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Post by Original Quill Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:20 pm

USA TODAY wrote:USA TODAY's Editorial Board: Trump is 'unfit for the presidency'
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The Editorial Board has never taken sides in the presidential race. We're doing it now.

In the 34-year history of USA TODAY, the Editorial Board has never taken sides in the presidential race. Instead, we’ve expressed opinions about the major issues and haven’t presumed to tell our readers, who have a variety of priorities and values, which choice is best for them. Because every presidential race is different, we revisit our no-endorsement policy every four years. We’ve never seen reason to alter our approach. Until now.

This year, the choice isn’t between two capable major party nominees who happen to have significant ideological differences. This year, one of the candidates — Republican nominee Donald Trump — is, by unanimous consensus of the Editorial Board, unfit for the presidency.

From the day he declared his candidacy 15 months ago through this week’s first presidential debate, Trump has demonstrated repeatedly that he lacks the temperament, knowledge, steadiness and honesty that America needs from its presidents.

Whether through indifference or ignorance, Trump has betrayed fundamental commitments made by all presidents since the end of World War II. These commitments include unwavering support for NATO allies, steadfast opposition to Russian aggression, and the absolute certainty that the United States will make good on its debts. He has expressed troubling admiration for authoritarian leaders and scant regard for constitutional protections.

We’ve been highly critical of the GOP nominee in a number of previous editorials. With early voting already underway in several states and polls showing a close race, now is the time to spell out, in one place, the reasons Trump should not be president:

He is erratic. Trump has been on so many sides of so many issues that attempting to assess his policy positions is like shooting at a moving target. A list prepared by NBC details 124 shifts by Trump on 20 major issues since shortly before he entered the race. He simply spouts slogans and outcomes (he’d replace Obamacare with “something terrific”) without any credible explanations of how he’d achieve them.

He is ill-equipped to be commander in chief. Trump’s foreign policy pronouncements typically range from uninformed to incoherent. It’s not just Democrats who say this. Scores of Republican national security leaders have signed an extraordinary open letter calling Trump’s foreign policy vision “wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle.” In a Wall Street Journal column this month, Robert Gates, the highly respected former Defense secretary who served presidents of both parties over a half-century, described Trump as “beyond repair.”

He traffics in prejudice. From the very beginning, Trump has built his campaign on appeals to bigotry and xenophobia, whipping up resentment against Mexicans, Muslims and migrants. His proposals for mass deportations and religious tests are unworkable and contrary to America’s ideals.

Trump has stirred racist sentiments in ways that can’t be erased by his belated and clumsy outreach to African Americans. His attacks on an Indiana-born federal judge of Mexican heritage fit “the textbook definition of a racist comment,” according to House Speaker Paul Ryan, the highest-ranking elected official in the Republican Party. And for five years, Trump fanned the absurd “birther” movement that falsely questioned the legitimacy of the nation’s first black president.

His business career is checkered. Trump has built his candidacy on his achievements as a real estate developer and entrepreneur. It’s a shaky scaffold, starting with a 1973 Justice Department suit against Trump and his father for systematically discriminating against blacks in housing rentals. (The Trumps fought the suit but later settled on terms that were viewed as a government victory.) Trump’s companies have had some spectacular financial successes, but this track record is marred by six bankruptcy filings, apparent misuse of the family’s charitable foundation, and allegations by Trump University customers of fraud. A series of investigative articles published by the USA TODAY Network found that Trump has been involved in thousands of lawsuits over the past three decades, including at least 60 that involved small businesses and contract employees who said they were stiffed. So much for being a champion of the little guy.

He isn’t leveling with the American people. Is Trump as rich as he says? No one knows, in part because, alone among major party presidential candidates for the past four decades, he refuses to release his tax returns. Nor do we know whether he has paid his fair share of taxes, or the extent of his foreign financial entanglements.

