Are liberal teachers brainwashing children in schools?

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Firstly my own disclaimer: this is a Katie Hopkins article in the Daily Mail (horrid paper), so I'm not sure how much of it is true....a lot of 'parent hearsay'.
I'm putting this here for discussion as I think it's rather interesting:


KATIE HOPKINS: Schools are supposed to teach kids HOW to think for themselves, not WHAT to think. So why are so many liberal teachers bullying and brain-washing children with their own intolerant views?

Are you sitting comfortably, children? Then I have a creative task for you. Tell me, is this poem from the Bush era, still relevant today?

'When the president talks to god

Does he ever think that maybe he's not?

That that voice is just inside his head

When he kneels next to the presidential bed

Does he ever smell his own bulls**t When the president talks to god.

I doubt it. I doubt it.'

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what is being taught in British schools. Teachers asking children to think about Trump and his bulls**t. And whether he smells it.

Do they smell their own I wonder? I doubt it, I doubt it.


Thirteen-year-old children were given this poem in a 'creative writing task', and were asked to imagine 'how Trump would react'


Another teacher made protest banners with her class of twelve-year-olds (I repeat: twelve-year-olds) which she took along to the protest against Trump outside Westminster.

She even had a pathetic picture taken to commemorate the occasion.

Tell me: would you be happy if this was the teacher of your twelve-year-old?

Even as my suspicions have been growing about the indoctrination of our young children by so-called liberals, so has the number of stories arriving in my inbox.

Worried parents whose little kids come home repeating opinions they have been taught in school, rather than lessons, wondering how they should talk to the school about it without getting their kids into trouble.

Children being taught that Trump is a bad man and a racist. That Brexit is wrong. That the correct answer is Clinton.

A young man aged 17 from Hertfordshire was ostracised from his politics class for daring to admit he supported Trump. He was told by the teacher to have 'less strong views' and was isolated by his class.

Eventually he dropped the subject completely because no one would sit with him or talk to him.

A child isolated for his opinion and hounded for his views.  

Another worried mother, Rachel from Solihull recounts that her eight-year-old came home from primary school and asked her why she liked Trump when he is a racist and hates women.

And then this from a mum in Bournemouth

'My seven-year-old daughter came home from school saying she had been learning Donald Trump's job is to take care of all the people but he doesn't because he is a nasty evil man.

'I asked her why, and she said ... in school they had been shown a newspaper of a little girl holding up a sign saying 'not my President' because Trump had held a book and sworn to take care of all people but he lied.

'Because American people don't have newspapers, they cannot see what a horrible man he really is and what he is really like. And a lady wanted to be president and she actually got more votes than him. But they still let him win. And that's not fair.'


Much more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4194048/KATIE-HOPKINS-liberal-brainwashing-schools.html#ixzz4XwsKYiqC


This was pinned to a classroom wall by a teacher. I think it holds a lovely message actually but is it too political for children?

Tommy Monk said...
Eddie... just admit it... your sons 'politics debate' was just a teacher led controlled airing of leftie views, where all roads led to 'brexit and trump are bad'...

Eddie said...
No Tommy. I just think you're actually ultra-paranoid and I also know that you have absolutely no concept of intelligent 15 and 16 year olds now. All the information they gather and read and digest are off the Internet so they have a huge variety of opinion to choose from. This isn't a generation that watches the news.
I have many of these clever young creatures eating round my dinner table on any given night and their intelligence, knowledge on world affairs  and fairness, would put you to shame.

The question was...

Tommy Monk said...
Do you really believe that the ones you know are actually formulating any of the (seemingly big/intelligent) ideas/opinions themselves, that you hear them expressing...?

Are the ones you know really intelligent or just repeating stuff they have heard in their social media echo chambers to try to sound clever...?

Although I think you may have already answered the question with this...


"...All the information they gather and read and digest are off the Internet so they have a huge variety of opinion to choose from..."


Reading and repeating the opinions of others is no demonstration of intelligence... and is certainly the opposite of independent thought...

So have I answered or not? I thought I had answered and you kept telling me I hadn't. I kept telling you I had then I wrote this at sometime after 3am:

Well. Curiosity killed the cat and I'm curious sweetie pie. I've had a couple of whiskys and I will be charming and acquiescing.

What, exactly, in all of my rambling shite, have you not understood?
Ask me a direct question Tommy, just one, and I will do my very best to answer you.

Then you made those two posts above and claim that I've answered.
Im getting majorly bored.

I'm not 100% sure eddie... you seem to be claiming that all the teenagers are intelligent free thinkers who formulate their own ideas/opinions... but then you also say the opposite is true by saying that they choose their opinions from those of others that they see on the internet...

Tommy Monk wrote:I'm not 100% sure eddie... you seem to be claiming that all the teenagers are intelligent free thinkers who formulate their own ideas/opinions... but then you also say the opposite is true by saying that they choose their opinions from those of others that they see on the internet...

In much the same way as you, yourself, will read something (article, opinions, news story etc) and decide whether you will "believe" it or not?

You do understand they have the same access to the same online information, as you?

So you are claiming to either be as unintelligent and non-independent in your thinking as the teens OR you are as intelligent and independent-thinking, as the teens??

Which is it?

So now you say I'm the same as them...?


Previously you said their abilities would put me to shame... and that my brain was old and jaded and not as able in opinions...

Tommy Monk wrote:

So now you say I'm the same as them...?


Previously you said their abilities would put me to shame... and that my brain was old and jaded and not as able in opinions...

By your own reasoning, you made yourself the same and pissed down the leg of your own argument.

No... it was your reasoning that tried to make us all the same by equating access to internet to then result in all having the same levels of intelligence and ability to think freely... which is simply not true...

Tommy is right that it does not make us equals
People like him that take opinion pieces over numerical facts are far less intelligent.

People that come for a position of hate fear and nationalism will never be free thinking since their mind are imprisoned by primitive emotions. Ones that are overly concerned about their inability to compete and thus blame others for their failings are clearly not as intelligent either, if they were they would not fear migration, why would they they have the confidence based in education intelligence and skill that they know allows them to complete.

So tommy, now you have your previous answer, perhaps now you will have the grace and decency to answer eddie's question?

Les... can you please show me this unambiguously clear and direct answer to my question that you claim eddie has given...?


I'm still not sure what the answer is...!?

It's called "Tommitus" - you get this ringing in your ear and you can't hear anything else.