Dear Barack: Why Ahmed, But Not Hallel

by Guest Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:36 pm

On September 14, 2015, 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed, was arrested at MacArthur High School in Irving, TX, for bringing an alleged fake bomb to school. He claimed that it was a pencil box filled with reassembled clock parts. His teacher thought it resembled a bomb and called the authorities. This led to his eventual suspension from his high school.
Enter the national mainstream media. The story quickly went viral, and led to another soul-searching discussion of how Islamophobic America is (“See Something, Say Something” be damned). #IStandWithAhmed became a worldwide trending hashtag, and tech companies flooded Ahmed with offers of jobs, internships, tours, and other gifts.
Then, two days later, at 12:58 PM, Ahmed got a Willy Wonka golden ticket:

President Obama ✔ @POTUS
Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House? We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It's what makes America great.

(Please note that his tweet got an monumental 417,171 retweets.)
The President, always ready to shame and guilt America, tweeted “Cool clock, Ahmed” and offered him a chance to visit the White House. Obama, who once famously claimed police “acted stupidly,” and that Trayvon Martin could have been his son, leapt at the chance to indict the country he leads of being racist and Islamophobic.
Lost in the #IStandWithAhmed frenzy was the story headlined “Ahmed’s Sister Admits School Suspension for Alleged Bomb Threat 3 Years Earlier.” Fox News also uncovered the fact that his father pushed 9/11 conspiracy theories online:

[Megyn] Kelly reported that a controversial 9/11 conspiracy theory Facebook post from Mohamed’s father, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, first caught her attention.
Reporter Trace Gallagher said it appears the dad operates two different Facebook pages. On his personal page, he reported, the elder Mohamed wrote about how “killing without rightness” is prohibited by Islam. But there’s also apparently an Arabic Facebook page that also appears to be run by Elhassan Mohamed.
“There’s also an Arabic Facebook page for the National Reform Party, a political party started by Elhassan Mohamed, bearing a similar profile picture and address,” Gallagher explained. “Only, this webpage is much more active and the tone is very different, including a 14-minute conspiracy theory clip on the 9/11 terrorist attacks and a post that shows the smoking World Trade towers, describing as a U.S.-sponsored hoax to launch a world war against Islam and Muslims.”

No matter. Obama got to insult his own country and the media made a folk hero out of someone who later moved to Qatar and, with a scholarship from the Qatar Foundation for Education, went to Qatar Academy. Last week, he and his family returned to the United States.
Kevin Williamson precisely summed up the incident for National Review:

Mohamed’s father says that his son was mistreated because the incident happened a few days after the annual commemoration of the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, and because his name is Mohamed. The story immediately became ubiquitous not because of what actually happened — boneheaded as that was — but because it can be used to further a story that the media already want to tell: that the United States is morally corrupt and irredeemably racist; that Muslims are under siege; that “white privilege” blinds the majority of Americans to the corruption at the heart of everything red, white, and blue. Muslim kid meets paranoia in Texas is A-1 copy; NRA-wearing kid meets paranoia in West Virginia, not so much.

Dear Barack: Why Ahmed, But Not Hallel 160630-hallel-yaffa-ariel-mbe-638p_c61fd9d20dfe277b79dbcc84d98731c1.nbcnews-ux-600-700-325x330

On June 30, 2016, 13-year-old Hallel Ariel was stabbed to death in her bed by a 17-year-old Palestinian terrorist. Her only crime was sleeping. The murder, which shocked Israelis and which Palestinians celebrated, was barely a blip on worldwide social media. In an increasingly anti-Semitic and Jew-hating world, a savage murder of a sleeping teenage girl barely moves the needle.
Remember that President Obama tweeted to Ahmed at 12:58 PM, two days after his incident.

I am writing this article at 12:58 PM, two days after Hallel was slaughtered. There has been no tweet from @POTUS. I didn’t expect one, and knew I would be writing this article. It is still gross to see what subjects the President uses his bully pulpit to draw attention to, in attempts to shame America.

Not even the fact that Ariel had dual American and Israeli citizenship causes our President to use a single keystroke to condemn her murder. A murder by a Palestinian. I have long contended that Obama is always on the wrong side of issues and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is Exhibit A. He hates Israel, despises Benjamin Netanyahu, and has little to no use for Jews. A condemnation of Hallel’s murder might anger the Palestinians, and Obama can’t have any part of that.

