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Moral purpose? Liverpool council says David Cameron's government has a duty to protect people
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Liverpool Council is reporting David Cameron to the United Nations, claiming that his government could be breaking international rules on keeping people out of poverty.

Authority bosses believe the coalition – through its controversial policies such as the hated bedroom tax and welfare reform – could be in breach of the UN economic and social rights convention that sets out minimum standards for access to food, clothing and housing.

Labour members from all parts of the city have spoken of the evidence they have gathered of people who were being forced into degrading poverty because they were being denied access to benefits they desperately needed.

Many are ending up having to resort to what they said was effectively “begging” for food at food banks, the Liverpool Echo reports.

At a meeting this week, councillors heard stories of people stripped of their dole money for up to 16 weeks because they had been late for interviews or had failed to meet the criteria of the government’s Welfare to Work programme.

And they heard claims that in some job centres in the city, suspensions of benefits and other sanctions had risen by up to 500% since 2012.

But the government has hailed the removal of benefits from people who “aren’t pulling their weight” as evidence that the “something for nothing” culture was being tackled.

Cabinet member for children’s services in Liverpool Cllr Jane Corbett, who brought forward a motion along with Croxteth Cllr Barry Kushner, said: “We were elected to represent the people of Liverpool and speak up for them, fight for justice for them to make sure their voices are heard.”

In a rare moment of cross-party unity, Lib Dem Cllr Pat Moloney said: “It is the moral purpose of government to protect its citizens ... and to keep them out of hunger and worse.”



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Post by Irn Bru Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:55 pm

The United Nations have already carried out an investigation into the Bedroom Tax and the report from UN Inspector Raquel Rolnik is expected quite soon. Her early comments certainly stirred up a hornets nest with the Tories get all hot and bothered about it because I think they know that it is more than likely she will rip into them over how unfair it is.

Should be a lively subject for debate when her report is published.
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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:06 pm

Irn Bru wrote:The United Nations have already carried out an investigation into the Bedroom Tax and the report from UN Inspector Raquel Rolnik is expected quite soon. Her early comments certainly stirred up a hornets nest with the Tories get all hot and bothered about it because I think they know that it is more than likely she will rip into them over how unfair it is.

Should be a lively subject for debate when her report is published.

.....Will anything come of it though?

Let's hope so!

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:09 pm

The only thing his bedroom tax and benefit cuts will unite are more people against the conservatives, and after his blood.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:14 pm

Joy Division wrote:The only thing his bedroom tax and benefit cuts will unite are more people against the conservatives, and after his blood.

As Irn said...Looking forward to hearing the debate on this one, major embarrassment for the Tories!  cheers 

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:28 pm

Should be interesting, we'll have to wait and see.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:09 pm

Catman wrote:
I can't see any problem in referring to the law of the land as a back up to an argument tbf.

Shut up, Phil, Bedroom tax is law, you can't criticize it.

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Post by Irn Bru Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:11 pm

краљица од Хартс wrote:
Catman wrote:
I can't see any problem in referring to the law of the land as a back up to an argument tbf.

Shut up, Phil, Bedroom tax is law, you can't criticize it.

Laughing
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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:11 pm

краљица од Хартс wrote:
Catman wrote:
I can't see any problem in referring to the law of the land as a back up to an argument tbf.

Shut up, Phil, Bedroom tax is law, you can't criticize it.

Bedroom tax is law, however, Cameron keeps changing his mind about what the rules are. For example, he told Parliament that all disabled children were exempt. He lied, they aren't.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:15 pm

краљица од Хартс wrote:
Catman wrote:
I can't see any problem in referring to the law of the land as a back up to an argument tbf.

Shut up, Phil, Bedroom tax is law, you can't criticize it.

Where did i say that i was against criticism, just against hate speech and pointed out the laws that back me up.  Rolling Eyes 

You've brought up a quote from a separate thread, that doesn't have anything to do with the OP here.  Rolling Eyes 


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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:17 pm

Catman wrote:
краљица од Хартс wrote:

Shut up, Phil, Bedroom tax is law, you can't criticize it.

Where did i say that i was against criticism, just against hate speech and pointed out the laws that back me up.  Rolling Eyes 

You've brought up a quote from a separate thread, that doesn't have anything to do with the OP here.  Rolling Eyes 

Maybe I support the bedroom tax and pointing out the laws that back me up
Also you constantly bring up things that have nothing to do with what's being discussed so I fail to see your point.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:19 pm

Oh do shut up and stop trying to divert a thread because you have argued with Phil on another thread.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:20 pm

краљица од Хартс wrote:
Catman wrote:

Where did i say that i was against criticism, just against hate speech and pointed out the laws that back me up.  Rolling Eyes 

You've brought up a quote from a separate thread, that doesn't have anything to do with the OP here.  Rolling Eyes 

Maybe I support the bedroom tax and pointing out the laws that back me up
Also you constantly bring up things that have nothing to do with what's being discussed so I fail to see your point.

