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Post by Original Quill Mon May 01, 2017 3:49 pm

Washington Post wrote:‘A beer in one hand, a gun in the other’: Man kills 1, injures 7 at San Diego apartment pool

A gunman opened fire at an apartment complex swimming pool in San Diego on Sunday evening, killing one person and injuring seven others before being fatally shot by officers, police said.

The gunman, identified as Peter Selis, was pronounced dead at the scene. Police described him as a white male who may have lived in one of the buildings, and said all of the victims were African American or Hispanic. Police said they did not know whether race was a factor in the attack.

Officers responded to reports of a shooting about 6 p.m. at the upscale La Jolla Crossroads apartments in San Diego’s University City neighborhood, where about 30 people had gathered for a birthday party at the pool.

A police helicopter arrived on the scene first and reported seeing a suspect armed with a handgun, surrounded by “numerous victims,” San Diego Police Chief Shelley Zimmerman said in a news conference. The pilot watched the suspect reload his weapon once and open fire again on the partygoers, she said.

A witness who saw the chaos from his apartment window said the shooter appeared calm as his victims struggled on the ground in front of him.

“We could see the shooter sitting there with a beer in one hand and a gun in the other,” the witness, who was not identified, told ABC 10.

Lauren Seed told NBC 7 she was inside her apartment when she heard six or seven shots ring out at the pool.

“We got down, we closed the windows and then about a minute later, six or seven more shots, lots of screaming, lots of people screaming,” she said. “From the screams, you could hear that somebody or multiple people were hit.”

A sergeant and two officers arrived and cornered the suspect in the pool area. The suspect pointed a large caliber handgun at them, and all three opened fire, killing him, Zimmerman said. She added that the suspect may have fired at police first.

Police said seven people were struck by gunfire: four African American women, two African American men and one Hispanic man. Another African American man broke his arm while running away from the shooting. All the victims were adults.

One of the women died at the hospital. Police did not give her name. Several of the others were listed in critical condition Sunday night, police said. It was unclear whether the suspect knew any of the victims.

Zimmerman said it was too early in the investigation to pinpoint a motive. Police were still interviewing witnesses and had not yet spoken at length with the three officers who opened fire, she said.

“Our hearts go out to the victims,” she said. “There’s a lot of work to be done.”

The La Jolla Crossroads apartments are located near the northernmost edge of San Diego, near the University of California campus. Community pools and spas are located throughout the complex, according to the La Jolla Crossroads website.

Witnesses said most of the people at Sunday’s party were black.

Amberjot Riat, 22, and Kaela Wong, 20, told the Los Angeles Times they were sitting in a hot tub when the shooting began. As they took cover behind a wall, they told the Times, they could hear the gunman say to some of the partygoers, “You can either leave or you can stay here and die.”

A resident of the complex told ABC 10 that he was outside when the gunfire erupted.

“It was surreal, you know, because we live here,” he said. “We literally saw people jumping out from the fences and running away like crazy.”

A man who said he was a guest at the party told the station it took him a few seconds to realize what was happening. There were “more rounds and then more sounds,” he said. “And that’s when I realized, oh, someone is actually shooting a gun at people. So that’s when all the scrambling started.”

After jumping a fence, he told ABC 10, he came across a young man clutching an injury and yelling, “I’m hit, I’m hit.”

“I said, come here,” the witness recalled, “and I picked him up and I just carried him around the corner.”

Seems like Trumpster minions are picking up their pace.  I guess the NRA was right.  First Hispanics, now blacks...don't be trading in your guns too soon.  You might have to fight back.

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Post by nicko Mon May 01, 2017 4:04 pm

He could have mental issues, like the Muslims who killed people earlier on.
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Post by Original Quill Mon May 01, 2017 4:12 pm

nicko wrote:He could have mental issues,  like the Muslims who killed people earlier on.

All racists have mental issues. I've been saying that for decades. But now it goes into the WH, where mental issues are becoming the new normal. Twisted Evil

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Post by Syl Mon May 01, 2017 4:31 pm

He could have mental issues, he is more likely to be an evil murderous racist who just hates anyone different to himself, like most terrorists are.
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Post by Original Quill Mon May 01, 2017 4:41 pm

As an aside, the prosecutors are looking to apply the California hate crime statute, on the basis of race.

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon May 01, 2017 10:37 pm

Given the huge and disproportionate amount of violent/sexual crimes against whites...
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Post by Original Quill Mon May 01, 2017 11:13 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Given the huge and disproportionate amount of violent/sexual crimes against whites...

...by whites, it would seem that this crime doesn't fall into that category. It is not a sex crime, and as a straight assassination, it is more typical of a racial hate of the sort that Dylann Roof committed in Charleston SC, for which he has received the death penalty.

Frankly, this is just the typical black lives (don't) matter sort of crime, for which the KKK is famous. Twisted Evil

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon May 01, 2017 11:27 pm

Even the op article says race not the motive...


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Post by The Devil, You Know Mon May 01, 2017 11:45 pm

Phil shiner wrote:
Washington Post wrote:‘A beer in one hand, a gun in the other’: Man kills 1, injures 7 at San Diego apartment pool

A gunman opened fire at an apartment complex swimming pool in San Diego on Sunday evening, killing one person and injuring seven others before being fatally shot by officers, police said.

