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The "Bad Is Black" Effect
In 1994 Time magazine ran a controversial cover photo of O.J. Simpson’s mugshot that, to some readers, seemed to have been intentionally altered to make Simpson’s skin look darker than normal. Accompanied by the headline “An American Tragedy,” Time was criticized for manipulating Simpson’s appearance to make him seem menacing, and therefore more likely to be guilty of his accused crimes. People were so upset by the image that James Gaine, then the magazine’s managing editor, issued a public apology.
Recent research suggests that people do have a proclivity to perceive someone with darker skin as more likely to have committed an immoral act, regardless of the person’s race. Dubbing this tendency the “bad is black” effect, professor Adam Alter of New York University, along with three of his colleagues, conducted six studies showing a link between skin tone and perceptions of whether a person committed a criminal act.
In two initial studies, the researchers specifically looked at whether the media tends to run darker photographs of celebrities and politicians when writing about their transgressions. In one study, they created a database of online news articles about a set of highly popular White and Black celebrities, of both genders, during the time period 2011 through 2013. Trained research assistants coded a sample of the articles to determine whether the written content of each article was mostly negative, neutral, or positive. In addition, research assistants also coded the skin tone of the photograph accompanying each article on a scale ranging from dark to light. Since photographs can differ in a number of other important ways, the assistants also coded how well the photograph had been technically executed, for example, how fuzzy or clear the image appeared. In addition, they coded the overall quality of the celebrity’s physical appearance in the photo, such as how well-dressed and put-together they seemed. After statistically controlling for the ratings of quality of the image, the researchers discovered a relationship between the written content of an article and the skin tone in the accompanying photograph: Articles containing negative content were more likely to appear alongside darker colored photographs.
In another study, the researchers replicated these with a set of news articles about politicians. After compiling a list of Black and White members of Congress and Cabinet members from 1997 through 2014, research assistants similarly coded the written content of the articles as well as the accompanying photographs. Once again, after controlling for ratings of quality and appearance of the photograph, negative articles were more likely to be run alongside darker colored images. This was true regardless of the politician’s race or gender. Why would the media tend to choose darker photographs when writing about negative behavior? The answer may lie in a pervasive belief that darkness and badness tend to go together.
The researchers demonstrated this psychological link between darkness and badness by running several experiments where participants were asked to choose between headshots to identify a perpetrator. Online participants first examined two different grainy video surveillance images, alongside a brief sentence describing what the man in each image was doing either before or after the image was taken. For one image, they were told that the man had committed a virtuous act, such as risking his life to save someone, or establishing a charity for children. For the other image, they were told the man had committed an immoral act such as murder or abuse. After viewing each image and description, participants were shown two headshots of different men. One headshot had been artificially darkened and the other artificially lightened. Participants indicated which of the headshots represented the man who appeared in each surveillance image on a scale ranging from 1 (definitely Person A) to 6 (definitely Person B).
In addition to choosing between headshots, participants were asked to indicate the “color of the soul” of each man in the surveillance images. (“Soul color” could act as a metaphorical representation of how closely participants associate visual color with badness, apart from either skin tone or race.) Using a color spectrum ranging from black to white, participants clicked on the color shade that seemed to represent the color of the man’s soul who had committed the moral act as well as the color of the man’s soul who had committed the immoral act. Finally, the researchers measured participants’ racial attitudes through a separate survey. Participants were asked how warmly they felt towards White Americans as well as towards various dark skinned minorities, such as African Americans and Muslim Americans.
The researchers found that participants who held more negative attitudes towards darker skinned minorities, such as African Americans, were more likely to choose the darker photograph when asked who committed the immoral act. This finding in itself is perhaps unsurprising. A more startling pattern emerged when the researchers analyzed people’s headshot choices based on what “color” they thought the men’s souls were. Even after statistically controlling for participants’ racial attitudes, the researchers found that participants who thought the man who committed the immoral act had a darker colored soul were also more likely to think he had darker colored skin. In other words, regardless of race, dark skin was associated with evil in the minds of people who saw a link between darkness and badness.
