Jo Cox murder trial: 'Nazi material' found at accused's home

by scrat Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:45 pm

Nazi-related material was found when police raided the home of the man accused of killing the Labour MP Jo Cox, the Old Bailey has heard.
Officers found an SS officer's book on race theory and mate selection, along with other white supremacist texts, when they raided the home of Thomas Mair after his arrest, the jury heard.
Mrs Cox died after she was shot three times and received 15 stab wounds in Birstall, West Yorkshire, on 16 June.
Mr Mair, 53, denies her murder.
Mr Mair, from Birstall, also denies grievous bodily harm with intent, possession of a firearm with intent to commit an indictable offence and possession of an offensive weapon - a dagger.
The jury heard officers found a bookcase with a number of German military history books organised "very neatly" and an eagle ornament with a swastika on it.
They also found a book entitled March of the Titans: The Complete History of the White Race and a book on the "politics of the Holocaust", among other texts.
A press cutting in relation to Anders Brevik, who murdered 77 people in twin attacks in Norway in July 2011, was also found, the court heard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38051593

No doubt there are those who'll defend, deflect and try to justify this creatures activities.

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:48 pm

No doubt Scrat. Terrorism is terrorism, no matters who does it or where it comes from. No doubt his Britain First group are desperately distancing themselves from him now he has done their dirty work for them.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:52 pm

Well hardly surprising news is it...

I mean, you aint going to find much in the line of lennin or whatever there are you?
besides....given the purchase lists we have seen what else WOULD you expect....

As for britain first disowning him...wouldnt you ..in their shoes?

since they are not yet a proscribed organisation (and hence not officially a terror group) there's no profit in claiming him for their own as does say ISIS when one of theirs explodes.....

by scrat Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:53 pm

sassy wrote:No doubt Scrat. Terrorism is terrorism, no matters who does it or where it comes from. No doubt his Britain First group are desperately distancing themselves from him now he has done their dirty work for them.

Exactly! the far right extremists punt out the poison and far right terrorists carry these instructions out.

They seem to think that their racist hatred can be justified!

by nicko Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:31 pm

:sleepWE have heard it all before scat

Why don't you and sass get a room?

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:30 pm

Too bored to condemn terrorism, nicko?

by nicko Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:37 pm

Ziz, you are a stirrer, no doubt about it.

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:39 pm

nicko wrote:Ziz, you are a stirrer, no doubt about it.

Because I challenge your mindless interjections? Great, so be it. Jo Cox murder trial: 'Nazi material' found at accused's home 34418

by Andy Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:39 pm

So, discussing a high profile murder case that is aking headline news is of no interest??
Only to the far right who are trying to bury the bad news.
Nicko is still giving the impression that he is still supporting Mair.
Innocent until proven guilty?
He was a far right nazi bastard. And some on here still fail to condemn him.
Beyond disgusting.
http://news.sky.com/story/jo-cox-trial-man-accused-of-killing-mp-researched-neo-nazis-court-told-10666363

by nicko Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:03 pm

Fuck off andy, I don't support him, where have I said I do?

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:16 pm

of course you are nicko...in EXACTLY the same way sassy (and the extreme left contingent) supports isis and palestinian terrorism....

by Andy Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:25 pm

nicko wrote:Fuck off andy, I don't support him, where have I said I do?

Your condemnation of Mair is so subdued it is almost invisible. Had Cox's murderer been a Syrian Muslim instead of a white Nazi supremacist, would your protests have been so muted?
No need to answer that , Nick, we already know the answer.
Instead , you bitch and bleat about the posters who condemn Mair.
That says a lot about you.

by scrat Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:29 pm

Lord Foul wrote:of course you are nicko...in EXACTLY the same way sassy (and the extreme left contingent) supports isis and palestinian terrorism....

I think what you far right extremists fail to observe is the fact that this thread is about the violent murder of a mother by a far right terrorist, one of your own, a fellow fascist who tinkered over the edge because he had simply listened to the racist bile you chaps preach.

