Muslim surgeon stabbed outside mosque in 'hate crime'

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A surgeon was stabbed on his way to a mosque in an apparent hate crime by attackers who shouted "abusive" comments, according to a Muslim community leader. The victim, a 58-year-old man named locally as surgeon Dr Nasser Kurdy, was taken to hospital with a stab wound to his neck following the assault outside the Altrincham Islamic Centre, in Grove Lane, in the Greater Manchester market town on Sunday evening.

He has been discharged from hospital, according to his colleague Dr Khalid Anis, a spokesman for the Altrincham & Hale Muslim Association, who said he was "very lucky". Greater Manchester Police said two man, aged 32 and 54, were arrested within an hour of the attack, which the force is treating as a hate crime but not terrorism related.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/25/Muslim-surgeon-stabbed-outside-mosque-hate-crime/

Thorin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

I'm not really sure what you're suggesting here didge, you seem to be saying that the shirt is covered in blood but for some reason it's not visible.

Did i claim that smelly or did I claim whether you could see all his shirt or not?

Did I also  ask you on what he had been stabbed with and whether it was deep or just nicked him?

That would also be important to the level of blood loss

So after asking repeatedly, you avoided again, knowing full well it sinks your poor claim here.

I'm. Just trying to figure out why I can't see any blood on the clothes of a man who has just been stabbed.

It just strikes me as rather odd. I've seen people stabbed shot, battered and beaten and every single time they bleed all over their clothes.

After all the violence I've seen in my life, this is the first time I've ever seen a man who claims to have been stabbed but hasn't lost any blood from the wound.

Can you explain where all the blood is??

smelly-bandit wrote:

Thorin wrote:


Did i claim that smelly or did I claim whether you could see all his shirt or not?

Did I also  ask you on what he had been stabbed with and whether it was deep or just nicked him?

That would also be important to the level of blood loss

So after asking repeatedly, you avoided again, knowing full well it sinks your poor claim here.

I'm. Just trying to figure out why I can't see any blood on the clothes of a man who has just been stabbed.

It just strikes me as rather odd. I've seen people stabbed shot, battered and beaten and every single time they bleed all over their clothes.

After all the violence I've seen in my life, this is the first time I've ever seen a man who claims to have been stabbed but hasn't lost any blood from the wound.

Can you explain where all the blood is??

So its odd to you not knowing what the person was stabbed with and how badly that person was stabbed.
After not being able to see the back of the person and then make your claims. Even though its clear he has had medical attention. I mean why has the wound be dressed and by a hospital?

So I do not need to see any blood, to easily deduce from a number of factors he has a wound. I know not how bad or even how badly it bled. 

Can you also explain why someone has been charged and remanded in custody?

Can you also explain based off what you find weird, his own lawyer has not gone off this?

So then why is it important for you to be able to see blood here?

Well didge I just find it weird

A man stabbed in the neck and doesn't get a single drop of blood on his shirt??

That just make me doubt it happend at all, sounds like false flag to me.

Wouldn't be the first time Muslims have lied

smelly-bandit wrote:Well didge I just find it weird

A man stabbed in the neck and doesn't get a single drop of blood on his shirt??

That just make me doubt it happend at all, sounds like false flag to me.

Wouldn't be the first time Muslims have lied

So do you not think the case would have fallen apart already, if your claim is true?

Again you assume there is no blood from the injury, simple as you have not be able to see it.

Now again the Police will have taken photo's of the wound.

So don't you think that will matter in a court of law, if there is no wound as you claim?

Thorin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:Well didge I just find it weird

A man stabbed in the neck and doesn't get a single drop of blood on his shirt??

That just make me doubt it happend at all, sounds like false flag to me.

Wouldn't be the first time Muslims have lied

So do you not think the case would have fallen apart already, if your claim is true?

Again you assume there is no blood from the injury, simple as you have not be able to see it.

Now again the Police will have taken photo's of the wound.

So don't you think that will matter in a court of law, if there is no wound as you claim?

From what we can see, is there any blood on his shirt??

smelly-bandit wrote:

Thorin wrote:


So do you not think the case would have fallen apart already, if your claim is true?

Again you assume there is no blood from the injury, simple as you have not be able to see it.

Now again the Police will have taken photo's of the wound.