Although psychologists have known for a long time that people associate dark skin with negative personality traits, this research shows that the reverse is also true: when we hear about an evil act, we are more likely to believe it was done by someone with darker skin. This “bad is black” effect may have its roots in our deep-seated human tendency to associate darkness with wickedness. Across time and cultures, we tend to portray villains as more likely to be active during nighttime and to don black clothing. Similarly, our heroes are often associated with daytime and lighter colors. These mental associations between color and morality may negatively bias us against people with darker skin tones. If this is true, it has far-reaching implications for our justice system. For example, eye witnesses to crimes may be more likely to falsely identify suspects who possess darker skin.
Overall, the “bad is black” effect only underscores the importance of finding ways to combat the various ways that our inherent biases can influence perceptions of guilt and innocence. Understanding the extent of these biases, as well as what may be causing them, represents an important first step.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-bad-is-black-effect/
Recent research suggests that people do have a proclivity to perceive someone with darker skin as more likely to have committed an immoral act, regardless of the person’s race. Dubbing this tendency the “bad is black” effect, professor Adam Alter of New York University, along with three of his colleagues, conducted six studies showing a link between skin tone and perceptions of whether a person committed a criminal act.
In two initial studies, the researchers specifically looked at whether the media tends to run darker photographs of celebrities and politicians when writing about their transgressions. In one study, they created a database of online news articles about a set of highly popular White and Black celebrities, of both genders, during the time period 2011 through 2013. Trained research assistants coded a sample of the articles to determine whether the written content of each article was mostly negative, neutral, or positive. In addition, research assistants also coded the skin tone of the photograph accompanying each article on a scale ranging from dark to light. Since photographs can differ in a number of other important ways, the assistants also coded how well the photograph had been technically executed, for example, how fuzzy or clear the image appeared. In addition, they coded the overall quality of the celebrity’s physical appearance in the photo, such as how well-dressed and put-together they seemed. After statistically controlling for the ratings of quality of the image, the researchers discovered a relationship between the written content of an article and the skin tone in the accompanying photograph: Articles containing negative content were more likely to appear alongside darker colored photographs.
In another study, the researchers replicated these with a set of news articles about politicians. After compiling a list of Black and White members of Congress and Cabinet members from 1997 through 2014, research assistants similarly coded the written content of the articles as well as the accompanying photographs. Once again, after controlling for ratings of quality and appearance of the photograph, negative articles were more likely to be run alongside darker colored images. This was true regardless of the politician’s race or gender. Why would the media tend to choose darker photographs when writing about negative behavior? The answer may lie in a pervasive belief that darkness and badness tend to go together.
The researchers demonstrated this psychological link between darkness and badness by running several experiments where participants were asked to choose between headshots to identify a perpetrator. Online participants first examined two different grainy video surveillance images, alongside a brief sentence describing what the man in each image was doing either before or after the image was taken. For one image, they were told that the man had committed a virtuous act, such as risking his life to save someone, or establishing a charity for children. For the other image, they were told the man had committed an immoral act such as murder or abuse. After viewing each image and description, participants were shown two headshots of different men. One headshot had been artificially darkened and the other artificially lightened. Participants indicated which of the headshots represented the man who appeared in each surveillance image on a scale ranging from 1 (definitely Person A) to 6 (definitely Person B).
In addition to choosing between headshots, participants were asked to indicate the “color of the soul” of each man in the surveillance images. (“Soul color” could act as a metaphorical representation of how closely participants associate visual color with badness, apart from either skin tone or race.) Using a color spectrum ranging from black to white, participants clicked on the color shade that seemed to represent the color of the man’s soul who had committed the moral act as well as the color of the man’s soul who had committed the immoral act. Finally, the researchers measured participants’ racial attitudes through a separate survey. Participants were asked how warmly they felt towards White Americans as well as towards various dark skinned minorities, such as African Americans and Muslim Americans.
