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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:25 am

Breaking News:  The briefing given to minority-president elect this week contained a two page memo about how the Russian government "compromised" pussy-grabber Trump on his trip to Moscow in 2013.  The disclosure to the press about the memo did not go into details about the compromise.  It is still unclear how the Russian government compromised Trump or what he is supposed to have done...or whether it has anything to do with his Slovakian wife. The FBI would not say if it was continuing the investigation.

The same two-page memo was provided to President Obama and senior leaders of the Senate and House.

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Post by veya_victaous Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:53 am

The classified information was presented in a two-page synopsis, alleging that there was an ongoing exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

Buzzfeed has published a 35-page dossier that lays out all of the allegations, including that the Russian regime “has been cultivating, supporting and assisting Trump for at least five years”.

The dossier, understood to be written by a former British intelligence agent, also claims that Mr Trump was involved in “perverted sexual acts” during a visit to Moscow.

The document concludes that Mr Trump’s “unorthodox behaviour in Russia” had provided authorities with “enough embarrassing material … to be able to blackmail him if they so wished”.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/russian-operatives-claim-to-have-compromising-personal-information-about-donald-trump/news-story/2ee7bd055aed5d21ee29e450964d7680

seems so very probable
A known sexual deviant who knows what he got up to in Moscow (besides the Kremlin of course which will also have the photos Razz Razz Razz )
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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:05 am

The intelligence sources have hinted that it is the type of information that one can be blackmailed over.  

Trump has a news conference tomorrow.  Let's see how candid he can be.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:39 am

Wouldn't it be wild if Melania was a Russian agent who was running Donald? She has been laying reaaal low.

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Post by 'Wolfie Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:59 am

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Wouldn't it be wild if Melania was a Russian agent who was running Donald?  She has been laying reaaal low.

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Ivana Trump is Czech born;   Melania is Slovakian...

The former Czechoslovakia was a key USSR satellite for nearly four decades..

Did Ivana "groom" the Dumpster for his taste in Eastern European/Soviet Bloc beauties, setting him up for Melania to swoop in after their divorce  ?

'Interesting times',  indeed..        Wink
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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:52 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
Wouldn't it be wild if Melania was a Russian agent who was running Donald?  She has been laying reaaal low.

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Ivana Trump is Czech born;  Melania is Slovakian...

The former Czechoslovakia was a key USSR satellite for nearly four decades..

Did Ivana "groom" the Dumpster for his taste in Eastern European/Soviet Bloc beauties, setting him up for Melania to swoop in after their divorce  ?

'Interesting times',  indeed..        Wink

That's why I'm thinking Melania.  The Ivana connection is interesting.  As the song says, How long has this been going on?  She was married to pussy-grabber from 1977 to 1991. Who goes back to the former Czechoslovakia for a second dip at a wife?  I'll have to look at a timeline for his capital infusions...and business failures. Might tell a story.

The big question, out of the blue, was always Trump's fondness for the Russians...why?  How very interesting.

Next question: what will they do to try to cover this up?  His press conference tomorrow looms large.

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:58 am

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t18454-veteran-spy-tells-fbi-russian-government-compromised-trump-and-could-blackmail-him-as-president

Either there's something to this, or the CIA is telling Trump to stop fucking with them...
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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:29 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:http://www.newsfixboard.com/t18454-veteran-spy-tells-fbi-russian-government-compromised-trump-and-could-blackmail-him-as-president

Either there's something to this, or the CIA is telling Trump to stop fucking with them...

No...the CIA wouldn't be that blatant as to bring open warfare.  Tho, I don't doubt they are enjoying the schadenfreude.  They wouldn't invent anything...they couldn't back up.

There is something to this.  Pussy-grabber's fondness for eastern European wives?  His perv tendencies?  His most obvious attempts to queer the election?  The election itself...lost by the greatest deficit ever, yet wins the EC??  It's obvious now that an invisible hand was in there.  Someone has "placed" him.