Sadly, President Obama can’t invite Hallel Ariel to the White House, and he certainly won’t invite her parents. That coveted invitation is saved for parents unworthy of the invite…

https://ricochet.com/dear-barack-ahmed-not-hallel/

The sooner this world stands up to this virus called lefist the better for the good of the world.
They are no champions of the oppressed but back the oppressors at every turn, its vile and sick on every single level.

by Ben Reilly Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:13 pm

Did Cameron issue a statement on the murder of Hallel Ariel?

by Guest Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:33 pm

Punditfact, a branch of Politifact, has put together profiles for CNN, MSNBC and Fox News detailing just how honest each of these networks are. And while it’s obviously not a completely comprehensive profile (it would be nearly impossible to fact check every single thing said on each network) it’s a decent measure of the honesty of each.
And what do you know, Pundifact found Fox News to have only told the truth 18 percent (15 of 83) of the time for the statements they checked. And even of that 18 percent, only 8 percent of what they said was completely “True.” The other 10 percent was rated as “Mostly True.”
A staggering 60 percent (50 of 83) comments were found to be either “Mostly False,” “False,” or “Pants on Fire.”
The other 22 percent were rated “Half True.”
Essentially well over half of what Punditfact has fact-checked on Fox News has been a lie and only 18 percent has been deemed factual.
To compare, CNN was found to have been honest about 60 percent of the time, while only having 18 percent of their comments found to be false. As for MSNBC, they were found to have been honest about 31 percent of the time, while 48 percent of the comments they had fact-checked were deemed untrue.
So while MSNBC’s numbers aren’t exactly worth bragging about, they’re still far better than the “fair and balanced” Fox News.
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fact-checking-site-finds-fox-news-tells-truth-18-percent-time/

This is sad, Didge ...that for someone that prides himself on 'non-biased faith biased' open mindedness; you drag such utter BS and biased waste of bandwidth in here and attempt to pass it off as factual news worthy for comment ...while broad brushing it with "ANTI - LEFTY" comments Evil or Very Mad

Clipped from your C & P right leaning Blog >
The President, always ready to shame and guilt America, tweeted “Cool clock, Ahmed” and offered him a chance to visit the White House. Obama, who once famously claimed police “acted stupidly,” and that Trayvon Martin could have been his son, leapt at the chance to indict the country he leads of being racist and Islamophobic.

And as pathetic as your blogger was in his lame approach to roll all of his vile ill regard for our POTUS and combine several snippets of his 'real comments' and attribute them into one singular 'Treyvon Martin' quoted reaction --- LAME - LAME - PATHETIC AND REALLY LAME Evil or Very Mad

“If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”
********
Obama’s comments and his approach to the Florida shooting varied greatly from his handling of a similarly racially charged issue early on in his administration: the arrest by a white police officer of his friend and Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr., who is black.
Asked at a news conference in 2009 about the incident — which, at the time, had been dominating the headlines — Obama said police had “acted stupidly” in arresting Gates. His remarks created a political furor.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-if-i-had-a-son-hed-look-like-trayvon/2012/03/23/gIQApKPpVS_story.html

Desperation or just craving a topic to bash 'LEFTIES' when nothing else suits your purpose? Suspect

by Guest Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:55 pm

Ben Reilly wrote:Did Cameron issue a statement on the murder of Hallel Ariel?

You surpass all levels of stupidity.

She was an American citizen

The left motoo

Deflect, divert and cover up

by Guest Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:57 pm

4EVER2 wrote:
Punditfact, a branch of Politifact, has put together profiles for CNN, MSNBC and Fox News detailing just how honest each of these networks are. And while it’s obviously not a completely comprehensive profile (it would be nearly impossible to fact check every single thing said on each network) it’s a decent measure of the honesty of each.
And what do you know, Pundifact found Fox News to have only told the truth 18 percent (15 of 83) of the time for the statements they checked. And even of that 18 percent, only 8 percent of what they said was completely “True.” The other 10 percent was rated as “Mostly True.”
A staggering 60 percent (50 of 83) comments were found to be either “Mostly False,” “False,” or “Pants on Fire.”
The other 22 percent were rated “Half True.”
Essentially well over half of what Punditfact has fact-checked on Fox News has been a lie and only 18 percent has been deemed factual.
To compare, CNN was found to have been honest about 60 percent of the time, while only having 18 percent of their comments found to be false. As for MSNBC, they were found to have been honest about 31 percent of the time, while 48 percent of the comments they had fact-checked were deemed untrue.
So while MSNBC’s numbers aren’t exactly worth bragging about, they’re still far better than the “fair and balanced” Fox News.
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fact-checking-site-finds-fox-news-tells-truth-18-percent-time/
This is sad, Didge ...that for someone that prides himself on 'non-biased faith biased' open mindedness; you drag such utter BS and biased waste of bandwidth in here and attempt to pass it off as factual news worthy for comment ...while broad brushing it with "ANTI - LEFTY" comments

