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The story of a swearing-in of a Muslim Mayor
Did you hear the one about the Mayor who happens to be Muslim being sworn in at Buck house 'What sort of bible would you like Sir?
Sadiq Khan's story of being sworn into the Privy Council.
The politics of hope win out over the politics of fear.
It's the last sentence that gets you. I'm sure the Islamaphobes will be having heart attacks lol
Sadiq Khan's story of being sworn into the Privy Council.
The politics of hope win out over the politics of fear.
It's the last sentence that gets you. I'm sure the Islamaphobes will be having heart attacks lol
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His religion matters not a jot to me, I am only interested in whether he can clean up the mess Boris Gump made of London.
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Me too, but the idiot from Britain First who stood and got completely trounced, actually turned his back on Sadiq when he was making his acceptance speech. So it certainly matters to fools like him.
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I think it's brilliant he beat Goldsmith. Don't really know much about him, doesn't appear to be a fan of Corbyn. Fantastic opportunity for him to make clear that Muslims can live in this country integrated and law abiding upholding our values. Look forward to seeing how he deals with radical Islam and those to want to kill us on the one hand whilst taking from us with the other.
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Have to say, Khan is intellectual, smartly dressed,articulate, moderate and a very handsome guy ( in a non homophobic way).
That makes him very electable and a very serious threat to the Conservatives.
Which is why they tried to smear him. Lynton Crosby is losing his touch.
That makes him very electable and a very serious threat to the Conservatives.
Which is why they tried to smear him. Lynton Crosby is losing his touch.
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Well,said nems
And HA??? You really didn't need to put the "in a non homophobic way" bit in?
It actually makes no sense but I think you meant "in a non homosexual way"
Which wasn't necessary at all. You can say anyone is good-looking without assuming people think you fancy them. We are adults!
And HA??? You really didn't need to put the "in a non homophobic way" bit in?
It actually makes no sense but I think you meant "in a non homosexual way"
Which wasn't necessary at all. You can say anyone is good-looking without assuming people think you fancy them. We are adults!
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I found this very interesting:
Saul O, May 8th 2016, 10:21 am
Yesterday, Pakistani human rights activist and editor of Let Us Build Pakistan, Khurram Zaki published this statement on Facebook:
Let Us Build Pakistan has said:
However, until now, he has often chosen to work uncritically with, and sometimes to defend, those tied to precisely those Islamist groups which promote – on political and theological grounds – hatred and ultimately violence against liberals.
Muslim liberals in particular.
As Maajid Nawaz notes:
Ironically, Sadiq Khan’s election demonstrates that he does not need the support of Islamist groups and hatemongers in order to succeed in London. However, nationally, pandering to that constituency will be one of the factors which keeps Labour out of power for another generation.
The calculus in the past, for many in Labour has been:
“Will I lose more votes in cities than I gain by working with Islamists and Hamas fans and turning a blind eye to antisemitism?”
In London, the answer to that question is “no”. Not even now that the problem has become headline news. Not in safe Labour seats in cities, certainly.But the size of Sadiq Khan victory prove that you do not need their votes for Labour to win.By contrast, nationally, the answer to that question is “yes”. You cannot present yourself as an anti-racist, progressive party without opposing racists and theocrats. The voters understand this, even if many Labour activists still do not.
Sadiq Khan, a liberal Muslim on a journey away from a politics which was prevalent, and may now even be dominant with the grassroots of the Labour Party can make a virtue of necessity. It is a strength he can play to.There has been a tendency in Labour to turn a blind eye to those within the party who have chummed up with Islamist groups which promote theocracy and hatred. Some have tried to make a distinction between those who support Islamist states abroad: as long as they do not support it in the United Kingdom.
That stance is both bad politics and bad principle. The Left is nothing if it does not hold to its liberal values. It is nothing if it does not show the clearest solidarity with liberals such as Khurram Zaki. It is nothing if it is not internationalist. After all, their Islamist opponents are most certainly men of principle, and internationalists to boot.Those who murder in Karachi see no reason not to murder in London. They are no respecters of national borders.