It's not just Trump's server, and his wives, that have all-too-frequently been connected to Russia. What do we know about Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner?  He comes out of nowhere.  What kind of a name is Kushner, anyway?  I know his father went to prison...convicted by none other than Chris Christy.  Shady past.  Could Jared be an agent helping his mother-in-law run Trump?  He seems to be a fixture in all important circles...yet he's a shadowy, background figure who has no qualifications (that are visible on the surface).

A lot of bizarre things have come out in this past year.  Two years ago I would have said this was complete fiction.  Right now, anything is possible.

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Post by 'Wolfie Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:29 pm

really the devil

A quick look shows Kushner as a German derivative of the Belorussian word for "furrier"...

http://www.ancestry.com.au/name-origin?surname=kushner

East Germany was under Russian control for 41 years..
Belarus is still a close ally to Russia.

So,  where did the Kushner family come from  ???            Trump a Russian operative? 3758365944
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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:13 pm

Trump aide, Kellyanne Conway, shows signs of cracking this morning on Good Morning America.  She could not say that Trump will accept the fact that Russia was behind the hacking.

So, in effect, Conway is confirming that Trump is still in denial.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:53 pm

7-minutes til pussy-grabber's press conference.  Tune in.  It's supposed to be about his conflicts of interest, but you can bet there will be questions about his love affair with the Ruskies.

Join in.  There must be someone over their covering it.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:43 pm

Well...there you have it.  Some 30-minutes of condensed tweets and then: exit stage left!  Pffftt...

Didn't answer a single question.  Just deny, deny, lie, deny...turns it over to a lawyer for eternal boredom.

I think that press conference proved what they are saying. Why on earth did he have to run away? Doesn't he know that it more-or-less verifies the point? You don't run if you've got answers to deliver.

Say hi to Vlad, pussy-grabber. fiesta

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:59 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Original Quill wrote:
Wouldn't it be wild if Melania was a Russian agent who was running Donald?  She has been laying reaaal low.

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Ivana Trump is Czech born;   Melania is Slovakian...

The former Czechoslovakia was a key USSR satellite for nearly four decades..

Did Ivana "groom" the Dumpster for his taste in Eastern European/Soviet Bloc beauties, setting him up for Melania to swoop in after their divorce  ?

'Interesting times',  indeed..        Wink

You're forgetting about Marla Maples.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:05 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
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Ivana Trump is Czech born;   Melania is Slovakian...

The former Czechoslovakia was a key USSR satellite for nearly four decades..

Did Ivana "groom" the Dumpster for his taste in Eastern European/Soviet Bloc beauties, setting him up for Melania to swoop in after their divorce  ?

'Interesting times',  indeed..        Wink

You're forgetting about Marla Maples.

Yeah, but she is not one of the eastern European agents. I am of the belief that Ivana got her claws into him, and that is why you see her progeny running him. Maybe Melania is just Putin's most recent--what do they call them--'control' for Trump.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:08 pm

Going back to the press conference, isn't it funny that Trump had no answer whatsoever to the report that he is a Russian operative?  All he gave us was righteous indignation.

It's ironic, isn't it?  The one person who destroyed righteousness and dignity in politics, screams out for righteous indignation.  What comes around goes around...he's going to live with this for the rest of his life.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:52 pm

For those interested, Buzzfeed has published the entire dossier on-line.  It is here:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html

Although the document is available, it is non-reproducible in adobe format.  The following is a synopsis of the document:

Buzzfeed wrote:Here are the things you need to know about the fallout from the dossier, published yesterday by BuzzFeed News, alleging that Donald J. Trump has deep ties to the Russian government.

The dossier, which is believed to have been written by a member of the British intelligence community, contains unverified allegations that Russian operatives have been “cultivating, supporting and assisting” Trump for years and have compromising information about him, and that Trump advisors met with high-level Russian officials in the months before the election.After CNN reported that President Obama and President-elect Trump were briefed on a two-page summary, BuzzFeed published the entire 35-page document, along with a warning that its contents were unverified.

