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TURKEY -- Aborted Coup attempt
(The aborted military coup in Turkey is a matter of great international importance....
Why can't we have a serious discussion on here -- a supposed news, events and current affairs discussion site (?) -- without threads degenerating into a shitfest over some irrelevant little personality over there, who simply isn't part of the equation for most contributors on here ???
Two threads locked already, and a third running downhill..
Anyways.. ).
TURKEY is the 18th largest economy in the world.
Last year it's military was ranked 10th in the world; (Israel was #12).
Turkey is a member of NATO, with the EU it's largest trading partner.
Turkey straddles Europe and the Middle East.
It is the most powerful military power in it's immediate region.
And it is an important trade route between the East and West; and a major nexus for the import of energy resources from the Middle East and Asia into Europe.
ANY CIVIL unrest, military coups, or terrorist activities within Turkey have far more reaching impacts and potential threats on peace and trade, then pointless squabbling and attempted point-scoring by a few over someone's froends and acquaintances there at the time..
Why can't we have a serious discussion on here -- a supposed news, events and current affairs discussion site (?) -- without threads degenerating into a shitfest over some irrelevant little personality over there, who simply isn't part of the equation for most contributors on here ???
Two threads locked already, and a third running downhill..
Anyways.. ).
TURKEY is the 18th largest economy in the world.
Last year it's military was ranked 10th in the world; (Israel was #12).
Turkey is a member of NATO, with the EU it's largest trading partner.
Turkey straddles Europe and the Middle East.
It is the most powerful military power in it's immediate region.
And it is an important trade route between the East and West; and a major nexus for the import of energy resources from the Middle East and Asia into Europe.
ANY CIVIL unrest, military coups, or terrorist activities within Turkey have far more reaching impacts and potential threats on peace and trade, then pointless squabbling and attempted point-scoring by a few over someone's froends and acquaintances there at the time..
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Re: TURKEY -- Aborted Coup attempt
The immediate impact upon our military base - the future of our movements into Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan ...the entire process to eradicate ISIL from their strong holds upon those innocent citizens; this is a huge MESS!
Live updates: Turkey military coup attempt
By Katie Hunt, Madison Park and Ralph Ellis, Lauren Said-Moorhouse, CNN
Updated 8:54 AM ET, Sat July 16, 2016
(CNN)After a night of explosions, gunfire and tanks rolling along the streets of Istanbul and Ankara, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told Turkey Saturday that an attempted military coup was over and the government was in charge.
Here is what we know so far:
- At least 161 people died and another 1,440 people were injured across the country.
- Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said at a press conference Saturday the situation was under control
- A total of 2,839 military officers have been detained, a source in the President's office said
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/world/live-blog-turkey/index.html
Stability in Turkey: How crucial is it?
CNN global affairs analyst Kimberley Dozier says Turkey is one of the key parts of the
U.S. and coalition campaign formed to fight against ISIS. She says the coalition need
Turkey to stabilize and seal up the border so that ISIS can’t get in new foreign
fighters to replenish their numbers.
She said: "U.S. military officials tell me they (ISIS) have been trying to get out of the
area of Manbij -- that is a city that is under siege right near the Turkish border by
U.S.-backed Syrian rebels.
"It has been serving as a transit point for ISIS fighters – a call center to raise funds
and bring in new recruits. The fact that the transit center is there tells you that there
is a wider network inside Turkey of ISIS fighters, ISIS supporters."
Dozier continued that with the coup attempt overnight, Turkish intelligence
services will be more focused on finding more coup plotters rather than on tracking
down these ISIS supporters who may have slipped across the border
"And that is a bad thing for the U.S. coalition's plans," Dozier said.
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IRONIC and such insight from my surprise visitor last evening; the neighbors host foreigner exchange students each year and the young lady from France was here 4 years back ...she became a very frequent visitor to our home! My familiar face {resembled her dear mother} provided her with a great amount of solace when her homesickness was at it's highest level. Will she befriended me on FB prior to her departure and she'd hinted that her - her parents were flying into California and would be 'possibly' making their way to Colorado and if time allowed back here to this little berg of a rural town. Well, she walked over last evening to surprise me; we had such a lovely visit and she popped back over again this morning - right after I'd finished my chicken chores; her parents trying to connect with family that were taking their elderly mother to the Bastille celebration and spending time in & around Nice this week.News France Truck Attack
Jul 16 2016, 12:20 pm ET
Nice Truck Attack: Five Detained as Grief Turns to Anger
by Cassandra Vinograd
NICE, France — Five people have been arrested over the Nice truck massacre, French prosecutors said Saturday amid grief and anger that authorities failed to thwart yet another mass attack in this already-grieving nation.
At least 84 people were killed and 200 injured when a truck driver used his vehicle as a weapon and cut a trail of terror through Bastille Day revelers after a fireworks display.
French President Francois Hollande called Thursday night's attack "undeniably terrorist in nature." However, prosecutors said the driver, Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, wasn't known to intelligence services.
