Preacher carrying ‘you deserve to be raped’ sign hit over the head by baseball bat-wielding woman

A street preacher who yells anti-gay messages got hit over the head by a student outraged by his offensive speech, ABC15 reports.
Glendale, Arizona preacher Brother Dean Saxton makes it a habit to stand outside local high schools and loudly condemn students and members of the LGBT community. ABC15 reports he often also holds a sign that reads, “You deserve to be raped.” But when he embarked on one of his unsolicited missions this month at Apollo High School, Tabitha Brubaker, 19, responded to what she called hate speech by striking him over the head with a baseball bat, according to authorities. She has been charged with felony assault. Police also charged her with marijuana possession. Saxton posted a video of the incident on YouTube, in which he can be seen yelling his message outside the high school. “The Bible says it’s not okay to be gay,” he yells. “You need to stop doing naught, nasty things, Apollo High School. You need to stop looking up naughty, nasty things on the Internet.”

He is approached periodically by students and a teacher repudiating him. Saxton accuses the teacher of trying to influence the students, who he called “evil.”
“I’m trying to influence the fact that you need to be gone,” the teacher says. “I think you’re a disgrace to Christianity. Why don’t you go and preach it to somebody who really wants to hear your message, like Westboro Baptist Church?” Another adult approaches Saxton and tells him to leave, saying he doesn’t think Saxton was “playing with a full deck.” He then says, “These kids don’t need to see that,” then reacts with shock when Saxton is hit over the head. Saxton’s camera is still rolling when he is hit, and some people standing around him seem to celebrate. Brubaker is out of frame, but she has been arrested for hitting Saxton.

Watch video of the incident, as posted by Saxton, here. The attack happens just after the 17-minute mark.





http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/preacher-carrying-you-deserve-to-be-raped-sign-hit-over-the-head-by-baseball-bat-wielding-woman/

he had that coming.

Shame, she is going to be prosecuted and he will claim victim status. Doesn't America have hate speech laws?

What a twat.
Hit him again as the first time obviously didn't work.

It is not ok to use violence against someone just because you disagree with them...

I'm not sure whether what he said qualified as hate  speech, and if it did that's not punishable by vigilante baseball bat justice.

Onl the other hand, I totally understand ...

give that woman a medal.......

Was the bat aluminium or wood?

Ben_Reilly wrote:I'm not sure whether what he said qualified as hate  speech, and if it did that's not punishable by vigilante baseball bat justice.

Onl the other hand, I totally understand ...

The US has the First Amendment, which prohibits the banning of any speech. However, the US has hate crimes, which use hate speech to prove that a physical attack was done with particular malice toward protected classifications.

But...you go gurl.

I'm sure the lefties here also condone violence against trump supporters...

Tommy Monk wrote:


I'm sure the lefties here also condone violence against trump supporters...

There has been no violence against Trump supporters by the left.  All of the violence has been from the RW, with Trump cheering them on from the podium.  Why do you think they are called Trump Brownshirts.

This was just a crazy act by a crazy woman. We know nothing about her politics, except that she was responding to a call to violence by the madman with the sign.

Rubbish!!!


Trump supporters have been regularly attacked by lefties while trying to attend trump rallies...


What were lefties doing there?

Tommy Monk wrote:Rubbish!!!

Trump supporters have been regularly attacked by lefties while trying to attend trump rallies...

What were lefties doing there?

It's rare for you to make up direct lies, tommy. You're usually operating within subtle shadows of innuendo.

But this time, gotchu! All the trouble has come from the RW. What do you expect? The person who 'loses it' is inevitably the one who can't think. Conservatives always opt for the irrational line.

The recent skirmishes Trump has had in the border states stem from his problem with Hispanics. Remember, Trump has alienated many, many groups. The American Left has naught but to sit back and watch.

TOMMY caught out making up stories...

Naughty, naughty Tommy !!!

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/24/politics/donald-trump-albuquerque-protesters-police/


One example... do you want more...?

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


I'm sure the lefties here also condone violence against trump supporters...

There has been no violence against Trump supporters by the left.  All of the violence has been from the RW, with Trump cheering them on from the podium.  Why do you think they are called Trump Brownshirts.

This was just a crazy act by a crazy woman.  We know nothing about her politics, except that she was responding to a call to violence by the madman with the sign.

