Today at 11am: Hillsborough tragedy....verdict

In Warrington the jury in the Hilsborough Inquests will begin delivering their verdicts. The long fight for truth may be coming to a close and then the fight for justice through the courts can begin.

JUSTICE FOR THE 96

YNWA

Unlawfully killed!!!
Yes yes yes

Supported contributed to disaster?

no no no!!

OMG
At last at long fucking last

See jury response here, to each question:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hillsborough-disaster-inquest-verdict-live-7828711

YNWA

Thank God. About time.

Absolutely fantastic news.

Now let's get criminal proceedings underway!

Hillsborough criminal investigations 'to send files to CPS by year end'


What that long?

sassy wrote:Hillsborough criminal investigations 'to send files to CPS by year end'


What that long?

Every vital case for human protection or justice is delayed. I will never forget how many of us felt on that day, it was like the world stopped.

I don't really understand that. If people are going into a tunnel which is clearly already full of people, how did they not contribute to what happened?

I also don't understand why the situation had never arisen before. Why did so many fans suddenly turn up late?

Rags. If memory serves me correctly, it was somethjng to do with them opening another gate so that the tunnel became a bottleneck.

I saw it live, not that I was watching the footbal, my brother was.
It was absolutely horrific.

In case I got that wrong, thisn will explain it:

Events began to unfold from around 1430 on what was a bright and sunny day. The game was to be a repeat of the 1988 semi-final, in which Liverpool had faced Nottingham Forest at the same venue.
Liverpool fans had begun arriving at the ground from midday, but had to enter their designated stand at Leppings Lane through a small number of decrepit turnstiles.
Once inside, many made their way on to the terraced lower stand which was ringed with blue-painted steel fences and laterally divided into five separate "pens".
Fencing had been put up by many football clubs during the 1970s and 80s to control crowds and prevent pitch invasions.
Liverpool fans outside Hillsborough stadium, 1989
A crush of supporters built up outside the ground
By about 1450, pens 3 and 4 - those directly behind the goal - were full, but outside the ground thousands of fans were still waiting to get in.
The pens' official combined capacity was 2,200. It was later discovered that this should have been reduced to 1,600 as crush barriers installed three years earlier did not meet official safety standards.
At 1452, police ordered a large exit gate - Gate C - to be opened to alleviate the crush outside the ground. Around 2,000 fans then made their way into the ground and headed straight for a tunnel leading directly to pens 3 and 4.
This influx caused severe crushing in the pens. Fans began climbing over side fences into the relatively less packed pens 1 and 5 to escape.
It was later estimated that more than 3,000 supporters were admitted to the central pens - almost double the "safe" capacity.
At 1500, the game kicked off. Five minutes later a crush barrier in pen 3 gave way, causing people to fall on top of each other.
Hillsborough disaster, 1989
Ambulances were hindered in getting into the ground
Supporters continued to climb perimeter fences to escape, while others were dragged to safety by fans in the upper tiers.
At 1506, a policeman ran on to the pitch and ordered the referee to stop the game. In the chaotic aftermath, supporters tore up advertising hoardings to use as makeshift stretchers and tried to administer first aid to the injured.
The authorities' response to the disaster was slow and badly co-ordinated. Firefighters with cutting gear had difficulty getting into the ground, and although dozens of ambulances were dispatched, access to the pitch was delayed because police were reporting "crowd trouble".
Of the 96 people who died, only 14 were ever admitted to hospital.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7992845.stm

It is hard to say much as it has all been said many times before.

I just hope that all get closure now but I doubt it.

What I don't understand is why the situation hadn't arisen before - in 1988, for example.

Also, why would fans try to go into a tunnel which was already clearly full? Maybe I'll look at a map of the grounds.

The police made huge mistakes and lied about it....hopefully now justice will be seen to be done at last.

Thought this summed it up very nicely

Raggamuffin wrote:Also, why would fans try to go into a tunnel which was already clearly full? Maybe I'll look at a map of the grounds.

Hi Rags
ITV tonight 10.20 Jimmy McGovern's Hillsborough documentary. It will answer a lot of your questions. It is the truth that was covered up for 27 years.