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Post by Syl Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:23 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4638154/Teenage-boy-16-charged-rape-eight-year-old-girl.html

Following on from the paedophile thread, could this boy be a paedophile.. or a very disturbed youngster possibly acting out what he's seen on the internet.

The little girl has gone through something that will probably affect her all her life, and what of him?


A teenage boy has been charged with the rape of an eight-year-old girl in a park.

Officers were called to Nuthurst Park in Moston, Greater Manchester, at around 6.55pm on Saturday night after reports the girl was found in tears after being raped and the offender had been chased off by members of the public.

The suspect, aged 16, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was arrested by police in a nearby shop on Saturday evening. 
Police said the boy has been remanded to appear in custody at Manchester Youth Court on Monday.
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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:43 pm

Syl wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4638154/Teenage-boy-16-charged-rape-eight-year-old-girl.html

Following on from the paedophile thread, could this boy be a paedophile.. or a very disturbed youngster possibly acting out what he's seen on the internet.

The little girl has gone through something that will probably affect her all her life, and what of him?


A teenage boy has been charged with the rape of an eight-year-old girl in a park.

Officers were called to Nuthurst Park in Moston, Greater Manchester, at around 6.55pm on Saturday night after reports the girl was found in tears after being raped and the offender had been chased off by members of the public.

The suspect, aged 16, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was arrested by police in a nearby shop on Saturday evening. 
Police said the boy has been remanded to appear in custody at Manchester Youth Court on Monday.

At 16 this boy knows right from wrong and should be able to control his urges. Probably exposed to porn from a young age.
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Post by magica Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:00 pm

I hope he goes to prison. He knows what his doing. My God, that poor little girl, what a terrible thing to happen to her. Bless her heart.
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Post by Syl Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:03 pm

I also think the likelihood is he has been exposed to online porn.

I was amazed how easy it was to access porn when I first went online.
I know my grandson who was 10 at the time had typed in a word and seen pics that turned my stomach...(I know because I typed in the same word) so God knows what it does to young minds seeing a steady stream of images that not long ago would have been behind the counter stuff for adults only.
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Post by Syl Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:05 pm

magica wrote:I hope he goes to prison.  He knows what his doing. My God, that poor little girl, what a terrible thing to happen to her. Bless her heart.

I hope he gets help Mags....and obviously he should be taken out of society and given therapy.....though God knows if it'll work.
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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:05 pm

Syl wrote:I also think the likelihood is he has been exposed to online porn.

I was amazed how easy it was to access porn when I first went online.
I know my grandson who was 10 at the time had typed in a word and seen pics that turned my stomach...(I know because I typed in the same word) so God knows what it does to young minds seeing a steady stream of images that not long ago would have been behind the counter stuff for adults only.

There's too much nasty stuff on TV too. That ghastly Human Centipede. I haven't watched it but I know someone who did and she was traumatized. God knows what that does to young minds.
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Post by Syl Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:26 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Syl wrote:I also think the likelihood is he has been exposed to online porn.

I was amazed how easy it was to access porn when I first went online.
I know my grandson who was 10 at the time had typed in a word and seen pics that turned my stomach...(I know because I typed in the same word) so God knows what it does to young minds seeing a steady stream of images that not long ago would have been behind the counter stuff for adults only.

There's too much nasty stuff on TV too.   That ghastly Human Centipede.  I haven't watched it but I know someone who did and she was traumatized.  God knows what that does to young minds.

I watched that a few years ago...it was utterly gross and has stayed with me ever since.
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Post by magica Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:40 pm

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magica wrote:I hope he goes to prison.  He knows what his doing. My God, that poor little girl, what a terrible thing to happen to her. Bless her heart.

I hope he gets help Mags....and obviously he should be taken out of society and given therapy.....though God knows if it'll work.

I hope the girl gets help, he made his choice, she didn't have one.
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Post by Syl Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:46 pm

magica wrote:
Syl wrote:

I hope he gets help Mags....and obviously he should be taken out of society and given therapy.....though God knows if it'll work.

I hope the girl gets help, he made his choice, she didn't have one.

The girl will get help and my heart bleeds for her.

The boy needs a different kind of help, if he doesn't get it there may be many more 8 year old girls in the future who will suffer because of him.
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Post by Raggamuffin Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:31 pm

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Syl wrote:I also think the likelihood is he has been exposed to online porn.

I was amazed how easy it was to access porn when I first went online.
I know my grandson who was 10 at the time had typed in a word and seen pics that turned my stomach...(I know because I typed in the same word) so God knows what it does to young minds seeing a steady stream of images that not long ago would have been behind the counter stuff for adults only.

There's too much nasty stuff on TV too.   That ghastly Human Centipede.  I haven't watched it but I know someone who did and she was traumatized.  God knows what that does to young minds.