Trump responded to the allegations with outrage. On Twitter he scolded intelligence officials for allowing the dossier to leak and asked: “Are we living in Nazi Germany?” Over 13 hours, he tweeted seven times, denying the claims and calling their publication “FAKE NEWS.” Trump is supposed to conduct his first press conference in 167 days at 11 a.m. today.

[A good indication the allegations are true.]

Multiple Russian officials denied the country’s involvement with Trump or his advisors. A Kremlin spokesman called the dossier “pulp fiction” while the former director of the FSB, Russia’s security service, told the Interfax news service that the Obama administration “has pulled all efforts to compromise the winner of the presidential race.”

[Of course, the Russians also denied they hacked the DNC computers, which turned out to be the case.]

One of the key players, Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen, denied any involvement with Russian officials. The dossier claims Cohen traveled to Prague and secretly met with Russian officials in August. Cohen has since said he never visited Prague, and told The Atlantic that the dossier is “totally fake, totally inaccurate.” The Washingtonian reported that officials at the University of Southern California confirmed that Cohen visited the Los Angeles campus on Aug. 23-29 —though the dossier does not specify the day on which Cohen is alleged to have visited Prague. CNN’s Jake Tapper reported that it was a different Michael Cohen who visited Prague. Meanwhile, the metadata on Cohen’s Twitter account indicates that he was in the U.S. for the majority of August. The longest period where his tweets are dark are two consecutive days, Aug. 15 and 16.

At least one top Democrat has called for an investigation of the allegation. Sen. Dick Durbin said that dossier merits a congressional inquiry or a special commission, with the power to issue subpoenas, led by “people of integrity like General Colin Powell or Justice Sandra Day O’Connor.” Durbin said in a statement that he reviewed both classified and unclassified intelligence reports last week, before the publication of the dossier. It was not immediately clear whether the allegations would surface during today’s confirmation hearing of Sen. Jeff Sessions, who is being considered for attorney general.

Trump supporters started a misinformation campaign about the dossier, circulating images on 4chan and Reddit that include passages not contained in the original document. They claim the entire dossier is made up and that it was sent to a Republican strategist, Rick Wilson, last year. Wilson denied being the source of the leak. He has been involved in a long-running battle with Internet trolls after he called Trump supporters “childless single men who masturbate to anime” last January.

[This is the business that the Russians are in, and as former head of the KGB, espionage and blackmail are probably bad habits that Mr. Putin picked up along the way.]

Some journalists criticized BuzzFeed News’s decision to publish the dossier. Kelly McBride, an ethicist at the nonprofit Poynter Institute for Media Studies, wrote that the “act of publishing the dossier in its entirety isn’t journalism” and said BuzzFeed News could have done more to fully vet the document and explain to readers the steps it took to verify the claims.

[And censorship is journalism?]

Trump linked to a story on lifezette.com, which is edited by Laura Ingraham, a conservative radio host and Trump supporter, calling the publication of the dossier a “shocking breakdown of journalistic ethics.” Richard Tofel, the president of the nonprofit investigative site ProPublica, defended the decision and wrote on Twitter that “citizens should have evidence to consider for themselves.”

[One has to remember that Trump was the one who persisted with the lie that Obama was not born in the US (birther argument).  Methinks the tables have turned, and we're going to see a lot of Trump denials in the next four years.  These are the new standards that Trump has himself put into place.  He must learn to live with it.]

Anthony Cormier is an investigative reporter/editor for BuzzFeed News and is based in New York. While working for the Tampa Bay Times, Cormier won the 2016 Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Reporting.
Contact Anthony Cormier at anthony.cormier@buzzfeed.com

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Post by 'Wolfie Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:01 am

G'Day

Here's an Aussie perspective of the interview :

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-12/key-moments-from-the-donald-trumps-press-conference/8177394

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Post by veya_victaous Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:10 am

Russia has already one Putin True winner


HACKING, spying and claims of sexual perversion. The reports swirling around the upper echelons of US power might be murky, but all signs point to one clear beneficiary.

