"ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST" - Watch Jane Elliott

Major wrote:

eddie wrote:It's his "blacks and whites can't mix" rubbish that I have a problem with.

But they will not completely mix ever eddie, look at the good old USA for example, look at the KKK, look here at the muzzzzzzzzzi problem, look at the whole world and the muzzzzzzzzi problem.
Look at those luvlee pakistani people and the indian nation, they do not exactly like each other.
Look at the American Indians, the Canadian Indians wiped out by the white man,

Whitiz and blacks do not, will not go well together.

eddie wrote:
See Veya, what you, and a lot of other people on this forum don't get is this; a lot of lefties who say they "love" multiculturalism and "love" other cultures and who "love" immigration... DO NOT ACTUALLY LIVE IT AT ALL!
They live in cosy villages and little areas of Britain where they're not actually affected by anything like lack of housing etc
They live in cosy areas of Britain where crime is low and they don't get burgled or mugged or have gangs of youths hanging around.
They live in cosy areas of Britain where they don't even actually mix with any person of a different colour and if they happen to - they think they are very diverse and left and liberal and they pat themselves on the back.

eddie wrote:Because 4ever asked me something.

4EVER2 wrote:I've been fascinated by this topic and as curious as I always am about prior thread and the members opinions - topic flow - direction that these topics take and how well they sustain the direction without becoming yet another Shit-Fest and tantrum/romper room for the children's fight club --- this one was off to a stupendous start and rolling right along!
Enjoyed reading the posts and exchanges of ideology ...just really sad & telling how rapidly it all went right into the 'CRAPPER' when Nicko managed to take it there

HoratioTarr wrote:

Major wrote:

Nope, in reality, "do others before they do you".

How old are you?   I mean, in all your years, haven't you gleaned any wisdom or sagacity?    You really are either on a  wind up, or genuinely a bigoted old miserable cuss.

eddie wrote:Yes I am saying that to an extent. That these little pockets of "nice little England" where you might have one little Indian couple running the local quaint post office (and how English they are!) are responsible for being one way or the other: they're either "we don't want to spoil our lovely white village" or they're "we have no problem with them coming because we don't have any in our village and they won't be placed here in this quiet little part of England so we can afford to be bloody generous!"

As to the OP - it was mainly aimed at the US by this woman, she seemed to think it was a very US thing.

It was her mantra of saying "You have to see colour" that interested me as I have always said it.

4EVER2 wrote:

eddie wrote:Yes I am saying that to an extent. That these little pockets of "nice little England" where you might have one little Indian couple running the local quaint post office (and how English they are!) are responsible for being one way or the other: they're either "we don't want to spoil our lovely white village" or they're "we have no problem with them coming because we don't have any in our village and they won't be placed here in this quiet little part of England so we can afford to be bloody generous!"

As to the OP - it was mainly aimed at the US by this woman, she seemed to think it was a very US thing.

It was her mantra of saying "You have to see colour" that interested me as I have always said it.

Hmmmm, well you used a video from a time from that went back  before the time of the discussion and the written posts up too Nicko's ugly diatribe were excellently quite on point.  You didn't signify that your intent then or now was regionally motivated and as with Veya's heart felt post ...it was about 'HIS' life - 'HIS' youth growing up in Australia!  Dam, fine reading!

nicko wrote:4ever2,   please get your facts right before slagging me off,   if you can, please post up where I have offended you.

4EVER2 wrote:

nicko wrote:4ever2,   please get your facts right before slagging me off,   if you can, please post up where I have offended you.

you seem to be getting lost in your topic hopping ...I've filled that request once already and I'm not your care taker -    after someone else - I've had quite enough of your abuse!

Major wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

How old are you?   I mean, in all your years, haven't you gleaned any wisdom or sagacity?    You really are either on a  wind up, or genuinely a bigoted old miserable cuss.

You should not be name calling HT as it is offensive and off topic.

If you had lived in my shoes do you not realise different things would have given you a different outlook on life, everyone of us has different experiences.
Example , I have only ever worked for Lizzy and myself, the latter being a 'dog eat dog' industry, both times twaz 'survival of the fittest'.
I forgive you for not being able to understand my life as you were not here.

Now we can get back on topic.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Major wrote:

You should not be name calling HT as it is offensive and off topic.

If you had lived in my shoes do you not realise different things would have given you a different outlook on life, everyone of us has different experiences.
Example , I have only ever worked for Lizzy and myself, the latter being a 'dog eat dog' industry, both times twaz 'survival of the fittest'.
I forgive you for not being able to understand my life as you were not here.

Now we can get back on topic.

You think you're the only one with life difficulties?  You know nothing about me other than what I reveal on here so I will continue to call you out for the racist homophobic bigot you are.    One thing I do know.   If someone has lived on this planet for as long as you have, and STILL can't find it in his heart and soul to offer a little compassion or at least try to see the viewpoint of those less privileged than yourself, different from yourself etc, then you're a fucking disgrace.