I'm trying to understand why you can"t grasp that, and what do you hope to achieve by defending it?.

by Andy Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:32 pm

Anyone who fails to shout to the world that Mair is a vile bastard who deserves to dangle on the end of a rope is beyond contempt.
Those who fail to do so ( subconscious support) are the pond life of society.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:37 pm

ah you mean in the same way as the disgusting L/W posts failing to condemn/mitigating terrorist atrocities carried out by IsIS etc failed to "shout to the world"

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:38 pm

Lord Foul wrote:ah you mean in the same way as the disgusting L/W posts failing to condemn/mitigating terrorist atrocities carried out by IsIS etc failed to "shout to the world"

Christ I am so sick to death of these lies. Just produce the posts where terrorists have not been condemned or shut up.

by scrat Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:45 pm

Handy Andy wrote:Anyone who fails to shout to the world that Mair is a vile bastard who deserves to dangle on the end of a rope is beyond contempt.
Those who fail to do so ( subconscious support) are the pond life of society.

Well I wouldn't (in the words of TC) "stretch" this creature because I'm not into taking any human life, and let's be honest here his life moves into a scary heavy weight jail and as a project for some nerdy medical student.

But you're right about the far right being pond life, they don't have the sense that god gave a doughnut.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:47 pm

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t9576-boston-marathon-bomber-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-sentenced-to-death#183691

mitigation of terrorist activity (the "it serves us right" argument)

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t8535-you-are-either-charlie-or-terrorist-french-cartoonist#169481

mitigation of the charlie hebdo attack, (the "I deplore it BUT"....argument, followed by deflection into isreli/hammas conflicts)

people who live in glass houses and all that....

your enthusiasm in condemning ISIS generated attacks is on a par with a mouses liking for cats......

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:52 pm

Lord Foul wrote:

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t9576-boston-marathon-bomber-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-sentenced-to-death#183691

mitigation of terrorist activity (the "it serves us right" argument)

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t8535-you-are-either-charlie-or-terrorist-french-cartoonist#169481

mitigation of the charlie hebdo attack, (the "I deplore it BUT"....argument, followed by deflection into isreli/hammas conflicts)

people who live in glass houses and all that....

your enthusiasm in condemning ISIS generated attacks is on a par with a mouses liking for cats......

What utter bollocks. In none of those did I do anything but condemn the attacks.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:54 pm

very very mildly ...and THEN mitigated

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:56 pm

I did not MITIGATED, I looked and reasons, because if we don't do that we are finished. And I looked at reasons for Muir and realised his hatred came from racism that we need to contest every step of the way, because a racist world cannot carry on existing..

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:57 pm

but folks can go look if they are interested and make up their own minds....

hey ho...I have provided evidence...the power of that is in the eye of the reader one supposes...but at least its evidence ...which is more than your glove puppet can provide....

by scrat Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:08 pm

sassy wrote:I did not MITIGATED, I looked and reasons, because if we don't do that we are finished. And I looked at reasons for Muir and realised his hatred came from racism that we need to contest every step of the way, because a racist world cannot carry on existing..

TC reminds me of my neighbours cement mixer on compost the crop day, it whines and whines and whines, as it goes around and around and around.

He was outed lying about his pension, it sadly drifted into "monkey boy and the lady doth protest too much" and to his chagrin its gone rapidly downhill since then!

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:13 pm

scrat wrote:
sassy wrote:I did not MITIGATED, I looked and reasons, because if we don't do that we are finished. And I looked at reasons for Muir and realised his hatred came from racism that we need to contest every step of the way, because a racist world cannot carry on existing..
TC reminds me of my neighbours cement mixer on compost the crop day, it whines and whines and whines, as it goes around and around and around.

He was outed lying about his pension, it sadly drifted into "monkey boy and the lady doth protest too much" and to his chagrin its gone rapidly downhill since then!

well scrat...you remind me of Goebbels just of a slightly different pursuasion is all......

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:17 pm

see scart...I havnt dome te protest too much..

