Arctic heatwave

eddie wrote:Please see how the adults on this topic managed to debate this issue without getting personal.

It's really easy to do!!!!!!

For some.

nicko wrote:Can some one tell me how much carbon is discharged into the Atmosphere when a Volcano erupts, bearing in mind that at any one time several are erupting some where on the Planet? How about cows farting tons of Methane, and under water Methane bubbles exploding on the seas surface.

Aren't they adding to warming?

But your point regarding 'METHANE' and the origins from whence it comes has been covered over on the 'GLOBAL WARMING' topic (quite well) ...but I'll add this caveat - given the size of those dinosaurs (and now we know some are even larger the the skeletons in our museums) ...how many cows does it take to equate to one dinosaur fart  

by nicko on Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:01 am
I see no one commented on my earlier post about Volcanoes, cows. Methane from the sea etc. Could I have spoken a little truth?

Ben Reilly wrote:Tommy, you're just niggling on a confusion of minor points of disagreement. The essence of the science has been well established for decades: carbon dioxide leads to a warmer planet. Human beings have been pumping lots of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere for a long time. Thus, the planet is warming.

Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and it really is just as simple as that. But you've drifted far from the truth and find yourself hating those who speak it.

nicko wrote:Can some one tell me how much carbon is discharged into the Atmosphere when a Volcano erupts, bearing in mind that at any one time several are erupting some where on the Planet? How about cows farting tons of Methane, and under water Methane bubbles exploding on the seas surface.

Aren't they adding to warming?

nicko wrote:Thank you 4ever2, but I have been behind a cows fart and that was bad enough,  I would imagine a dinosaur fart would blow your hat off !

4EVER2 wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

The email hack was about scientists supposedly altering data. It's just more from the world of right wing lies that makes up your reality.

   And the connected dots for those emails ...would be filled with the faked data and remarked upon within the emails; but explaining that to Tommykins is as useful as his grasping this entire 'Global Warming' issue!  FUTILE  

But a dear friend sent this link to aide in his potential educational attempt ...never let it be said that we just give up and deny Tommy a chance to LEARN!

https://nsidc.org/news/newsroom/20050801_floatingice.html

Melting of Floating Ice Will Raise Sea Level

 
Figure 1: A freshwater ice cube floats in a beaker of concentrated saltwater. Note that the ice cube floats much higher in the saltwater than it would in a glass of freshwater because saltwater has a greater density.
 

 
Figure 2: When the freshwater ice melts, it raises the water level. Freshwater is not as dense as saltwater; so the floating ice cube displaced less volume than it contributed once it melted.
 
When ice on land slides into the ocean, it displaces ocean water and causes sea level to rise. People believe that when this floating ice melts, water level doesn’t rise an additional amount because the freshwater ice displaces the same volume of water as it would contribute once it melts. Similarly, people also think that when ocean water freezes to form sea ice and then melts, the water is merely going through a change of state, so it won’t affect sea level. However, in a visit to NSIDC in May, Dr. Peter Noerdlinger, a professor at St. Mary’s University in Nova Scotia, Canada, suggested otherwise.
In a paper titled "The Melting of Floating Ice will Raise the Ocean Level" submitted to Geophysical Journal International, Noerdlinger demonstrates that melt water from sea ice and floating ice shelves could add 2.6% more water to the ocean than the water displaced by the ice, or the equivalent of approximately 4 centimeters (1.57 inches) of sea-level rise.
The common misconception that floating ice won’t increase sea level when it melts occurs because the difference in density between fresh water and salt water is not taken into consideration. Archimedes’ Principle states that an object immersed in a fluid is buoyed up by a force equal to the weight of the fluid it displaces. However, Noerdlinger notes that because freshwater is not as dense as saltwater, freshwater actually has greater volume than an equivalent weight of saltwater. Thus, when freshwater ice melts in the ocean, it contributes a greater volume of melt water than it originally displaced.
Noerdlinger's collaborator, Professor Kay R. Brower, of the New Mexico Institute of Technology, Socorro, validated the effect experimentally as seen in Figures 1 and 2.

nicko wrote:Thank you 4ever2, but I have been behind a cows fart and that was bad enough,  I would imagine a dinosaur fart would blow your hat off !