I don't have a problem with that, stop getting narky because i mentioned the anime thing on a separate thread.  Laughing 

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:21 pm

Sassy wrote:Oh do shut up and stop trying to divert a thread because you have argued with Phil on another thread.  

Exactly!

 lol! 

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:23 pm

Catman wrote:
краљица од Хартс wrote:
Maybe I support the bedroom tax and pointing out the laws that back me up
Also you constantly bring up things that have nothing to do with what's being discussed so I fail to see your point.

I don't have a problem with that, stop getting narky because i mentioned the anime thing on a separate thread.  Laughing 

Keep telling yourself that's why I posted in this thread.
Whatever makes you feel superior, Philly.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:32 pm

краљица од Хартс wrote:
Catman wrote:

I don't have a problem with that, stop getting narky because i mentioned the anime thing on a separate thread.  Laughing 

Keep telling yourself that's why I posted in this thread.
Whatever makes you feel superior, Philly.

Stop baiting and spoiling for an argument, you're getting boring now.  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:38 pm

Catman wrote:You're beneath my notice. Begone now, peon for I am bored with you

Look at you trying to look all superior.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:40 pm

Oh well, there goes the discussion.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:41 pm

Sassy wrote:Oh well, there goes the discussion.

Yeah, whatever I'll fuck off to the other thread.
Phil can respond to me in the other thread if he wants.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:42 pm

Thank you so much.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:42 pm

Catman wrote:David Cameron to be reported to United Nations over bedroom tax and benefit cuts  David-Cameron-3026010

Moral purpose? Liverpool council says David Cameron's government has a duty to protect people
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Liverpool Council is reporting David Cameron to the United Nations, claiming that his government could be breaking international rules on keeping people out of poverty.

Authority bosses believe the coalition – through its controversial policies such as the hated bedroom tax and welfare reform – could be in breach of the UN economic and social rights convention that sets out minimum standards for access to food, clothing and housing.

Labour members from all parts of the city have spoken of the evidence they have gathered of people who were being forced into degrading poverty because they were being denied access to benefits they desperately needed.

Many are ending up having to resort to what they said was effectively “begging” for food at food banks, the Liverpool Echo reports.

At a meeting this week, councillors heard stories of people stripped of their dole money for up to 16 weeks because they had been late for interviews or had failed to meet the criteria of the government’s Welfare to Work programme.

And they heard claims that in some job centres in the city, suspensions of benefits and other sanctions had risen by up to 500% since 2012.

But the government has hailed the removal of benefits from people who “aren’t pulling their weight” as evidence that the “something for nothing” culture was being tackled.

Cabinet member for children’s services in Liverpool Cllr Jane Corbett, who brought forward a motion along with Croxteth Cllr Barry Kushner, said: “We were elected to represent the people of Liverpool and speak up for them, fight for justice for them to make sure their voices are heard.”

In a rare moment of cross-party unity, Lib Dem Cllr Pat Moloney said: “It is the moral purpose of government to protect its citizens ... and to keep them out of hunger and worse.”



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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:43 pm

Catman wrote:
Joy Division wrote:The only thing his bedroom tax and benefit cuts will unite are more people against the conservatives, and after his blood.

As Irn said...Looking forward to hearing the debate on this one, major embarrassment for the Tories!  cheers 

I don't suppose anyone knows how long it will be before the UN debates it?

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Post by Irn Bru Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:21 pm

Sassy wrote:
Catman wrote:

As Irn said...Looking forward to hearing the debate on this one, major embarrassment for the Tories!  cheers 

I don't suppose anyone knows how long it will be before the UN debates it?

It's due to be published in March this year. Sure to be a cracker.
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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:26 pm

Irn Bru wrote:
Sassy wrote:

I don't suppose anyone knows how long it will be before the UN debates it?

It's due to be published in March this year. Sure to be a cracker.

Pop corn at ready!

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:27 pm

It would certainly tickle my sense of schadenfreude to see

Tony Blair up in front of the UN for war crimes
and
Cameron up in front of the UN for crimes against humanity

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:31 pm

grumpy old git wrote:It would certainly tickle my sense of schadenfreude to see

Tony Blair up in front of the UN for war crimes
and
Cameron up in front of the UN for crimes against humanity

Seconded!

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