post backing up people who were siding with Waters, who is too racist for UKIP, and trotted off not knowing who you had been championing.   Jeez.

gelico wrote:

sassy wrote:

About what?  

oh, she knows,,,

As for Smelly, my first friends when I was just 5 were two Muslim boys who lived in the kampong next door and their house was my second home for three years.   I have also lived with Muslim families and have friends of all races and persuasions and even my neighbours are Muslim (yep, they even get into Norfolk), two doctors with three lovely boys who are credit to them.   I bet you run and hide if you see a headscarf, which would be funny to see round here as the Queen is often seen in one at Sandringham.

you are being utterly ridiculous with this.  I also know many many nice Muslims, that isn't the point

you are mugging yourself off big time here

It isn't? So they are Muslims because they don't follow Islam. Stone the crows, you know some funny Muslims.

Didge wrote:

gelico wrote:


btw, the crusades was a final reaction to the mayhem and murder going on from mohammeds followers.

i agree with you about the inquisition though,,,,,very dominant indeed, but chritianity was reformed and separated from the state - islam cannot be

1) In person or online?
By views made online. Or has this escaped you? Or has it excpaed you the hateul views she has made we are talking about?
So you then claim the majority of her supporters are ex-Muslim?
Really?
Priceless babble Gelico

2) Well you clearly do not know very much about her do you?
Has to be the most dumbest excuse I have ever heard to claim to curtail children. That based off the minor amount of Muslims married in the UK with multiple wivies. That this would some how reduce the number of Muslim children?

So what are you smoking? Can we all share some? .

3) Final reaction?


Really, please explain this episode in history for me that you are clearly clueless on.??I suppose the Inquisition was the final straw was it?

I tell you what Gelico, actually research the person you are talking about before making such whopping and silly comments

Thanks

pay attention didge.

1) I said ''many'' not ''the majority''

2) what is wrong with having everyone equal under one law?

3) i have no idea what the rest of your post is even saying

sassy wrote:

gelico wrote:

you are being utterly ridiculous with this.  I also know many many nice Muslims, that isn't the point

you are mugging yourself off big time here

It isn't?   So they are Muslims because they don't follow Islam.   Stone the crows, you know some funny Muslims.

no it isnt the point at all.

dont follow islam?  they dont know the history, they are merely ''born'' a Muslim as my husband was born a catholic.  For a lot of people it means nothing whatsoever

like i said before, it's just a tag for many Muslims but you wont find them down the mosque listening to the imam nor with placcards wanting to take over


I'll ask you this again

do you believe mohammed was a good and holy person whose actions should be considered perfect and copied

gelico wrote:

Didge wrote:

1) In person or online?
By views made online. Or has this escaped you? Or has it excpaed you the hateul views she has made we are talking about?
So you then claim the majority of her supporters are ex-Muslim?
Really?
Priceless babble Gelico

2) Well you clearly do not know very much about her do you?
Has to be the most dumbest excuse I have ever heard to claim to curtail children. That based off the minor amount of Muslims married in the UK with multiple wivies. That this would some how reduce the number of Muslim children?

So what are you smoking? Can we all share some? .

3) Final reaction?


Really, please explain this episode in history for me that you are clearly clueless on.??I suppose the Inquisition was the final straw was it?

I tell you what Gelico, actually research the person you are talking about before making such whopping and silly comments

Thanks

pay attention didge.

1)  I said ''many'' not ''the majority''

2)  what is wrong with having everyone equal under one law?

3)  i have no idea what the rest of your post is even saying

1) I am paying attention, based on what does she have many? The Beano? So Soft Toilet Tissue?

2)How is curtailing children being equal under the law? When its denying people their rights?

3) I have not understood a single point you have mader here, but I still love you loads...

Didge wrote:

gelico wrote:

pay attention didge.

1)  I said ''many'' not ''the majority''

2)  what is wrong with having everyone equal under one law?

3)  i have no idea what the rest of your post is even saying

1) I am paying attention, based on what does she have many? The Beano? So Soft Toilet Tissue?


''So you then claim the majority of her supporters are ex-Muslim?'' is what you wrote to me. I never claimed that the majority of her supporters are ex Muslim. I said many of them are

2)How is curtailing children being equal under the law? When its denying people their rights?

no, she wants everyone equal under ONE law. that is not denying anyone their rights

3) I have not understood a single point you have mader here, but I still love you loads...

tbh that doesn;t surprise me

love you too

gelico wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:


thats the logic she uses, she knows SM and SM is very nice therefore Islam MUST be good because SM is good, thats obvioulsy very insult to Muslims like SM who are more than their religion but hey ho

she's still the biggest fucking liar on earth though so ,,,,,

Go fuck your self

SEXY MAMA wrote:

gelico wrote:

she's still the biggest fucking liar on earth though so ,,,,,

Go fuck your self

if I do will that stop you lying?

sassy wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Are you really suggesting that you do not, here and elsewhere, present stuff from the Labour Party  and allied sources as established fact to be accepted by the rest of us without any attempt on your part, except your customary venom against those whose politics oppose your own, to back it up with some logical explanation, and then to accuse other posters of "talking out of their backsides," or spouting bullshit if they dare to challenge it?

