Redback spider kills Brown snake

by 'Wolfie Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:28 am

WHY people shouldn't pick on Aussie wildlife...

They could bite back..

Watch this video :

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/animals/redback-attacks-brown-snake-in-amazing-video/news-story/0a646a59aa71c66446926da9c76533a7

by Raggamuffin Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:40 am

Who said the snake picked on the spider? It was caught in a web.

The snake is tiny - I was expecting something much bigger!

by Guest Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:19 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Who said the snake picked on the spider? It was caught in a web.

The snake is tiny - I was expecting something much bigger!

The spider is ten times smaller at least. It would be like going up to an elephant caught in a man trap, and trying to bite its leg.

Would you do that Rags?

lol!

@Thanks for posting Wolf, that was really cool to see.

by Raggamuffin Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:35 pm

The spider is about the same width as the snake though, and the snake is stuck in the web. I would say the spider had an unfair advantage!

by Original Quill Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:44 pm

It's nature...survival of the fittest. Nothing unfair about it. It is what it is.

by eddie Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:36 pm

by Syl Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:44 pm

eddie wrote:

Ditto.
Snakes don't bother me, I have a pic of a huge one round my neck.
I would prefer 10 of them to a little bitty spider.

by 'Wolfie Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:47 pm

Raggamuffin does have a point, though...

That snake is a baby..

The spider is maybe 3-4 cms wide (their body is usually anywhere between 3 and 4 mm, up to maybe 10-12 mm for big old gigantic mean females -- the rest of their size being in the leg span..).

The snake is obviously young -- mature brown snakes are from around 90 cm (3 feet..) up to a couple of metres for some big old granddaddy/grandma specimens..

Redbacks don't build big strong webs, so that a bigger and older snake wouldn't be trapped.

Back in the mid-80s, while on holiday up on the far north coast, I rescued a baby 'Small scaled' snake (only about 15 cms/6" long) from a redback's web and released it next to a nearby creek. On checking up the type of snake later on, I found out that the adult (only around 40--60 cm long when fully grown, and relatively rare), is one of the most toxic snakes in the world ! However, because of it's scarcity, and being less aggressive than some, less people are bitten by Small scaled snakes, so they are further down the "dangerous" list.. Smile

by magica Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:03 pm

I prefer snakes to spiders, I'm terrified of them.

by Syl Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:43 pm

magica wrote:I prefer snakes to spiders, I'm terrified of them.

For Mags.....enjoy. Laughing

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by eddie Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:39 pm

She said she prefers snakes so wouldn't you have posted a picture of a spider? Rolling Eyes

by Syl Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:53 pm

eddie wrote:She said she prefers snakes so wouldn't you have posted a picture of a spider?

Now why would I want to scare lovely Mags Eddie....do I really seem that cruel?

Twisted Evil

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by magica Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:18 pm

Yikes, it looked real Shocked

by eddie Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:32 pm

Syl is just mean. Evil or Very Mad

by magica Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:50 am

Meaner than mean Eddie, but I have a cunning plan Twisted Evil

She hates spiders too Laughing

by veya_victaous Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:14 am

Syl wrote:
eddie wrote:

Ditto.
Snakes don't bother me, I have a pic of a huge one round my neck.
I would prefer 10 of them to a little bitty spider.

it's the same deal with both the big ones are less threat to humans
little ones tend to have stronger poison.
and in snakes case the big ones are constrictors so don't even have poison

Wolf and huntsman spiders that can get big are not venomous enough to do anything to humans
I've been bitten by an extra large wolf spider just bleeds a lot since the venom thins the blood but doesn't even make you feel sick Wink

by Syl Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:42 pm

Even the sight of a house spider makes me feel physically sick, and that is the truth. pale

by Syl Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:49 pm

magica wrote:Meaner than mean Eddie, but I have a cunning plan

She hates spiders too

Mags and Eddie....you are forcing me to bring the big guys in. Razz

Which is unfortunate because I'm knocking myself sick now. Rolling Eyes

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by 'Wolfie Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:53 pm

I wonder how Syl would feel about some of those giant pythons found in F. N. Queensland, Indonesia or Burma (those that can grow up to 9 metres in length..)..

Or how about coming face-to-face with a 2 metre black snake, a Taipan, a King Brown, a Death Adder or maybe a Tiger snake ? Surprised

http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/science-environment/2012/07/australias-10-most-dangerous-snakes/

http://lifeinthefastlane.com/top-12-deadliest-snakes/

by Syl Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:58 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

I wonder how Syl would feel about some of those giant pythons found in F. N. Queensland, Indonesia or Burma (those that can grow up to 9 metres in length..)..

Or how about coming face-to-face with a 2 metre black snake, a Taipan, a King Brown, a Death Adder or maybe a Tiger snake ?

I have already said...I don't have an irrational fear of snakes.

by 'Wolfie Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:08 pm

Nothing irrational about Australia having 16 out of the 20 most dangerous snakes crawling around on the mainland...