The gunman, identified as Peter Selis, was pronounced dead at the scene. Police described him as a white male who may have lived in one of the buildings, and said all of the victims were African American or Hispanic. Police said they did not know whether race was a factor in the attack.

Officers responded to reports of a shooting about 6 p.m. at the upscale La Jolla Crossroads apartments in San Diego’s University City neighborhood, where about 30 people had gathered for a birthday party at the pool.

A police helicopter arrived on the scene first and reported seeing a suspect armed with a handgun, surrounded by “numerous victims,” San Diego Police Chief Shelley Zimmerman said in a news conference. The pilot watched the suspect reload his weapon once and open fire again on the partygoers, she said.

A witness who saw the chaos from his apartment window said the shooter appeared calm as his victims struggled on the ground in front of him.

“We could see the shooter sitting there with a beer in one hand and a gun in the other,” the witness, who was not identified, told ABC 10.

Lauren Seed told NBC 7 she was inside her apartment when she heard six or seven shots ring out at the pool.

“We got down, we closed the windows and then about a minute later, six or seven more shots, lots of screaming, lots of people screaming,” she said. “From the screams, you could hear that somebody or multiple people were hit.”

A sergeant and two officers arrived and cornered the suspect in the pool area. The suspect pointed a large caliber handgun at them, and all three opened fire, killing him, Zimmerman said. She added that the suspect may have fired at police first.

Police said seven people were struck by gunfire: four African American women, two African American men and one Hispanic man. Another African American man broke his arm while running away from the shooting. All the victims were adults.

One of the women died at the hospital. Police did not give her name. Several of the others were listed in critical condition Sunday night, police said. It was unclear whether the suspect knew any of the victims.

Zimmerman said it was too early in the investigation to pinpoint a motive. Police were still interviewing witnesses and had not yet spoken at length with the three officers who opened fire, she said.

“Our hearts go out to the victims,” she said. “There’s a lot of work to be done.”

The La Jolla Crossroads apartments are located near the northernmost edge of San Diego, near the University of California campus. Community pools and spas are located throughout the complex, according to the La Jolla Crossroads website.

Witnesses said most of the people at Sunday’s party were black.

Amberjot Riat, 22, and Kaela Wong, 20, told the Los Angeles Times they were sitting in a hot tub when the shooting began. As they took cover behind a wall, they told the Times, they could hear the gunman say to some of the partygoers, “You can either leave or you can stay here and die.”

A resident of the complex told ABC 10 that he was outside when the gunfire erupted.

“It was surreal, you know, because we live here,” he said. “We literally saw people jumping out from the fences and running away like crazy.”

A man who said he was a guest at the party told the station it took him a few seconds to realize what was happening. There were “more rounds and then more sounds,” he said. “And that’s when I realized, oh, someone is actually shooting a gun at people. So that’s when all the scrambling started.”

After jumping a fence, he told ABC 10, he came across a young man clutching an injury and yelling, “I’m hit, I’m hit.”

“I said, come here,” the witness recalled, “and I picked him up and I just carried him around the corner.”

Seems like Trumpster minions are picking up their pace.  I guess the NRA was right.  First Hispanics, now blacks...don't be trading in your guns too soon.  You might have to fight back.
are you saying he did this in the name of trump? or that he was a trump supporter as from what you posted there does not seem to be a mention of that.

I think what we can conclude from you slant on this is that it is fake news.

that does not mean the shooting didn't happen, just your interpretation of why
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Post by Ben Reilly Tue May 02, 2017 1:39 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Even the op article says race not the motive...



Police said they did not know whether race was a factor in the attack.

So yeah, not exactly.
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Post by Ben Reilly Tue May 02, 2017 1:41 am

However, other sources are saying he didn't do it out of racism:

On Sunday night, 49-year-old Peter Selis killed one person and wounded six others when he opened fire at a pool party in his San Diego apartment complex. According to San Diego Police Chief Shelley Zimmerman, he was “despondent” over a breakup and called his ex-girlfriend, because he “wanted [her] to listen in as he carried out his rampage.”

The incident was initially being investigated as a possible hate crime (Selis is white, all his victims are African-American or Hispanic) but Zimmerman told press there is “zero information to indicate that race played a factor in this terrible and horrific crime,” adding, “the victims were targeted for no reason other than their mere presence in the vicinity of the suspect.”

Selis and his girlfriend had split up a few days prior and he was reportedly “distraught and depressed.” He was also over $100,000 in debt.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/05/san-diego-shooter-peter-selis-ex-girlfriend.html
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Post by Original Quill Tue May 02, 2017 1:50 am

Deno wrote:are you saying he did this in the name of trump? or that he was a trump supporter as from what you posted there does not seem to be a mention of that.

It's a possibility, Deno. We know that Trump promoted violence against his adversaries, and lo, we've had black churches, Muslim mosques and Jewish synagogues bombed and burned. You be the judge...was he advocating?

Here we have a white man walk into a black group and start shooting indiscriminately. Looks like it to me. On Good Morning America a police official said they are looking into calling it a hate crime. What else could it be?

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