The researchers found that participants who held more negative attitudes towards darker skinned minorities, such as African Americans, were more likely to choose the darker photograph when asked who committed the immoral act. This finding in itself is perhaps unsurprising. A more startling pattern emerged when the researchers analyzed people’s headshot choices based on what “color” they thought the men’s souls were. Even after statistically controlling for participants’ racial attitudes, the researchers found that participants who thought the man who committed the immoral act had a darker colored soul were also more likely to think he had darker colored skin. In other words, regardless of race, dark skin was associated with evil in the minds of people who saw a link between darkness and badness.
Although psychologists have known for a long time that people associate dark skin with negative personality traits, this research shows that the reverse is also true: when we hear about an evil act, we are more likely to believe it was done by someone with darker skin. This “bad is black” effect may have its roots in our deep-seated human tendency to associate darkness with wickedness. Across time and cultures, we tend to portray villains as more likely to be active during nighttime and to don black clothing. Similarly, our heroes are often associated with daytime and lighter colors. These mental associations between color and morality may negatively bias us against people with darker skin tones. If this is true, it has far-reaching implications for our justice system. For example, eye witnesses to crimes may be more likely to falsely identify suspects who possess darker skin.
Overall, the “bad is black” effect only underscores the importance of finding ways to combat the various ways that our inherent biases can influence perceptions of guilt and innocence. Understanding the extent of these biases, as well as what may be causing them, represents an important first step.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-bad-is-black-effect/
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It's really saddens me, that we have this impulse to things like this. Did you see that video of the children who were asked to rate dolls according to their colour? It was heartbreaking. All the black girls thought the white doll was "prettiest".
I'll have to find it later.
I don't know why this seems to be drummed into some people's brains like this. I can assure you though, it must either start at home or perhaps it's a generational thing as my daughter will often choose darker dolls - no idea why except that she absolutely loves and adores my Indian friend Shatl and her daughter....perhaps that makes a difference to her personal perception of skin colour? She associates the darker skin with beauty and someone she adores..? I dont know.
I'll have to find it later.
I don't know why this seems to be drummed into some people's brains like this. I can assure you though, it must either start at home or perhaps it's a generational thing as my daughter will often choose darker dolls - no idea why except that she absolutely loves and adores my Indian friend Shatl and her daughter....perhaps that makes a difference to her personal perception of skin colour? She associates the darker skin with beauty and someone she adores..? I dont know.
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I find it hard to believe that people still, in this day and age associate dark with bad light with good.
I think it has to come from the home, because I'm sure young children don't think this way.....it's a learned behaviour.
When I grew up there were very few dark skinned people around, mu favourite doll was Nancy, a black doll, I loved her and her difference to the other blue eyed blonde haired dolls made her special.
I don't really understand the way some people judge colour over the person.
I think it has to come from the home, because I'm sure young children don't think this way.....it's a learned behaviour.
When I grew up there were very few dark skinned people around, mu favourite doll was Nancy, a black doll, I loved her and her difference to the other blue eyed blonde haired dolls made her special.
I don't really understand the way some people judge colour over the person.
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@ Major
There you have the problem faced today by such poor reasoning. So based on watching crimes, where the vast majority are committed by white people in this country. This is ignored by those who hold poor racial views and they only center on those committed by for example Blacks or Asians.
That proves what the article is saying, how those clearly lacking an understanding and led by negative hateful emotions is in regards to the problems faced today where people have a poor negative bias.
There you have the problem faced today by such poor reasoning. So based on watching crimes, where the vast majority are committed by white people in this country. This is ignored by those who hold poor racial views and they only center on those committed by for example Blacks or Asians.
That proves what the article is saying, how those clearly lacking an understanding and led by negative hateful emotions is in regards to the problems faced today where people have a poor negative bias.
