Accused child rapist jumps to his death in courthouse.

eddie wrote:Or was he pushed?
I hope he was pushed so he felt the horror of it.

eddie wrote:Perhaps they wanted him to do it?

I didn't watch the video I dint like seeing stuff like that when I'm not ready to view it.

magica wrote:I saw this, I wonder why he wasn't handcuffed, but allowed to walk alone and away from the guard's.

magica wrote:Yes and the papers were calling it death sentence trial, something like that. Would he have got bail if that was the case?

Original Quill wrote:

magica wrote:Yes and the papers were calling it death sentence trial, something like that. Would he have got bail if that was the case?

The standard for bail is twofold: 1) is he a flight risk; and 2) is he a threat to the community?

If he is out on bail, some judge has ruled 'no' in each case.  So in addition to the standard innocent until proven guilty, someone thinks there is a real chance that he is, if not exactly innocent, at least a minimal risk to the community.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

The standard for bail is twofold: 1) is he a flight risk; and 2) is he a threat to the community?

If he is out on bail, some judge has ruled 'no' in each case.  So in addition to the standard innocent until proven guilty, someone thinks there is a real chance that he is, if not exactly innocent, at least a minimal risk to the community.

He wasn't on bail.

"According to Mahoning County Sheriff Jerry Greene, Seman was not restrained by the deputies escorting him through the building, “Due to the fact that the courts do not want individuals on trial to be seen with restraining devices on, or per se, in custody,” Greene told WKBN. 

Seman had swapped his orange jail jumpsuit for civilian clothing before going to court and wore a brace under his pant leg to prevent him from running"



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4398784/Ohio-man-jumps-court-balcony-death-trial.html

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:

He wasn't on bail.

"According to Mahoning County Sheriff Jerry Greene, Seman was not restrained by the deputies escorting him through the building, “Due to the fact that the courts do not want individuals on trial to be seen with restraining devices on, or per se, in custody,” Greene told WKBN. 

Seman had swapped his orange jail jumpsuit for civilian clothing before going to court and wore a brace under his pant leg to prevent him from running"



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4398784/Ohio-man-jumps-court-balcony-death-trial.html

So I see.  Everything else fits...the civilian clothes and lack of restraints.  What isn't explained is, why wasn't he in custody?  Someone fooked up.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

So I see.  Everything else fits...the civilian clothes and lack of restraints.  What isn't explained is, why wasn't he in custody?  Someone fooked up.

He had just left the courtroom and was presumably being led back to his cell.....God knows considering the charges he was facing why he wasn't restrained.

Syl wrote:Its obvious in the video that the guards escorting him through the courthouse,, one who should be in front one behind took their eye off him.
On the bright side, him jumping saves the bother of a retrial.

Syl wrote:http://wkbn.com/2017/04/11/prosecutors-reveal-evidence-in-seman-triple-murder-case/

"YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (WKBN) – Prosecutors released new evidence Tuesday morning in the case of Robert Seman — the accused triple murderer who fell to his death Monday after leaping off a fourth-floor balcony in the Mahoning County Courthouse.
They held a press conference, telling some of the evidence they would have presented in trial next week in Portage County.
Seman was accused of setting fire to a Youngstown home in March of 2015, killing 10-year-old Corinne Gump and her grandparents, Bill and Judy Schmidt. Prosecutors said Seman set fire to the house where they lived because Gump was set to testify against him in a rape case."

"Later that morning — after Seman appeared in court for a hearing on his rape charges — deputies found make-up prosecutors claim was purchased on his way to the courthouse. They say it was used to cover burns on his face and head"

It seems he wasn't watched very well for a man facing such heinous charges,

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:http://wkbn.com/2017/04/11/prosecutors-reveal-evidence-in-seman-triple-murder-case/

"YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (WKBN) – Prosecutors released new evidence Tuesday morning in the case of Robert Seman — the accused triple murderer who fell to his death Monday after leaping off a fourth-floor balcony in the Mahoning County Courthouse.
They held a press conference, telling some of the evidence they would have presented in trial next week in Portage County.
Seman was accused of setting fire to a Youngstown home in March of 2015, killing 10-year-old Corinne Gump and her grandparents, Bill and Judy Schmidt. Prosecutors said Seman set fire to the house where they lived because Gump was set to testify against him in a rape case."

"Later that morning — after Seman appeared in court for a hearing on his rape charges — deputies found make-up prosecutors claim was purchased on his way to the courthouse. They say it was used to cover burns on his face and head"

It seems he wasn't watched very well for a man facing such heinous charges,

Frankly, it doesn't sound like he was in custody.  How could he just mosey on into a store and purchase rouge (or whatever) if he was in handcuffs?  And who would accompany/permit him?