A hallmark of Sadiq Khan’s mayoralty should be a clear stance against hatred and divisive rhetoric and politics. He should make it clear that he won’t have any truck with organisations and institutions which sponsor and promote hatemongers. If he attends their meetings, he should not simply deliver platitudes, as he did at the conference of the hate preacher promoting FOSIS. Rather, he should take the opportunity to promote the liberal values that he cherishes.As well as helping to detoxify Labour, such a clear stance would have the additional effect of weakening the far Left within Labour, which is wedded to its alliances with Islamists and pro-Hamas groups, and contains more than a few people who are antisemites.
Does Khan have the courage to do this. Will he dodge the issue, talk in generalities, and carry on working with the hatemongers, with the justification that we need a “Big Tent” and that you can’t just talk to “Uncle Toms”.If he does so, it would be the wrong choice. It would also be a betrayal of solidarity with comrades such as Khurram Zaki.
http://hurryupharry.org/2016/05/08/sadiq-khan-and-khurram-zaki-stand-with-liberals-against-islamists/
Saul O, May 8th 2016, 10:21 am
Yesterday, Pakistani human rights activist and editor of Let Us Build Pakistan, Khurram Zaki published this statement on Facebook:
Hours later, he was murdered, it is believed by Islamist gunmen.“Sadiq Khan is not a Pakistani. He is a Britisher. Credit for his rise and success goes to his own hard work and the equal opportunity quality of the British system. Pakistan and Islam have played no role in his meteoric rise. And he has proved for all British Muslims and Brits of other ethnicities that anyone who blames that system as biased and discriminatory that they are lazy and liars. I am celebrating the greatness of Western Secular Democracy. In this day and age of Takfiri Deobandi/Wahabi terrorism and Islamophobia, London has risen above discrimination and bigotry and emerged as great centre of human civilisation setting a great example for the world. Can we ever elect an Ahmadi or Hindu or Christian PM? Forget that, we have deprived all legal powers and discretions of a democratically elected Mayor of the third largest city in the world (Karachi) on the basis of ethnicity.
And it’s so stupid and shameful of us Pakistanis that we run down humiliate our own successes like Malala and Sharmeen.”
Let Us Build Pakistan has said:
Sadiq Khan, the new Mayor of London is a liberal. He supported gay marriage. He was one of the first to speak out against Ken Livingstone.For the last one year, Shaheed Khurram Zaki was a target of a systematic hate campaign organized by Deobandi fanatic, Shamsuddin Amjad of the Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan in collaboration with the banned Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP aka ASWJ/LeJ). In particular, hateful and violence inciting posters against Shaheed Khurram Zaki had been published recently by the Mashal Facebook page run by Shamsuddin Amjad, Asad Wasif and a few other pro-Taliban fanatics of Jamaat-e-Islami.
Shaheed Kurram Zaki was a bigger journalist and rights activist with more valuable credentials and contributions than those in mainstream media or NGOs who remain silent on or obfuscate systematic target killing of Shia Muslims, Sunni Sufis Muslims, Christians and other communities in Pakistan at the hands of Takfiri Deobandi militants.
Khurram Zaki took a principled and courageous stance against the notorious Lal Masjid Deobandi cleric, Abdul Aziz, when the latter refused to condemn the same Taliban/ASWJ terrorists who killed 150 school children in Peshawar. Zaki’s bold and unwavering stance against this cleric brought him to the attention of the Takfiri Deobandi nexus which is also responsible for 100% of suicide bombings in Pakistan.
In boldly highlighting and supporting the rights of Sunni Barelvis, Shias, Sufis, Ahmadis, Hindus and Christians, his contribution as citizen journalism was much bigger than all journalists combined in Pakistan. His death is the grim reminder that whoever raises voice against Taliban, ASWJ/LeJ and Jamaat-e-Islami Deobandi mafia in Pakistan will not be spared. And when they have to murder, they never fail.
However, until now, he has often chosen to work uncritically with, and sometimes to defend, those tied to precisely those Islamist groups which promote – on political and theological grounds – hatred and ultimately violence against liberals.
Muslim liberals in particular.
As Maajid Nawaz notes:
Sadiq Khan is no Muslim extremist. And it is not only his track record voting for gay rights that proves this. Having known him when I was a Muslim extremist, I know that he did not subscribe to my then theocratic views.
…
Again, Khan is no Muslim extremist. Indeed, this cannot be repeated enough. Nor can the fact that Khan clearly has a record of terribly poor judgment in surrounding himself with Islamists and Muslim extremists, and in using them for votes.
