Britain Must Make £25Billion More Savings Says Osborne

grumpy old git wrote:Vast? welfare budget?

The idiocy continues....remove pensions from the budget and whats left, i.e the safety net benefits are UTTERLY insignificant

(and I notice that NO ONE on the R/W has taken up my challenge to prove otherwise  :/pwn://: )

Of course no even half way sane politician would attack pensions directly, the grey vote would wipe em out come election time. And i m not suggesting that pensions should be targeted.

what public services would I cut

the race relations body....un needed, there is sufficient statute law and HR law to ensure things in this sphere...no need for a "specialist unit" costing millions

HS2...unwanted and pointless (though I suppose it might ...just ... employ a few brits)

there are others but I cant be arsed to go looking for my list

on top of that

All football matches to FULLY fund policing and the necessary ambulance attendance

All late night pubs and night clubs to FULLY fund policing in the area during opening times
similarly they have to pay as much as is necessary to a fund locally to provide emergency medical cover in the area during opening hours

oh I have a list alright...a very long one

top of the list though.....get rid of 400 expensive, useless, pathetic, spineless wasters who sit in a certain "house" on the Thames and replace them with people who are there on the basis of MERIT, not privilege

PhilDidge wrote:

grumpy old git wrote:Vast? welfare budget?

The idiocy continues....remove pensions from the budget and whats left, i.e the safety net benefits are UTTERLY insignificant

(and I notice that NO ONE on the R/W has taken up my challenge to prove otherwise  :/pwn://: )

Of course no even half way sane politician would attack pensions directly, the grey vote would wipe em out come election time. And i m not suggesting that pensions should be targeted.

what public services would I cut

the race relations body....un needed, there is sufficient statute law and HR law to ensure things in this sphere...no need for a "specialist unit" costing millions

HS2...unwanted and pointless (though I suppose it might ...just ... employ a few brits)

there are others but I cant be arsed to go looking for my list

on top of that

All football matches to FULLY fund policing and the necessary ambulance attendance

All late night pubs and night clubs to FULLY fund policing in the area during opening times
similarly they have to pay as much as is necessary to a fund locally to provide emergency medical cover in the area during opening hours

oh I have a list alright...a very long one

top of the list though.....get rid of 400 expensive, useless, pathetic, spineless wasters who sit in a certain "house" on the Thames and replace them with people who are there on the basis of MERIT, not privilege

Very daft proposal to say the least as you are selective over business paying for Police services whilst others escape without paying anything, where for example most problems are dealt with in a night club by licensed door staff, why should they also pay for Police when disturbances will be few and far between that need police involvement?

firstly I'm NOT talking about the disturbances IN a night club, I'm talking about the collosal cost of having a substantial police presence almost every thursday friday and saturday night in and around town centers where these places are..Where do you live, you are either blind or live in the sticks somewhere. Every weekend is riot time in some places, its so common place it hardly gets a mention.

so...who provides the alcohol that fuel these idiots....thats right the pubs and clubs....so they should pay....why should MY council tax be inflated to provide the policing that THEY cause?

Race relations body is needed because there is problems with discrimination, such stupidity would allow problems of discrimination.

Why, the law of the land is now robust enough if used correctly, It doesnt need an over expensive body to oversee it.

Why football clubs? Not Rugby, Not Cricket, concerts?
Why selective over this?

when was the last time you saw a riot at a cricket match

Medical cover, where will you draw the line, people who smoke have to put a down payment for payment problems in life?  
Again, I'm talking about the pub and club induced drunken idiots who need medical attention, a regular and costly feature of weekends for most A&E. The pubs and clubs fuel it...so they should pay

   

PhilDidge wrote:

grumpy old git wrote:Vast? welfare budget?

The idiocy continues....remove pensions from the budget and whats left, i.e the safety net benefits are UTTERLY insignificant

(and I notice that NO ONE on the R/W has taken up my challenge to prove otherwise  :/pwn://: )

Of course no even half way sane politician would attack pensions directly, the grey vote would wipe em out come election time. And i m not suggesting that pensions should be targeted.

what public services would I cut

the race relations body....un needed, there is sufficient statute law and HR law to ensure things in this sphere...no need for a "specialist unit" costing millions

HS2...unwanted and pointless (though I suppose it might ...just ... employ a few brits)

there are others but I cant be arsed to go looking for my list

on top of that

All football matches to FULLY fund policing and the necessary ambulance attendance

All late night pubs and night clubs to FULLY fund policing in the area during opening times
similarly they have to pay as much as is necessary to a fund locally to provide emergency medical cover in the area during opening hours

oh I have a list alright...a very long one

top of the list though.....get rid of 400 expensive, useless, pathetic, spineless wasters who sit in a certain "house" on the Thames and replace them with people who are there on the basis of MERIT, not privilege

Very daft proposal to say the least as you are selective over business paying for Police services whilst others escape without paying anything, where for example most problems are dealt with in a night club by licensed door staff, why should they also pay for Police when disturbances will be few and far between that need police involvement?

Race relations body is needed because there is problems with discrimination, such stupidity would allow problems of discrimination.

Why football clubs? Not Rugby, Not Cricket, concerts?
Why selective over this?

Medical cover, where will you draw the line, people who smoke have to put a down payment for payment problems in life?      

grumpy old git wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Very daft proposal to say the least as you are selective over business paying for Police services whilst others escape without paying anything, where for example most problems are dealt with in a night club by licensed door staff, why should they also pay for Police when disturbances will be few and far between that need police involvement?

firstly I'm NOT talking about the disturbances IN a night club, I'm talking about the collosal cost of having a substantial police presence almost every thursday friday and saturday night in and around town centers where these places are..Where do you live, you are either blind or live in the sticks somewhere. Every weekend is riot time in some places, its so common place it hardly gets a mention.

so...who provides the alcohol that fuel these idiots....thats right the pubs and clubs....so they should pay....why should MY council tax be inflated to provide the policing that THEY cause?

Race relations body is needed because there is problems with discrimination, such stupidity would allow problems of discrimination.

Why, the law of the land is now robust enough if used correctly, It doesnt need an over expensive body to oversee it.

Why football clubs? Not Rugby, Not Cricket, concerts?
Why selective over this?

when was the last time you saw a riot at a cricket match

Medical cover, where will you draw the line, people who smoke have to put a down payment for payment problems in life?  
Again, I'm talking about the pub and club induced drunken idiots who need medical attention, a regular and costly feature of weekends for most A&E. The pubs and clubs fuel it...so they should pay

   

PhilDidge wrote:

grumpy old git wrote:

1) There is hardly any Police presence even less than there is during the day, so that is complete and utter bull I am afraid. When working on the weekend it is no different from any other night, the Police still go about their routines, thus you are making institutions unfairly pay for something. You are also taking away the responsibility of the drinkers themselves, when they themselves are responsible for how much they drink and if get out of line should pay fines if drunken and disorderly. You again are making a business accountable for how people themselves choose to drink. What next making the food industries accountable for people getting fat?


What???????????????????? you MUST seriously be kidding.... where do you live...on the moon????
chrisake, I am close to a small country town and weekend police presence is massive for the drunken dickheads....moreove gawd help you if you want a copper at those times...there aint any available...they are all sweeping up popheads


2) It still needs to tackle of what there is clearly discrimination in this country, the latest reports on convicting shows a massive disparity between whites and ethnic groups for the same crimes

Then the law should be used correctly...

3) And how often do you really see trouble at footie these days? This is not the seventies and the reality is only the Premier Leagues could afford to do so, the other divisions would be bankrupt. Though again I have no problem with the Premiership contributing.

4) Okay point for mistook what you meant