So don't you think that will matter in a court of law, if there is no wound as you claim?

From what we can see, is there any blood on his shirt??

I cannot see any myself, but does that mean there is not any blood present you cannot see?

I rest my case

smelly-bandit wrote: I rest my case

Do you?

By me continually answering your questions and you avoiding mine.??

Can you rule out there was no bleeding smelly or any blood?

Take your time.

Also you do know this doctor treated victims of the Manchester Bombing?

So why would he lie?

You've admitted there is no blood from a stab wound which is impossible.

So either this man has achieved the impossible or he is lying

Your choice

smelly-bandit wrote:You've admitted there is no blood from a stab wound which is impossible.

So either this man has achieved the impossible or he is lying

Your choice

I admitted from what i could see, not that there was no possibility of blood.

Talk about lying again to what I was asked and answered

Try again

Can you rule out there was no bleeding smelly or any blood?

Take your time.

Also you do know this doctor treated victims of the Manchester Bombing?

So why would he lie?

Yes didge I can rule out that there was any blood on his shirt because I'm looking at a picture of him and, well I don't know quite how to put this but........... There isn't any blood on his shirt

Even you admitted there isn't any blood.

Not sure what's left to say.

Must be the first time in human history a man has been stabbed in the neck without bleeding

Why is Kurdy seen holding the side of his head/neck, and way above the line of his shirt collar... but then there is a picture of his 'patched up wound' after 'hospital treatment' for this alleged '3 inch stab wound' that shows a small thin patch on the back of his neck low down beneath the shirt collar line... and completely clean and free from any of the residual weeping blood/fluid that would be soaking through from such a '3 inch stab wound' from an attack that has been said as being a 'section 18 GBH' attack...!?

smelly-bandit wrote:Yes didge I can rule out that there was any blood on his shirt because I'm looking at a picture of him and, well I don't know quite how to put this but........... There isn't any blood on his shirt

Even you admitted there isn't any blood.

Not sure what's left to say.

Must be the first time in human history a man has been stabbed in the neck without bleeding

 

So you are saying you could rule out any blood, with never being able to see the actual wound or all of his shirt and collar and back?



Please go with that as your defense, for the one charged with this crime.

I am sure the judge will have a field day with you on that.

I rest my case

Tommy Monk wrote:Why is Kurdy seen holding the side of his head/neck, and way above the line of his shirt collar... but then there is a picture of his 'patched up wound' after 'hospital treatment' for this alleged '3 inch stab wound' that shows a small thin patch on the back of his neck low down beneath the shirt collar line... and completely clean and free from any of the residual weeping blood/fluid that would be soaking through from such a '3 inch stab wound' from an attack that has been said as being a 'section 18 GBH' attack...!?

False flag.

He might have been attacked, but he sure as shit wasn't stabbed.

How many of the London bridge stab victims where spotlessly clean??

None of them, all of them were covered in blood

smelly-bandit wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Why is Kurdy seen holding the side of his head/neck, and way above the line of his shirt collar... but then there is a picture of his 'patched up wound' after 'hospital treatment' for this alleged '3 inch stab wound' that shows a small thin patch on the back of his neck low down beneath the shirt collar line... and completely clean and free from any of the residual weeping blood/fluid that would be soaking through from such a '3 inch stab wound' from an attack that has been said as being a 'section 18 GBH' attack...!?

False flag.

He might have been attacked, but he sure as shit wasn't stabbed

lol, please go with that as your opening line to the judge in the defense of the suspect charged.

After viewing the prosecutions photo's of the 3cm stab wound to the victim.

Thorin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

False flag.

He might have been attacked, but he sure as shit wasn't stabbed

lol, please go with that as your opening line to the judge in the defense of the suspect charged.

After viewing the prosecutions photo's of the 3cm stab wound to the victim.

It's a 3cm stab wound because it's a STAB wound.

smelly-bandit wrote:

Thorin wrote:


lol, please go with that as your opening line to the judge in the defense of the suspect charged.

After viewing the prosecutions photo's of the 3cm stab wound to the victim.

It's a 3cm stab wound because it's a STAB wound.

Yes its a stab wound which can come in varying degrees based on what was used and how it was used.

Thorin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:


It's a 3cm stab wound because it's a STAB wound.

