President Donald Trump

by Independent Thoughts Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:06 pm

First topic message reminder :

The United States' 45th President is the first President to have never served public office. We finally have a non-politician in the Oval Office, guys! Who's excited? Smile

Liberals, Conservatives, and (most importantly!) Independents can rejoice and look forward to a much better and positive future.

Not only did we get a President that understands business, but we got the hottest, ever, First Lady in the deal, as well. I never would have ever imagined myself using the words "hottie" and "First Lady" in the same sentence, but... there it is!

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He's sworn in, so quit the wishful thinking and crying, Liberals. Get with the program and become part of the solution.

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:20 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Thorin wrote:

So he won, dos that mean people cannot stand up for themselves, when they fear that he will wreck the nation?
You forget many republicans were the same when Obama won twice.
Its never wrong for people to bring about a vote of no confidence, and the man is a conman, who has openly admitted to making false claims in his campaign speeches
Obama was given the chance (twice) let Trump have his chance . Only fair right ?

Who exactly is stopping him having his chance?

All people are doing is vocally protesting

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:22 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

Agree I hope he is the best President ever and all the haters will have to admit they were wrong . He needs a chance .

Okay, well on his first day he made it harder for people to pay off their mortgages and set the stage for Congress to deprive 18 million American citizens of health insurance. What do you think?

I haven't seen that news so I can't comment - but every political party have some things we like and dislike .

I think if you really believe you can get him impeached then go ahead but remember that those millions that voted will be very upset and then you will have a continuous campaign against every president because both sides will want their own way every time .

by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:22 am

Still giving him a chance? How about this? The CIA is currently reviewing intercepts of conversations his campaign had with Russian government officials! But he could be the greatest president ever, right?

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:23 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

Agree I hope he is the best President ever and all the haters will have to admit they were wrong . He needs a chance .

Okay, well on his first day he made it harder for people to pay off their mortgages and set the stage for Congress to deprive 18 million American citizens of health insurance. What do you think?

Do you have more information about that - from a reliable source?

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:24 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

Okay, well on his first day he made it harder for people to pay off their mortgages and set the stage for Congress to deprive 18 million American citizens of health insurance. What do you think?

I haven't seen that news so I can't comment - but every political party have some things we like and dislike .

I think if you really believe you can get him impeached then go ahead but remember that those millions that voted will be very upset and then you will have a continuous campaign against every president because both sides will want their own way every time .

Then there is something wrong with those voters, if they get upset with a President being impeached, because he will have committed a crime.

by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:24 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

Agree I hope he is the best President ever and all the haters will have to admit they were wrong . He needs a chance .

Okay, well on his first day he made it harder for people to pay off their mortgages and set the stage for Congress to deprive 18 million American citizens of health insurance. What do you think?

I haven't seen that news so I can't comment - but every political party have some things we like and dislike .

I think if you really believe you can get him impeached then go ahead but remember that those millions that voted will be very upset and then you will have a continuous campaign against every president because both sides will want their own way every time .

Read a motherfucking paper before pissing off knowledgeable people with your stupidity!

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:25 am

Thorin wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Obama was given the chance (twice) let Trump have his chance . Only fair right ?

Who exactly is stopping him having his chance?

All people are doing is vocally protesting

What are they protesting about ?

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:26 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Thorin wrote:

Who exactly is stopping him having his chance?

All people are doing is vocally protesting

What are they protesting about ?

How is that stopping him being President?

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:26 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

I haven't seen that news so I can't comment - but every political party have some things we like and dislike .

I think if you really believe you can get him impeached then go ahead but remember that those millions that voted will be very upset and then you will have a continuous campaign against every president because both sides will want their own way every time .

Read a motherfucking paper before pissing off knowledgeable people with your stupidity!

Well that's polite thanks for that Ben . If you were walking in my shoes right now you wouldn't want me ranting like that at you .

by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:30 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

Agree I hope he is the best President ever and all the haters will have to admit they were wrong . He needs a chance .

Okay, well on his first day he made it harder for people to pay off their mortgages and set the stage for Congress to deprive 18 million American citizens of health insurance. What do you think?

Do you have more information about that - from a reliable source?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-obamacare-explained-20170121-story.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/01/21/what-does-trumps-first-executive-order-mean-your-mortgage/96881572/

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:31 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

Read a motherfucking paper before pissing off knowledgeable people with your stupidity!

Well that's polite thanks for that Ben . If you were walking in my shoes right now you wouldn't want me ranting like that at you .

