Support for Scottish independence is up by 5%...

Clarkson wrote:BTW it wont happen.

Joy Division wrote:

Clarkson wrote:BTW it wont happen.

You don't know if it will happen for sure or not, i think it won't though.

You won't be booting anyone out, some Scots would say you have held England prisoner for long enough, Scotalnd will decide if it goes it alone.

And as for Scots meddling in English affaires your English chancellor is happy to collect North Sea oil revenue , so is that Scots oil or British?

I know it's British as we are a union, so don't go there.


Same goes for 'arrogant Scots'


Just don't try that with me Crystal Tits.

Catman wrote:

Joy Division wrote:



You don't know if it will happen for sure or not, i think it won't though.

You won't be booting anyone out, some Scots would say you have held England prisoner for long enough, Scotalnd will decide if it goes it alone.

And as for Scots meddling in English affaires your English chancellor is happy to collect North Sea oil revenue , so is that Scots oil or British?

I know it's British as we are a union, so don't go there.


Same goes for 'arrogant Scots'


Just don't try that with me Crystal Tits.

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Clarkson wrote:That's fine I would gladly wave you goodbye.

Just as well the English haven't got a vote we might boot you out.

Firstly the arrogance of the Scots thinking they are better than everyone else in the union.

Secondly your amount per capita given by the govt to Scots is far greater than to the English.

Thirdly your meddling in English law when we are blocked from dealing with Scottish Law making is most irritating.

If all Scots were like you Im sure your vote to split the union would be yes fortunately most have multiple brain cells.

Irn Bru wrote:

Clarkson wrote:That's fine I would gladly wave you goodbye.

Just as well the English haven't got a vote we might boot you out.

Firstly the arrogance of the Scots thinking they are better than everyone else in the union.

Secondly your amount per capita given by the govt to Scots is far greater than to the English.

Thirdly your meddling in English law when we are blocked from dealing with Scottish Law making is most irritating.

If all Scots were like you Im sure your vote to split the union would be yes fortunately most have multiple brain cells.

Read this and weep, Drinky...

The official statistics show Scotland contributed 9.9% of all UK revenues in 2011-12 but received only 9.3 per cent of total UK public sector expenditure, including a per capita share of UK debt interest payments.  Scotland’s population is 8.4 per cent of the UK total.

The figures also show Scotland has significantly lower deficit levels than the UK.  For 2011-12 the UK has a current budget deficit of 6 per cent of GDP or £92.3 bn.  Including a geographical share of North Sea revenues, Scotland’s current budget deficit would be £3.4bn or only 2.3 per cent of GDP.

It is Westminster and a majority of English MPs that decides Scotland's budget so Westminster does interfere in Scottish matters.

Joy Division wrote:

Catman wrote:

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I know Phil...I had too!

Drinky is trying to portray all Scots as hateful arseholes against the English, this is utter bollocks,of course some Scots and English do dislike each other, but only a minority, and even some of the ones who do most likely do so in gest ...the auld enemy type of thing.

Now, I'm not for an independent Scotalnd, but it is this biased, snobby Tory led coalition who make me want to be independent,


Nothing would be better than another Labour governments  office ,  to see that the poorer   Working classes were treated better and to try to halt this ' picking on those on benefits  and disabled folk'.

Clarkson wrote:Redo your figures for the last 40 years Bru you'll find a different outcome.

What about us having a say why don't we get one?

Would you wager against me that the Scots will bottle out. Of course you wont you are a Scot too tight firstly and just mouth you know I'm right.

Clarkson wrote:For once Scatman is right.

Scotland keep Labour in power.

Original Quill wrote:But it hasn't always been so.  The British have treated the Sottish horribly.  Elizabeth I committed regicide upon Mary Stuart.  The bitch was not even loyal to her own kin.  That has got to be repaid.

If I were voting in Scotland today, I would vote to oust the bastards. They deserve it.

