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Post by Syl Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:20 pm

Well over 11000 have now signed a petition for the organisers of the Miss Great Britain competition to reinstate Zara Holland as Miss GB 2016.
She was sacked after having sex on the ITV show 'Love Island'.
Pageant organisers have said they can no longer promote her as a positive role model.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3645286/Zara-Holland-STRIPPED-Miss-Great-Britain-title.html



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Post by eddie Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:26 pm

Hmmmm. She's done nothing terrible like kick a disabled kid but she's had sex in a TV show, which isn't great but.....

Isn't that what these TV shows are for?
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Post by Syl Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:32 pm

Yes, it was probably the best scoop they have had this year.

I do think anyone who wears a crown representing their country has some sort of responsibility though. She was Miss GB, so whilst she had that 'honour' she should have acted with some degree of decency.

After that if she wants to act like a slapper for the enjoyment of thousands of strangers that's her prerogative.
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Post by eddie Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:36 pm

I tend to agree with you really. It's not classy is it?

I always wonder how these people on TV can ever actually enjoy sex whilst being filmed.
It's a real private and intense moment between two people, not to be scrutinised and cheapened.

Now if two people want to film themsleves....well that's different. Cool
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Post by Syl Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:44 pm

Maybe the fact that she was being watched heightened the experience for her....exhibitionist AND a slapper. booby shake

She left soon after though....in disgrace.
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Post by eddie Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:46 pm

And now she's burned her crown and bridges (sounds like I'm talking about dental treatment)
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:54 pm

So she has been sacked for enjoying what most people do every single day, having sex.
Talk about a bunch of prudes.
So two people were sexually attracted to each other and enjoyed sex together.
I think that makes them human.
Do they expect Miss Worlds to be virgins?

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:23 pm

Major wrote:Not unless she fell off the TV and damaged her figure.

LOL, Stormee ...you do have a way with the words!
This rather reminds of that other tabloid topic that LF put up about 'Big Brother' ...was this reigning queen actually 'FILMED' having intercourse or was it all those innuendo/highly suggestive sounds with no filmed footage that has her in deep-do-doo over this sexual encounter?
Don't you all have TV viewing censors - doesn't the BBC have those ole' farts that watch such reality shows and 'hit that censor button'...but you'd have to have that 5second time delay if you had censors Miss Great Britain has sex on TV show...should she lose her crown? 2190311264

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:41 pm

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Use ya on and off switch, I do, mostly OFF.
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Post by Syl Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:59 pm

Major wrote:Not unless she fell off the TV and damaged her figure.

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Post by Syl Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:04 pm

Didge wrote:So she has been sacked for enjoying what most people do every single day, having sex.
Talk about a bunch of prudes.
So two people were sexually attracted to each other and enjoyed sex together.
I think that makes them human.
Do they expect Miss Worlds to be virgins?

She hasn't been de-crowned for having sex Didge, she has been sacked for going onto a TV show and having sex in front of the cameras....knowing damn well it would be televised to the hundreds of thousands of morons that enjoy this kind of brainless TV programme.
She may as well have appeared in a low budget porn movie.

Another couple have now had sex live on the programme....whilst the other contestants jokingly gave a running commentary on what was happening. The programme is called 'Love Island'.....not sure where the 'love' comes in.

Don't you think it's degrading?
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Post by Guest Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:32 pm

Syl wrote:
Didge wrote:So she has been sacked for enjoying what most people do every single day, having sex.
Talk about a bunch of prudes.
So two people were sexually attracted to each other and enjoyed sex together.
I think that makes them human.
Do they expect Miss Worlds to be virgins?

She hasn't been de-crowned for having sex Didge, she has been sacked for going onto a TV show and having sex in front of the cameras....knowing damn well it would be televised to the hundreds of thousands of morons that enjoy this kind of brainless TV programme.
She may as well have appeared in a low budget porn movie.

Another couple have now had sex live on the programme....whilst the other contestants jokingly gave a running commentary on what was happening. The programme is called 'Love Island'.....not sure where the 'love' comes in.

Don't you think it's degrading?