Yes its a stab wound which can come in varying degrees based on what was used and how it was used.

Yes and on the surface it will leave a wound which is the width of the blade which is probably the 3cm you're waffling on about whilst the true damage will be internal to the depth of the blade.

So unless the blade was 3cm wide and 1mm long, there is going to be blood on the outside and on the inside, in this case the "wound" is in the side of the neck which means he should also be choking and coughing on blood which would be running down the inside of his windpipe.

He doesn't have any blood on his shirt and isn't choking on his own blood.

Very weird that's there is no blood after being stabbed

Definite lying

smelly-bandit wrote:

Thorin wrote:


Yes its a stab wound which can come in varying degrees based on what was used and how it was used.

Yes and on the surface it will leave a wound which is the width of the blade which is probably the 3cm you're waffling on about whilst the true damage will be internal to the depth of the blade.

So unless the blade was 3cm wide and 1mm long, there is going to be blood on the outside and on the inside, in this case the "wound" is in the side of the neck which means he should also be choking and coughing on blood which would be running down the inside of his windpipe.

He doesn't have any blood on his shirt and isn't choking on his own blood.

Very weird that's there is no blood after being stabbed

Definite lying

Utter gibberish and shows you know little about biology.

Let me post some expert views on wounds for you smelly and off your view then there is no bleeding.

Not only being in police work I am also a paramedic which is required for my position, although I do not practice as a paramedic.

There are many open wounds which don't bleed for various reasons. Cuts/wounds may not bleed because they were caused by a very sharp instrument and this causes the small vessels to clamp shut on their own which stops bleeding.

There are many types of open wounds including gunshots where you can see an open wound where the projectile goes in and because of the force and heat it instantly closes off the blood vessels. However, an open wound under these circumstances are most likely bleeding on the inside of the body into the abdominal or chest cavity and is a very serious wound and is life threatening.  You can "bleed out" internally with no or very little blood oozing from the entry point.

A lot of amputations such as having a leg or arm severed do not bleed on the outside and are bleeding substantially on the inside and are life threatening. Just because you don't see blood oozing from a cut or wound does not mean it is not life threatening.

So hence, like I say, until we know what weapon was used, how it was used and how well or badly he hit the doctor, you are simple talking quite literally out of your arse.

Fucking hellfire, so you've just become a copper AND a paramedic in between this post and the last one??

You're a joke didge

Is it 3cm wound now... thought it was reported as a 3inch stab wound before... which is about 7.5cm...!!!

smelly-bandit wrote:Fucking hellfire, so you've just become a copper AND a paramedic in between this post and the last one??

You're a joke didge

I think the joke is on you mate, when clearly your limited knowledge of wounds has just been exposed.

Yes didge you just posted up some shit claiming to be in police work and a paramedic.

Anyway it doesn't matter because as everyone including you can see, there isn't a single drop of blood on him

smelly-bandit wrote:Yes didge you just posted up some shit claiming to be in police work and a paramedic.

Anyway it doesn't matter because as everyone including you can see, there isn't a single drop of blood on him

Ah bless the poor jester is all upset

What matters actually, is that there is evidence that he was at hospital, that his wound was attended to. The Police have gathered evidence and arrested a suspect, who has been charged.

So it really does not matter what you think.

Go to the court case in Oct, I think the 23rd, you can always make a tit of yourself there during the case.


Let me know how you get on

And when it goes to court the attacker will no doubt go to jail, but not for stabbing him.

smelly-bandit wrote:And when it goes to court the attacker will no doubt go to jail, but not for stabbing him.

Ah, the paranoia continues.

Stay tuned for smellys next loony Tunes.

Thorin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:And when it goes to court the attacker will no doubt go to jail, but not for stabbing him.

Ah, the paranoia continues.

Stay tuned for smellys next loony Tunes.

Can't go to jail for stabbing a person if you haven't stabbed them.

Its the basic principle of law

smelly-bandit wrote:

Thorin wrote:

Ah, the paranoia continues.

Stay tuned for smellys next loony Tunes.

Can't go to jail for stabbing a person if you haven't stabbed them.

Its the basic principle of law

Shall we refer back to this thread, when the trial has started?

23rd October?

See who is right?

Thorin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

Can't go to jail for stabbing a person if you haven't stabbed them.