A friend of mine watched that and told me how awful it is. I actually have the DVD, but I'm really not sure where it came from. So far, I haven't watched it, and I don't think I will. I'm really not sure about donating it to a charity shop though. Laughing
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Post by Syl Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:37 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

There's too much nasty stuff on TV too.   That ghastly Human Centipede.  I haven't watched it but I know someone who did and she was traumatized.  God knows what that does to young minds.

A friend of mine watched that and told me how awful it is. I actually have the DVD, but I'm really not sure where it came from. So far, I haven't watched it, and I don't think I will. I'm really not sure about donating it to a charity shop though. Laughing

Don't watch it, its really sickly.

I wouldn't give it to a charity shop...give it to someone you cant stand. Razz
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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:25 pm

Syl wrote:
HoratioTarr wrote:

There's too much nasty stuff on TV too.   That ghastly Human Centipede.  I haven't watched it but I know someone who did and she was traumatized.  God knows what that does to young minds.

I watched that a few years ago...it was utterly gross and has stayed with me ever since.

It's been shown on Film 4, FFS!
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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:29 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

A friend of mine watched that and told me how awful it is. I actually have the DVD, but I'm really not sure where it came from. So far, I haven't watched it, and I don't think I will. I'm really not sure about donating it to a charity shop though. Laughing

Don't watch it, its really sickly.

I wouldn't give it to a charity shop...give it to someone you cant stand. Razz

Sling it in the bin. I wouldn't inflict that on anyone.
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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:34 pm

Syl wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

A friend of mine watched that and told me how awful it is. I actually have the DVD, but I'm really not sure where it came from. So far, I haven't watched it, and I don't think I will. I'm really not sure about donating it to a charity shop though. Laughing

Don't watch it, its really sickly.

I wouldn't give it to a charity shop...give it to someone you cant stand. Razz

I believe the second one is worse than the first one and involves vindaloos!!     Sixteen year old boy charged with the rape of an eight year old girl. 53031?AWSAccessKeyId=1XXJBWHKN0QBQS6TGPG2&Expires=1503360000&Signature=Bg7FO92h2QUc2XYLpi0cCzVSKa0%3D
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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:45 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Syl wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4638154/Teenage-boy-16-charged-rape-eight-year-old-girl.html

Following on from the paedophile thread, could this boy be a paedophile.. or a very disturbed youngster possibly acting out what he's seen on the internet.

The little girl has gone through something that will probably affect her all her life, and what of him?


A teenage boy has been charged with the rape of an eight-year-old girl in a park.

Officers were called to Nuthurst Park in Moston, Greater Manchester, at around 6.55pm on Saturday night after reports the girl was found in tears after being raped and the offender had been chased off by members of the public.

The suspect, aged 16, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was arrested by police in a nearby shop on Saturday evening. 
Police said the boy has been remanded to appear in custody at Manchester Youth Court on Monday.

At 16 this boy knows right from wrong and should be able to control his urges.    Probably exposed to porn from a young age.  

No... most likely just a dangerous rapist and peado...


Anyone know what shop he was trying to hide out in...?

And if he had any other links to that particular shop and the people who worked there...?


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Post by magica Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:00 am

I heard about that film human centipede, it sounded gross, and it plays on my mind. It's sick. Who the hell makes these disgusting films.
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Post by Syl Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:14 pm

magica wrote:I heard about that film human centipede, it sounded gross, and it plays on my mind. It's sick. Who the hell makes these disgusting films.

It would play on your mind more if you ever watched it.

I think it was shown on Ch 4 extreme season a few years ago.....I like films that push boundaries, but this one was just totally gross.

Back to the 16 year old boy in the OP, and now sadly the other young man raping a four year old girl in Salford.
Porn is now so easily accessed, you don't need to watch a TV film....just go online and press a few keys, the most extreme images come up for all to see.
The detachment of human emotion, just seeing women as objects, obviously desensitises some young minds to the extent that even age doesn't matter when they decide to act out the stuff they see, and obviously the younger or more vulnerable the victim the easier it is for them.
They possibly are paedophiles, especially the 20 year old, but possibly the younger kids who rape children are just so dysfunctional they target anyone available.
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Post by magica Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:18 pm

So much violence as well. These films have a lot to answer for.

Maybe Mary Whitehouse was right afterall. She was before her time.
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Post by Syl Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:22 pm

magica wrote:So much violence as well. These films have a lot to answer for.

Mary Mary Whitehouse was right afterall. She was before her time.

She was the butt of a lot of jokes I remember Mags....but maybe she did go over the top in her moralising.
No doubt she would turn in her grave if she could see the world today I think.

Though lets not forget Savile and his cronies were at the height of their 'power' when she was active and on TV.
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Post by magica Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:28 pm

Yes I remember thinking she was batty old lady. Got on my nerves.