I have asked you to produce any evidence...and given you repeated chances to do so....

you havnt so what are we to make of that ???

oh thats right scrat is a disingenious liar

but then i think the rest of the posters are well enough aware of that by now ....

only your admirers (who would admire shit wrapped in a red flag) and puppet master see any credibility left in you....

by scrat Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:19 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
scrat wrote:
TC reminds me of my neighbours cement mixer on compost the crop day, it whines and whines and whines, as it goes around and around and around.

He was outed lying about his pension, it sadly drifted into "monkey boy and the lady doth protest too much" and to his chagrin its gone rapidly downhill since then!

well scrat...you remind me of Goebbels just of a slightly different pursuasion is all......

Ive read the "so called" evidence you provide,,, as I suspected what a load of rubbish, nowhere does Sassy defend terrorism, and I completely agree with her about Palestine, what's happening there is disgusting, I guess if we were invaded by a world power you'd have the white flag out and the kettle on before a foot was landed on our shores.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:27 pm

scrat wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:
scrat wrote:
TC reminds me of my neighbours cement mixer on compost the crop day, it whines and whines and whines, as it goes around and around and around.

He was outed lying about his pension, it sadly drifted into "monkey boy and the lady doth protest too much" and to his chagrin its gone rapidly downhill since then!

well scrat...you remind me of Goebbels just of a slightly different pursuasion is all......
Ive read the "so called" evidence you provide,,, as I suspected what a load of rubbish, nowhere does Sassy defend terrorism,

The issue was the degree of condemnation.....

and I completely agree with her about Palestine, what's happening there is disgusting,

so do I BUT...it was irrelevant and a deflection in the context of charlie hebdo.....

I guess if we were invaded by a world power you'd have the white flag out and the kettle on before a foot was landed on our shores.

no that would be you and your pals.....who want to leave us naked and powerless by scrapping our nukes.....and object to defence spending generally....

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:31 pm

If we fail to look into the reasons for terrorist attacks of any kind, as Sassy says, we're doomed. In the case of Islamic-motivated terrorism, we are dealing with an entirely different culture than our own, so it's even more important to understand what we're dealing with.

In the case of homegrown far-right terrorism, we only have to look at their websites, publications and listen to what they're chanting at their rallies, so they're easier to understand. We still pay attention, of course.

by Andy Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:32 pm

Back on topic, amongst the nazi propaganda books in Mair's house were Tommy Monk's and Lord Foul's autobiographies.
How appropriate.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:45 pm

Avenging Bae wrote:If we fail to look into the reasons for terrorist attacks of any kind, as Sassy says, we're doomed. In the case of Islamic-motivated terrorism, we are dealing with an entirely different culture than our own, so it's even more important to understand what we're dealing with.

yeah...but you dont get to use it to diminish THEIR reponsibility/culpability the "we are just as bad argument" is, if not invalid, irrelevant

In the case of homegrown far-right terrorism, we only have to look at their websites, publications and listen to what they're chanting at their rallies, so they're easier to understand. We still pay attention, of course.

then you would be terribly wrong......and you are only seeing the result....not the cause and where you DO see any cause you (being the generic "you") are so arrogant that you merely dismiss it and call the followers names.

as I have said times....IF... the lefts ideals are SOOO attractive and so well handled.....how come there is a RISING following for the right....could it possibly be due to the fact that the lefts arrogance is their undoing???

and keep in mind my REAL stance on L/W v's R/W issues... (I think they are BOTH morons )

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:46 pm

No, I don't believe that anybody has ever claimed that because terrorists had a motive to commit terrorism, that exonerates them Rolling Eyes

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:58 pm

THAT...is debateable

and...does NOT change the fact that nicko has NOT in anyway condoned (which IS the accusation leveled) the actions of that tit Mair...

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:59 pm

Ben...what is sauce for the goose...etc.....

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:02 pm

Lord Foul wrote:Ben...what is sauce for the goose...etc.....

So you're saying that the left needs to try a little understanding when it comes to right-wing morons highjacking the world's most powerful governments?