Clipped from your C & P right leaning Blog >
The President, always ready to shame and guilt America, tweeted “Cool clock, Ahmed” and offered him a chance to visit the White House. Obama, who once famously claimed police “acted stupidly,” and that Trayvon Martin could have been his son, leapt at the chance to indict the country he leads of being racist and Islamophobic.
And as pathetic as your blogger was in his lame approach to roll all of his vile ill regard for our POTUS and combine several snippets of his 'real comments' and attribute them into one singular 'Treyvon Martin' quoted reaction --- LAME - LAME - PATHETIC AND REALLY LAME
“If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” Obama said. “When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids.”
********
Obama’s comments and his approach to the Florida shooting varied greatly from his handling of a similarly racially charged issue early on in his administration: the arrest by a white police officer of his friend and Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr., who is black.
Asked at a news conference in 2009 about the incident — which, at the time, had been dominating the headlines — Obama said police had “acted stupidly” in arresting Gates. His remarks created a political furor.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-if-i-had-a-son-hed-look-like-trayvon/2012/03/23/gIQApKPpVS_story.html

Desperation or just craving a topic to bash 'LEFTIES' when nothing else suits your purpose?

I could not give a flying shit what you think

What is important is some nobody idiot who did cause a scare at a school is made into a celebrity and is able to to have the President treat him like Royalty, because of this kids stupidity
An American citizen is murdered simply for being a Jew, and the US President does what he always does when it comes to foreign policy

Show what a fucking idiot he is

by Original Quill Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:15 pm

Didge to Ben wrote:You surpass all levels of stupidity.

Didge to 4Eva wrote:I could not give a flying shit what you think

Didge has a bottomless hole in him, left by his vacating self-esteem. It's probably best not to even get on the same thread with him. All your words, ideas and arguments will be thrown into that bottomless self-esteem void.

It's not you he hates. It's himself, for not being good enough. This thread is a set up to snare you into a pre-conceived set of insults that are cocked and aimed in your direction. It is a gigantic loaded question.

by Guest Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:20 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Didge to Ben wrote:You surpass all levels of stupidity.

Didge to 4Eva wrote:I could not give a flying shit what you think

Didge has a bottomless hole in him, left by his vacating self-esteem. It's probably best not to even get on the same thread with him. All your words, ideas and arguments will be thrown into that bottomless self-esteem void.

It's not you he hates. It's himself, for not being good enough. This thread is a set up to snare you into a pre-conceived set of insults that are cocked and aimed in your direction. It is a gigantic loaded question.

Ticking the box of one of the points of regressiveness, attack the poster, not the points

Listen dipshit, unless you have anything intelligent to say, then its best you dont say anything at all

As its very easy to attack people all safe and big behind your PC, that just makes you a twat

Deflect, divert and cover up

by Original Quill Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:33 pm

didge wrote:points of regressiveness

didge wrote:Listen dipshit

didge wrote:its best you dont say anything at all

didge wrote:you a twat

I rest my case. Three posts into the thread and he starts.

Aside:

by Guest Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:36 pm

Original Quill wrote:
didge wrote:points of regressiveness

didge wrote:Listen dipshit

didge wrote:its best you dont say anything at all

didge wrote:you a twat

I rest my case. Three posts into the thread and he starts.

Aside:

Rest what case

You came onto the thread syaing nothing about the topic but to invent unfounded accusations about me and when I rerturn in kind to oust you as an idiot you then claim victim status

Let me tell you again so you can simply understand

You are nothing more than some insignificant insecure wally, that has to invent his abilities just in order to impress people.