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

You think you're the only one with life difficulties?  You know nothing about me other than what I reveal on here so I will continue to call you out for the racist homophobic bigot you are.    One thing I do know.   If someone has lived on this planet for as long as you have, and STILL can't find it in his heart and soul to offer a little compassion or at least try to see the viewpoint of those less privileged than yourself, different from yourself etc, then you're a fucking disgrace.

Bloody well said and it's about time he was told.


As for the video, I absolutely get what she was saying, the only thing I disagree with her on is that there are people who have set out to acknowledge what is done and taught in the world and why coloured people (and women) feel the way they do, the causes of it, and have set out to change their viewpoint and ignore what they have been taught.  We also don't use the maps that she showed in our schools do we?   I never saw a map where Greenland was hugs and S.America was small.

HoratioTarr wrote:

sassy wrote:


Bloody well said and it's about time he was told.


As for the video, I absolutely get what she was saying, the only thing I disagree with her on is that there are people who have set out to acknowledge what is done and taught in the world and why coloured people (and women) feel the way they do, the causes of it, and have set out to change their viewpoint and ignore what they have been taught.  We also don't use the maps that she showed in our schools do we?   I never saw a map where Greenland was hugs and S.America was small.

I'm not getting the map thing either.  

eddie wrote:4ever please leave other posters alone especially if they're not even engaging with you on this thread. Telling how you're selective blinders have ignored the vile rants posted yet I've not said anything about any of 'THEM' and if Nicko can't handle what he creates - perhaps that's a lesson he needs to learn?  His jumping into a thread to ATTACK a member about that MEMBER and derailing the entire thread by doing so is on his own volition - no one forces him to behave that way, yet you've ignored him and his cheering squad as well

As for the fact the video is old - Erm so what??? Doesn't everyone harp on about HISTORY all the time? Veya always brings up history. As we all do - especially when we are discussing HISTORY - it's what HUMANS DO! 

And again, so what if its old? Doesn't make it any less interesting to me and I'd never seen it before. If it is "too old" for you to discuss, then don't discuss it. Playing at being OBTUSE: "TOO OLD", did you duck and my meaning flew over your head?  The age of the Video and your prior topic has loads of posted commentary that goes right into this discussion that 'YOU HAVE HAD BEFORE' ...but you either forgot the conversation or as with that inability to drive the haters off of the derailing, it went APE SHIT crazy and you just left it to spoil for lack of caring!

And again, again, so what if it's old? Doesn't make her points less valid for today in some parts of the US. Nope, didn't say the video or that woman speaking on Oprah's show was 'POINT LESS' ...but her point of view was very restricted for the topic that she chose to take on.  But it did garner her a entire program hour on OPRAH!

So moving along, what do you think about any of her points in the video?

As entertaining as this topic COULD BE, the fact that you're allowing several to do nothing but attack anyone that they enjoy trolling after when they can't stay on the TOPIC is exactly why so many decent topics get so F'd up.  And it just continues daily! 

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

I'm not getting the map thing either.  

I think at the time and previously, although I don't know if it is true today, it is the map that was used in USA schools and it definitely does project all mainly white countries as bigger and consequently the equator isn't across the middle of the map.

nicko wrote:I still don't know how i,v attacked 4ever,     perhaps some one could show me?

HoratioTarr wrote:

sassy wrote:


I think at the time and previously, although I don't know if it is true today, it is the map that was used in USA schools and it definitely does project all mainly white countries as bigger and consequently the equator isn't across the middle of the map.

I'm not surprised it was used in US schools.  One only has to watch movies like Independence Day where Mom's Apple Pie saves the world to know America is full of shit.   There's this Gung Ho arrogance permeating everything USA, or so it seems.   But what can one expect from a country that spells doughnut 'donut' and produces vile excretions like Krispy Kreme and Twinkies.  Even their chocolate tastes like doggy drops.   Now, they have a man named after a fart running for power.  There's really no hope....

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

I'm not surprised it was used in US schools.  One only has to watch movies like Independence Day where Mom's Apple Pie saves the world to know America is full of shit.   There's this Gung Ho arrogance permeating everything USA, or so it seems.   But what can one expect from a country that spells doughnut 'donut' and produces vile excretions like Krispy Kreme and Twinkies.  Even their chocolate tastes like doggy drops.   Now, they have a man named after a fart running for power.  There's really no hope....

Not quite what I meant.   Embrace diversity, because they don't like what you like doesn't make it bad, just different and we should be glad of differences, that is exactly what the video was saying lol

HoratioTarr wrote:

nicko wrote:I still don't know how i,v attacked 4ever,     perhaps some one could show me?

You know those  mad people who smear the walls with their own shite....?

HoratioTarr wrote:

sassy wrote:

Not quite what I meant.   Embrace diversity, because they don't like what you like doesn't make it bad, just different and we should be glad of differences, that is exactly what the video was saying lol

I know, don't take it seriously.   I don't.

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

You think you're the only one with life difficulties?  You know nothing about me other than what I reveal on here so I will continue to call you out for the racist homophobic bigot you are.    One thing I do know.   If someone has lived on this planet for as long as you have, and STILL can't find it in his heart and soul to offer a little compassion or at least try to see the viewpoint of those less privileged than yourself, different from yourself etc, then you're a fucking disgrace.