And you accuse me of lying...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

There has been no violence against Trump supporters by the left.  All of the violence has been from the RW, with Trump cheering them on from the podium.  Why do you think they are called Trump Brownshirts.

This was just a crazy act by a crazy woman.  We know nothing about her politics, except that she was responding to a call to violence by the madman with the sign.

And you accuse me of lying...!?

Yes, just because there is violence in, and all around Trump, you assume he was attacked. The Brownshirts in his own crowd and on his staff, are doing the attacking.

In fact Trump's own staff attacked noted Latino reporter, Jorge Ramos. http://host-54.242.54.159.gannett.com/video/4445195866001/1/Donald-Trump-Throws-Out-Latino-Reporter-During-Press-Conference

And then Trump Manager Corey Lewandowski attacked reporter Michelle Fields in Florida; he has been arrested and is awaiting trial. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/corey-lewandowski-charged_us_56fa9acae4b014d3fe24251f

There is vilence all around Donald Trump. It is of his own making.

Original Quill wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:I'm not sure whether what he said qualified as hate  speech, and if it did that's not punishable by vigilante baseball bat justice.

Onl the other hand, I totally understand ...

The US has the First Amendment, which prohibits the banning of any speech.  However, the US has hate crimes, which use hate speech to prove that a physical attack was done with particular malice toward protected classifications.

But...you go gurl.

Down here, if that twat was regularly or persistently standing outside a school, and harassing students, parents and teachers -- as he does --  he would be arrested and charged with being a public nuisance, if he got in front of or blocked someone's passage, he could be charged, and if he even touched somebody deliberately that could be deemed "assault"...

ONE of the essential differences between "Freedom of Expression" as we know it down here, and "Freedom of Speech" as practiced in America -- with regards to idiots like that dickwit, and those Westbro Baptists fruitloops -- is that those habitual troublemakers aren't protected by some imaginsry "rights" to get in other peoples' faces..

SO most of the time, a mad woman like her with the baseball bat, most probably wouldn't feel like she has to go to such extremes down here, as he wouldn't have the chance to become a recurring problem.    

TEACHERS don't have "police" type powers, but they do have that certain responsibilty to help protect students in and around the school, and if a deliberate nuisance doesn't move on, they can call the police.  If the nuisance then assaulted anyone, then anyone nearby could make a "citizen's arrest" here -- as long as they don't use excessive force..  

Very selective there Quill... and you know it!!!


Here's another example...

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/donald-trump-california-protest/



Do you want more...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:Very selective there Quill... and you know it!!!

Here's another example...

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/donald-trump-california-protest/

Do you want more...!?

More of what?  Your mischaracterizations.

Look at a map, tommy.  Where is Costa Mesa?  Southern California, right? It's even south of Los Angeles, in Orange County.

Now, remember grade school?  What is right next to Southern California?  Mexico...good tommy!

Now, write an essay on why Mexicans don't like Trump, and why the American LW need only sit back and sip lemonade.

Shame the bat wasn't made of lead.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/25/dont-blame-trump-supporters-for-the-violence-at-his-rallies/

What are you rabbiting on about you twit, Trump supporters are the equivalent of the preacher.

Tommy Monk wrote:http://nypost.com/2016/05/25/dont-blame-trump-supporters-for-the-violence-at-his-rallies/

So now it's Albuquerque, New Mexico? Where is that, tommy? Hmm...perhaps the name will give it away. I'll speed things up with a map:



That's right, tommy. It's on the border with Mexico. Have you heard? Trump is very unpopular with Mexicans because he has called them rapists, murderers, drug dealers, and he wants to build a wall and make them pay for it.

All the American lefties have to do is watch.

There are other examples...

Tommy Monk wrote:There are other examples...

All showing that Trump's brownshirts started all of the violence.

The difficulties Trump has along the US border with Mexico are problems he has with another constituency. Did you not see the Mexican flag waving above the crowd? There are many, many groups that do not like him.

I don't mean to suggest that the Trump brownshirts are not part of the problem. They are ever-willing to resort to violence, whoever starts it. I am merely pointing out that along the border, it's not the typical lefties.

And...you continue to point to these confrontations, mischaracterizing them as lefties. Mexicans have a big beef with him, too.