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:11 pm

Avenging Bae wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:Ben...what is sauce for the goose...etc.....

So you're saying that the left needs to try a little understanding when it comes to right-wing morons highjacking the world's most powerful governments?

No...I'm saying it needs to stop telling people who have genuine concerns that they are merely bigots and idiots...

as in our dear ex PM Brown and that old woman who made a point about immigration

as in the stubbornness of the left which resulted in the brexit vote (for a number of left dominated issues, not merely immigration)

the left does little to recommend itself to many in the "voter base" with its arrogance and overbearing patriarchal attitude...

people hear a leftist saying extra money for the poor
better conditions at work
decent society
and BTW you are a fucking racist bastard for asking about immigration

what do they take away with them???
which of those 4 things stick in their minds???

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:47 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Avenging Bae wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:Ben...what is sauce for the goose...etc.....

So you're saying that the left needs to try a little understanding when it comes to right-wing morons highjacking the world's most powerful governments?

No...I'm saying it needs to stop telling people who have genuine concerns that they are merely bigots and idiots...

as in our dear ex PM Brown and that old woman who made a point about immigration

as in the stubbornness of the left which resulted in the brexit vote (for a number of left dominated issues, not merely immigration)

the left does little to recommend itself to many in the "voter base" with its arrogance and overbearing patriarchal attitude...

people hear a leftist saying extra money for the poor
better conditions at work
decent society
and BTW you are a fucking racist bastard for asking about immigration

what do they take away with them???
which of those 4 things stick in their minds???

Sorry, I didn't realize that Labour politicians in the UK called the right "fucking racist bastards" -- it appears that the left is just as stupid as the right in your country.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:52 pm

Its worse

their supporters and activists...(who are the face most of us get to see and hear...just like on here)
are the ones doing it....

(with the exception of dear old Mr brown)

and...what Have I been saying for te past who knows how long ?

BOTH sides are indeed idiots....

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:56 pm

Avenging Bae wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:

No...I'm saying it needs to stop telling people who have genuine concerns that they are merely bigots and idiots...

as in our dear ex PM Brown and that old woman who made a point about immigration

as in the stubbornness of the left which resulted in the brexit vote (for a number of left dominated issues, not merely immigration)

the left does little to recommend itself to many in the "voter base" with its arrogance and overbearing patriarchal attitude...

people hear a leftist saying extra money for the poor
better conditions at work
decent society
and BTW you are a fucking racist bastard for asking about immigration

what do they take away with them???
which of those 4 things stick in their minds???

Sorry, I didn't realize that Labour politicians in the UK called the right "fucking racist bastards" -- it appears that the left is just as stupid as the right in your country.

They don't. They do however call them out if they are racist

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:56 pm

Don't call them racists ...

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by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:58 pm

Don't call them racist ...

Jo Cox murder trial: 'Nazi material' found at accused's home Adam-yauch-park-in-brooklyn-2f38d481-65db-476e-856a-8c46e2941dcf

... or they'll throw a tantrum and give Donald Trump control over America's nuclear arsenal!

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:01 pm

Avenging Bae wrote:Don't call them racist ...

... or they'll throw a tantrum and give Donald Trump control over America's nuclear arsenal!

Yea, ain't that the truth.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:11 pm

yeah well....

you lot are nuts anyway

however we aint talking about either your nut jobs or ours ...at least i'm not

I'm talking about how the average joe lefty HERE (as exampled by HA, Sassy scrat etc....) treat any and all dissent to thier supposed utopia...even conflating a posters opinion of one of their number (hint Sleep

) with the matter being discussed...such is their desire to supress all and any dissent....