That is your failing

Continue to make this personal and I will happily ablidge

by Guest Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:44 pm

I could not give a flying shit what you think

And then you go on another tirade about what you think & feel; so you don't say what you mean or mean what you say And the low life's doing the killing hardly knew who was in the tent - hardly knew that they were JEWISH - wouldn't have known that the little girl was even A GIRL, LET ALONE AN AMERICAN ...so the blogger's entire BS diatribe was moot point but just another political Right Wing Jab at POTUS without any foundation!
BRAVO, wasted bandwidth and you fell for it! Wink

WELL DONE, but then you "don't give a flying shit what 'I' think"

by Original Quill Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:45 pm

didge wrote:You came onto the thread syaing nothing about the topic...

You have nothing to say, either. You drag out a red-herring just to insult people. A teacher in grade school (?); the President rewarding a kid's achievement (?); someone is coincidentally Jewish(?); that's a false equivalency. They are not even the same incident, fcs.

That precisely why I went to the nub of the matter. This whole thread is a set-up. And you start wacking on the second post. Proof positive!

by Guest Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:49 pm

Original Quill wrote:You have nothing to say, either. You drag out a red-herring just to insult people. A teacher in grade school (?); the President rewarding a kid's achievement (?); someone is coincidentally Jewish(?); that's a false equivalency. They are not even the same incident, fcs.

That precisely why I went to the nub of the matter. This whole thread is a set-up. And you start wacking on the second post. Proof positive!

Lets repeat the points

A kid does cause a bomb scare in a school due to negligence

A kid is murdered whilst she sleeps simply for being a Jew

Both are American citizens

A play is made on Islamophobia about the kid causing a bomb scare and the President falls over backward ti treat this kid instead like a celebrity.

The Jewish American citizen does not even create a passing mention or on antisemitism itself which is what drives the hate in the Middle East

I do not care what your regressive views on the matter as usual seek to defect away from, but Obama has to be one of the most inepet Presidents foreign policy wise to have stepped into office

by Original Quill Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:53 pm

Jesus-fookin'-keerist...why don't you throw in the kitchen sink while you're at it! There's nothing to this post except an ego-replenishment for you.

Pass it by...

by Guest Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:55 pm

Original Quill wrote:Jesus-fookin'-keerist...why don't you throw in the kitchen sink while you're at it! There's nothing to this post except an ego-replenishment for you.

Pass it by...

And we are back to the regressive motto

Deflect, divert and cover up

by Guest Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:54 am

Didge wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Jesus-fookin'-keerist...why don't you throw in the kitchen sink while you're at it! There's nothing to this post except an ego-replenishment for you.

Pass it by...
And we are back to the regressive motto

Deflect, divert and cover up

No, NOOOO, there's not a plural 'WE' in what you do - that's a singular 'I' ...you drop the 'guillotine down' upon any attempt that is made to have a conversation with you when you start that regurgitated mantra "deflect, divert and cover up"; bilge like you've corned the entire global conversation and solved it with your 3 asinine descriptive words!

Why, start a thread if all you are going to do is attack, belittle, regurgitate your 3 mantra's descriptive verbiage '?' ...just put those in your signature and say "see my signature" Rolling Eyes

by Guest Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:48 am

4EVER2 wrote:
Didge wrote:
And we are back to the regressive motto

Deflect, divert and cover up
No, NOOOO, there's not a plural 'WE' in what you do - that's a singular 'I' ...you drop the 'guillotine down' upon any attempt that is made to have a conversation with you when you start that regurgitated mantra "deflect, divert and cover up"; bilge like you've corned the entire global conversation and solved it with your 3 asinine descriptive words!

Why, start a thread if all you are going to do is attack, belittle, regurgitate your 3 mantra's descriptive verbiage '?' ...just put those in your signature and say "see my signature"

The left motto again

Deflect, divert and cover up

Its the same everytime regressives are faced with the facts, they instead do everything to talk about anything else and now even challenge why a thread is started, because it constantly exposes them for regrerssives

by 'Wolfie Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:43 am

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NOW DIDGE is digging into the extreme right wing cesspit to find like-minded anti-Obama/anti-liberal/anti-freedoms rhetoric to bolster his usual line of bigoted and hate-mongering rhetoric...

Way to go, Didgeri..