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What is more shocking is these winners of the Victorian Cross
How dare they fight and many give their lives to this country, in order that major should have the very freedom he has never earned..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Victoria_Cross_recipients_by_nationality
How dare they fight and many give their lives to this country, in order that major should have the very freedom he has never earned..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Victoria_Cross_recipients_by_nationality
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Then we have the foreign Polish at the Battle of Britain
How dare they fly the British made Hawker Hurricane and Spitfires having the highest ratios of enemy aircraft destroyed out of all the RAF squadrons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._303_Polish_Fighter_Squadron
Clearly this must be he Multiculturalism failure that Major is talking about?
How dare they fly the British made Hawker Hurricane and Spitfires having the highest ratios of enemy aircraft destroyed out of all the RAF squadrons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._303_Polish_Fighter_Squadron
Clearly this must be he Multiculturalism failure that Major is talking about?
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I understand why people associate dark with bad, and light with good. I'm just don't know why that extends to the colour of skin.
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Raggamuffin wrote:I understand why people associate dark with bad, and light with good. I'm just don't know why that extends to the colour of skin.
Interestingly, you might have inadvertently hit upon a connection.
As why do people associate dark with bad and light with good?
Mythology?
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Darkness makes it hard to use our most relied upon sense, sight, and thus makes us afraid on a subconscious level. Some obviously never get over that childish fear.
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Ben Reilly wrote:Darkness makes it hard to use our most relied upon sense, sight, and thus makes us afraid on a subconscious level. Some obviously never get over that childish fear.
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You may be onto something there, based around an irrational fear of the dark
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It's all a bit to deep for me.
I'm not sure how childhood fears of the dark can translate to fearing a skin colour.
Also...odd how so many light skinned people spend half their lives and a considerable amount of money to look dark skinned.
I'm not sure how childhood fears of the dark can translate to fearing a skin colour.
Also...odd how so many light skinned people spend half their lives and a considerable amount of money to look dark skinned.
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Thorin wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I understand why people associate dark with bad, and light with good. I'm just don't know why that extends to the colour of skin.
Interestingly, you might have inadvertently hit upon a connection.
As why do people associate dark with bad and light with good?
Mythology?
Depressed people feel that everything is dark - ie, negative. People get SAD in the winter partly because of a lack of natural light. People look for a light at the end of the tunnel. Darkness can by a physical thing or a psychological thing.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Thorin wrote:
Interestingly, you might have inadvertently hit upon a connection.
As why do people associate dark with bad and light with good?
Mythology?
Depressed people feel that everything is dark - ie, negative. People get SAD in the winter partly because of a lack of natural light. People look for a light at the end of the tunnel. Darkness can by a physical thing or a psychological thing.
Interesting, so its more about then longer lighter warmer days. So if the shorter days were hotter, would these same people feel as depressed? Is it more to do with the temperature than it is light or darkness? As the dark does not bother people in the Summertime. So I am not sure why then darkness would be associated with bad and light good?
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And the sunnier the climate the darker the skin generally.
Confusing.
Confusing.
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Thorin wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Depressed people feel that everything is dark - ie, negative. People get SAD in the winter partly because of a lack of natural light. People look for a light at the end of the tunnel. Darkness can by a physical thing or a psychological thing.
Interesting, so its more about then longer lighter warmer days. So if the shorter days were hotter, would these same people feel as depressed? Is it more to do with the temperature than it is light or darkness? As the dark does not bother people in the Summertime. So I am not sure why then darkness would be associated with bad and light good?
People can be depressed in the summer, and everything will still seem dark to them. People get in "black" moods, or maybe things look "black" for someone. I don't think it's conditioning, I think that the description came after the feeling.
Re winter SAD, it's thought to be the lack of light during the day which is the problem - possibly leading to low levels of serotonin. Perhaps the low temperatures play a part too.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Thorin wrote:
Interesting, so its more about then longer lighter warmer days. So if the shorter days were hotter, would these same people feel as depressed? Is it more to do with the temperature than it is light or darkness? As the dark does not bother people in the Summertime. So I am not sure why then darkness would be associated with bad and light good?