He speaks recklessly. In the days after the Republican convention, Trump invited Russian hackers to interfere with an American election by releasing Hillary Clinton’s emails, and he raised the prospect of “Second Amendment people” preventing the Democratic nominee from appointing liberal justices. It’s hard to imagine two more irresponsible statements from one presidential candidate.

He has coarsened the national dialogue. Did you ever imagine that a presidential candidate would discuss the size of his genitalia during a nationally televised Republican debate? Neither did we. Did you ever imagine a presidential candidate, one who avoided service in the military, would criticize Gold Star parents who lost a son in Iraq? Neither did we. Did you ever imagine you’d see a presidential candidate mock a disabled reporter? Neither did we. Trump’s inability or unwillingness to ignore criticism raises the specter of a president who, like Richard Nixon, would create enemies’ lists and be consumed with getting even with his critics.

He’s a serial liar. Although polls show that Clinton is considered less honest and trustworthy than Trump, it’s not even a close contest. Trump is in a league of his own when it comes to the quality and quantity of his misstatements. When confronted with a falsehood, such as his assertion that he was always against the Iraq War, Trump’s reaction is to use the Big Lie technique of repeating it so often that people begin to believe it.

We are not unmindful of the issues that Trump’s campaign has exploited: the disappearance of working-class jobs; excessive political correctness; the direction of the Supreme Court; urban unrest and street violence; the rise of the Islamic State terrorist group; gridlock in Washington and the influence of moneyed interests. All are legitimate sources of concern.

Nor does this editorial represent unqualified support for Hillary Clinton, who has her own flaws (though hers are far less likely to threaten national security or lead to a constitutional crisis). The Editorial Board does not have a consensus for a Clinton endorsement.

Some of us look at her command of the issues, resilience and long record of public service — as first lady, U.S. senator and secretary of State — and believe she’d serve the nation ably as its president.

Other board members have serious reservations about Clinton’s sense of entitlement, her lack of candor and her extreme carelessness in handling classified information.

Where does that leave us? Our bottom-line advice for voters is this: Stay true to your convictions. That might mean a vote for Clinton, the most plausible alternative to keep Trump out of the White House. Or it might mean a third-party candidate. Or a write-in. Or a focus on down-ballot candidates who will serve the nation honestly, try to heal its divisions, and work to solve its problems.

Whatever you do, however, resist the siren song of a dangerous demagogue. By all means vote, just not for Donald Trump.

USA TODAY's editorial opinions are decided by its Editorial Board, separate from the news staff. Most editorials are coupled with an opposing view — a unique USA TODAY feature.

To read more editorials, go to the Opinion front page or sign up for the daily Opinion email newsletter. To respond to this editorial, submit a comment to letters@usatoday.com.

First, the Arizona Republic endorsed a Democrat for the first time in it's 128-year history, and now the national paper, USA TODAY, while declining to specifically endorse Clinton, pointedly endorses a 'no-Trump' position. It has never before taken such a stance.

Read the highlighted (bold) portions of their reasons for not voting for Trump. They summarize it very well.

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Post by nicko Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:31 pm

If Trump wins will you emigrate?
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Post by Original Quill Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:12 pm

nicko wrote:If Trump wins will you emigrate?

It's possible.  I believe that Trump would bring down a reign of terror and destruction upon the US, if not internally, then he will provoke an attack by some foreign power.  I would rather not be here for that.

My grandfather was a Scot, so I am 2-degrees of consanguinity away from a British citizen, which means I am entitled to UK citizenship by just signing the papers.  I could go to another country, but I would have to become a foreign resident.  Incidentally, I have been casually looking into some UN posts, which would permit me to keep my US citizenship (for better days) while residing elsewhere.

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Post by JulesV Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:20 pm

Trumpee did not get famous through his business acumen, he  acquired fame through a reality show, with the famous catchphrases "you're fired/you're hired". Gordon Ramsay might be right when he said that Trumps thinks the whole presidential race is one big reality show.