Sorry but no, I do not think its degrading and as a matter of fact I bet most of us here at some point or another has had sex in a public place, mainly due to the thrill and excitement of it all. I mean come on, what is so bad here.You do not have to watch her having sex and some people are not ashamed for others to see them have sex and some even get off on it.
Again its farical, as she won the competition based on who she is, not what she does in her own time.
If she so wishes to hump the entire cast of the program, who's buisness is that anyway Syl?
Basically she is being criminalized for a non criminal act, as that is what it boils down to.

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Post by eddie Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:45 pm

Well the rules are the rules I guess and Miss World didn't like her being their "role model".
I can understand it.
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Post by Syl Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:31 pm

Didge wrote:
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She hasn't been de-crowned for having sex Didge, she has been sacked for going onto a TV show and having sex in front of the cameras....knowing damn well it would be televised to the hundreds of thousands of morons that enjoy this kind of brainless TV programme.
She may as well have appeared in a low budget porn movie.

Another couple have now had sex live on the programme....whilst the other contestants jokingly gave a running commentary on what was happening. The programme is called 'Love Island'.....not sure where the 'love' comes in.

Don't you think it's degrading?

Sorry but no, I do not think its degrading and as a matter of fact I bet most of us here at some point or another has had sex in a public place, mainly due to the thrill and excitement of it all. I mean come on, what is so bad here.You do not have to watch her having sex and some people are not ashamed for others to see them have sex and some even get off on it.
Again its farical, as she won the competition based on who she is, not what she does in her own time.
If she so wishes to hump the entire cast of the program, who's buisness is that anyway Syl?
Basically she is being criminalized for a non criminal act, as that is what it boils down to.

Sex in a public place maybe....but unless one is into dogging I would guess that we don't want onlookers getting an eyeful. Shocked

Yes she can 'hump' who she pleases....but unfortunately she can no longer do it wearing the Miss GB crown. queen

She isn't being criminalised Didge, but  she has disgraced herself in the eyes of the pageant organisers and is no longer considered suitable to be an ambassador for the country. They expect their representatives  to be decent respectable women ....no good having the beauty if you don't have the morals to compliment that.
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Post by nicko Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:19 pm

I had sex in a corn field once, I was combined by an harvestor.
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Post by Syl Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:31 pm

nicko wrote:I had sex in a corn field once,   I was combined by an harvestor.

This'll bring back some happy memories for you then Nicko. Razz

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:03 pm

Syl wrote:
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Sorry but no, I do not think its degrading and as a matter of fact I bet most of us here at some point or another has had sex in a public place, mainly due to the thrill and excitement of it all. I mean come on, what is so bad here.You do not have to watch her having sex and some people are not ashamed for others to see them have sex and some even get off on it.
Again its farical, as she won the competition based on who she is, not what she does in her own time.
If she so wishes to hump the entire cast of the program, who's buisness is that anyway Syl?
Basically she is being criminalized for a non criminal act, as that is what it boils down to.

Sex in a public place maybe....but unless one is into dogging I would guess that we don't want onlookers getting an eyeful. Shocked

Yes she can 'hump' who she pleases....but unfortunately she can no longer do it wearing the Miss GB crown. queen

She isn't being criminalised Didge, but  she has disgraced herself in the eyes of the pageant organisers and is no longer considered suitable to be an ambassador for the country. They expect their representatives  to be decent respectable women ....no good having the beauty if you don't have the morals to compliment that.

Sorry Syl but how is being recorded having sex so wrong, that she should lose her croiwn?
How many other job roles would you lose your job for even actively posting up clips having sex with people?
Its not against the law to do so, and if it was not televised it would have been having sex in private.
So on every aspect she is being both deemed as committing a criminal offense simply for enjoying sex.
I also think that people clearly may not have had great sex, as there is nothing more beatiful, when having great sex with someone you love. as how often do women glow after sex?

So you are placing a boundary in regards to sexual decency and if the prudes organisors of Miss world think this is wrong, then they are also sending out the wrong kind of message as well. That they have passed judged ruled and passed sentence with no chance of even challenging this decision. You may welll think its wrong based on your principles Syl in regards to decency, but what they did was based more off their own image, than rather exaplain to her, this is not in the best interest for a Miss world to act and thus warn her.

It was over the top their reaction and even more so in this day and age when western society is very sexually liberated. You will find that the vast majority of species hump away in plain sight of everyone, as once also humans did too. You see people allow something to become a base point on decency, when there is nothing indecent when two consenting adults enjoy sex with each other.