And the Taipans, King Browns, Tiger snakes and Death Adders look quite a bit different to those cute and cuddly and friendly Carpet snakes and Diamond Pythons (the two varieties of python most likely to be encountered in petting zoos and snake shows down here..).

http://www.petdirectory.com.au/?page=directory&listingid=19955&country=1§ion=8

https://aussiepythons.com/forum

by magica Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:38 pm

Syl wrote:
magica wrote:Meaner than mean Eddie, but I have a cunning plan

She hates spiders too

Mags and Eddie....you are forcing me to bring the big guys in.
Which is unfortunate because I'm knocking myself sick now.

Shivers, even seeing them on here I have to scoot past they make me feel sick too Syl, that and injections.

by 'Wolfie Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:07 pm

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Those Huntsman and "wolf" spiders are among the more harmless, "gentle" and benign species of spiders....

Often found in houses around here, sometimes in cars as well, most people either move them outside or leave them alone..

Also are probably the most popular for filming for "horror" movies, because they film well and are aesy to "wrangle" on film sets -- but still look noce and scary on film. tongue

by magica Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:30 pm

I saw the Huntsman when in Australia Wolf, it was huge, scared the life out of me, especially when told it was a baby! affraid

by Original Quill Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:33 pm

Wolf spiders are totally harmless. Mothers carry hundreds of babies on their backs. They used to fall into my pool in Arizona and I would rescue them with the pool net.

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They are great for the desert as they eat bark scorpions, which can be dangerous.

by Syl Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:38 pm

Original Quill wrote:Wolf spiders are totally harmless. Mothers carry hundreds of babies on their backs. They used to fall into my pool in Arizona and I would rescue them with the pool net.

They are great for the desert as they eat bark scorpions, which can be dangerous.

I read that quick and thought you had written.... "They are great for dessert". Redback spider kills Brown snake 703834

by Raggamuffin Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:40 pm

Syl wrote:Even the sight of a house spider makes me feel physically sick, and that is the truth.

This is something that people need to get over because house spiders are quite common, especially in September. Someone who has a phobia about snakes is much less likely to encounter one in the UK.

by Syl Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:42 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:Even the sight of a house spider makes me feel physically sick, and that is the truth.

This is something that people need to get over because house spiders are quite common, especially in September. Someone who has a phobia about snakes is much less likely to encounter one in the UK.

I know...it's awful to dread Spider season when they come into the house.
If anyone knows of a cure I would be happy to hear of it, for me it never gets any better.

by Raggamuffin Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:43 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

This is something that people need to get over because house spiders are quite common, especially in September. Someone who has a phobia about snakes is much less likely to encounter one in the UK.

I know...it's awful to dread Spider season when they come into the house.
If anyone knows of a cure I would be happy to hear of it, for me it never gets any better.

Have one run all over you, or creep over the seat in the car whilst you're driving - that'll cure you. Laughing

by Syl Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:50 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:

I know...it's awful to dread Spider season when they come into the house.
If anyone knows of a cure I would be happy to hear of it, for me it never gets any better.

Have one run all over you, or creep over the seat in the car whilst you're driving - that'll cure you.

No thanks....I think I might die of heart failure.

by Raggamuffin Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:54 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Have one run all over you, or creep over the seat in the car whilst you're driving - that'll cure you.

No thanks....I think I might die of heart failure.

You won't. It happened to me, and I didn't. That's when I decided that it was stupid to get hysterical over a spider. If there's one in your car, you need to stay calm so you don't run someone over!

by Syl Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:00 pm

I have tried to conquer my fear. I studied a big one in the sink once, it was wet and I thought it was dead, so I leaned in to try to work out why they were so frightening to me.
Just as I was coming to terms with it, it's legs shot out and it made a run for me.
It knew...and it exploited my fear. Evil or Very Mad

by Raggamuffin Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:03 pm

Syl wrote:I have tried to conquer my fear. I studied a big one in the sink once, it was wet and I thought it was dead, so I leaned in to try to work out why they were so frightening to me.
Just as I was coming to terms with it, it's legs shot out and it made a run for me.
It knew...and it exploited my fear.

I used to be like you, but I decided I was going to get over it because you never know when you're going to encounter one. I can now put a glass over one, slide cardboard underneath, and put it out in the garden without getting hysterical. Laughing

by Syl Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:12 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:I have tried to conquer my fear. I studied a big one in the sink once, it was wet and I thought it was dead, so I leaned in to try to work out why they were so frightening to me.
Just as I was coming to terms with it, it's legs shot out and it made a run for me.
It knew...and it exploited my fear.

I used to be like you, but I decided I was going to get over it because you never know when you're going to encounter one. I can now put a glass over one, slide cardboard underneath, and put it out in the garden without getting hysterical.

We had this conversation a couple of years ago and I have tried. I can put a pint pot over one(a small one) if I am in on my own, but its an ordeal, I then have to leave the room till OH comes in. Laughing

by Raggamuffin Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:18 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I used to be like you, but I decided I was going to get over it because you never know when you're going to encounter one. I can now put a glass over one, slide cardboard underneath, and put it out in the garden without getting hysterical.