Is this not supposed to be a forum for debate and the exchange of personal opinions and not a repository for unquestioned party political propaganda?

Left Wing "Hymn sheet" news releases and briefing notes no more deserve to be accepted without scrutiny and question than should exactly the same sort of stuff shoved out by the Tories, RW parties and, for all I know, the Monster Raving Loonies.

And if you really consider that particular view of mine to be "backing racist filth" then all I can say is that you are becoming increasingly desperate in your attempts to pin a "racist" label on me.

So basically what you are saying is, you just meandered in, wrote a post backing up people who were siding with Waters, who is too racist for UKIP, and trotted off not knowing who you had been championing.   Jeez.

It really is getting ridiculous around here, sassy...

Fuckwit Fred the Mole' is a clueless old twat knocking on senility's door..

And yet people keep on cheering on the mealy mouthed old fool !

I got basemented for a lot less crap than what that obnoxious arsehole 'gelica' has been carrying on with over this past week...

Why that racist and narrow-minded bigot hasn't been canned for good is beyond normal human comprehension..

Then again, NewsFix moderators have been 'asleep at the wheel' often over recent days.

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

I got basemented for a lot less crap than what that obnoxious arsehole 'gelica' has been carrying on with over this past week...

Why that racist and narrow-minded bigot hasn't been canned for good is beyond normal human comprehension..

Then again, NewsFix moderators have been 'asleep at the wheel' often over recent days.

dont cry poppet

i'll always be around to keep you company

There is a lot of gang mentality on here today. Oddly enough, all post on another site.
Or perhaps, not odd at all.

gelico wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

I got basemented for a lot less crap than what that obnoxious arsehole 'gelica' has been carrying on with over this past week...

Why that racist and narrow-minded bigot hasn't been canned for good is beyond normal human comprehension..

Then again, NewsFix moderators have been 'asleep at the wheel' often over recent days.

dont cry poppet

i'll always be around to keep you company

And I'll be sure to remind you of just what a braindead little bigot you are...

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

gelico wrote:

dont cry poppet

i'll always be around to keep you company

And I'll be sure to remind you of just what a braindead little bigot you are...

see? you need me around to remind yourself just how morally superior you are

sassy wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Are you really suggesting that you do not, here and elsewhere, present stuff from the Labour Party  and allied sources as established fact to be accepted by the rest of us without any attempt on your part, except your customary venom against those whose politics oppose your own, to back it up with some logical explanation, and then to accuse other posters of "talking out of their backsides," or spouting bullshit if they dare to challenge it?

Is this not supposed to be a forum for debate and the exchange of personal opinions and not a repository for unquestioned party political propaganda?

Left Wing "Hymn sheet" news releases and briefing notes no more deserve to be accepted without scrutiny and question than should exactly the same sort of stuff shoved out by the Tories, RW parties and, for all I know, the Monster Raving Loonies.

And if you really consider that particular view of mine to be "backing racist filth" then all I can say is that you are becoming increasingly desperate in your attempts to pin a "racist" label on me.

So basically what you are saying is, you just meandered in, wrote a post backing up people who were siding with Waters, who is too racist for UKIP, and trotted off not knowing who you had been championing.   Jeez.

No, I logged in, made a perfectly relevant observation based on one of your own recent contributions that was a classic example of how you react adversely whenever someone expresses doubt on the validity and veracity of one of your sources, and I did not refer to Waters and whether she is "too racist for UKIP" or not - because that was not relevant to my reply.

So could you please explain how I was "backing racist filth"?

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

sassy wrote:


So basically what you are saying is, you just meandered in, wrote a post backing up people who were siding with Waters, who is too racist for UKIP, and trotted off not knowing who you had been championing.   Jeez.

No, I logged in, made a perfectly relevant observation  based on one of your own recent contributions that was a classic example of how you react adversely whenever someone expresses doubt on the validity and veracity of one of your sources, and I did not refer to Waters and whether she is "too racist for UKIP" or not - because that was not relevant to my reply.

So could you please explain how I was "backing racist filth"?

think you just answered your own question there molesy

you totally SHOULD have denounced AMW

nothing else matters

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

sassy wrote:


So basically what you are saying is, you just meandered in, wrote a post backing up people who were siding with Waters, who is too racist for UKIP, and trotted off not knowing who you had been championing.   Jeez.