Ironically, Sadiq Khan’s election demonstrates that he does not need the support of Islamist groups and hatemongers in order to succeed in London. However, nationally, pandering to that constituency will be one of the factors which keeps Labour out of power for another generation.
The calculus in the past, for many in Labour has been:
“Will I lose more votes in cities than I gain by working with Islamists and Hamas fans and turning a blind eye to antisemitism?”
In London, the answer to that question is “no”. Not even now that the problem has become headline news. Not in safe Labour seats in cities, certainly.But the size of Sadiq Khan victory prove that you do not need their votes for Labour to win.By contrast, nationally, the answer to that question is “yes”. You cannot present yourself as an anti-racist, progressive party without opposing racists and theocrats. The voters understand this, even if many Labour activists still do not.
Sadiq Khan, a liberal Muslim on a journey away from a politics which was prevalent, and may now even be dominant with the grassroots of the Labour Party can make a virtue of necessity. It is a strength he can play to.There has been a tendency in Labour to turn a blind eye to those within the party who have chummed up with Islamist groups which promote theocracy and hatred. Some have tried to make a distinction between those who support Islamist states abroad: as long as they do not support it in the United Kingdom.
That stance is both bad politics and bad principle. The Left is nothing if it does not hold to its liberal values. It is nothing if it does not show the clearest solidarity with liberals such as Khurram Zaki. It is nothing if it is not internationalist. After all, their Islamist opponents are most certainly men of principle, and internationalists to boot.Those who murder in Karachi see no reason not to murder in London. They are no respecters of national borders.
A hallmark of Sadiq Khan’s mayoralty should be a clear stance against hatred and divisive rhetoric and politics. He should make it clear that he won’t have any truck with organisations and institutions which sponsor and promote hatemongers. If he attends their meetings, he should not simply deliver platitudes, as he did at the conference of the hate preacher promoting FOSIS. Rather, he should take the opportunity to promote the liberal values that he cherishes.As well as helping to detoxify Labour, such a clear stance would have the additional effect of weakening the far Left within Labour, which is wedded to its alliances with Islamists and pro-Hamas groups, and contains more than a few people who are antisemites.
Does Khan have the courage to do this. Will he dodge the issue, talk in generalities, and carry on working with the hatemongers, with the justification that we need a “Big Tent” and that you can’t just talk to “Uncle Toms”.If he does so, it would be the wrong choice. It would also be a betrayal of solidarity with comrades such as Khurram Zaki.
http://hurryupharry.org/2016/05/08/sadiq-khan-and-khurram-zaki-stand-with-liberals-against-islamists/
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There are videos of him promoting Islam extremist or something similar going found Facebook.
I haven't clicked on them so don't know if they're true or propaganda
I haven't clicked on them so don't know if they're true or propaganda
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Why did he wheel doreen Lawrence along at the church thing at the weekend...!?
And not bring Lee rigby's mum or Danny o'shea's mum along too... in the name of equality etc...!?
And not bring Lee rigby's mum or Danny o'shea's mum along too... in the name of equality etc...!?
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Tommy Monk wrote:Why did he wheel doreen Lawrence along at the church thing at the weekend...!?
And not bring Lee rigby's mum or Danny o'shea's mum along too... in the name of equality etc...!?
Hasn't the family made it abundantly clear that they don’t want to be used as political pawns?
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They have. And Doreen Lawrence is a Labour member and campaigned for Khan.
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While doreen Lawrence is more than happy to be a political pawn... and more than happy for all the govt money she has had too!!!
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All for 'charity' of course...
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You are a vile little man, she's an amazing woman and her charity to respect her son has done amazing work for underprivileged children and she has just as much right to campaign for the party she feels will do the most good as any other citizen has.
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Tommy Monk wrote:All for 'charity' of course...
Here we go again with the hate you have for Mrs Laurence. Why are you so sceptical of her?
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Perhaps you would like to read it's annual audit Tommy? http://www.stephenlawrence.org.uk/annual-report
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eddie wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:All for 'charity' of course...
Here we go again with the hate you have for Mrs Laurence. Why are you so sceptical of her?
Because he's a vile, racist SOB.
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Lee Rigby.
Danny O'shea.