We had this conversation a couple of years ago and I have tried. I can put a pint pot over one(a small one) if I am in on my own, but its an ordeal, I then have to leave the room till OH comes in.

That must be very inconvenient. Laughing

If I know there's a spider in the room, I want it to go right away, so I trained myself to do it. I still shudder a bit obviously, but I don't feel ill or anything. It's not their fault they have big bent legs and scuttle about. Razz

by Syl Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:26 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Syl wrote:

We had this conversation a couple of years ago and I have tried. I can put a pint pot over one(a small one) if I am in on my own, but its an ordeal, I then have to leave the room till OH comes in.

That must be very inconvenient. If I know there's a spider in the room, I want it to go right away, so I trained myself to do it. I still shudder a bit obviously, but I don't feel ill or anything. It's not their fault they have big bent legs and scuttle about.

I think the bent legs is the thing I hate most...and the hairy bodies, and the quickness, and the way some of them jump.... Shocked

I am leaving this thread now. pale

by magica Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:05 pm

I can't even put a glass over it. It has the room to itself until o/h comes in, then he has to track it down. It's either that or I must watch to see where it goes. I hate this thread cos bet I see one now!

by Miffs2 Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:51 am

Syl wrote:I have tried to conquer my fear. I studied a big one in the sink once, it was wet and I thought it was dead, so I leaned in to try to work out why they were so frightening to me.
Just as I was coming to terms with it, it's legs shot out and it made a run for me.
It knew...and it exploited my fear.

Exactly, the little gets know Evil or Very Mad

About 10 years ago I picked up a tomato stalk that turned out to be a spider affraid

I can still feel it to this day Shocked

by Syl Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:17 pm

Miffs2 wrote:
Syl wrote:I have tried to conquer my fear. I studied a big one in the sink once, it was wet and I thought it was dead, so I leaned in to try to work out why they were so frightening to me.
Just as I was coming to terms with it, it's legs shot out and it made a run for me.
It knew...and it exploited my fear.

Exactly, the little gets know
About 10 years ago I picked up a tomato stalk that turned out to be a spider
I can still feel it to this day

I have a deep mistrust of tomato stalks, they have scared me to death on quite a few occasions, they look remarkably like spiders.

by eddie Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:09 pm

Syl wrote:
Miffs2 wrote:
Syl wrote:I have tried to conquer my fear. I studied a big one in the sink once, it was wet and I thought it was dead, so I leaned in to try to work out why they were so frightening to me.
Just as I was coming to terms with it, it's legs shot out and it made a run for me.
It knew...and it exploited my fear.

Exactly, the little gets know
About 10 years ago I picked up a tomato stalk that turned out to be a spider
I can still feel it to this day

I have a deep mistrust of tomato stalks, they have scared me to death on quite a few occasions, they look remarkably like spiders.

You are both so right! Except mine was the other way round.....

I got a shoe and beat a spider to death on my kitchen floor only to discover it was a tomato stalk.

by Raggamuffin Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:29 pm

Killing spiders is where you're going wrong. If you see them as living creatures which have a right to live, you'll feel differently about them.

by eddie Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:41 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Killing spiders is where you're going wrong. If you see them as living creatures which have a right to live, you'll feel differently about them.

Can I kill tomato stalks?

by Raggamuffin Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:43 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Killing spiders is where you're going wrong. If you see them as living creatures which have a right to live, you'll feel differently about them.

Can I kill tomato stalks?

Only if you're bonkers. Laughing

by Syl Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:03 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:

Can I kill tomato stalks?

Only if you're bonkers.

I don't like killing them, my OH does ...and tbh I am so frightened I just want them gone.

A couple of years ago I saw legs and bits of spider body on my stairs....a bigger spider which I saw later must have killed and eaten some of it.
This is what we are dealing with....so I don't have much sympathy for them. Evil or Very Mad

by eddie Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:15 pm

A half-eaten spider. Nice. Thanks for that.

by magica Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:17 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Only if you're bonkers.

I don't like killing them, my OH does ...and tbh I am so frightened I just want them gone.

A couple of years ago I saw legs and bits of spider body on my stairs....a bigger spider which I saw later must have killed and eaten some of it.
This is what we are dealing with....so I don't have much sympathy for them.

Thanx for that Syl, another sleepless night Evil or Very Mad

by Raggamuffin Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:25 pm

See how your fear is affecting you all? You need to get over it. Laughing

by magica Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:31 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:See how your fear is affecting you all? You need to get over it.

Oh Rags I admit I'm a scaredy cat, the very thought of them makes my skin crawl, even the word makes me shiver. I need help lol!

by Raggamuffin Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:34 pm

magica wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:See how your fear is affecting you all? You need to get over it.

Oh Rags I admit I'm a scaredy cat, the very thought of them makes my skin crawl, even the word makes me shiver. I need help

Get a plastic one and put it on your pillow at night. That'll cure you. Laughing

by eddie Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:34 pm

Me too mags. No one gets it. They are fast and have too many legs.

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