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Post by Syl Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:27 pm

People can and do lose their jobs if they have been seen acting indecently Didge.

And like it or not, to most people, having sex in public is wrong...(against the law in fact) so no matter how beautiful the sex act is....it's something to be done without an audience...unless you are a dogger or a pornstar.

Now OK, she wasn't having sex in public, but she was having sex knowing the public would see, she wasn't breaking the law, but she was breaking her contract where it states that the holder of Miss Graet Britain must act with responsibility and carry herself and her title with dignity...(or words to that effect)

I know the vast majority of species hump away in plain sight of everyone Didge...they also empty their bladders and bowels with gay abandon too.....that's what separates humans from animals.... thank goodness. Laughing
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:35 pm

Syl wrote:People can and do lose their jobs if they have been seen acting indecently Didge.

And like it or not, to most people, having sex in public is wrong...(against the law in fact) so no matter how beautiful the sex act is....it's something to be done without an audience...unless you are a dogger or a pornstar.

Now OK, she wasn't having sex in public, but she was having sex knowing the public would see, she wasn't breaking the law, but she was breaking her contract where it states that the holder of Miss Graet Britain must act with responsibility and carry herself and her title with dignity...(or words to that effect)

I know the vast majority of species hump away in plain sight of everyone Didge...they also empty their bladders and bowels with gay abandon too.....that's what separates humans from animals.... thank goodness.  Laughing  

Again you keep claiming indecency, based on no sound reasoning, as if sex is a shameful act in itself, to be performed before preying eyes. You then state again something even more objective about the public, where the only reason it is. Is based on shielding childrens eyes from something they of yet do not fully understand. That is the only aspect as to why it is banned, as other wise there simply would be no valid reason and being as this is viwed after the watershed of 9pm, it was not breaking the rules of the watershed time. Again this was in a private place and only becasue they are part of the program was it recorded. So there is nothing indecent about public sex if there is no children around. So only those who are adults t that should have ben able to watch this. If parents allow their children to watch after the watershed or online, then they are responsible. So she in fact did nothing wrong. There is zero indecency around having sex. This simply has formed over time based on a variety of reasons, but as I say the only real and valid reason is to shield such acts from being viewed by children. If people humb in a club or after the club, the reality is the Police will not even arrest them, as again it is late when children are not about.

Like I say, such a stance by the organisors is in fact then based off this deeming the actual act of sex as indecent, which to me lacks any validity

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Post by Syl Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:46 pm

I think we will have to agree to disagree Didge.

We have laws of decency, people having sex in public (in the street or in full view of others) can and are charged with indecent behaviour....wasn't a couple on a plane found guilty and named and shamed fairly recently?

The sex act isn't shameful, doing it in public is though.

On TV its obviously different, the law may not have been broken here but her contract was. This woman knew the rules and terms of her contract.
You may not agree with them, but she did, and she was happy to abide by them which enabled her to enter Miss GB and win....sadly she didn't keep her contract and they were entitled to de-throne her.
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:58 pm

Syl wrote:I think we will have to agree to disagree Didge.

We have laws of decency, people having sex in public (in the street or in full view of others) can and are charged with indecent behaviour....wasn't a couple on a plane found guilty and named and shamed fairly recently?

The sex act isn't shameful, doing it in public is though.

On TV its obviously different, the law may not have been broken here but her contract was. This woman knew the rules and terms of her contract.
You may not agree with them, but she did, and she was happy to abide by them which enabled her to enter Miss GB and win....sadly she didn't keep her contract and they were entitled to de-throne her.

As i say, the laws only have any form of validty based around protecting children.
If you can view other animals having sex, then to claim humans having sex is so traumatic to see, then as seen such reasoning is flawed
So then its about boundaries where people can have sex, but in no way, is seeing people have sex somehow indecent, as that is basdically saying that the act of sex itself is indecent. No matter if even partially clothed. as it is the act itself in public that is deemed a criminal offence. Even nudity is in this day and age, absurd, as people themselves sexualize body parts, that again denies people if they so chose to walk around freely naked. Again there is only one valid reason that sex is outlawed in public, to protect children.  The view to claim something is indecent, where when you look at the origin of the word. It was formed in latin, so its of no surpise that we see again religion leaving its stamp on society, making people wrong think that the act of sex is in someway bad, when it is not.