Bouhlel, a 31-year-old Tunisian living in Nice, was known to police for "threats, violence and petty theft," according to prosecutor Francois Molins. He was convicted in March and given a six-month suspended sentence for a road-rage incident involving a wooden pallet but was never on a watch list.
Video Shows Cops Firing on Nice Truck Attacker 0:49
For reasons still unclear, Bouhlel climbed into a 19-ton white refrigerated truck and maneuvered it onto the packed Promenade des Anglais, hit the gas and sent bodies flying on a 1.2-mile rampage before he was shot dead by police.
French interior minister Bernard Cazeneuve said Saturday that, based on early investigations, Bouhel "appears to have become radicalized very quickly."
"Individuals who are sensitive to [ISIS'] message commit extremely violent actions, without necessarily having taken part in fighting, without necessarily having been trained," he told reporters after a government security meeting.
Flowers and tributes were left at barricades on the seafront Saturday as France observed three days of national mourning, the truck no longer in sight.
Clusters of police remained on the Promenade, watching over the scene and the crowds. Memorials to the victims grew by the minute. At one, a table was set up for people to write messages of solidarity.
"Our thoughts with Nice. Love from Liverpool, Baghdad and Syria," one man wrote on his sheet of white paper.
Not far down the promenade, friends Annie Trevelly and Valerie Mygardon stood at the barrier looking out at the sea next to two bouquets of flowers.
"What a tragedy," said Trevelly, 57. "Poor France, poor us."
"Poor France," Mygardon, 47, agreed.
American Doctor in Nice Recalls Chaotic Scene Moments After Truck Attack 2:05
The two friends live two blocks from where the truck was brought to a stop. Normally, they would have gone out for the fireworks but Mygardon had a headache.
Trevelly told NBC News that, from the apartment, she could hear people screaming "run, run."
"It's unthinkable — unbelievable. It's just beyond belief," she said. "That someone could do this — drive this ... It's beyond belief."
As she spoke, her sadness turned to anger that police and security services had failed her city.
"There are specialists — they should have known," she gasped. "After what happened in Paris ... They should have done more to stop this!"
Mygardon, who appeared to be in shock, agreed. "They killed our children here — children," she said. "It pains us — this is a huge wound."
"People shouldn't have to become accustomed to attacks"
Their views were echoed by many in Nice on Saturday as the city slowly started trying to return to normal.
Tourists were back on the streets and beaches reopened.
The Promenade des Anglais, too, was open. Flowers marked bloodstains still visible on the pavement, a gut-wrenching reminder of the tragedy amid swirling questions.
How could the truck have gotten past security, how the driver was able to continue for so far before he was stopped? How did officials not prevent it?
The country was already reeling from Charlie Hebdo attacks in January 2015 and the Nov. 13 siege on Paris that left 130 dead. The terror spree in neighboring Belgium and a known threat to the recent Euro 2016 soccer tournament had authorities on high alert.
In the hours after the attack, Hollande extended the state of emergency he implemented in November and called up thousands of reservists — moves that many in Nice said was not enough.
The president's convoy was reportedly booed as it drove through the city, reflecting frustration and anger over his perceived failure to address the threat of terrorism.
Regional council president Christian Estrosi wrote an open letter in the Nice Matin newspaper, calling France's current leadership "incapable" and saying his call for security to be reinforced ahead of the fireworks display had been rebuffed.
Opposition politician and former prime minister Alain Juppe told RTL radio that not enough had been changed in wake of the Paris attacks. "If all measures had been taken, the tragedy ... would not have happened," said Juppe, according to the AFP news agency.
Rodolphe Auvergne, 18, could not agree more. Riding his bike down the Nice promenade just after 2 a.m. local time, he stopped to read a note pinned to the barricades with flowers.
The teen lives in Paris but is vacationing in Nice and saw panicked crowds fleeing the carnage.
Rodolphe Auvergne. Cassandra Vinograd / NBC News
"It was hard — especially after the Bataclan," he said, referring to the nightclub in Paris where dozens were killed in November. "I think France is turning to a bad direction."
He called for more security measures, accusing French officials of paying only lip service to the problem. "It didn't stop. It's not doing anything," he said. "The government isn't doing enough."
Auvergne told NBC News that he has been scared to ride the metro since the Paris attacks.
"Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan, now Nice. Where will the next attack be? We are not secure ... we live in fear," he said passionately. "I don't think it's right for people to live like this ... People shouldn't have to become accustomed to attacks. They need to make changes, and fast."
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/france-truck-attack/nice-truck-attack-five-detained-grief-turns-anger-n610701
I DO NOT SPEAK FRENCH, but there's a whole lot of rapid fire emotions going back & forth via the skype function on my PC and their lap top and those humans ...I'm just staying over in the sectional enjoying the atmosphere and lovely language.
But the jest of their feelings and frustrations from friends and family that they've been able to track down via FB and other internet connections has been interesting to watch. Seems the locals are highly FED UP with how the authorities have reacted - should have had that area better protected, given the most recent other horrible attacks and that while the posters and other printed material 'promised a safe holiday, so come out - attend the celebration' ...there seemed a serious disconnect between what the residents were being told and what security and the response teams were really doing.
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