As was pointed out nicko condemned the failure of that driver to carry the guide dog...it would therefore be both inconsitant with that stated position, AND, more importantly plainly little more than incendiary deliberate stupidty on the behalf of aforesaid suspects to think that he actually supports the behaviour of those two idiot MP's who's own party even criticised them (yes the party could do more ...like removing them from office)

and you will see the depths these types are happy to sink to by the comment by HA that got him 3 days in the caboose (and will get him more and longer if he continues)

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:12 pm

Lord Foul wrote:yeah well....

you lot are nuts anyway

however we aint talking about either your nut jobs or ours ...at least i'm not

I'm talking about how the average joe lefty HERE (as exampled by HA, Sassy scrat etc....) treat any and all dissent to thier supposed utopia...even conflating a posters opinion of one of their number (hint ) with the matter being discussed...such is their desire to supress all and any dissent....

As was pointed out nicko condemned the failure of that driver to carry the guide dog...it would therefore be both inconsitant with that stated position, AND, more importantly plainly little more than incendiary deliberate stupidty on the behalf of aforesaid suspects to think that he actually supports the behaviour of those two idiot MP's who's own party even criticised them (yes the party could do more ...like removing them from office)

and you will see the depths these types are happy to sink to by the comment by HA that got him 3 days in the caboose (and will get him more and longer if he continues)

Nope, Nicko does his zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz bit if anything shows up the Conservatives, it's pathetic.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:18 pm

sassy wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:yeah well....

you lot are nuts anyway

however we aint talking about either your nut jobs or ours ...at least i'm not

I'm talking about how the average joe lefty HERE (as exampled by HA, Sassy scrat etc....) treat any and all dissent to thier supposed utopia...even conflating a posters opinion of one of their number (hint ) with the matter being discussed...such is their desire to supress all and any dissent....

As was pointed out nicko condemned the failure of that driver to carry the guide dog...it would therefore be both inconsitant with that stated position, AND, more importantly plainly little more than incendiary deliberate stupidty on the behalf of aforesaid suspects to think that he actually supports the behaviour of those two idiot MP's who's own party even criticised them (yes the party could do more ...like removing them from office)

and you will see the depths these types are happy to sink to by the comment by HA that got him 3 days in the caboose (and will get him more and longer if he continues)

Nope, Nicko does his zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz bit if anything shows up the Conservatives, it's pathetic.

AHHH...so in fact the reality is that you (and your cohort) think the conservatives are R/W extremists

becasue ...IF you (as your mob) certainly must, consider nicko a nazi pig for supporting the conservative position....then you MUST also consider that party to be so....

how telling....

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:20 pm

No, I've said before I don't think they are RW extremists - you got memory loss? I think they are uncaring bastards who don't give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves and do everything they can to feather their nests and those of their mates.

You really are getting yourself in a bit of a pickle with this stupid vendetta.

by scrat Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:23 pm

It's me that think they're far right extremists Cool

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:26 pm

scrat wrote:It's me that think they're far right extremists

Well, they are definitely far right, but I class extremists as those who seek to destroy and are capable of using violence. You know what, fuck it, they definitely seek to destroy and they are perfectly capable of using the police and military against citizens as Orgreave proved, so you could be the one who is correct.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:32 pm

sassy wrote:No, I've said before I don't think they are RW extremists - you got memory loss? I think they are uncaring bastards who don't give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves and do everything they can to feather their nests and those of their mates.

You really are getting yourself in a bit of a pickle with this stupid vendetta.

but you must think so, since you failed to condemn HA's disgusting post to nicko...and by your silence thus align yourself with HA...(by your own logic)

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:37 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
sassy wrote:No, I've said before I don't think they are RW extremists - you got memory loss? I think they are uncaring bastards who don't give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves and do everything they can to feather their nests and those of their mates.

You really are getting yourself in a bit of a pickle with this stupid vendetta.

but you must think so, since you failed to condemn HA's disgusting post to nicko...and by your silence thus align yourself with HA...(by your own logic)

Ah right, so any post I don't condemn I agree with. Really, doesn't that put you in a difficult position? You see, I'm not on here much, so there are a lot of posts I don't even read. Perhaps I should condemn every post on the forum just to be sure Rolling Eyes

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:43 pm

No...but perhaps you and your cohorts shouldnt apply that logic to others????????????????

see it works both ways....

just as when I dealt with major's excesses

I will deal with those of your comrades who are no better.....

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