Clarkson wrote:

Original Quill wrote:But it hasn't always been so.  The British have treated the Sottish horribly.  Elizabeth I committed regicide upon Mary Stuart.  The bitch was not even loyal to her own kin.  That has got to be repaid.

If I were voting in Scotland today, I would vote to oust the bastards. They deserve it.

Ffs that was centuries ago you donk.

What about your treatment of american indians. Napalming vietnemese etc etc.

Thought you were the educated lefty the exception to the rule I stand corrected.

What absolute fucking nonsense

Original Quill wrote:But it hasn't always been so.  The British have treated the Sottish horribly.  Elizabeth I committed regicide upon Mary Stuart.  The bitch was not even loyal to her own kin.  That has got to be repaid.

If I were voting in Scotland today, I would vote to oust the bastards. They deserve it.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Original Quill wrote:But it hasn't always been so.  The British have treated the Sottish horribly.  Elizabeth I committed regicide upon Mary Stuart.  The bitch was not even loyal to her own kin.  That has got to be repaid.

If I were voting in Scotland today, I would vote to oust the bastards. They deserve it.

If we're going to be repaying blood debts dating back to Elizabethan times, Quill, all I can say is that there are going to be an awful lot of bodies littering the streets...

nicko wrote:ok joy, it was nothing to do us now,and nothing to do with you either!! you weren't alive then and neither were any body alive today!

PhilDidge wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

If we're going to be repaying blood debts dating back to Elizabethan times, Quill, all I can say is that there are going to be an awful lot of bodies littering the streets...

Indeed me Lord
Not only that Quill being an American, what blood debt do they have to many of the indigenous?
Nobody can be accountable today for events of the past, centuries ago, yes we learn from them and recognise clearly wrongs done, but Scotland had no problem also joining with England and sharing in its spoils.

Joy Division wrote:

Catman wrote:

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I know Phil...I had too!

Drinky is trying to portray all Scots as hateful arseholes against the English, this is utter bollocks,of course some Scots and English do dislike each other, but only a minority, and even some of the ones who do most likely do so in gest ...the auld enemy type of thing.

Now, I'm not for an independent Scotalnd, but it is this biased, snobby Tory led coalition who make me want to be independent,


Nothing would be better than another Labour governments  office ,  to see that the poorer   Working classes were treated better and to try to halt this ' picking on those on benefits  and disabled folk'.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


I know Phil...I had too!

Drinky is trying to portray all Scots as hateful arseholes against the English, this is utter bollocks,of course some Scots and English do dislike each other, but only a minority, and even some of the ones who do most likely do so in gest ...the auld enemy type of thing.

Now, I'm not for an independent Scotalnd, but it is this biased, snobby Tory led coalition who make me want to be independent,


Nothing would be better than another Labour governments  office ,  to see that the poorer   Working classes were treated better and to try to halt this ' picking on those on benefits  and disabled folk'.

Setting aside the politicking, JD, since the lady who is beginning to play a part in my life has a Mac in front of her name and proudly wore her clan tartan shawl when she took me to a dram-laden Burns Night celebration last week, do you think I might qualify for a visa when we get rid of you, er, when you achieve independence?

As you know, I'm part way to being a Scot, but the word "quadroon"  springs immediately to mind.

Joy Division wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Setting aside the politicking, JD, since the lady who is beginning to play a part in my life has a Mac in front of her name and proudly wore her clan tartan shawl when she took me to a dram-laden Burns Night celebration last week, do you think I might qualify for a visa when we get rid of you, er, when you achieve independence?

As you know, I'm part way to being a Scot, but the word "quadroon"  springs immediately to mind.

...hopefully you enjoyed that Burns night celebration Ed, and I'm very pleased things that you are beginning to have some enjoyment again

I'm sure you will be granted a visa Ed as you are quarter Scots anyway!

But I think the visa is in the bag if you can throw a boomerang  and make it come back to you !