People can be depressed in the summer, and everything will still seem dark to them. People get in "black" moods, or maybe things look "black" for someone. I don't think it's conditioning, I think that the description came after the feeling.
Re winter SAD, it's thought to be the lack of light during the day which is the problem - possibly leading to low levels of serotonin. Perhaps the low temperatures play a part too.
If people are depressed in the summertime, it will not be the longer darker colder nights aspect, will it Rags?
There is another interesting association and how something has had black attached to, moods.
Where and how did such an association come from?
I do think you have a bases from where it can derive from in people seeing dark as an association to bad, but like you say why would it have an association to skin?
Again I love a clear dark night, there is something very tranquil looking up into the sky at night, or even being in a dark rooming just thinking and being at peace.
Maybe there is also an element around death and the darkness that comes, where this can and does develop a fear? Hence why people turn to religion as its based around light being good and lightness claimed to be seen in near death experiences?
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Syl wrote:And the sunnier the climate the darker the skin generally.
Confusing.
Which is a great point, because people want to look darker.
So looks wise, people actually go out of their way to look dark. So clearly how media stories are played out on crimes and how people talk about them, is more how people come to wrongly associate things darker with bad
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Thorin wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
People can be depressed in the summer, and everything will still seem dark to them. People get in "black" moods, or maybe things look "black" for someone. I don't think it's conditioning, I think that the description came after the feeling.
Re winter SAD, it's thought to be the lack of light during the day which is the problem - possibly leading to low levels of serotonin. Perhaps the low temperatures play a part too.
If people are depressed in the summertime, it will not be the longer darker colder nights aspect, will it Rags?
There is another interesting association and how something has had black attached to, moods.
Where and how did such an association come from?
I do think you have a bases from where it can derive from in people seeing dark as an association to bad, but like you say why would it have an association to skin?
Again I love a clear dark night, there is something very tranquil looking up into the sky at night, or even being in a dark rooming just thinking and being at peace.
Maybe there is also an element around death and the darkness that comes, where this can and does develop a fear? Hence why people turn to religion as its based around light being good and lightness claimed to be seen in near death experiences?
SAD is a specific thing, and is only one trigger for depression. There are many others which are not dependent on the season. However, some people might find the darkness peaceful, and others find it depressing or even frightening.
I think that moods can be "black" because that's how they seem - everything seems dark rather than light.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Thorin wrote:
If people are depressed in the summertime, it will not be the longer darker colder nights aspect, will it Rags?
There is another interesting association and how something has had black attached to, moods.
Where and how did such an association come from?
I do think you have a bases from where it can derive from in people seeing dark as an association to bad, but like you say why would it have an association to skin?
Again I love a clear dark night, there is something very tranquil looking up into the sky at night, or even being in a dark rooming just thinking and being at peace.
Maybe there is also an element around death and the darkness that comes, where this can and does develop a fear? Hence why people turn to religion as its based around light being good and lightness claimed to be seen in near death experiences?
SAD is a specific thing, and is only one trigger for depression. There are many others which are not dependent on the season. However, some people might find the darkness peaceful, and others find it depressing or even frightening.
I think that moods can be "black" because that's how they seem - everything seems dark rather than light.
Some interesting points
I have just been reading this which is also interesting
The Color of Sin--Why the Good Guys Wear White
Ancient fears of filth and contagion may explain why we think of morality in black and white
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-color-of-sin/
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The word 'black' is used flippantly sometimes.
Black sheep of the family, black moods, black outlook.......it's just a word though.
I don't see how anyone in todays world can let the word black affect the way they judge other human beings.
I think it's an excuse.
How come negative words like whitewash..to cover up, white feather.. denotes cowardice, white elephant..useless, don't put negativity in the minds re white skinned people then?
