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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:49 pm

At least nine people have been killed and more than 50 injured after a lorry ploughed through a crowd of shoppers at 40mph in a busy Christmas market in Berlin.
German police at the scene have indicated the incident is likely to be a terror attack.
The vehicle sped through a crowd of shoppers at the market on Breitscheidplatz Square near the Kurfuerstendamm Avenue in west Berlin.
The driver of the truck is now in police custody after initially fleeing the scene, while a passenger in the vehicle died in the crash.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html
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Post by Guest Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:53 pm

Horrible.

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Post by Syl Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:28 pm

I cant stand all this tragedy, just before Christmas too...it's so sad.
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Post by eddie Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:32 pm

The world is full of nutcases.
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Post by HoratioTarr Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:18 am

12 dead now and that poor Polish driver who was slaughtered in his own cab. It's just awful.
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Post by nicko Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:52 am

blame mrs Merkle.
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:02 pm

Not read the details yet...


HT... are you saying that the lorry was hijacked and Polish driver was murdered by thd terrorist who then drove lorry into the people?
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Post by Syl Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:35 pm

That's exactly what the latest news reported.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:45 pm

Latest is they think the perpetrator is still at large, hope not, hope he is found quickly.

The person who did this terrorist attack was found dead:

Gunman Who Shot 3 at Zurich Islamic Center Is Found Dead, Police Say


GENEVA — A gunman who wounded three people attending prayers after opening fire at an Islamic center in Zurich has been found dead, apparently after committing suicide, the Swiss police said on Tuesday.
“Our investigation says the dead man is the shooter,” Peat Jost, a spokesman for the Zurich police, said by telephone.
Mr. Jost declined to identify the gunman, who the police said was in his 30s, but he said investigators believed he had killed himself.
On Monday, in the hours after the attack, the police found the body of a man on the Gassner Bridge, near the city center and not far from the Islamic center, but did not immediately link him to the shooting.
Witnesses to the attack reported that the gunman, dressed in dark clothes and a woolen cap, had escaped on foot after the shooting, which left two people seriously wounded. The police in Zurich, the largest city in Switzerland, used tracker dog units to hunt the gunman.
The shooting came as Germany was reeling from an attack on Monday in Berlin, where a truck rammed into a Christmas market and killed 12 people. Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Tuesday that the assault was a terrorist attack.
The police have not identified a motive for the attack on the Islamic center, which was largely frequented by members of the Somali community in Zurich. The results of the investigation were scheduled to be released at a news conference later on Tuesday, the police said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/20/world/europe/zurich-mosque-attack.html

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Post by Syl Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:00 pm

Latest news on the Berlin terrorist attack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/20/world/europe/berlin-attack-christmas-market.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-1&action=click&contentCollection=Europe®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article

"BERLIN — Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany said that the Berlin Christmas market where 12 people died Monday night was the target of a terrorist attack.
The German interior minister, Thomas de Maizière, said that a man arrested on suspicion of involvement in the attack was a 23-year-old Pakistani who had applied for asylum"



http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/745360/Berlin-terror-attack-Christmas-market

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Post by nicko Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:14 pm

HE can have asylum, after they shoot him !
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Post by Syl Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:57 pm

Seems they think they may have arrested the wrong man now....what a cock up.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/berlin-christmas-market-suspect-may-still-be-at-large-reports-say/ar-BBxmyfj?li=AAaeUIW&ocid=spartandhp
"The suspect arrested over the Berlin market attack is not thought to be the person responsible and the perpetrator is still at large with a weapon, according to a report in German media.

Die Welt said the information came from a police source.
Twelve people were killed in the attack, which interior minister Thomas de Maiziere earlier said was carried out by a migrant - who appears to be from Pakistan."
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:33 pm

I'm reading the evening standard and it says the suspect was caught after 'hero bystander tracks him from cab'... says he was asylum seekers and named as 'Naveed B' ..
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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:35 pm

nicko wrote:blame mrs Merkle.

I blame the terrorists.
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Post by magica Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:36 pm

This is so bad, what a thing to happen to those poor people shopping.

They say it might be an Asylum seeker - we'll see.
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Post by Original Quill Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:55 pm

No, now they say the Pakistani asylum seeker is not the terrorists who killed the Polish driver and hijacked the truck loaded with steel beams.

Plot thickens.

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Post by magica Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:59 pm

Ooer we'll have to wait and see. They reckon its terrorists though.

Been wondering, I mean, could this be a false flag, countries have been known to do this once or twice Suspect
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Post by magica Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:59 pm

We had family over there last week, so glad they wasn't there this week. No
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Post by Original Quill Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:10 pm

magica wrote:Ooer we'll have to wait and see.  They reckon its terrorists though.

Been wondering, I mean, could this be a false flag, countries have been known to do this once or twice Suspect

False flag theory...interesting.

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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:13 pm

Well, let's put it this way - if the man's passport was conveniently left behind, it's false flag.

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Post by nicko Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:31 pm

BEN, who let them in?
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:50 pm

Earlier, German prosecutors released the only suspect who had been held, citing insufficient evidence. He had been identified by media only as Pakistani national Naved B.

Officials suggested that a perpetrator or perpetrators might be on the run.

Before the man was released late on Tuesday, German officials said they could not be be sure if he was involved in the attack.

"We have to entertain the theory that the detainee might possibly not have been the perpetrator," federal prosecutor Peter Frank told reporters.
The style of attack and the target suggested Islamic extremism, he said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38385961


Good job they didn't shoot first and ask questions later Nicko.