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[quote="sassy"]Did you hear the one about the Mayor who happens to be Muslim being sworn in at Buck house 'What sort of bible would you like Sir?
Sadiq Khan's story of being sworn into the Privy Council.
The politics of hope win out over the politics of fear.
It's the last sentence that gets you. I'm sure the Islamaphobes will be having heart attacks lol[/quote]
Oh they are
Sadiq Khan's story of being sworn into the Privy Council.
The politics of hope win out over the politics of fear.
It's the last sentence that gets you. I'm sure the Islamaphobes will be having heart attacks lol[/quote]
Oh they are
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In the same context Tommy, how do you feel about Baroness Newlove?Tommy Monk wrote:While doreen Lawrence is more than happy to be a political pawn... and more than happy for all the govt money she has had too!!!
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Handy Andy wrote:Have to say, Khan is intellectual, smartly dressed,articulate, moderate and a very handsome guy ( in a non homophobic way).
That makes him very electable and a very serious threat to the Conservatives.
Which is why they tried to smear him. Lynton Crosby is losing his touch.
Aye, he's easy on the eye - I'll agree there.
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sassy wrote:eddie wrote:
Here we go again with the hate you have for Mrs Laurence. Why are you so sceptical of her?
Because he's a vile, racist SOB.
AND, We all know that Tommy doesn't believe in charity...
INDEED, not a charitable bone in his scrawny and decrepid little body..
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Tommy is entitled to his opinion without being abused for it.
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Tommy Monk wrote:While doreen Lawrence is more than happy to be a political pawn... and more than happy for all the govt money she has had too!!!
What do the choices of Lawrence have to do with the Rigby family or anybody else? Should Khan have forced them to attend?
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It seems that someone doesn't approve of me saying that Tommy is entitled to his opinion. Someone with a massive ego gave me a red for that post. I expect they think their opinion is far more important than anything.
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I agree that Tommy is entitled to his opinion - everyone is, that's why we are here.
No idea why anyone would red stripe you for stating the obvious
No idea why anyone would red stripe you for stating the obvious
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Miffs2 wrote:In the same context Tommy, how do you feel about Baroness Newlove?Tommy Monk wrote:While doreen Lawrence is more than happy to be a political pawn... and more than happy for all the govt money she has had too!!!
How do you mean?
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eddie wrote:I agree that Tommy is entitled to his opinion - everyone is, that's why we are here.
No idea why anyone would red stripe you for stating the obvious
Oh well, it has a little bit of green now.
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Raggamuffin wrote:eddie wrote:I agree that Tommy is entitled to his opinion - everyone is, that's why we are here.
No idea why anyone would red stripe you for stating the obvious
Oh well, it has a little bit of green now.
Was from me!
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Tommy Monk wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Oh well, it has a little bit of green now.
Was from me!
Thank you Tommy. I think two people gave me a red because they can't handle the truth.
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She got a seat in the House of Lords, a makeover and a lucrative career after her husband was killed, is she a political pawn?Tommy Monk wrote:Miffs2 wrote:
In the same context Tommy, how do you feel about Baroness Newlove?
How do you mean?
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Also set up another charity that does amazing work.
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Was she there too...?
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Raggamuffin wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Oh well, it has a little bit of green now.
Was from me!
Thank you Tommy. I think two people gave me a red because they can't handle the truth.
I gave you another red`
Tommy is entitled to his opinion and that opinion makes him a racsit SOB like sassy said.
Free speech does NOT mean speech without consequence, it is only fair that upon uttering his opinon that Tommy is Vilified as the ignorant shit he is. AND that is many peopels opinion which they are JUST as entitled to as Tommy is entiteld to his racist lies.
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Free speech to idiots like veya means you are only allowed to say what his lot will allow you to say.. or else...!
Bit like how those in North Korea have to cheer for the cameras in favour of the permitted official line...
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Free speech to idiots like veya means you are only allowed to say what his lot will allow you to say.. or else...!
Bit like how those in North Korea have to cheer for the cameras in favour of the permitted official line...
How the hell did you get that from what he just said?
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yes tommy
You think Your free speech protects you from MY free speech
That is not the way it works! IF YOU Have the right to express your ignorant hate, I have the right to express my hatred of your ignorant hate.
Judge an idividual by the content of their charater, You display the content of your charater and people are judging it..
