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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:42 pm

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WASHINGTON — Case 7682299: Aug. 1, 2010. A mother gives her toddler three homeopathic pills to relieve her teething pain. Within minutes, the baby stops breathing.

“My daughter had a seizure, lost consciousness, and stopped breathing about 30 minutes after I gave her three Hyland’s Teething Tablets,” the mother later told the Food and Drug Administration. “She had to receive mouth-to-mouth CPR to resume breathing and was brought to the hospital.”


The company, Hyland’s, promotes “safe, effective, and natural health solutions” that appeal to parents seeking alternative treatments. But the agency would soon hear much more about Hyland’s teething products. Staff at the FDA would come to consider Case 7682299 one of the luckier outcomes.


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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:52 pm

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Well cigarettes contain many nasty materials - vaccines contain mercury - lots of medicines contain lots of "harmful" ingredients (look at chemo!)
But we still get peddled them by the powers that be.

I think it's very naive to think that everything we are prescribed is somehow "safe".


Since when did doctors prescribe cigarettes Eddie?

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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:55 pm

Joking aside, there have been many so called medically proven and researched drugs that have been detrimental to health.
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Post by nicko Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:27 pm

I saw one advert long time ago,-------------Smoke Craven A it's good for your throat !
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:48 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Thorin wrote:


Since when did doctors prescribe cigarettes Eddie?

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PMSL

That is an advert for Camels cigarettes

So again, when did doctors prescribe cigarettes?

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:45 pm

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Yes. I'm not saying that the pharma industry and/or the medical profession are to blame. Sometimes, it's impossible to determine all the serious adverse effects until the drug has been on the market for a while. There are also drugs which are known to carry potentially serious side effects, but the benefits are thought to outweigh the risks - depending on the severity of the disease which is being treated.

I think the trouble with homeopathic and/or herbal remedies is that some people think they are totally harmless, so they take them at the drop of a hat. However, some of them can be quite powerful. For example, anti-depressants carry a warning that they should not be taken in combination with St John's Wort.

And everyone knows nutmeg gives you hallucinations if you take enough.... bounce

I didn't know that. Laughing I did read that green tea can give you hallucinations, but I don't know if it's true.

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Post by JulesV Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:45 pm

I am generally happy with the standards of the manufacturers of conventional medicines.  They always carefully list all the known side effects to watch out for, and what to do if they happen. They also have in place fast track systems for reporting any unexpected effects so that the matter can be dealt with promptly.

My only complaint is their exorbitant prices for life saving drugs.  Whenever they bring out a new life-saving wonderdrug they can name their  price, frankly.  And they know it. That's when they get greedy.

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Post by Victorismyhero Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:23 pm

Jules wrote:
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This thread has the potential to be a GREAT one provided people resist the temptation to take it into too many different directions. Hopefully it's not too late to salvage it cos there are some really good talking points.

For a start it should be confined mainly to babies and small kids as per title - their health is a very different kettle of fish from adults'  hence why they need their own separate specialist doctors.

Also Homeopathic medicines should really be discussed separately from conventional ones.

WHY  in the case of THIS one it obvioulsy contained significant amounts of an active ingredient (which is also known and used in conventional medicine) so its NOT any different to any other drug on the market.

Sorry LF, didn't see your post there. The question is - was it meant  to contain significant amounts of an active ingredient .... or did this happen by accident,  due to faulty preparation?  After all, isn't the infinite dilution process meant to remove almost all traces of the active ingredient?

look at the maths of it that I posted

the european dilution series down to 12N doesnt...cannot ...contain any of the original substance, however the American 12 X dilution most certainly does
and just how much it contains depends entirely on the care with which it is prepared....

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