It really is getting ridiculous around here,  sassy...

Fuckwit Fred the Mole'  is a clueless old twat knocking on senility's door..

And yet people keep on cheering on the mealy mouthed old fool  !

Perhaps that is because they are intelligent, perceptive and literate and are able easily to understand my posts.

Would you like me to add a special version for you, written in words of no more than two syllables?

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:


It really is getting ridiculous around here,  sassy...

Fuckwit Fred the Mole'  is a clueless old twat knocking on senility's door..

And yet people keep on cheering on the mealy mouthed old fool  !

Perhaps that is because they are intelligent and literate and are able easily to understand my posts.

Would you like me to add a special version for you, written in words of no more than two syllables?

with crayons, if he hasn't eaten them all or shoved them up his nose

gelico wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Perhaps that is because they are intelligent and literate and are able easily to understand my posts.

Would you like me to add a special version for you, written in words of no more than two syllables?

with crayons, if he hasn't eaten them all or shoved them up his nose

...or, God forbid, shoved them elsewhere.

Angry Andy wrote:There is a lot of gang mentality on here today. Oddly enough, all post on another site.
Or perhaps, not odd at all.

our gang versus yours??

your fucking liberals love diversity just not diversity in opinion eh??

gelico wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

Who ?

Sm or sasquatch??

Either or I suppose

SM

i dont think SM is a liar, not when it comes to religion anyway

i think she genuinely believes the bullshit she spouts, she has fully embrace the brainwashing.

when she says islam is peaceful she fully believes it.

cognitive dissonance

smelly-bandit wrote:

gelico wrote:


SM

i dont think SM is a liar, not when it comes to religion anyway

i think she genuinely believes the bullshit she spouts, she has fully embrace the brainwashing.

when she says islam is peaceful she fully believes it.

cognitive dissonance

i agree with this

gelico wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Perhaps that is because they are intelligent and literate and are able easily to understand my posts.

Would you like me to add a special version for you, written in words of no more than two syllables?

with crayons, if he hasn't eaten them all or shoved them up his nose

Better up the nose...

Than you and Fred shoving yours up your fat backsides..

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

gelico wrote:

with crayons, if he hasn't eaten them all or shoved them up his nose

Better up the nose...

Than you and Fred shoving yours up your fat backsides..

I'll try to make that words of one syllable, then...apart from the expletives that is - even you seem to understand those.

Cretin.

A hateful cretin is our Wolfie, never uses one insult when 2 or 3 can be inserted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zIlj-oE1X4

gelico wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zIlj-oE1X4

You might find this interesting Gelico

i've seen it, thanks didge

gelico wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:


thats the logic she uses, she knows SM and SM is very nice therefore Islam MUST be good because SM is good, thats obvioulsy very insult to Muslims like SM who are more than their religion but hey ho

she's still the biggest fucking liar on earth though so ,,,,,

What has she lied about? I've had a few tiffs with SM, but I haven't seen her lie about anything. I hope she's not being singled out for being a Muslim.

Raggamuffin wrote:

gelico wrote:

she's still the biggest fucking liar on earth though so ,,,,,

What has she lied about? I've had a few tiffs with SM, but I haven't seen her lie about anything. I hope she's not being singled out for being a Muslim.

no, she is NOT being singled out for being a Muslim. I spent years defending her being singled out for being a Muslim

Stench hates ALL Muslims. As well as blacks, browns and Forrinuz. Despite being a foreigner himself.

sassy, what comment do you have on this? is it racist filth?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SSdn8EErUI

Angry Andy wrote:Stench hates ALL Muslims. As well as blacks, browns and Forrinuz. Despite being a foreigner himself.

Well you seem to hate everyone who doesn't think like you.

gelico wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

What has she lied about? I've had a few tiffs with SM, but I haven't seen her lie about anything. I hope she's not being singled out for being a Muslim.

no, she is NOT being singled out for being a Muslim.  I spent years defending her being singled out for being a Muslim

I'm pleased to hear that. She gets a hard time on here from some people as it is - for being a Muslim who defends her faith.

Well, For once Wolf comes out smelling like Roses

smelly-bandit wrote:

Angry Andy wrote:There is a lot of gang mentality on here today. Oddly enough, all post on another site.
Or perhaps, not odd at all.

our gang versus yours??

your fucking liberals love diversity just not diversity in opinion eh??

diversity of opinions Yes we like that

Some dumb ass spreading 'false facts', No they are just fucked in the head

It comes as no great shock
when Stench acts like a cock.
We've seen of late
A rise in his hate
But it gives us a chance to mock

Angry Andy wrote:It comes as no great shock
when Stench acts like a cock.
We've seen of late
A rise in his hate
But it gives us a chance to mock

*chortle*

andy did they remove you're sense of humour when they cut out your mole??