Is a 2 year ban enough?

by Victorismyhero Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:35 pm

A video of a teenage driver reaching speeds of 125mph with a baby and a girl in the back of his car has been released by Gloucester Police.

Kieran Hayward was filmed by a patrol car speeding through the streets of Gloucester as he desperately tried to evade capture.

The footage shows the 19-year-old on the wrong side of the road and weaving past queuing traffic during the four-mile pursuit.

Unknown to the officers at the time, there was a baby and a five-year-old girl in the back of the Volkswagen Golf he was driving.

He was caught when he got stuck in traffic on the A40 bypass on the evening of 8 April.

Hayward, from Gloucester, was sentenced to six months in a young offenders' institution by a judge at Gloucester Crown Court last week.

He said he sped off from officers because he had no insurance, an offence that would have cost him £400 in fines and points on his licence.

Hayward was also banned from driving for more than two years after admitting dangerous driving and driving without insurance.

so he gets 6 months in a holiday camp and a 2 year ban....

should he have got more...like 5 years in a tough prison and a lifetime ban (and should we ensure he doesnt breed??)

by Guest Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:38 pm

10 year ban and being forced to see the consequences of every mashed up car and person in the UK for 2 years.

by Victorismyhero Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:53 pm

why only 10 years sassy....

If I misued a firearm, I'd be subject not only to much longer jail term but a lifetime ban on owning one ......

by Victorismyhero Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:53 pm

ther IS an equivalence here.....

by Guest Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:58 pm

I have no idea what the jail terms are for guns, was simply answering your question. Hopefully, after 10 years, and seeing the results of what his driving could have caused, he would have grown up enough to be a different person. Luckily, very, very luckily, he didn't kill anyone.

by Ben Reilly Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:44 am

Lord Foul wrote:why only 10 years sassy....

If I misued a firearm, I'd be subject not only to much longer jail term but a lifetime ban on owning one ......

There's no equivalence, guns are designed to kill things and that's the first thing everyone thinks about when they think about a gun. It's not like they check your e-mail but if you misuse them you might kill someone ...

A vehicle is designed to transport people and that's the first thing people think about when they think of a vehicle. Not using it to kill someone.

by Victorismyhero Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:21 am

the equivalence...which you fail to see..... is a homicidal lack of concern for others well being

to me, both a vehicle and a gun are mere tools to do a job, neither (in my hands and in as much as I am responsible at least) is a danger to my fellow human.

It is YOU who elevates guns to "special status" If you looked in my tool bag when I'm out working on my carpentry jobs you would have a fit....(well the local cop would)

axes, nail gun
sharp (very) chisels
bill hooks
adze
knives that are illegal over here in any other scenario....(lock knives with 6 inch blades....)

my van, is whether I'm working or at leaisure likely to be a rolling mayhem machine to some one so inclined

its NOT the item......Its the mind of the owner/user that is the problem, and thus my repeated calls for vehicles to be treated with the same strictness as firearms

just ask yoursef this ...which (over here at least) kills/maims the most people

guns (or in fact weapons of ANY sort) or vehicles????

by nicko Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:45 am

Muslims are using cars to kill people by driving into them!

by eddie Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:03 pm

nicko wrote:Muslims are using cars to kill people by driving into them!

Do you mean the ONE Muslim fuckwit that killed people in France?
Not all Muslims.....

by nicko Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:41 pm

No edds, there have been a dozen or more in Israel, I only repeat what I have seen on tv. I NEVER make things up!

by eddie Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:42 pm

nicko wrote:No edds, there have been a dozen or more in Israel, I only repeat what I have seen on tv. I NEVER make things up!

They're using vehicles to drive into people?

by Guest Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:26 pm

No they don't, IDF shoot them in their cars and then when it veers because they are hit, pretend that is what was going to happen.

However, there are a huge number of instances, some of them having been filmed, of Settlers running over, injuring and killing, Palestinian children.

https://4palkids.org/petition-the-list/un-put-idf-on-violators-of-childrens-rights-list/children-violations/palestinians-run-over-by-idf-and-israeli-settlers-data-over-7-years/

ewish settler runs over 7-year-old Palestinian child near Hebron

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by eddie Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:33 pm

Well I thought I hadn't heard of Muslims using vehicles.

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