That’s according to those familiar with Russian attempts to destabilise and discredit opponents who say regardless of the veracity, the recent dossier serves one purpose.

“The Russians have won on almost every account,” said Jonathan Eyal, the Director of International Security Studies at UK think tank, RUSI.

“Regardless of how the story develops, they have won. They have made a mockery of the US political process, [shown] that much-vaunted American democracy is no different from anything else, that people get bought and sold, that politicians make cynical deals. On that point [Putin] has succeeded.”

Mr Eyal said the current debate over an unverified dossier that has seen the President-elect lash out at intelligence agencies, Democrats and the media has allowed “pygmy” Russia to gain out-size influence on US politics.

“[Putin] has succeeded in influencing elections in the world’s only superpower. He has succeeded in making himself 10 feet tall. He is the subject of debate in Washington,” he said.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/how-russia-is-the-real-winner-of-leaked-intelligence-dossier-about-presidentelect-donald-trump/news-story/88f5f6b654c911c4e36ae1e9b97d0749

I agree with this analysis, Russia has exerted it's influence which has destabilized the USA. they have definitely won this round of espionage Neutral
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Post by Original Quill Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:58 am

Really, who cares if Russia has won?  The important thing is, what are we (the US) going to do about it.  It's right out of the film, No Way Out.  We've got a mole in the top job in the US, being "run" by the top enemy of the US.  The answer lies in the press being relentless on Trump.  This isn't about press popularity anymore, this is about survival.  Drive Trump to resign or drive him to the asylum...he needs to go.

I totally believe the allegations.  Let's inventory the facts.  Here is an non-thinking oaf, with a demonstrated record of sexual issues, who can't get along with anyone, who can't stay married, who bankrupts his businesses, who isn't liked by even his fellow Republicans, who insults, antagonizes, brags and bullies his way through life, leaving no friend in his wake.  Do I believe he's a pussy-grabber?  He's admitted it.  Do I believe he grabbed some Ruski pussy back in 2013 on the Moscow trip?  Look at the Access Hollywood tape.  Do I believe he was taped by the Russians doing this?  Um...was Putin the former head of the KGB?  What are the odds?

The real kicker is that Trump has gone through life scorching the earth, insulting and bullying, making enemies, leaving no friends anywhere, ex-wives who hate him, and thousands of women literally insulted by his presence...but one thing is totally out of character for him.  One thing...a complete anomaly.  He has never once bad-mouthed Putin.  Hell, he has never even looked cross-eyed at him.  That just doesn't happen with so obvious an enemy and easy a target.  Trump would be all over him like a cheap suit.  Trump is obviously scared shitless of Putin.  So something is amiss...we know right off.  That is waaaaayyy out of character for Trump, so that if I never heard of hacking, Russia and their special hacking unit, it would occur to me spontaneously that Putin has something on Trump and he's blackmailing him.

His sole defense in the press conference is to make a character argument.  Would I do that? he asks.  I tell everyone, watch your back when going abroad...would I  fall for that kind of thing? he begs.  The answer is right there in the Access Hollywood tape:

"And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything," Trump said.
"Whatever you want," Bush responded.
"Grab them by the pussy. ... Do anything,"


A guy who admittedly grabs pussies indiscriminately...would he ever, ever, ever grab some Ruski pussy in Moscow?  He would have us believe now that he is a saint.  I ask you...what evidence has he offered that he has changed?  Why would we believe him?  All people find righteousness when they get caught, don't they?  Whether it's Access Hollywood or a hotel in Moscow, he's the same guy.

The bigger they are, the harder they fall.  Stay vigilant, news media.  We're are about to hear a big THUD.

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