Come off it... there has been trouble at plenty of trump rallies from the leftie protesters outside them...


Your willful blindness to this is laughable!!!

For once Tommy has a point.
As much as I would have wanted to wrap a baseball bat around the head of this idiot,. such violence only then justifies the acts of violence against others for their views.
Which is completely wrong, when the best way is to show up how absurd such views held are than to resort to violence.

Much as I think he is an idiot, it was a cowardly attack. He had no idea who had hit him or with what, so she must have approached him from the back or the side when he was talking to the man who was admonishing him.

I think whoever hit him deserves all she gets.

shame she stopped
no sympathy for him he fully deserved it.

I'm glad so many of you are supportive of violently attacking religious nut jobs...






So you would all be cheering if these twats got lynched too...?

Tommy Monk wrote:I'm glad so many of you are supportive of violently attacking religious nut jobs...






So you would all be cheering if these twats got lynched too...?

yep
and those that think they represent all Muslims, any more than this douche represents all christians

The so-called preacher is a well known media whore ...if only the media would stop giving him oxygen. A moron of the highest calibre.

That being said, while his verbiage was disgusting, he has the right to speak it and no matter how gross he is, he doesn't deserve to be attacked. I'm afraid that she was in the wrong and now shecwill have to pay for her actions.

Tommy Monk wrote:Come off it... there has been trouble at plenty of trump rallies from the leftie protesters outside them...

But there hasn't been one that is violent.  Look at the difficulty you have trying to substantiate the claim.  The incidents you cite are with a wholly different constituency...the Hispanic community.  You can't find one incident in which the leftist anti-Trump group has started the violence.

Trump brownshirts have caused all the other violent encounters.

POOR OLD TOMMY  !!!

IN  his world,  all of the world's problems are caused by "lefties".

ALL violence is due to "lefties" --  even when it's only RW thugs, anarchist hooligans or disgruntled locals doing the brawling -- in Tommy's alternative-universe view, it must  be his hated fabled "lefties" causing it..

ALL of Tommy's personal, mental and economic problems are down to those dreaded "lefties".
EVEN WHEN there isn't a genuine left-winger/liberal type within sight  !!!          

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:I'm glad so many of you are supportive of violently attacking religious nut jobs...






So you would all be cheering if these twats got lynched too...?

yep
and those that think they represent all Muslims, any more than this douche represents all christians

we actually agree on something.......

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Come off it... there has been trouble at plenty of trump rallies from the leftie protesters outside them...

But there hasn't been one that is violent.  Look at the difficulty you have trying to substantiate the claim.  The incidents you cite are with a wholly different constituency...the Hispanic community.  You can't find one incident in which the leftist anti-Trump group has started the violence.

Trump brownshirts have caused all the other violent encounters.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/12/us/trump-rally-in-chicago-canceled-after-violent-scuffles.html

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Come off it... there has been trouble at plenty of trump rallies from the leftie protesters outside them...

But there hasn't been one that is violent.  Look at the difficulty you have trying to substantiate the claim.  The incidents you cite are with a wholly different constituency...the Hispanic community.  You can't find one incident in which the leftist anti-Trump group has started the violence.

Trump brownshirts have caused all the other violent encounters.

I put up a diary type video of a black guy who went to a trump rally and he said there were plenty of violent happenings outside.
Just saying.

Quill is in denial...

eddie wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

But there hasn't been one that is violent.  Look at the difficulty you have trying to substantiate the claim.  The incidents you cite are with a wholly different constituency...the Hispanic community.  You can't find one incident in which the leftist anti-Trump group has started the violence.

Trump brownshirts have caused all the other violent encounters.

I put up a diary type video of a black guy who went to a trump rally and he said there were plenty of violent happenings outside.
Just saying.  

You make my case for me. Trump supporters are totally violent. That's why they have earned the name of modern-day brownshirts. I believe your witness...as a black man he probably felt the racial animosity from Trump and his people.

Tommie is making the misguided case that lefties are the ones who are violent. That's like going to a prison riot and saying the guards were rowdy. The only ones who rival the Trump supporters for violence are the Mexicans, at rallies in border areas of New Mexico, Arizona and California. They have some disenchantment with Trump after he called them rapists, murderers, drug dealers and assorted criminals, and threatened to build a wall that Mexico would pay for. Those are not what we call lefties; indeed, there are many rightys among the Hispanic community.