Bloody well said and it's about time he was told.


As for the video, I absolutely get what she was saying, the only thing I disagree with her on is that there are people who have set out to acknowledge what is done and taught in the world and why coloured people (and women) feel the way they do, the causes of it, and have set out to change their viewpoint and ignore what they have been taught.  We also don't use the maps that she showed in our schools do we?   I never saw a map where Greenland was hugs and S.America was small.

Major wrote:

sassy wrote:


Bloody well said and it's about time he was told.


As for the video, I absolutely get what she was saying, the only thing I disagree with her on is that there are people who have set out to acknowledge what is done and taught in the world and why coloured people (and women) feel the way they do, the causes of it, and have set out to change their viewpoint and ignore what they have been taught.  We also don't use the maps that she showed in our schools do we?   I never saw a map where Greenland was hugs and S.America was small.

Now Sassy has intervened, interfered, unnecessarily INFLAMED a situation started by one of her gang membuz.
I hate it when someone intentionally tries repeatedly to derail threads especially a good one as this is, I had the need to answer HT and now Sassy.
HT, no need for the effing.

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

You know those  mad people who smear the walls with their own shite....?

Yes, they are normally protesting something important.

However, 4Ever wouldn't do it like that, she is far too intelligent and good with words.

Major wrote:

sassy wrote:


Bloody well said and it's about time he was told.


As for the video, I absolutely get what she was saying, the only thing I disagree with her on is that there are people who have set out to acknowledge what is done and taught in the world and why coloured people (and women) feel the way they do, the causes of it, and have set out to change their viewpoint and ignore what they have been taught.  We also don't use the maps that she showed in our schools do we?   I never saw a map where Greenland was hugs and S.America was small.

Now Sassy has intervened, interfered, unnecessarily INFLAMED a situation started by one of her gang membuz.
I hate it when someone intentionally tries repeatedly to derail threads especially a good one as this is, I had the need to answer HT and now Sassy.
HT, no need for the effing.

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

I know, don't take it seriously.   I don't.

I do, because nations are being taught racism and being taught that their way is the one right way and everything else is inferior, and that is what makes this world such a horrible, violent place.

HoratioTarr wrote:

sassy wrote:


I do, because nations are being taught racism and being taught that their way is the one right way and everything else is inferior, and that is what makes this world such a horrible, violent place.

FFS!  I'm talking about my Krispy Kreme comments

sassy wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

FFS!  I'm talking about my Krispy Kreme comments

Sorry, communication misunderstanding!

HoratioTarr wrote:

Major wrote:

Now Sassy has intervened, interfered, unnecessarily INFLAMED a situation started by one of her gang membuz.
I hate it when someone intentionally tries repeatedly to derail threads especially a good one as this is, I had the need to answer HT and now Sassy.
HT, no need for the effing.

You deserve to be effed and frequently.

eddie wrote:Yes I am saying that to an extent. That these little pockets of "nice little England" where you might have one little Indian couple running the local quaint post office (and how English they are!) are responsible for being one way or the other: they're either "we don't want to spoil our lovely white village" or they're "we have no problem with them coming because we don't have any in our village and they won't be placed here in this quiet little part of England so we can afford to be bloody generous!"

As to the OP - it was mainly aimed at the US by this woman, she seemed to think it was a very US thing.

It was her mantra of saying "You have to see colour" that interested me as I have always said it.

eddie wrote:Anyway!

I didn't get the map thing bit Les explained it somewhere up there ^^^^^

Major wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

You deserve to be effed and frequently.

You have certainly put a question mark against your breeding with such a foul mouth, do you speak like this away from forums?

Major wrote:i have been to places in this country where in some areas a whitee is a rarity,
If non whitez were to a problem, issue, why is it the most spoken about subject on the internet, countrywide, Europewide and worldwide?
I do not know 1 person who wants these forunuz here who cannot sustain themselves and families, where is the sense of it?

Major wrote:i have been to places in this country where in some areas a whitee is a rarity,
If non whitez were to a problem, issue, why is it the most spoken about subject on the internet, countrywide, Europewide and worldwide?
I do not know 1 person who wants these forunuz here who cannot sustain themselves and families, where is the sense of it?

eddie wrote:Thank you wolf, an actual post that addresses the OP.

I think she's a bit OTT but her reasoning behind it all is that we are taught to be racist (she speaks mainly of Amercian culture tbf hence the world map "lie").   She claims that white Americans are taught from a young age through an educational programme to only see White's as superior.

She rubbishes the claim  that white people "don't see colour" and rather than that being a comfort to a black or Asian person, is actually a way of saying "I don't see your colour so I make you the same as me": But black people are not the same as white people, not on the inside and not on the outside and rather than pretending these differences dont exist, we should celebrate and accept them as different.

I was really hoping someone would address this issue with me as I have been saying for ages and ages (and so do all the black and Asians I know) that to NOT be racist IS TO SEE THE COLOUR.

I have said over and over, of course you must see the colour, to not do so is denying who someone is.

Not one person ever understood that on this forum, yet she was saying it years ago.

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