TRANTASAURUS could put a entire feed lot of cattle to shame

nicko wrote:
Can some one tell me how much carbon is discharged into the Atmosphere when a Volcano erupts, bearing in mind that at any one time several are erupting some where on the Planet? How about cows farting tons of Methane, and under water Methane bubbles exploding on the seas surface.

Aren't they adding to warming?

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:Tommy, you're just niggling on a confusion of minor points of disagreement. The essence of the science has been well established for decades: carbon dioxide leads to a warmer planet. Human beings have been pumping lots of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere for a long time. Thus, the planet is warming.

Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and it really is just as simple as that. But you've drifted far from the truth and find yourself hating those who speak it.

No... the simple truth is that the sun has been giving out more heat/energy over the last 100 years... this is backed up by scientific observations... and was even shown on one of the graphs that YOU have previously posted up!!!


This is what has caused the very slight warming over the last 100 years... and it is also known that the world temperatures have been warmer many times for sustained periods over the last 2000 years and more!

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

AGAIN, Tommy is full of deflective and false trash talking...

Solar activity has been in a downward (i.e. reducing..) cycle over the past couple of decades --  the very opposite of this planet's warming trends over the same period..

Tommy really does need to find some new sources, rather than regurgitating the same tired old Koch bros./Monckton propaganda pieces.

He's just SOS - he's happy dwelling in that dark place and he refuses to walk to the light

nicko wrote:If some one has a different opinion to you,    why do some members insist on calling him stupid and insult him every time he puts his opinion forward.
Why not just provide the evedence that he is wrong,  [if thats what you think]and leave it at that.    A certain poster puts the childish "kins" on the end of a name.   There is no need for that.

Handy Andy wrote:And I have NEVER seen you contest Tommykins referral of me as Hand Shandy.
Double standard from the far right club.
Is what we come to expect.

Gotta love that selective umbrage that Nicko drags in here ...but that is his only contributions ...that and the repetition about "cow farts" 

nicko wrote:Oh do fuck off you silly COW.

You seem to be fixated about COW's and their obnoxious gases ...makes the adults wonder just where do you keep your HEAD?  But your tried & true boring post is what you do ...never post to the topic; just derail or flame

by nicko on Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:41 am
HANDY, all those you mention are l/w geranium, and you are the biggest.

Fuck this Forum and most who sail in her

Hmmmm, unshackle those bonds & chains that keep you here and toddle off to your other jaunts and flame those members ...surely you add to that community more than you do here

by nicko on Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:52 am

And your 'PACK' trolls my posts and gives me shit about my use of emoticons; my-my-my ...such selective reading - your parachute packers do that so well.  

Handy Andy wrote:The evidence has been presented countless times, even by the site owner. But  dolts will never change their rigid and fixed opinions.
There is little anyone can do.
I beileve the world's leading scientific professors and experts over Tom's links to sites with vested interests in fossil fuels.

nicko wrote:
I don't have a "pack" you daft dingbat, unlike yourself who has arse lickers following your daft posts every day.

eddie wrote:Please see how the adults on this topic managed to debate this issue without getting personal.

It's really easy to do!!!!!!

For some.

Handy Andy wrote:Its a debating forum.
Apparently.
We are continually reminded by the mods to challenge idiotic posts with debate.
Which , I, 4Ever, Wolfie, Scrat, LF, Eddie, Irn, Sassy,  Quill, Veya, Ben, Jules have done.
He simply will not listen.
But he is a genius.

Tommy Monk wrote:No Raggs... Arctic sea ice is already floating in the water and already displacing it... antarctic ice is increasing.

Tommy Monk wrote:Frozen water...?

Tommy Monk wrote:Yes...?

Tommy Monk wrote:Slightly salty ice Melting in sea water...


When arctic seawater starts to freeze, the water ice crystals start to form and squeeze out the salt, leaving most of it in the water.

Tommy Monk wrote:Not a lot...

Tommy Monk wrote:Try the one I suggested and let us know what happened...


The one sassy posted is flawed.