Its the basic principle of law

Shall we refer back to this thread, when the trial has started?

23rd October?

See who is right?

Suddenly you want to wait to See who is right??

You've been ranting on from the start about how wrong I am

Someone's not so sure of himself anymore, what did you just read didge??

Did you perhaps take a look at the footage and think "oh shit"

Whatever

Oh dear, someone is tired again.

So clearly smelly does not want to take me up on my challenge.

No surprise there then, that he would chicken out, is there.

Thorin wrote:Oh dear, someone is tired again.

So clearly smelly does not want to take me up on my challenge.

No surprise there then is there.

As if you're going to let the opportunity to prove me wrong pass you by.

You don't need me to accept your" challenge", it's hardly a challenge is it.

Come the 23rd you will either be rubbing my nose in it or hiding under your rock.

Won't you??

smelly-bandit wrote:

Thorin wrote:Oh dear, someone is tired again.

So clearly smelly does not want to take me up on my challenge.

No surprise there then is there.

As if you're going to let the opportunity to prove me wrong pass you by.

You don't need me to accept your" challenge", it's hardly a challenge is it.

Come the 23rd you will either be rubbing  my nose in it or hiding under your rock.

Won't you??

I will be here smelly.

Now best you get some rest, you clearly are a tad tired mate.

Night.

Thorin wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

As if you're going to let the opportunity to prove me wrong pass you by.

You don't need me to accept your" challenge", it's hardly a challenge is it.

Come the 23rd you will either be rubbing  my nose in it or hiding under your rock.

Won't you??

I will be here smelly.

Now best you get some rest, you clearly are a tad tired mate.

Night.

Run along didge

Lots of people get stabbed why is this man so special ?

Would you say the same if a white supremacist had been stabbed by a Muslim?

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Lots of people get stabbed why is this man so special ?

VD. Fake Christian.

Angry Andy wrote:

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Lots of people get stabbed why is this man so special ?

VD. Fake Christian.

i don't think he is a christian fake or otherwise, im sure he is very clearly a Muslim

Angry Andy wrote:

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Lots of people get stabbed why is this man so special ?

VD. Fake Christian.

If a white Christian surgeon got stabbed it wouldn't make the news .

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Lots of people get stabbed why is this man so special ?

What on earth is wrong with you to say such a thing?

He isn't special (well, he was to his family and those he helped I'm sure). But as far as I know most if not all stabbings are reported somewhere. This one was linked to here by a poster.

Seriously though, that's you reaction to someone being stabbed? To ask why they are so special?

Eilzel wrote:

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Lots of people get stabbed why is this man so special ?

What on earth is wrong with you to say such a thing?

He isn't special (well, he was to his family and those he helped I'm sure). But as far as I know most if not all stabbings are reported somewhere. This one was linked to here by a poster.

Seriously though, that's you reaction to someone being stabbed? To ask why they are so special?

VOD expresses some of the most fucked up morality I have ever read.

complete and utter disgrace that she calls herself a Christian
I don't even like Christians yet I am offended for them, since read any of Christ's words and they are the complete opposite of what she expresses.

VoD is neither a 'moral' person, nor a genuine 'Christian'...

Her regular cruelty, cold-hearted attitudes, inborn stupidty, lack of education, and the way that she champions quackery, bad business, and crooked politicians and police --  'says it all', really..

Just seeing the way that she cheers on Smelly's craziness and Prez Trump's idiocy should be more than enough to neutralise/counter her claims to be so much holier and better than all of us satan-worshipping blasphemers on here !        

"I don't really like Christians" Why, are you a Muslim?
That remark shows us just what you are.

smelly-bandit wrote:You've admitted there is no blood from a stab wound which is impossible.

So either this man has achieved the impossible or he is lying

Your choice

You're obviously the one lying here, SmellyBum'...

Drunk again, are you ???

nicko wrote:"I don't really like Christians" Why,   are you a Muslim?
That remark shows us just what you are.  

Did you bother reading his full post Nicko?


Tut tut you seem to think because he defends Muslim he must be one!

Wow! I'd defend gays being oppressed by anyone doesn't make me one though!

What' wrong with you?

Eilzel wrote:

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Lots of people get stabbed why is this man so special ?

What on earth is wrong with you to say such a thing?