Just remember, Dodger == 'Lay down with dogs, and you'fe sure to get up with fleas.' Dear Barack: Why Ahmed, But Not Hallel 1763903427

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by SEXY MAMA Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:11 pm

Didge wrote:
4EVER2 wrote:
This is sad, Didge ...that for someone that prides himself on 'non-biased faith biased' open mindedness; you drag such utter BS and biased waste of bandwidth in here and attempt to pass it off as factual news worthy for comment ...while broad brushing it with "ANTI - LEFTY" comments

And as pathetic as your blogger was in his lame approach to roll all of his vile ill regard for our POTUS and combine several snippets of his 'real comments' and attribute them into one singular 'Treyvon Martin' quoted reaction --- LAME - LAME - PATHETIC AND REALLY LAME

Desperation or just craving a topic to bash 'LEFTIES' when nothing else suits your purpose?

I could not give a flying shit what you think

What is important is some nobody idiot who did cause a scare at a school is made into a celebrity and is able to to have the President treat him like Royalty, because of this kids stupidity
An American citizen is murdered simply for being a Jew, and the US President does what he always does when it comes to foreign policy

Show what a fucking idiot he is

Seriously are you sure you haven't swapped IDs with Smelly?

You post just like him. He should be proud hes rubbed off on you!

Anywayyyyy

The op is pathetic

the reason being is how many murders take place in America daily? Seriously is Obama supposed to give speeches on all of them?????

And the most important point that you clearly missed in your racist view is that Ahmed is a genius.

Case closed

by Irn Bru Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:07 pm

The OP is nothing more than NRA pro Trump propaganda. Did the NRA call for Obama to condemn the killing of Orwah Hammad by the IDF or any other child killed by them? Have they ever called for condemnation of the killing of Rachael Corey? I bet they didn't. Appears that the NRA and those that pump out this type of propaganda only looks for condemnation of the murder or death of some children but nor all. Shameful.

The US has condemned the murder of Hallel Arie in the strongest possible terms. It's on the Department of State website if anyone had cared to look...

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2016/06/259213.htm

by Guest Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:03 pm

SEXY MAMA wrote:
Didge wrote:

I could not give a flying shit what you think

What is important is some nobody idiot who did cause a scare at a school is made into a celebrity and is able to to have the President treat him like Royalty, because of this kids stupidity
An American citizen is murdered simply for being a Jew, and the US President does what he always does when it comes to foreign policy

Show what a fucking idiot he is

Seriously are you sure you haven't swapped IDs with Smelly?

You post just like him. He should be proud hes rubbed off on you!

Anywayyyyy

The op is pathetic

the reason being is how many murders take place in America daily? Seriously is Obama supposed to give speeches on all of them?????

And the most important point that you clearly missed in your racist view is that Ahmed is a genius.

Case closed

The left motto applied by both sexy and Irn

Again we have a young Jew murdered and no mention at all by the President of the US or by posters on this, where one again wishes to talk about me and not ther points

We then have the most ridiculous point made by the Hitler supporting Muslim, to say how many murders happen in the US each day which just about is so far removed from the issue on comparability

As how many people die each year in the US based on hate crimes and terrorism?

Compare this real comparrisnon to the daily hate crimea and terrorism committed in Islam

Ahmed is a genius?

One moment

Razz

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:11 pm

Obama's comment about Trayvon Martin was stupid in the extreme. It could have influenced a potential jury, and it was blatantly designed to rile people up.

by Guest Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:49 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

NOW DIDGE is digging into the extreme right wing cesspit to find like-minded anti-Obama/anti-liberal/anti-freedoms rhetoric to bolster his usual line of bigoted and hate-mongering rhetoric...

Way to go, Didgeri..

Just remember, Dodger == 'Lay down with dogs, and you'fe sure to get up with fleas.'

And another one failing to address a single point and does the pathetic thing Irn does, go off thje source, failing to actually address the issue at hand. Is it racist to compare how one ordinary negligent Muslim gets invited to the White house, because of his stupidity, whilst A jew, is stabbed to death because of antisemitism and who is also an American citizen gets no mention at all. People bound to ask why. Now the only thing racist I can see is how at every turn the left are doing everything to avoid talking about this very issue. So the source is irrelevant, so is the views made on me. The only thing relevant, is we have a situation of a President who is with his neglegence and constant pandering to an ideology, is pushng people into the arms of people like Trump, the last thing anybody wants. This is happenning because there are western leaders afraid to say what is the root cause of the problem.

Islamism.