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Post by nicko Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:44 pm

I WOULD NOT WANT COWARDS COMING TO MY COUNTRY, IF THERE WAS TROUBLE I COULD NOT COUNT ON YOU BACKING ME UP. GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!
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Post by Original Quill Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:32 pm

nicko wrote:I WOULD NOT WANT COWARDS COMING TO MY COUNTRY, IF THERE WAS TROUBLE I COULD NOT COUNT ON YOU BACKING ME UP.     GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!

I don't really care.

There is trouble, and you are a part of it.  But the trouble you perceive--running off to steal the land of another, killing his wife, children and extended family--you would be no good at solving.  You are part of the problem, not the solution.

You talk in noble terms, of defending your country, or saving children, but I'll bet you were 5,000-miles away from England's shores, killing people in their own homes.  And I'll bet you were killing their babies, and saving none.  And you never once asked what you were doing!  Killing other human beings, and not asking a simple, profound question like that?

I want no part of your rituals!  There's a better world, and I will be a part of that.

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Post by nicko Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:47 pm

GERANIUM.
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Post by The Devil, You Know Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:42 pm

Jules wrote:Trumpee did not get famous through his business acumen, he  acquired fame through a reality show, with the famous catchphrases "you're fired/you're hired". Gordon Ramsay might be right when he said that Trumps thinks the whole presidential race is one big reality show.
I think trump was well known long before the apprentice
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Post by The Devil, You Know Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:43 pm

they dont like trumps lies but seem to be happy with clintons? how curious
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Post by Original Quill Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:12 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:they dont like trumps lies but seem to be happy with clintons? how curious

Hi Dean. Unfortunately, they've got nothing to show in the way of Hillary's lies. It's all speculation...Republican speculation. And you know where that comes from. The same place as Benghazi.

But Trump has been caught bribing the Attorney General of Florida and the Attorney General of Texas, not to enter New York's suit for fraud over Trump University. And he used his Foundation money to do it, which he puts no money into. That's what the IRS is looking into in his tax returns. Then there's his illegal business dealings with Cuba. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/donald-trump-cuba-business/

I'm of the opinion that Trump doesn't expect to win. He's running in order to make himself too big to be prosecuted. Sorta like Dick Cheney.

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Post by Original Quill Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:27 am

The San Diego Union Tribune becomes yet another popular city newspaper to endorse Hillary Clinton.

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:33 am

Original Quill wrote:The San Diego Union Tribune becomes yet another popular city newspaper to endorse Hillary Clinton.

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In the interest of fairness, here's a complete list of all the newspapers that have endorsed Trump:

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Post by eddie Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:52 am

The Devil, You Know wrote:they dont like trumps lies but seem to be happy with clintons? how curious


Fingers in ear and la la la la
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Post by Original Quill Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:29 pm

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eddie wrote:


Fingers in ear and la la la la

It's only a matter of time before the Yanks have a Burkha wearing President in my opinion so this election and the eventual outcome is of no consequence as they will never stop the influx of illegals or even want to really.

Sound bites and bulls*it wins the day the world over!

I find nothing wrong with that. A piece of American history is the 'melting pot' thesis...that no matter where one comes from, no matter one's color, no matter one's religion or creed, you are American and have the right to participate in any part of America, including American politics. When you come to America you melt into the whole population, and you are a welcome addition to the whole.

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:03 pm

One of the most assiduous chroniclers of Trump’s falsehoods is the Toronto Star‘s Daniel Dale, who has been keeping tabs on each of the lies in Trump’s speeches and other public appearances and reporting them on Twitter. It’s an astonishing litany of insistent, apparently reflexive lying that in any normal year–and 2016 is emphatically not normal–would be the headline of the election.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2016/09/27/why-does-donald-trump-lie-so-much/#71ab52d46d24
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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:04 pm

By the way, Forbes is a right-leaning publication.
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Post by Original Quill Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:23 pm

Of course the New York Times and Los Angeles Times have endorsed Hillary, as have the Baltimore Sun, the Houston Chronicle, New York Daily News, the Dallas Morning News, the Cincinnati Enquirer, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Portland Press Herald, the Dallas Voice, Falls Church News-Press and the Akron Beacon Journal, which said: "Hillary Clinton is the change. ... She knows her way around the partisan battles. The country doesn't need a revolution. It isn't a wreck. It requires the right brand of change."