You do understand Dibs, that he has to live through 4 years of Trump, and we don't
Hence why its a sensitive subject for Ben
Though there was no need for him to swear and insult you

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:35 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Do you have more information about that - from a reliable source?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-obamacare-explained-20170121-story.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/01/21/what-does-trumps-first-executive-order-mean-your-mortgage/96881572/

Thank you. I will admit that I can't really follow your healthcare system, so I'd need to find out more.

by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:35 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

I haven't seen that news so I can't comment - but every political party have some things we like and dislike .

I think if you really believe you can get him impeached then go ahead but remember that those millions that voted will be very upset and then you will have a continuous campaign against every president because both sides will want their own way every time .

Read a motherfucking paper before pissing off knowledgeable people with your stupidity!

Well that's polite thanks for that Ben . If you were walking in my shoes right now you wouldn't want me ranting like that at you .

I'm sorry, it's 230 in the morning here and I just want to settle down and go to sleep. I should have said that if you are going to weigh in on this, you should at least be informed about it first.

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:38 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

Well that's polite thanks for that Ben . If you were walking in my shoes right now you wouldn't want me ranting like that at you .

I'm sorry, it's 230 in the morning here and I just want to settle down and go to sleep. I should have said that if you are going to weigh in on this, you should at least be informed about it first.

You need to relax..

Start with something soothing, think of good thoughts and happy times, allowing yourself to switch off

Once again for you

by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:40 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Do you have more information about that - from a reliable source?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-obamacare-explained-20170121-story.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/01/21/what-does-trumps-first-executive-order-mean-your-mortgage/96881572/

Thank you. I will admit that I can't really follow your healthcare system, so I'd need to find out more.

You are welcome, and thanks for allowing, unlike some, that I actually do know what I'm talking about Smile

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:47 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Thank you. I will admit that I can't really follow your healthcare system, so I'd need to find out more.

You are welcome, and thanks for allowing, unlike some, that I actually do know what I'm talking about

Re mortgages, it seems that he wants to reverse the cut to reduce FHA insurance premiums. He's done that because of fears that the FHA would need another bailout from the Treasury.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-affordable-housing-low-income-mortgage-ben-carson-a7538991.html

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:47 am

Ben Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:

Well that's polite thanks for that Ben . If you were walking in my shoes right now you wouldn't want me ranting like that at you .

I'm sorry, it's 230 in the morning here and I just want to settle down and go to sleep. I should have said that if you are going to weigh in on this, you should at least be informed about it first.

That's okay thanks .

I've just read about it .

by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:48 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Ben Reilly wrote:

You are welcome, and thanks for allowing, unlike some, that I actually do know what I'm talking about

Re mortgages, it seems that he wants to reverse the cut to reduce FHA insurance premiums. He's done that because of fears that the FHA would need another bailout from the Treasury.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-affordable-housing-low-income-mortgage-ben-carson-a7538991.html

yes that's what i read .

by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:50 am

Raggamuffin, start with this if you want to learn more about the US health care system. It's about 50 years old :

by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:59 am

Ben Reilly wrote:Raggamuffin, start with this if you want to learn more about the US health care system. It's about 50 years old :

Thank you Ben. I'll have a look at it.

Have there ever been any thoughts in the US about having a national health service like we do in the UK? People complain about it, but people don't generally have to worry about the cost of healthcare here.

by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:06 am

Many Americans, mainly on the left, dream of the day when we'll have something like the NHS. The Republicans will never allow that to happen, though.

by Ben Reilly Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:11 am

Just look at the show Breaking Bad. A guy turns to selling illegal drugs to pay for his cancer treatment. Only in America does that premise make sense.

by veya_victaous Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:50 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Ben if you think you can change the result go ahead but good luck with it - I really don't see any point in all this complaining .

I'd really like to see what would happen if the result is changed . I think you may have a civil war .

Do you want to read something Funny Ironic and completely Disagreeing with you Cool

If from Now President Trump back in 2012 Wink

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
— Donald J. Путин Америки(@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!
— Donald J. Путин Америки(@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before.
— Donald J. Путин Америки(@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

In the deleted tweets, he said, “The phoney (sic) electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation,” and he attacked Mr Obama’s re-election, and called for a revolution.

“He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!”

Four years later, he would sing the praises of the “phony” system, after he lost the popular vote but found himself in the oval office.

In 2012, however, Mr Trump had a public demonstration in his sights.

We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!
— Donald J. Путин Америки(@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.
— Donald J. Путин Америки(@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/donald-trump-mocks-protesters-four-years-after-unsuccessfully-calling-for-protests-against-barack-obama/news-story/e114739c33fabb80fd34fef91ce238fa

Trump Literally TRIED to do it against Obama Cool

But failed to Achieve what is 'organically' forming in opposition to him.
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