It stems from the very religious doctrines istelf and denying this, is what is pissing people off, when they know it does stem from Islamic text. What they should be doing is standing behind Muslim reformers and progressives, but you get like with the case of the "in no way on earthn was that a clock" boy, shouts of Islamophobia. Islamophobia is nothing more than a backing of the aspect of Blasphemy in islam. Its not racist to be critical of an ideology, neither is it bigotry or a made up concept to proect this ideology called Islamophobia, which seeks to censur any criticism of Islam. What should be stated is when there is anti-Muslim hate, which is seperate, because Muslims are people, islam, though is an ideology and the real corcern is islamism, as many Muslims are dece4nt people who are also concerned about Islamis, but the left including Obama, want to make the matter 10 times worse, by simply ignoring this or covering up this problem, through an unfouned fear this will class them as bigots

by 'Wolfie Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:51 pm

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WHY IS IT that Didge keeps on jibbering on like a mindless idiot day after day, endlessy repeating his fascist, racist and sexist, badly-copied Zionist, Republican Tea bagger, NRA, neo-nazi, Murdoch/Fox_financed extremist rubbish on here...

AS IF there was some actual point of genuine concern in any of these cherry-picked propaganda pieces..

FOR MONTHS Didge has been attempting to label veya, Quill, my most humble self, Ben and sassy as "racists" and something he calls "regressives" when we haven't agreed with one of his moronic suggestions -- and totally failing every time to actually substantiate any of his fallacious claims.

And now he adds Irn and Sexy onto his list..
Won't be long now, and he will only have Horatio and Syl left left untainted by his vitriol... Dear Barack: Why Ahmed, But Not Hallel 1177314732

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by Guest Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:54 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

WHY IS IT that Didge keeps on jibbering on like a mindless idiot day after day, endlessy repeating his fascist, racist and sexist, badly-copied Zionist, Republican Tea bagger, NRA, neo-nazi, Murdoch/Fox_financed extremist rubbish on here...

AS IF there was some actual point of genuine concern in any of these cherry-picked propaganda pieces..

FOR MONTHS Didge has been attempting to label veya, Quill, my most humble self, Ben and sassy as "racists" and something he calls "regressives" when we haven't agreed with one of his moronic suggestions -- and totally failing every time to actually substantiate any of his fallacious claims.

And now he adds Irn and Sexy onto his list..
Won't be long now, and he will only have Horatio and Syl left left untainted by his vitriol...

See yet more regressive drivel

Not a single point made again on the article

Waffles on again about me, with a load of crap about fascism, then onto other regressives who failed to answer anything and thinks this merits a good response

Let me tell you wolf, its the worst load of deflective diverting bullshit you continue to post

So once again either answers the points or continue to have me ridicule your por replies

And another one failing to address a single point and does the pathetic thing Irn does, go off thje source, failing to actually address the issue at hand. Is it racist to compare how one ordinary negligent Muslim gets invited to the White house, because of his stupidity, whilst A jew, is stabbed to death because of antisemitism and who is also an American citizen gets no mention at all. People bound to ask why. Now the only thing racist I can see is how at every turn the left are doing everything to avoid talking about this very issue. So the source is irrelevant, so is the views made on me. The only thing relevant, is we have a situation of a President who is with his neglegence and constant pandering to an ideology, is pushng people into the arms of people like Trump, the last thing anybody wants. This is happenning because there are western leaders afraid to say what is the root cause of the problem.

Islamism.

It stems from the very religious doctrines istelf and denying this, is what is pissing people off, when they know it does stem from Islamic text. What they should be doing is standing behind Muslim reformers and progressives, but you get like with the case of the "in no way on earthn was that a clock" boy, shouts of Islamophobia. Islamophobia is nothing more than a backing of the aspect of Blasphemy in islam. Its not racist to be critical of an ideology, neither is it bigotry or a made up concept to proect this ideology called Islamophobia, which seeks to censur any criticism of Islam. What should be stated is when there is anti-Muslim hate, which is seperate, because Muslims are people, islam, though is an ideology and the real corcern is islamism, as many Muslims are dece4nt people who are also concerned about Islamis, but the left including Obama, want to make the matter 10 times worse, by simply ignoring this or covering up this problem, through an unfouned fear this will class them as bigots

by Guest Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:23 pm

Why would America start worrying about it's citizens in Palestine/Israel now, it never has before:

Fifteen-year-old Tariq Abukhdeir, a US citizen from Tampa, Florida, was savagely beaten by undercover Israeli police in the Shuafat neighborhood of occupied East Jerusalem. The attack was caught on video, showing Israeli police repeatedly kicking and punching Abukhdeir in the face and head as he lay handcuffed on the ground.
According to the Palestinian human rights organization Addameer, Abukhdeir was arrested without charge and denied urgently needed medical attention and access to his family for five hours. He was released on bail after three days in Israeli jail and placed under house arrest before returning to Florida on 16 July.
On 5 July, the US State Department called “for a speedy, transparent and credible investigation and full accountability for any excessive use of force” in Abukhdeir’s beating. However, in previous instances of Israel injuring and even killing US citizens, the United States has pressed similar demands, only to have Israel thumb its nose at its benefactor.

History of attacks

Rachel Corrie, a 23-year-old activist from Olympia, Washington, was run over and killed by an Israeli soldier operating a militarized Caterpillar bulldozer as she nonviolently attempted to prevent a Palestinian home from being demolished in the Gaza Strip on 16 March 2003. Although the Israeli government promised the United States a “thorough, credible and transparent” investigation into her death, the State Department informed the Corrie family that the Israeli investigation did not meet these standards.
But instead of taking up her case, the US government left the family to its own devices, counseling the Corries to “use the Israeli court system” to seek accountability. The case is now on appeal at the Israeli high court, after a lower court ruled against the Corrie family, blaming Rachel for her own death.
On 5 April 2003, Brian Avery, a 24-year-old activist from Albuquerque, New Mexico, was shot in the face in the occupied West Bank city of Jenin by Israeli soldiers who fired machine guns from an armored personnel carrier.
Tristan Anderson, a 37-year-old activist from Oakland, California, suffered permanent brain damage after Israeli forces shot him in the forehead with a high-velocity tear gas canister as he observed a protest in the West Bank village of Nilin in March 2009.
Furkan Doğan, an 18-year-old Turkish resident born in Troy, New York, was killed aboard the Mavi Marmara in the Mediterranean Sea on 31 May 2010 as a flotilla of international activists attempted to break Israel’s illegal blockade of the Gaza Strip and to deliver humanitarian goods. The United Nations’ General Assembly Human Rights Council found that Doğan was killed by Israeli naval commandos in an “extra-legal, arbitrary and summary execution,” shot five times, including a shot to his face at “point blank range.”

https://electronicintifada.net/content/why-wont-us-investigate-israeli-violence-against-us-citizens/13577

And of course, Britain did nothing about

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Thomas "Tom" Hurndall (27 November 1981 – 13 January 2004) was a British photography student, a volunteer for the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), and an activist against the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories. On 11 April 2003, he was shot in the head in the Gaza Strip by the Israel ... On 10 April 2006, a British inquest jury returned a verdict of unlawful killing.

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James Henry Dominic Miller (18 December 1968 – 2 May 2003) was a Welsh cameraman, producer, and director, and recipient of numerous awards, including five Emmy Awards. He was killed by a soldier from the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). ... In addition, Miller won the RTS craft award for his outstanding photography.

by Guest Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:32 pm

Again point lost on Sassy, as she is an American citizen, who was murdered due to antisemitism, not beaten up but stabbed to death in her bed.
You then offer up one case on someone beaten up, another who stupidly got in the way of a bulldozer, protesting, which is negliegce on her part, to others not of them based on racial hate. You fail to compare the motive and intent behind each case, which is again far removed from stabbing a ten girl in her bed. Then offer up cases of British citizens, when this is about Obama. It beggars belief the levels that the left will go to in avoiding the issue at hand
It staggers me how the lefdt deflect, divert cover up at every given opportunity and not one of you has condemned this disgusting terrorist attack

by nicko Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:57 pm

If a Jew had stabbed a Palestinien we would never hear the last of it!

by Guest Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:00 pm

nicko wrote:If a Jew had stabbed a Palestinien we would never hear the last of it!

Correct, just as was the case when the Dawabsheh family was hit with a terrorist arson attack, which the US presidency condemned, and they were not US citizens either
Sadly Nicko, where i condemned that attack and am against any such extremist attack, you find the left go out of their way to avoid condemning and here try to deflect away from this attack, failing to understand a single point being made

by eddie Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:13 pm

Actually I'm not really sure why Obama invited the kid to the Whitehouse - it all seemed rather arse-licky to me in the first place but then Obama is rather erm....made-to-measure.