He isn't special (well, he was to his family and those he helped I'm sure). But as far as I know most if not all stabbings are reported somewhere. This one was linked to here by a poster.

Seriously though, that's you reaction to someone being stabbed? To ask why they are so special?

veya_victaous wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

What on earth is wrong with you to say such a thing?

He isn't special (well, he was to his family and those he helped I'm sure). But as far as I know most if not all stabbings are reported somewhere. This one was linked to here by a poster.

Seriously though, that's you reaction to someone being stabbed? To ask why they are so special?

VOD expresses some of the most fucked up morality I have ever read.

complete and utter disgrace that she calls herself a Christian
I don't even like Christians yet I am offended for them, since read any of Christ's words and they are the complete opposite of what she expresses.

Indeed.

SEXY MAMA wrote:

nicko wrote:"I don't really like Christians" Why,   are you a Muslim?
That remark shows us just what you are.  

Did you bother reading his full post Nicko?


Tut tut you seem to think because he defends Muslim he must be one!

Wow! I'd defend gays being oppressed by anyone doesn't make me one though!

What' wrong with you?

Hang on a minute sexy.

Lets be honest here. The attack on the surgeon who helped many of the victims of the manchester bombing was appalling and I hope his attacker faces the full force of the law.

But, would you have been okay with a poster saying he does not really like Muslims?

Seriously?

I am critical of all religions, as they are a belief like anything and open to ridicule and criticism, but he is crossing over into dislike of people as a group themselves for their beliefs. Not extremist Christians, all Christians.

Thorin wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Did you bother reading his full post Nicko?


Tut tut you seem to think because he defends Muslim he must be one!

Wow! I'd defend gays being oppressed by anyone doesn't make me one though!

What' wrong with you?

Hang on a minute sexy.

Lets be honest here. The attack on the surgeon who helped many of the victims of the manchester bombing was appalling and I hope his attacker faces the full force of the law.

But, would you have been okay with a poster saying he does not really like Muslims?

Seriously?

I am critical of all religions, as they are a belief like anything and open to ridicule and criticism, but he is crossing over into dislike of people as a group themselves for their beliefs. Not extremist Christians, all Christians.

Seriously?

We are talking about Veys post yes?

He doesn't like any religious person per say though does he?

What he implied in his post was the posters remark and her attitude.

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Thorin wrote:


Hang on a minute sexy.

Lets be honest here. The attack on the surgeon who helped many of the victims of the manchester bombing was appalling and I hope his attacker faces the full force of the law.

But, would you have been okay with a poster saying he does not really like Muslims?

Seriously?

I am critical of all religions, as they are a belief like anything and open to ridicule and criticism, but he is crossing over into dislike of people as a group themselves for their beliefs. Not extremist Christians, all Christians.

Seriously?

We are talking about Veys post yes?

He doesn't like any religious person per say though does he?

What he implied in his post was the posters remark and her attitude.

That is not what he said though is it on any religious person?

He was specific on one religious group of people.

Now I am asking you again, what would your view be to a poster saying he does not really like Muslims?

So Veya went wrong, is going off Dibs religion and not her poor view itself.

Its a strawman argument.

He should have been critical on the fact her view was poor itself and yet he went off because she was a Christian. Which he then is setting the standard of how a Christian should be. Which is really absurd, considering there is 42,000 Christian denominations. So in general a Christian, no matter their denomination, will see themselves as Christian.

Thorin wrote:

SEXY MAMA wrote:

Seriously?

We are talking about Veys post yes?

He doesn't like any religious person per say though does he?

What he implied in his post was the posters remark and her attitude.

That is not what he said though is it on any religious person?

He was specific on one religion.

Now I am asking you again, what would your view be to a poster saying he does not really like Muslims?

So Veya went wrong is going off Dibs religion and not her poor view itself.

Its a strawman argument.

he should have been critical on the fact her view was poor itself and yet he went off because she was a Christian. Which he then is setting the standard of how a Christian should be. Which is really absurd, considering there is 42,000 Christian denominations. So in general a Christian, no matter their denomination, will see themselves as Christian.

I think you are looking for an argument when there clearly isn't any need at all.

He said she goes against Christ's teachings

Is that saying Christians arent good people?

Think about this and wait until it sinks in