Black sheep of the family, black moods, black outlook.......it's just a word though.
I don't see how anyone in todays world can let the word black affect the way they judge other human beings.
I think it's an excuse.
How come negative words like whitewash..to cover up, white feather.. denotes cowardice, white elephant..useless, don't put negativity in the minds re white skinned people then?
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Syl wrote:The word 'black' is used flippantly sometimes.
Black sheep of the family, black moods, black outlook.......it's just a word though.
I don't see how anyone in todays world can let the word black affect the way they judge other human beings.
I think it's an excuse.
How come negative words like whitewash..to cover up, white feather.. denotes cowardice, white elephant..useless, don't put negativity in the minds re white skinned people then?
Some very interesting points
It would be good to research the origins of how these terms came to be formed Syl
Again it labels at the root cause of problems and they stem from how we perceive things black and white and not in multicolour. To change this perception, I think we need to remove the colour labels associated with this
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Thorin wrote:Syl wrote:The word 'black' is used flippantly sometimes.
Black sheep of the family, black moods, black outlook.......it's just a word though.
I don't see how anyone in todays world can let the word black affect the way they judge other human beings.
I think it's an excuse.
How come negative words like whitewash..to cover up, white feather.. denotes cowardice, white elephant..useless, don't put negativity in the minds re white skinned people then?
Some very interesting points
It would be good to research the origins of how these terms came to be formed Syl
Again it labels at the root cause of problems and they stem from how we perceive things black and white and not in multicolour. To change this perception, I think we need to remove the colour labels associated with this
I think people have tried Thor, I have read a few times phrases like Black sheep shouldn't be used because of it's negativity....actually I never hear it now anyway.
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Are we also to ban words which have negative connotations about white people then?
People will always associate certain colours with certain moods or situations. That shouldn't translate into being affected by the colour of someone's skin, and I think it probably isn't, but the article touched upon such a theory.
People will always associate certain colours with certain moods or situations. That shouldn't translate into being affected by the colour of someone's skin, and I think it probably isn't, but the article touched upon such a theory.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Are we also to ban words which have negative connotations about white people then?
People will always associate certain colours with certain moods or situations. That shouldn't translate into being affected by the colour of someone's skin, and I think it probably isn't, but the article touched upon such a theory.
Who said to ban words?
For example if you are having moods, why does it require dark in front of this to signify someone is down?
There are plenty of other words to describe this. Like for example gloomy, slump, stupor etc
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Thorin wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:Are we also to ban words which have negative connotations about white people then?
People will always associate certain colours with certain moods or situations. That shouldn'
It translate into being affected by the colour of someone's skin, and I think it probably isn't, but the article touched upon such a theory.
Who said to ban words?
For example if you are having moods, why does it require dark in front of this to signify someone is down?
There are plenty of other words to describe this. Like for example gloomy, slump, stupor etc
I think that removing words to avoid associations is the same as banning them.
Those words don't really describe the kind of darkness that some people experience. What about the phrase "Dark night of the soul"? I don't think that "Gloomy day of the soul" would work very well.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Thorin wrote:
Who said to ban words?
For example if you are having moods, why does it require dark in front of this to signify someone is down?
There are plenty of other words to describe this. Like for example gloomy, slump, stupor etc
I think that removing words to avoid associations is the same as banning them.
Those words don't really describe the kind of darkness that some people experience. What about the phrase "Dark night of the soul"? I don't think that "Gloomy day of the soul" would work very well.
No its not, its just adaption. These words to describe and there are others that describe such a mood
Again there is no need to label things via black and white, we live in world of colour
Gloomy is very much in a low mood
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Thorin wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
I think that removing words to avoid associations is the same as banning them.
Those words don't really describe the kind of darkness that some people experience. What about the phrase "Dark night of the soul"? I don't think that "Gloomy day of the soul" would work very well.
No its not, its just adaption. These words to describe and there are others that describe such a mood
Again there is no need to label things via black and white, we live in world of colour
Gloomy is very much in a low mood
I'm not just talking about low moods though.