No quill. The black guy was a trump supporter and the violence was happening INSIDE by the protesters.

I will find it and you can watch it.

And btw, he's a police officer too.

eddie wrote:No quill. The black guy was a trump supporter and the violence was happening INSIDE by the protesters.

I will find it and you can watch it.

And btw, he's a police officer too.

But you are missing the real point of the discussion.  Trump supporters initiate all of the violence.  That is why they are called the brownshirts.

The only violence Trump supporters have received has been from the Hispanic community, in the border states.  That is because Trump initiated hostilities, calling them rapists, murderers and criminals, and calling for the building of a wall that Mexico would pay for, to keep them out.

All of Trumps mileage has been built upon making enemies of some group or another.  Whether it is by his own group of brownshirts, or by his adversaries, there certainly does seem to be a lot of violence surrounding Trump. You have to wonder that he so masterfully attracts it.

Bullshit Quill...!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:Bullshit Quill...!!!

Horseshit tommy...!!!

Original Quill wrote:

eddie wrote:No quill. The black guy was a trump supporter and the violence was happening INSIDE by the protesters.

I will find it and you can watch it.

And btw, he's a police officer too.

But you are missing the real point of the discussion.  Trump supporters initiate all of the violence.  That is why they are called the brownshirts.

The only violence Trump supporters have received has been from the Hispanic community, in the border states.  That is because Trump initiated hostilities, calling them rapists, murderers and criminals, and calling for the building of a wall that Mexico would pay for, to keep them out.

All of Trumps mileage has been built upon making enemies of some group or another.  Whether it is by his own group of brownshirts, or by his adversaries, there certainly does seem to be a lot of violence surrounding Trump.  You have to wonder that he so masterfully attracts it.

You're missing the point of what I'm saying.

The guy went
The guy saw violence coming from the protesters toward the trump supporters

Don't know what you're not understanding.

A very stupid thing to do - she could have done some real damage. I see she was also arrested with possessing weed ...

Raggamuffin wrote:A very stupid thing to do - she could have done some real damage. I see she was also arrested with possessing weed ...

Im suprised she could be bothered to hit him

Raggamuffin wrote:A very stupid thing to do - she could have done some real damage. I see she was also arrested with possessing weed ...

I doubt it....people with his kind of views are mainly brain dead anyway....nowt to damage.....

I wonder if he ever thought about the damage he has been doing to gay people all these years.   If they were already in a bad state, he could have led to one of them killing themselves.

eddie wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

But you are missing the real point of the discussion.  Trump supporters initiate all of the violence.  That is why they are called the brownshirts.

The only violence Trump supporters have received has been from the Hispanic community, in the border states.  That is because Trump initiated hostilities, calling them rapists, murderers and criminals, and calling for the building of a wall that Mexico would pay for, to keep them out.

All of Trumps mileage has been built upon making enemies of some group or another.  Whether it is by his own group of brownshirts, or by his adversaries, there certainly does seem to be a lot of violence surrounding Trump.  You have to wonder that he so masterfully attracts it.

You're missing the point of what I'm saying.

The guy went
The guy saw violence coming from the protesters toward the trump supporters

Don't  know what you're not understanding.

But your diary-guy is ill-equipped to say who the violent ones are.  Nor can he say who started it.  Look at your own reporting of your dairy-guy's report.  First you say it happened outside (“plenty of violent happenings outside”).  Then you say it happened inside (“...and the violence was happening INSIDE by the protesters”).  Can you see how slippery the stories become?  I would rather trust those whose business it is to gather facts.

Conservatives lie, and that's something you can bet on.  They lie much more than liberals do because they have much more to hide.  Why do you think they resort to violence in the first place?  Violence is often a form of compensatory behavior, obscuring the frustration one feels knowing s/he is wrong.  Conservatives inevitably build upon negative feelings, and that is clearly evident with Trump and Trump supporters.  Alienation of Mexico?  Vilifying women?  Outlawing a religion?  Hating veterans?  Disrespect of the disabled?  The list goes on, and on, and on. The internal conflict they must feel is enough to drive them to violence.