So yesy we will have to agree to disagree, where again, she never even had sex in public, and its the media outlet that made the clips available. So they really had no right to do what they did.

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Syl wrote:People can and do lose their jobs if they have been seen acting indecently Didge.

And like it or not, to most people, having sex in public is wrong...(against the law in fact) so no matter how beautiful the sex act is....it's something to be done without an audience...unless you are a dogger or a pornstar.

Now OK, she wasn't having sex in public, but she was having sex knowing the public would see, she wasn't breaking the law, but she was breaking her contract where it states that the holder of Miss Graet Britain must act with responsibility and carry herself and her title with dignity...(or words to that effect)

I know the vast majority of species hump away in plain sight of everyone Didge...they also empty their bladders and bowels with gay abandon too.....that's what separates humans from animals.... thank goodness.  Laughing  
Yes, indeed ...that's why those beauty contestants all have those 'morality clauses' in their contracts, that every girl signs and if she knowingly violates the contract ...POOF - your reign has come to an end!
She should have signed on to do the show 'AFTER' her contract was finished ...she could have had a gal-pal taping her sexaul adventures and made some serious  Miss Great Britain has sex on TV show...should she lose her crown? 1399249160

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Post by Syl Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:36 pm

4EVER2 wrote:
Syl wrote:People can and do lose their jobs if they have been seen acting indecently Didge.

And like it or not, to most people, having sex in public is wrong...(against the law in fact) so no matter how beautiful the sex act is....it's something to be done without an audience...unless you are a dogger or a pornstar.

Now OK, she wasn't having sex in public, but she was having sex knowing the public would see, she wasn't breaking the law, but she was breaking her contract where it states that the holder of Miss Graet Britain must act with responsibility and carry herself and her title with dignity...(or words to that effect)

I know the vast majority of species hump away in plain sight of everyone Didge...they also empty their bladders and bowels with gay abandon too.....that's what separates humans from animals.... thank goodness.  Laughing  
Yes, indeed ...that's why those beauty contestants all have those 'morality clauses' in their contracts, that every girl signs and if she knowingly violates the contract ...POOF - your reign has come to an end!
She should have signed on to do the show 'AFTER' her contract was finished ...she could have had a gal-pal taping her sexaul adventures and made some serious  Miss Great Britain has sex on TV show...should she lose her crown? 1399249160

Perhaps....though to be honest she is hardly in the same league as Paris Hilton or Pamela Anderson....would anyone actually pay to see her??

Like you say all the Beauty pageants have rules and regulations, why would anyone want a woman representing their country who acts like a whore?
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Syl stated > Perhaps....though to be honest she is hardly in the same league as Paris Hilton or Pamela Anderson....would anyone actually pay to see her??

Like you say all the Beauty pageants have rules and regulations, why would anyone want a woman representing their country who acts like a whore?
I can imagine the rational behind the attraction to the physique of the 'Pamela Andersons' of this world ...but the air head coyness of Paris Hilton - Mad  Just can't fathom that, but who knows what promotes some men to buy those type of videos anyway! LOL
But since the social flooding of FB/Myspace/Twitter/Snapchat ...that became the undoing of the well established refined printed magazine like ™️PlayBoy and the reason they went back to 'non-nude center fold' publication!

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Post by Syl Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:04 pm

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Syl stated > Perhaps....though to be honest she is hardly in the same league as Paris Hilton or Pamela Anderson....would anyone actually pay to see her??

Like you say all the Beauty pageants have rules and regulations, why would anyone want a woman representing their country who acts like a whore?
I can imagine the rational behind the attraction to the physique of the 'Pamela Andersons' of this world ...but the air head coyness of Paris Hilton - Mad  Just can't fathom that, but who knows what promotes some men to buy those type of videos anyway! LOL
But since the social flooding of FB/Myspace/Twitter/Snapchat ...that became the undoing of the well established refined printed magazine like ™️PlayBoy and the reason they went back to 'non-nude center fold' publication!

Exactly....full nudity even porn is so readily available nowadays it has lost it's appeal to excite.
A bit like the F word and similar.....once it had real shock value, now no one hardly notices or cares.

Marilyn Monroe was the first nude centrefold in Playboy magazine....she was naked and classy....pity standards dropped so much.
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