Failing that, I'll put a word in with the Scottish Government, should we vote for independence

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Original Quill wrote:But it hasn't always been so.  The British have treated the Sottish horribly.  Elizabeth I committed regicide upon Mary Stuart.  The bitch was not even loyal to her own kin.  That has got to be repaid.

If I were voting in Scotland today, I would vote to oust the bastards. They deserve it.

If we're going to be repaying blood debts dating back to Elizabethan times, Quill, all I can say is that there are going to be an awful lot of bodies littering the streets...

Warren Moon wrote:Nobody has a full list of the details, how can they vote?


Will Scottish students have to pay university fees in England?

Warren Moon wrote:Scotland doesn't own any waters so what about NS oil?

Warren Moon wrote:Will all subsidies from England stop?

Warren Moon wrote:Will current Scottish MP's and Lords be kicked out?

Warren Moon wrote:Will the queen sell Balmoral?

Warren Moon wrote:What about airbases and submarine ports?

Warren Moon wrote:The British open golf will never be played in Scotland?

Warren Moon wrote:Will all imports from Scotland be taxed?

Original Quill wrote:

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Original Quill wrote:But it hasn't always been so.  The British have treated the Sottish horribly.  Elizabeth I committed regicide upon Mary Stuart.  The bitch was not even loyal to her own kin.  That has got to be repaid.

If I were voting in Scotland today, I would vote to oust the bastards. They deserve it.

If we're going to be repaying blood debts dating back to Elizabethan times, Quill, all I can say is that there are going to be an awful lot of bodies littering the streets...

My, my...so sensitive.  It's just a fact.  It is what it is. ::dunno:: 

Repaying debts, or voting for independence?  Big difference.  What I'm saying is y'all--English--didn't do much to endear the Scots to you.

There's more if you want...William III?  The Clearances?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances  I'd keep goin, but I'd just be showing my dance steps.  The point is made.

Original Quill wrote:

Warren Moon wrote:Nobody has a full list of the details, how can they vote?


Will Scottish students have to pay university fees in England?

In my opinion, the better universities are in Scotland.  But ok...if no, not a big deal.

Warren Moon wrote:Scotland doesn't own any waters so what about NS oil?

The EU has already declared that if Scotland splits off, the NS oil belongs to the Scots.

Warren Moon wrote:Will all subsidies from England stop?

Will they be necessary?

Warren Moon wrote:Will current Scottish MP's and Lords be kicked out?

Well, of course.  They don't have time to help run two countries.

Warren Moon wrote:Will the queen sell Balmoral?

She's allowed to have foreign estates, as long as she pays property taxes.

Warren Moon wrote:What about airbases and submarine ports?

Scapa Flow, of course, will become Scotland's.  As two independent countries, they are free to make any contractual arrangements they want.

Warren Moon wrote:The British open golf will never be played in Scotland?

But St. Andrews is a dream.

Warren Moon wrote:Will all imports from Scotland be taxed?

That will be up to England.

Fred Moletrousers wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


...hopefully you enjoyed that Burns night celebration Ed, and I'm very pleased things that you are beginning to have some enjoyment again

I'm sure you will be granted a visa Ed as you are quarter Scots anyway!

But I think the visa is in the bag if you can throw a boomerang  and make it come back to you !

Failing that, I'll put a word in with the Scottish Government, should we vote for independence

Greatly enjoyed Burns Night, my first, though I have to confess that I didn't understand a word when a rather large Scot in full regalia engaged a haggis in a long and animated, if somewhat one-sided, conversation and then proceeded to assassinate it with a bloody big dagger.

Still, it tasted delicious (please don't tell me what was in it!) and the Scotch was excellent.

Ps. The evening rounded off with an illustrated lecture by an expert on the Loch Ness monster. He said it doesn't exist.

Clarkson wrote:Tail wagging the dog comes to mind. A few million jocks telling the English Welsh and Irish they are better than us.