How about the song "Paint it black"? It wouldn't work with different lyrics.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Thorin wrote:
No its not, its just adaption. These words to describe and there are others that describe such a mood
Again there is no need to label things via black and white, we live in world of colour
Gloomy is very much in a low mood
I'm not just talking about low moods though.
How about the song "Paint it black"? It wouldn't work with different lyrics.
Who is talking about songs?
You do realise people have and do change how they word things.
Its constantly happened in our language for centuries
Sadly some people are so scared of change
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Whatever ...
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Raggamuffin wrote:Whatever ...
Why are you so constantly rude in debates when people disagree with you Rags?
Seriously.
Its Saturday, and the weekend, be happy
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Major wrote:Thorin wrote:
Why are you so constantly rude in debates when people disagree with you Rags?
Seriously.
Its Saturday, and the weekend, be happy
Pot calling the kettle BLACK, this is Thorin.
I am very happy thanks Major and I am not rude to you on debates since I have been back
You just do not like my reasoning, when it exposes your poor views
Now anything else, or are you looking to bitch some more at me?
If you are, then you are going to be sorely disappointed
As I shall leave you stew and sulk
Enjoy
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Re: The "Bad Is Black" Effect
This will damn near break your heart
It's not the only experiment of its kind.
It's not the only experiment of its kind.
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Re: The "Bad Is Black" Effect
eddie wrote:This will damn near break your heart
It's not the only experiment of its kind.
It always pains me to watch that Eddie
It breaks my heart see it
Something to restore that faith in humanity is needed
Hope you do not mind
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Re: The "Bad Is Black" Effect
Major wrote:As people go through life and LEARN about it by listening and seeing they then make up their own minds on things so it is not a perception but knowledge.
If you are white and read, see masses of blacks, non whites doing things they should not or different to your people then you become against them as this is predominantly a white country, well, at the moment.
The reverse happens in a predominantly black country..
Do you not realise people of any race/colour do not want their country to be forcibly altered by foreigners, those who do are traitors IMHO.
The millions who come here, wanna come here cannot offer us anything really worthwhile we do not already have, they only TAKE FROM US, they should stay where they are and improve their own lot as we have by blood, sweat, tears and death.
Multiculturalism does NOT work and NEVER will, just look at the USA as a example.
Why will it never work, people do not want it.
A problem is so many people have lived a cocooned/sheltered life, lack worldwide, even local experiences of their own country.
I have told you many times black/ non whites live different to us in so many ways, you only have to tour Coventry, Brum, Luton, Dewsbury, Barnsley and loads and loads mores and observe.
Please debate as per your sagacious leaders edict, not insult and attack.
You are not only a racist and a tool of a fool, fake_"major"/false soldier Stormee...
But also a lying piece of crap, to boot...
Having grown up with darker skinned relatives and friends, I can seasily point out here that your claimed experiences and false observations are nothing more than recycled neo-nazi and white supremacist propaganda.
You always start with a set agenda -- in this case that most crimes are committed by "blacks", and that "whites" are naturally superior and always law-abiding..
And then you make up your fallacious fairytales to support your rancid stupidity...
You odious and despicable, traitorous and hatemongering, little turd..
Multiculturalism can and does work, when given a chance, fuckbrain -- Australia, NZ, Canada (and even much of the US, still) is living proof of that simple truth..
The fact that you have never travelled to any of these places shines through in the garbage you post.
Now, continue on with you lies fake_major, false soldier...
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Re: The "Bad Is Black" Effect
Major wrote:As people go through life and LEARN about it by listening and seeing they then make up their own minds on things so it is not a perception but knowledge.
If you are white and read, see masses of blacks, non whites doing things they should not or different to your people then you become against them as this is predominantly a white country, well, at the moment.
The reverse happens in a predominantly black country..