THAT IS EQUALITY you are being Judged For YOU! not the colour of your skin, your relgion, social standing.. Purely on the Opinons you express.
You think Your free speech protects you from MY free speech
That is not the way it works! IF YOU Have the right to express your ignorant hate, I have the right to express my hatred of your ignorant hate.
Judge an idividual by the content of their charater, You display the content of your charater and people are judging it..
THAT IS EQUALITY you are being Judged For YOU! not the colour of your skin, your relgion, social standing.. Purely on the Opinons you express.
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Good luck to him. He seems a decent and genuine guy and yes, a bit of a hottie as well. MUCH better than Boris and Ken
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veya_victaous wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Thank you Tommy. I think two people gave me a red because they can't handle the truth.
I gave you another red`
Tommy is entitled to his opinion and that opinion makes him a racsit SOB like sassy said.
Free speech does NOT mean speech without consequence, it is only fair that upon uttering his opinon that Tommy is Vilified as the ignorant shit he is. AND that is many peopels opinion which they are JUST as entitled to as Tommy is entiteld to his racist lies.
I was right when I said this then.
Someone with a massive ego gave me a red for that post. I expect they think their opinion is far more important than anything.
Tommy was talking about Doreen Lawrence when he was subjected to abuse. As much as she deserves sympathy for the murder of her son, not everyone is smitten by her.
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Ben_Reilly wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:
Free speech to idiots like veya means you are only allowed to say what his lot will allow you to say.. or else...!
Bit like how those in North Korea have to cheer for the cameras in favour of the permitted official line...
How the hell did you get that from what he just said?
Tommy is right. The arrogance emanating from your co-administrator is astonishing at times.
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Cass wrote:Good luck to him. He seems a decent and genuine guy and yes, a bit of a hottie as well. MUCH better than Boris and Ken
Hehe!
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Ben_Reilly wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:
Free speech to idiots like veya means you are only allowed to say what his lot will allow you to say.. or else...!
Bit like how those in North Korea have to cheer for the cameras in favour of the permitted official line...
How the hell did you get that from what he just said?
BASICALLY, because that's how Tommy Monks perverse and delapidated brain chemistry works...
HE IS incapable of thinking clear and rational thoughts; but rather simply reacts against whatever he perceives as a threat..
MUCH like the way that an amoeba, bacterium or mould reacts to their environment.
THAT'S WHY misanthropes like Tommy, Stormee and ''Dean" are often labelled Reactionaries..
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veya_victaous wrote:yes tommy
You think Your free speech protects you from MY free speech
That is not the way it works! IF YOU Have the right to express your ignorant hate, I have the right to express my hatred of your ignorant hate.
Judge an idividual by the content of their charater, You display the content of your charater and people are judging it..
THAT IS EQUALITY you are being Judged For YOU! not the colour of your skin, your relgion, social standing.. Purely on the Opinons you express.
I gave you a red for that. After all, you didn't like me expressing my opinion that Tommy was entitled to his opinion, so I don't approve of you saying that you're entitled to your opinion.
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See what I mean...?
Where is freedom of speech when you have the regular idiots poised ready to jump up and down on anything you say that THEY don't like...!?
Armed with their sixhirb insults designed purely to try to shut you up!!!
And this coming from veya who recently posted that he wished to see 80% of us British people dead!!!
I'm presuming the 20% he would like to see saved are the non white British people...?
But he thinks he has some moral authority to call me a racist...!?
What a complete cretin!!!
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See what I mean...?
Where is freedom of speech when you have the regular idiots poised ready to jump up and down on anything you say that THEY don't like...!?
Armed with their sixhirb insults designed purely to try to shut you up!!!
And this coming from veya who recently posted that he wished to see 80% of us British people dead!!!
I'm presuming the 20% he would like to see saved are the non white British people...?
But he thinks he has some moral authority to call me a racist...!?
What a complete cretin!!!
Yes - after Veya's recent rant, I'm surprised he has the nerve. I'm sure he only meant English people though. He was racist about white people in another thread too.
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He's a leftie... therefore a hypocrite!!!
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Tommy Monk wrote:He's a leftie... therefore a hypocrite!!!
It's also amazing how few people actually condemned his rant, even before he made his fake apology. You say the slightest thing and all hell breaks loose.
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Because they are lefties... therefore hypocrites!!!
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