Maybe she heard about Savile, couldn't come out with it, so tried to have programmes more less sexy and violent.
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:12 pm

magica wrote:I hope he goes to prison.  He knows what his doing. My God, that poor little girl, what a terrible thing to happen to her. Bless her heart.

Do they sentence underaged kids to adult prison terms there? I know in the US states have provisions whereby kids can be tried as adults (and thus sentenced as adults). The only thing they can't do, is sentence them to the death penalty.

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Post by magica Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:18 pm

No he will be tried as a juvenile. They have places for them to go, used to be Borstal, until they reach 18 I think it is Quill, then they go to prison.

He should be tried as adult imo, he's done an adult crime.
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:26 pm

Here, kids as young as 8 - 9 can be tried as adults.

When they are put into the adult system, they are treated at adult facilities. I guess that's to feed the paedophiles in prison.

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Post by magica Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:02 pm

Kids of 8, I don't agree with that, as you say bloody nonce dream.
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:19 pm

Yeah, it leaves some people conflicted.  But some 8-year olds can look 16...or more.  I think some states limit it now:

PBS wrote:For those that did specify a minimum age, the most common (16 states) was age 14. Two states, Kansas and Vermont, set the minimum age as low as 10. In many states, once a juvenile is tried and convicted as an adult, he or she must be prosecuted in criminal court for any subsequent offenses.

In 1999, a brother and sister were convicted of killing their father’s girlfriend and they were 12 and 13 years old.  Before the turn of the century, it was widely held that children 7 years old and older were capable of criminal intent and were therefore punished as adults.  

Alaska, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia have no minimum age for the adult prosecution of children. Very young children are vulnerable to unfair pressure when accused of crimes. The absence of a minimum age also exposes very young children to being held in adult correctional facilities, where they are at increased risk of sexual, physical, and psychological abuse.

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Post by nicko Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:34 pm

"An 8 year old can look 16" Laughing
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:38 pm

Yeah...here's a brother and sister mentioned above:

Sixteen year old boy charged with the rape of an eight year old girl. Ht_Curtis_Catherine_Jones_wg_150723_12x5_1600



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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:40 pm

nicko wrote:"An 8 year old can look 16"  Laughing

I think that's going a bit far. Laughing
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Post by Syl Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:19 pm

Original Quill wrote:Yeah...here's a brother and sister mentioned above:

Sixteen year old boy charged with the rape of an eight year old girl. Ht_Curtis_Catherine_Jones_wg_150723_12x5_1600



Thats what they look like now, when they committed the crime they looked like this.Sixteen year old boy charged with the rape of an eight year old girl. 2AA9014D00000578-3166805-image-a-17_1437269829221
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:49 pm

Really? I guess looks can be deceiving. They were convicted of cold-blooded murder. There must have been a lot of anger...maybe a little racism. It was Florida, after all.

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Post by Raggamuffin Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:52 pm

Original Quill wrote:Really?  I guess looks can be deceiving.  They were convicted of cold-blooded murder.  There must have been a lot of anger...maybe a little racism.  It was Florida, after all.

The boy clearly wasn't 13 in that first picture.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:50 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Really?  I guess looks can be deceiving.  They were convicted of cold-blooded murder.  There must have been a lot of anger...maybe a little racism.  It was Florida, after all.

The boy clearly wasn't 13 in that first picture.

Nevertheless, he and his sister were convicted of murder at 12 and 13.

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:57 am

Original Quill wrote:
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The boy clearly wasn't 13 in that first picture.

Nevertheless, he and his sister were convicted of murder at 12 and 13.

Why wouldn't they be? Over here, the two boys who killed Jamie Bulger were convicted of murder, and they were 11.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:45 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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Nevertheless, he and his sister were convicted of murder at 12 and 13.

Why wouldn't they be? Over here, the two boys who killed Jamie Bulger were convicted of murder, and they were 11.

No argument here.  But we were talking, more specifically, about the issue of juveniles being tried as adults.  Had they been tried as juveniles, they would not have been convicted of murder, but of violation of the juvenile code.

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:38 pm

Original Quill wrote:
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Why wouldn't they be? Over here, the two boys who killed Jamie Bulger were convicted of murder, and they were 11.

No argument here.  But we were talking, more specifically, about the issue of juveniles being tried as adults.  Had they been tried as juveniles, they would not have been convicted of murder, but of violation of the juvenile code.

That would hardly have been appropriate, given what they did.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:16 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
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No argument here.  But we were talking, more specifically, about the issue of juveniles being tried as adults.  Had they been tried as juveniles, they would not have been convicted of murder, but of violation of the juvenile code.

That would hardly have been appropriate, given what they did.

Yep. That's what brings up the issue of treating juveniles as adults in the criminal justice system.

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Sixteen year old boy charged with the rape of an eight year old girl. Empty Re: Sixteen year old boy charged with the rape of an eight year old girl.

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