Not sure if he should have commented on the Jewish girls death (which is awful btw!) as SM said, he can't simply comment on everything, but!!

Inviting that kid to the Whitehouse smacked of someone arse-licking Muslims to me. Like a "Quick! Let's paper this over!"

I find all these stories a bit odd anyway.

by Guest Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:16 pm

She is an American Citizen, Eddie, the point is, he has given no thought to the fact, that she is and that she was sstabbed to death because of antisemitism. Where this boy did in fact cause a bomb scare, through naivety to then have this all blow out of proportions with claims to islamophobia.

by eddie Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:32 pm

I know. I'm sort of agreeing with your point.

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:56 pm

Yes, it was stupid of him to get involved with the kid. He should have left it up to the school to sort out. He does seem to put his foot in it quite often.

by Irn Bru Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:24 am

The article is pure NRA propaganda. The boy has absolutely no connection to the murder of the Israeli girl. And it was U.S. Chief Data Scientist D.J. Patil who first called for the boy to be invited to a science fair at the White House and he asked Obama to support it. Google did the same in asking him to attend their science fair.

The boy connection is a red-herring and no surprise that the NRA would use the dead to try and score political points as they have done elsewhere.

It's all a load of baloney. The US Dept of State which is part of the Obama administration have conmedmed the murder of the Israeli girl as they surely should because that's what it was.

Just in case anyone didn't read it the first time here it is again

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2016/06/259213.htm

by 'Wolfie Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:10 am

Didge wrote:
She is an American Citizen, Eddie, the point is, he has given no thought to the fact, that she is and that she was sstabbed to death because of antisemitism. Where this boy did in fact cause a bomb scare, through naivety to then have this all blow out of proportions with claims to islamophobia.

COME ON, Didge ! Keep on digging that hole deeper..

Keep on spouting your usual lying and baseless zionist, fascist, racist, anti-equality rants...

You can keep on trying to paint yourself as a fair-minded commentator as much as you like, but every time you post this kind of trash talking and fanciful garbage, your true agenda shines through.. cheers

by Guest Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:59 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Didge wrote:
She is an American Citizen, Eddie, the point is, he has given no thought to the fact, that she is and that she was sstabbed to death because of antisemitism. Where this boy did in fact cause a bomb scare, through naivety to then have this all blow out of proportions with claims to islamophobia.

COME ON, Didge ! Keep on digging that hole deeper..

Keep on spouting your usual lying and baseless zionist, fascist, racist, anti-equality rants...

You can keep on trying to paint yourself as a fair-minded commentator as much as you like, but every time you post this kind of trash talking and fanciful garbage, your true agenda shines through..

So where I explain many points to you, that you again as other left posters have done on this fail to understand a single point.

Eddie and Rags both grasp it, yet the left continue to come out with every excuse in the bok

As to your opinions of me, they are not only meaningless but insignificant, as you are just a nobody on a forum, who has next to no influence

Let me know when you want to address the points you keep avoiding

by Guest Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:05 pm

Irn Bru wrote:The article is pure NRA propaganda. The boy has absolutely no connection to the murder of the Israeli girl. And it was U.S. Chief Data Scientist D.J. Patil who first called for the boy to be invited to a science fair at the White House and he asked Obama to support it. Google did the same in asking him to attend their science fair.

The boy connection is a red-herring and no surprise that the NRA would use the dead to try and score political points as they have done elsewhere.

It's all a load of baloney. The US Dept of State which is part of the Obama administration have conmedmed the murder of the Israeli girl as they surely should because that's what it was.

Just in case anyone didn't read it the first time here it is again

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2016/06/259213.htm

But again the point is on Obama who is very open to speak out normally on such murders, so again using the state department is not only failing to grasp the points made, how the left screamed Islamophobia over some negliegent kid. Who then gets invited to the white house because he bends over backwards not to offend Islam, but dead Jews with American citizenship, murdered, well,they get relegated to the back of beyond by this incomtetant President, who is doing the best propganda for the likes of Trump, the glaring point you fail to understand. Its idiots like Obama, who provide with his inability to tell the truth, plays into the hands of the Far Right.
That is what you regressives fail to grasp

So again another one who makes no mention of her murder craps on as usual about the right, failing to understand the significance of that.

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