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Post by eddie Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:00 am

If You Like Obama, You’ll Love Trump

Oh what fun we have with the nonsense that flows out of the mouth of Donald J. Trump. The man is suffocatingly banal, racist, dishonest, inarticulate, uninformed, uneducated, narcissistic, a bully, just plain stupid… or in the immortal words of my people — a schmuck!

I would guess that as the boss of his own enterprises for many years, with the power and the habit of firing people, he eventually became deeply accustomed to not having his thoughts seriously questioned or challenged, to the extent that he really believes the crap that comes out of his mouth and doesn’t really understand what others actually think of him.

But if we look at what comes out of the mouth of The Barack is there any reason to castigate The Donald for his supposedly outrageous or weird way of expressing himself? Here’s a sample:

— On numerous occasions, in reply to a question about why his administration has not prosecuted the Bush-Cheney gang for mass murder, torture and other war crimes, former law professor Obama has stated: “I prefer to look forward rather than backwards.” Picture a defendant before a judge asking to be found innocent of any crime on such grounds. On other occasions, Obama, without apparent embarrassment, has stated that “nobody is above the law”. (A public figure can be labeled stupid not just for saying or doing stupid things, but for not even realizing that the public will SEE his words or actions as stupid.)

— Asked whether he would apologize for Washington’s role in Chile’s 1973 military coup which overthrew the democratically elected government and replaced it with a dictatorship, Obama replied: “I’m interested in going forward, not looking backward. I think that the United States has been an enormous force for good in the world.” (June 23, 2009)

— Question from CNN, 2008: “Do you think the US should apologize for any mistakes that it has made in the past?” Obama’s reply: “I don’t think the US should ever apologize for anything.”

— Obama’s speech to the UN General Assembly on September 24, 2014 where he classified Russia to be one of the three great threats to the world along with the Islamic State and the ebola virus.

— Obama’s declaration that ISIS “has nothing to do with Islam”. This is standard political correctness which ignores the indisputable role played by Islam in inspiring Orlando and Long Beach and Paris and Ankara and many other massacres; it is the religion that teaches the beauty and godliness of jihad and the heavenly rewards of suicide bombings.

— After Turkey’ intentional shoot-down of a Russian warplane along the Turkish-Syrian border, instead of rebuking Turkey, a NATO member, for its absolutely reckless behavior –- or expressing sympathy to the Russians -– Obama asserted that “Turkey, like every country, has a right to defend its territory and its airspace.”(November 24, 2015) Turkey later apologized to Russia, but Obama didn’t.

— In September 2013 Obama stood before the United Nations and declared: “I believe America is exceptional.”

— On March 9, 2015 Obama declared Venezuela “an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States”.

— Obama spoke of “the principle that no country has the right to send in troops to another country unprovoked” (March 3, 2014) (Do our leaders have no memory or do they think we’ve all lost ours?)

— “I’m good at killing.” (Just imagine Trump saying this.) Obama has claimed the power to murder anyone anywhere by drone. Nixon had an enemies list, but this drone king has a personal kill list. Obama’s use of drones against jihadist leaders, and anyone else who happens to be too close, has essentially rescinded the leading principle that was established in the Magna Carta 800 years ago — the presumption of innocence.

— Imagine also The Donald joking — as Obama did — about using a drone on his daughters’ boyfriends: “They’ll never know what hit them.”

— Obama, State of the Union speech, 2012: “This generation of heroes has made the United States safer and more respected around the world.”

— On May 28, 2012 the president declared that Vietnam was “one of the most extraordinary stories of bravery and integrity in the annals of [US] military history”.

— After taking over the White House in 2009, Obama called Afghanistan the “good war”


Much more in the link http://www.globalresearch.ca/if-you-like-obama-youll-love-trump/5534834

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Post by Guest Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:44 pm

If You Like Obama, You'll Love Trump! 371740092   
WOWSERS, you do go out of the way to find some really 'I Hate Obama' trashing blogger printed pages; well each to their own forms of entertainment. Rolling Eyes
But much like falling for anything that 'Faux News' would submit - without verifying that limited information with a responsible fact source ...this blogger/anti-POTUS Obama - Mr. Blum has had his share of American Wind Mills to chase!