Do you not realise people of any race/colour do not want their country to be forcibly altered by foreigners, those who do are traitors IMHO.
The millions who come here, wanna come here cannot offer us anything really worthwhile we do not already have, they only TAKE FROM US, they should stay where they are and improve their own lot as we have by blood, sweat, tears and death.
Multiculturalism does NOT work and NEVER will, just look at the USA as a example.
Why will it never work, people do not want it.
A problem is so many people have lived a cocooned/sheltered life, lack worldwide, even local experiences of their own country.
I have told you many times black/ non whites live different to us in so many ways, you only have to tour Coventry, Brum, Luton, Dewsbury, Barnsley and loads and loads mores and observe.
Please debate as per your sagacious leaders edict, not insult and attack.
It works down here
your just a cowardly geranium that's all
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Re: The "Bad Is Black" Effect
I gather that colourism happens in the same race.
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eddie wrote:This will damn near break your heart
It's not the only experiment of its kind.
I wish I hadn't watched that, it was really upsetting.
Those children had somehow been conditioned to think black was bad...yet the black kids identified with the black doll, so inwardly they think they are bad, unattractive, not as good etc .
Am I fooling myself into thinking the outcome would be different if the experiment was done in the UK?
All I know is over half a century ago I loved my black doll.......if anyone had asked me back then if she was bad or not pretty I would have thought they were blind.
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Re: The "Bad Is Black" Effect
Thorin wrote:
It always pains me to watch that Eddie
It breaks my heart see it
Something to restore that faith in humanity is needed
Hope you do not mind
Well thanks for that Thor.
I needed a full packet of tissues to see me through that little compilation.
Then I clicked on the following link about the reactions when soldiers came back home and surprised their loved ones......further
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Re: The "Bad Is Black" Effect
Syl wrote:Thorin wrote:
It always pains me to watch that Eddie
It breaks my heart see it
Something to restore that faith in humanity is needed
Hope you do not mind
Well thanks for that Thor.
I needed a full packet of tissues to see me through that little compilation.
Then I clicked on the following link about the reactions when soldiers came back home and surprised their loved ones......further
Its good to cry Syl, it shows more than anything we are not afraid to expose our vulnerabilities to anyone. That we are not afraid to express our emotions. People always want to be like that and warm to people who are.
That is what you saw throughout those video's. A mixture of emotions that embrace happiness, comfort love for one another
I celebrate that and don't feel bad for loving to see how good people can be and how much will truly miss those we must love. It shows the true humanity found within us
Have a good day
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It was a lovely compilation....I cant single out any particular one that got to me...they all did. The man who freed the wild dog though, I had to watch that a couple of times.
And the man who held the person who was contemplating suicide...
I hope people who watch these heart touching videos will think on next time they see someone who could do with a helping hand.
Even if it's just to help an elderly person over the road (that one made me smile though, her little legs were moving so fast as he guided her to safety) They were all brilliant Thor...thanks. x
And the man who held the person who was contemplating suicide...
I hope people who watch these heart touching videos will think on next time they see someone who could do with a helping hand.
Even if it's just to help an elderly person over the road (that one made me smile though, her little legs were moving so fast as he guided her to safety) They were all brilliant Thor...thanks. x
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Re: The "Bad Is Black" Effect
Syl wrote:It was a lovely compilation....I cant single out any particular one that got to me...they all did. The man who freed the wild dog though, I had to watch that a couple of times.
And the man who held the person who was contemplating suicide...
I hope people who watch these heart touching videos will think on next time they see someone who could do with a helping hand.
Even if it's just to help an elderly person over the road (that one made me smile though, her little legs were moving so fast as he guided her to safety) They were all brilliant Thor...thanks. x
You are welcome Syl.....x
Only the truly strong, can bare fourth their vulnerabilities, as they are truly honest
People wrongly assume to show are emotions makes people weak.
In fact it shows the opposite
Strength
People need to look at their lives and try to do more, I hope it inspires others
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