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Post by Guest Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:45 pm

Parents caught practising female genital mutilation on their children should not be prosecuted, a police force has claimed as it says the best course of action is to “educate parents”.

The claims, made by West Midlands Police on social media yesterday, have provoked criticism from MPs and child welfare activists, who said the force’s reluctance to seek prosecution was “deeply disturbing”.

The feud comes after a spokesman for the force claimed that it was against “prosecuting/jailing” parents who had carried out FGM on the grounds that it would be “unlikely to benefit” children who fall victim to the crime.

Instead, they claimed that the force had opted to focus on “education and safeguarding vulnerable girls”, rather than seeking prosecution in court.

The stance appears to contradict efforts made by Theresa May whilst Home Secretary to clamp down on the crime, following disclosures last year that there has not been a single conviction for FGM in the UK - despite it being an offence since 1985.

Tim Loughton, a member of the Home Affairs Committee, said the reluctance to pursue prosecution was “extremely dangerous”, adding it made “no sense” to go after cases of historic child abuse whilst at the same time allowing FGM offenders to “get away with it”.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/27/fgm-should-not-prosecuted-police-force-says-claims-best-course/

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Post by veya_victaous Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:00 am

crazy, Charge them as you would any other child abuser.
I wouldn't even limit to just FGM and Child Genital mutilation is abuse.
Culture is not an excuse
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:26 am

veya_victaous wrote:crazy, Charge them as you would any other child abuser.
I wouldn't even limit to just FGM and Child Genital mutilation is abuse.
Culture is not an excuse


Exactly Veya, its child abuse, and those involved should be prosecuted.
Talk about kicking the victims in the teeth

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Post by Syl Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:26 pm

veya_victaous wrote:crazy, Charge them as you would any other child abuser.
I wouldn't even limit to just FGM and Child Genital mutilation is abuse.
Culture is not an excuse

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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:47 pm

I have a particular hatred of this practice, particularly the pharaonic circumcision. It's absolutely brutal.

Can you imagine a young girl going through this?

The penetration of the bride's infibulation takes anywhere from 3 or 4 days to several months. Some men are unable to penetrate their wives at all (in my study over 15%), and the task is often accomplished by a midwife under conditions of great secrecy, since this reflects negatively on the man's potency. Some who are unable to penetrate their wives manage to get them pregnant in spite of the infibulation, and the woman's vaginal passage is then cut open to allow birth to take place. ... Those men who do manage to penetrate their wives do so often, or perhaps always, with the help of the "little knife." This creates a tear which they gradually rip more and more until the opening is sufficient to admit the penis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation
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Post by Original Quill Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:16 pm

It is strange, but around the world every culture has some sort of fetish having to do with genital mutilation. Wonder why?

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Post by HoratioTarr Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:43 am

Original Quill wrote:It is strange, but around the world every culture has some sort of fetish having to do with genital mutilation.  Wonder why?

In the case of FGM, men's egos. FGM is carried out as a way to control women's sexuality. Objectifying them as a man's property etc.
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Post by magica Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:49 am

This is a disgusting barbaric practice and has no place in this country. Those who do this to their little girls or send them back to their country to have this done, should be arrested with neglect, child abuse and barbarism.

They won't, as they're scared to upset these people, it's blood ridiculous. What about safety for the victims in this, the little girls.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:11 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Original Quill wrote:It is strange, but around the world every culture has some sort of fetish having to do with genital mutilation.  Wonder why?

In the case of FGM, men's egos.    FGM is carried out as a way to control women's sexuality.   Objectifying them as a man's property etc.  

Then why circumcision?  Male, female...it's a preoccupation with and of the human condition.  Jews and Muslims even incorporate it into their religion, it's that bad.  

I can understand if it were clinically needed--like, say, knee replacement surgery--but in most cultures there is nothing wrong.  They do it because they think the old man in the sky told them to.  So sick.

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Post by eddie Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:00 pm

Good point Quill. No one seems to be in an uproar about circumcision, and that's been going on for years and years.
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Post by HoratioTarr Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:44 pm

Original Quill wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

In the case of FGM, men's egos.    FGM is carried out as a way to control women's sexuality.   Objectifying them as a man's property etc.  

Then why circumcision?  Male, female...it's a preoccupation with and of the human condition.  Jews and Muslims even incorporate it into their religion, it's that bad.  

I can understand if it were clinically needed--like, say, knee replacement surgery--but in most cultures there is nothing wrong.  They do it because they think the old man in the sky told them to.  So sick.

Manhood passage rites. Cleanliness. There are a variety of reasons for male circumcision but FGM...there's no other excuse for that other than a surgical chastity belt.
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Post by Guest Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:50 pm

eddie wrote:Good point Quill. No one seems to be in an uproar about circumcision, and that's been going on for years and years.  

No child should have forced on them circumcision, unless for medical reasons.
I against any child, without their consent having their body abused based on religious grounds.
It should be up to the individual, when in adulthood, whether they wish to have this procedure.

So to answer Quill, yes its wrong to force this on any child, not matter the sex, for religious or cultural reasons.

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