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:25 pm

The big story is all the papers who have almost always endorsed a Republican who are endorsing Clinton:

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There is only one serious candidate on the presidential ballot in November. We recommend Hillary Clinton.
We don't come to this decision easily. This newspaper has not recommended a Democrat for the nation's highest office since before World War II — if you're counting, that's more than 75 years and nearly 20 elections. The party's over-reliance on government and regulation to remedy the country's ills is at odds with our belief in private-sector ingenuity and innovation. Our values are more about individual liberty, free markets and a strong national defense.

We've been critical of Clinton's handling of certain issues in the past. But unlike Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton has experience in actual governance, a record of service and a willingness to delve into real policy.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2016/09/07/recommend-hillary-clinton-us-president
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Post by JulesV Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:16 pm

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Jules wrote:Trumpee did not get famous through his business acumen, he  acquired fame through a reality show, with the famous catchphrases "you're fired/you're hired". Gordon Ramsay might be right when he said that Trumps thinks the whole presidential race is one big reality show.

I think trump was well known long before the apprentice

But was he a household name? Which is a step up from being merely 'famous'.
Being a wealthy businessman is not enough to make an American a household name, not even one as eccentric as Trump.
His televised reality show took him into people's homes and that made all the difference, I believe.

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:08 am

He was moderately well-known in the 80s and 90s, but his TV show made him famous. The reality show he was starring in when Obama and Hillary Clinton were getting Osama bin Laden.
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Post by 'Wolfie Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:52 pm

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they dont like trumps lies but seem to be happy with clintons? how curious

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IF you honestly believe that Clinton is anywhere near as bad as Trump,  then you yourself are truly one twisted individual, Deano...        Suspect
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Post by eddie Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:53 pm

Wasn't Trump a boxing promoter? That's where I know him from.
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Post by Original Quill Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:07 pm

Trump dabbled in many things.  Boxing promoter.  Owner of the New Jersey Generals USFL football team.  Beauty pageant owner and promoter...along with his real estate business.

Trump was mostly known along the eastern seaboard.  (I knew of him as I lived in NYC and taught at the City University of New York.)  His career is distinguished by a few successes, but mostly his failures.

He got a sizable loan from his millionaire father, and even more, some favorable loans from the city owing to his father's influence.  When his father died in 1999, he shared (with siblings) in an inheritance of some $250-300-million,  With those proceeds he began a real estate development business in lower Manhattan, spreading out over the city and eventually building hotel and casino properties in North and South America, and Europe, culminating with the Trump Tower, which became the brand.  If he had ended there, he could justify his claim to being a success.

But he invested heavily in Atlantic City hotels and casinos, and lost in equal proportions.  That is the $916-million in losses that he claimed in his 1995 tax returns.  His New Jersey General's football team folded...as, indded, did the entire league.  He owns the Miss Universe pageant and Miss USA and tried to muscle into the Miss World pageant...you've seen what he has done to Miss Universe, and he never got to take over Miss World.

His fame probably begins with his book, The Art of the Deal.  That got him known.  Then he moved into TV just when reality shows came into being.  That and his real estate holdings...and there you have it.

He's a monumental success, and a colossal failure.  You are right in the middle of the game, because his bid for the presidency is just another rung in the ladder.  Is he a success?  We'll let you know.

If he wins, all those tax dodges and bribes will be inconvenient truths buried under; but if he loses he may be prosecuted by the IRS, the State of New York and private fraud lawsuits all over the country.

Compare that to Hillary, whose wrongdoing is composed solely of Republican lies, snickers and winks.

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:28 pm

Don't leave out his guest appearance in a Playboy Magazine video centerfold ...
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