But what sets this man eons above other 'I Hate Obama Bloggers' is the notoriety he received in 2006 from no other then Osama Bin Laden >
In early 2006, Blum briefly became the subject of widespread media attention when Osama bin Laden issued a public statement in which he quoted Blum and recommended that all Americans read Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Blum
Granted, this duffus has taken the time to pull selected snippets of selected speeches given by our POTUS at special events - places he was asked to speak at; so, yes ...it feasible that those lines were spoken at those specific occasions - regarding a specific honorary ...  Suspect   

Unlike the  If You Like Obama, You'll Love Trump! 3755771736  rapid mental drool that just falls out of 'Cheeto-Jesus' brain-through-his-mouth and onto his adoring mindless followers If You Like Obama, You'll Love Trump! 2190311264   

But once this entire 2016 election is tucked safely away in the history books, chances are the only speaking engagements 'cheeto-Jesus' will be asked to are those 'red-necked/good ole' boys' annual BBQ when they garner enough funds and consume enough beer to want to reminisce with the memory of 'we could have had our time in the lime light' {woulda/shoulda/coulda} and send ole' comb over a special invitation to come speak.  All the beer, you can consume - BBQ you can eat - and be sure to drag along all of those great looking women folk you hang around with too - cause we like our young'ns especially our daughters looking that sexy! If You Like Obama, You'll Love Trump! 202592697

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Post by eddie Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:23 pm

What's considered "faux news" to you? Are you saying none of those facts are right?

Also, if you think Obama is perfect I think you've had the wool pulled over your eyes!
Like with lots of big political careers, once they've left their positions and stepped down, we find out the truth anyway.
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Post by 'Wolfie Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:42 pm

Suspect

WHAT "facts" would that be then, eddie ?

ALL that that anti-Democrat/pro-Trump puff piece shows is a collection of disembodied quotes..

No context;
No background;
No rationale..


DO YOU even understand what a 'fact' actually is, eddie ?
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Post by Guest Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:43 pm

eddie wrote:What's considered "faux news" to you?
Are you saying none of those facts are right?
Also, if you think Obama is perfect I think you've had the wool pulled over your eyes!
Like with lots of big political careers, once they've left their positions and stepped down, we find out the truth anyway.
Do you even know anything about William Blum?  Have your read anything that he's actually published? Or this article just triggered something pleasing to your sense of humor and you thought it worthy of discussion? 
So I'm discussing it - this human has a HUGE ideology that some might say is geared toward - being a TRAITOR to his own country - ie outing over 200+ CIA agents {disclosing their name & addresses circa 1969} shortly after his employment with the State Dept. was terminated.  Suspect
clipped from your OP'd > Oh what fun we have with the nonsense that flows out of the mouth of Donald J. Trump. The man is suffocatingly banal, racist, dishonest, inarticulate, uninformed, uneducated, narcissistic, a bully, just plain stupid… or in the immortal words of my people — a schmuck!
1.) you've provided a blogger's POV = editorial with just his own highly twisted - opinionated slant on things
2.) I do agree with his encapsulated POV regarding 'cheeto-Jesus' = because that's been a proven factual - well documented event anytime that 'cheeto-Jesus' is standing upright before an open microphone
3.) THERE ARE ZERO FACTS for any of the rest of his blog; he's taken snippets of speeches that our POTUS was giving and arranged them in some 'whatever' order as if our POTUS has no intelligence ...and nothing - NOTHING could be further from the truth.

So what's the POINT? 
There isn't one; William Blum is lamely trying to compare what few snippets for specific speeches - given for specific occasions by our POTUS, as if our POTUS is comparison to 'cheeto-Jesus' ...not comparable in anyway/shape or form.

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Post by eddie Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:44 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Suspect

WHAT "facts" would that be then,  eddie ?

ALL that that anti-Democrat/pro-Trump puff piece shows is a collection of disembodied quotes..

No context;
No background;
No rationale..


DO YOU even understand what a 'fact' actually is, eddie  ?

Aren't the quotes themselves, facts? Those are the facts I'm referring too.
If I find a "trump is a big bad wolf" article, would you believe the quotes in that?

Don't shoot the messenger, I only copied the article over.
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Post by Original Quill Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:25 pm

eddie wrote:On numerous occasions, in reply to a question about why his administration has not prosecuted the Bush-Cheney gang for mass murder, torture and other war crimes, former law professor Obama has stated: “I prefer to look forward rather than backwards.” Picture a defendant before a judge asking to be found innocent of any crime on such grounds. On other occasions, Obama, without apparent embarrassment, has stated that “nobody is above the law”. (A public figure can be labeled stupid not just for saying or doing stupid things, but for not even realizing that the public will SEE his words or actions as stupid.)