And Tommy, he wasn't pulled out of the cab, he was in a park.

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:35 pm

I never said he was pulled out of a cab...
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Post by eddie Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:23 pm

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magica wrote:Ooer we'll have to wait and see.  They reckon its terrorists though.

Been wondering, I mean, could this be a false flag, countries have been known to do this once or twice Suspect

False flag theory...interesting.

Yet whenever I've suggested that..... Rolling Eyes
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:42 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:I'm reading the evening standard and it says the suspect was caught after 'hero bystander tracks him from cab'... says he was asylum seekers and named as 'Naveed B' ..


I think this means that a bystander followed him after he left the cab of the lorry...


In which case they got the right one!
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Post by eddie Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:27 pm

Well usually,  terrorists commit suicide, of some sort, at the scene.
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:04 am

Police are reportedly hunting a Tunisian man over an attack in Berlin where a lorry ploughed into a German Christmas market after his asylum documents in the vehicle’s cab.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/berlin-attack-germany-police-tunisian-man-hunt-id-truck-driver-seat-christmas-market-a7488151.html  



Bloody amazing how all these people leave identity papers, passports etc in lorry cabs, taxis and they even survive massive explosions and fires of plane fuel and flutter to the ground unscorched! Rolling Eyes    Just as I said!

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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:21 pm

Probably more likely they have found dna and matched it...
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:47 pm

Yea, the police can't tell the difference between DNA and a ID certificate Rolling Eyes

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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:04 pm



I'm sure they can...


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Post by JulesV Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:04 pm

sassy wrote:Police are reportedly hunting a Tunisian man over an attack in Berlin where a lorry ploughed into a German Christmas market after his asylum documents in the vehicle’s cab.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/berlin-attack-germany-police-tunisian-man-hunt-id-truck-driver-seat-christmas-market-a7488151.html



Bloody amazing how all these people leave identity papers, passports etc in lorry cabs, taxis and they even survive massive explosions and fires of plane fuel and flutter to the ground unscorched! Rolling Eyes Just as I said![/size]
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It's often been pointed out that no matter how  extensively severe the fire or bomb or shooting is, the 'authorities' always manage to find a number of pristine passports amongst the rubble - even when everything else is burnt to a crisp. Hmmm. Shocked


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Post by JulesV Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:05 pm

But nevermind all that, there will be plenty of time to investigate and discuss that later, the fact remains that a dozen or so innocent souls lie dead. Just before christmas too. And that is very, very sad. Neutral Shame on those who perpetrate this sort of evil.

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Post by HoratioTarr Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:16 pm

sassy wrote:Well, let's put it this way - if the man's passport was conveniently left behind, it's false flag.

Judging from reports that the Polish driver fought for his life, and the ensuing struggle, it's perfectly feasible that something might have dropped from the killers clothing. Anyway, his DNA should be all over the truck.
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Post by HoratioTarr Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:30 pm

The police have found the suspect's fingerprints in the cab of the lorry.
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Post by eddie Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:07 pm

Jules wrote:
sassy wrote:Police are reportedly hunting a Tunisian man over an attack in Berlin where a lorry ploughed into a German Christmas market after his asylum documents in the vehicle’s cab.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/berlin-attack-germany-police-tunisian-man-hunt-id-truck-driver-seat-christmas-market-a7488151.html



Bloody amazing how all these people leave identity papers, passports etc in lorry cabs, taxis and they even survive massive explosions and fires of plane fuel and flutter to the ground unscorched! Rolling Eyes Just as I said![/size]
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It's often been pointed out that no matter how  extensively severe the fire or bomb or shooting is, the 'authorities' always manage to find a number of pristine passports amongst the rubble - even when everything else is burnt to a crisp. Hmmm. Shocked

I spent months on here showing some of these attacks as false flags, but people only see what they want to.
Some people simply can't get their heads round the fac that with enough money and power anything is possible.
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Post by HoratioTarr Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:07 am

He's been shot dead.
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Post by Syl Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:06 pm

By chance he was stopped by police doing a routine check in Milan (seems he was free to travel around unhindered)he shot a policeman, not fatally, and the cops shot him dead.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/berlin-terror-suspect-shot-dead-in-shootout-with-italian-police-7fc7hpzwh

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Post by Fred Moletrousers Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:11 pm

I would very much doubt whether anyone intent on murder who had just deliberately driven a lorry into a crowded area would hang around long enough to collect his personal belongings before baling out and legging it.
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Post by eddie Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:47 pm

How did he manage to get to Italy?
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Post by nicko Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:09 pm

Open Boarders, the EU's idea, anyone can walk in anywhere.

We have dozens here already waiting for their chance.
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:13 pm

The US has open borders - I support it.

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Post by nicko Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:16 pm

But then the Yanks don't have fanatical Muslims who are intent on killing us
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:16 pm

Trump says they do - and where was 9/11 again? Berlin terror attack: Suspect killed (UPDATED) 2190311264

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Post by nicko Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:17 pm

PS they will have eventually.
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Post by nicko Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:21 pm

How
many Muslim Bombs or other atrocities since 9/11?
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:22 pm

nicko wrote:How
many Muslim Bombs or other atrocities since 9/11?

Should they close the borders between states, Nicko, because of a few Muslims?

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Post by nicko Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:26 pm

Oh do piss off, your always trying to stir.
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:28 pm

nicko wrote:Oh do piss off, your always trying to stir.

They've had around 45 terrorist incidents in the US since 9/11 - should they stop free movement between States, Nicko?

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Post by nicko Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:42 pm

Did you Google it then?
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