I was publicly critical of Dr. Obama for his position on the non-prosecution of former-vp Richard Cheney.  His actions were crimes before he did them, so it cannot be excused on the basis of criminalizing political acts.

In particular, this deliberate ignoring of the facts flies in the face of vigorous efforts to prosecute Edward Snowden.  Mr. Snowden allegedly only committed a violation of the Espionage Act.  Mr. Cheney was guilty of actual war crimes.

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Post by Original Quill Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:29 pm

eddie wrote:— Asked whether he would apologize for Washington’s role in Chile’s 1973 military coup which overthrew the democratically elected government and replaced it with a dictatorship, Obama replied: “I’m interested in going forward, not looking backward. I think that the United States has been an enormous force for good in the world.” (June 23, 2009)

— Question from CNN, 2008: “Do you think the US should apologize for any mistakes that it has made in the past?” Obama’s reply: “I don’t think the US should ever apologize for anything.”

These are basically academic questions, as they involve history not policy.

Dr. Obama works presently in the active arena of politics. He has to look after policy, not history.

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Post by Original Quill Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:32 pm

eddie wrote:— After Turkey’ intentional shoot-down of a Russian warplane along the Turkish-Syrian border, instead of rebuking Turkey, a NATO member, for its absolutely reckless behavior –- or expressing sympathy to the Russians -– Obama asserted that “Turkey, like every country, has a right to defend its territory and its airspace.”(November 24, 2015) Turkey later apologized to Russia, but Obama didn’t.

— In September 2013 Obama stood before the United Nations and declared: “I believe America is exceptional.”

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Post by Original Quill Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:40 pm

eddie wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Suspect

WHAT "facts" would that be then,  eddie ?

ALL that that anti-Democrat/pro-Trump puff piece shows is a collection of disembodied quotes..

No context;
No background;
No rationale..


DO YOU even understand what a 'fact' actually is, eddie  ?

Aren't the quotes themselves, facts? Those are the facts I'm referring too.

Actually, they are not facts, because the cherry-picked words are removed from the context in which they appeared.  Many are simply laudatory of history.  Big deal.  

Some are political--remember Dr. Obama was/is the hated 'black' president; very often he had to go overboard in order to answer hostile questions from a RW audience, thus appearing to make RW statements.  

I find only two areas in which Obama could be called to task...and each time I called him to task: these are 1) non-prosecution of GWB administration for war crimes; and 2) use of drones.  The rest are explained by reference to context.

In contrast, we don't need to remove the words of Donald Trump from context in order to be shocked. Shocking words are how he has gained attention. Untruthful words are how he has gained favor with a population that refuses to believe a fact-based reality. He intends his mendacity as a part of the show.

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Post by eddie Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:41 pm

At least you answered properly.
Thanks.
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Post by Guest Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:55 pm

eddie wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Suspect

WHAT "facts" would that be then,  eddie ?

ALL that that anti-Democrat/pro-Trump puff piece shows is a collection of disembodied quotes..

No context;
No background;
No rationale..


DO YOU even understand what a 'fact' actually is, eddie  ?

Aren't the quotes themselves, facts? Those are the facts I'm referring too.
If I find a "trump is a big bad wolf" article, would you believe the quotes in that?

Don't shoot the messenger, I only copied the article over.
And that folks is exactly how the 'talking head' at 'Faux News' media slide by with all of their lame/lazy method of fakery and piss poor reporting ...never delve into asking for proof - just report the emotionally driven hype that will - maybe keep their ratings up!  Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:12 pm

eddie wrote:What's considered "faux news" to you? Are you saying none of those facts are right?

Also, if you think Obama is perfect I think you've had the wool pulled over your eyes!
Like with lots of big political careers, once they've left their positions and stepped down, we find out the truth anyway.

Most of them are superficially true but are either missing context or spun the most negative way possible.

For example -- if Obama ever apologized for anything the U.S. did, the Republican Party would be on him like piranhas on a raw steak.

This list is even confused in a partisan sense -- the failure to prosecute Bush-era figures is from the left, while a few entries later, we see him being accused of being a jihadist sympathizer, which is what the right believes.

It's essentially an epic, furious example of over-the-top Obama Derangement Syndrome.
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Post by veya_victaous Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:48 pm

Even if he is duplicitous I don't see how that would make you like a racist dumb ass like Trump confused
It acts like the fact the trump is liar is the only problem, not that everything about him is a problem
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