Australian University decides to Create Pseudo History for Australia

by Guest Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:12 am

Australian university accused of 'rewriting history' over British invasion language

The University of New South Wales guidelines, which are not mandatory, say Australia was "invaded, occupied and colonised"
An Australian university has been accused of rewriting history after it encouraged students to use the terms "invaded" and "occupied" for the arrival of British settlers. The University of New South Wales (UNSW) Indigenous Terminology guide, which states that Australia was "invaded, occupied and colonised", has drawn an angry reaction in some quarters.

Referring to Captain James Cook's arrival in Botany Bay in 1770, a headline in the conservative Daily Telegraph newspaper in Sydney said: "UNSW rewrites the history books to state Cook 'invaded' Australia". Alan Jones, a Conservative radio host, said: "Don't try and restrict the thinking of university students by some so-called diversity toolkit on Indigenous terminology rubbish which dictates game, set and match that Cook's arrival in New South Wales must be referred to as an invasion.

"One student might well argue in favour of invasion and another in favour of settlement. The argument should be judged on its quality. But prejudice and political correctness are anathema to genuine scholarship and learning."

The university defended the guidelines, insisting it was not mandatory for students to use the language.
"It uses a more appropriate, less appropriate format," a UNSW spokesperson told the BBC.
"The guide suggests referring to Captain Cook as the first Englishman to map the continent's East Coast is 'more appropriate' than referring to his 'discovery' of Australia."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/12207016/Australian-university-accused-of-rewriting-history-over-British-invasion-language.html

The funniest part I read was this:

The guide also suggests using the terms "Indigenous Australian people" or "Aboriginal peoples" instead of "Aborigines" or "the Aboriginal people", to avoid suggesting all Indigenous Australians are the same. It says using the term "complex and diverse societies" is more appropriate than using words such as "primitive", "simple", "native" and "prehistoric".

And what did someone else say this morning and clearly has not been to the latest Regressive leftist classes on this

veya_victaous wrote:Primitive Hill shepherds think of themselves as Flemish and Wallons. because some archaic backwards bullshit Belgium is such a minor irrelevant nation that it is just laughable that they think anyone would consider dividing them further. most of the world just thinks of them a French anyway.

Best they do not see the above this University, he will be sent to regressive school for 8 years

lol!

by 'Wolfie Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:17 pm

by eddie Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:18 pm

I can see how this thread is going to go..... Rolling Eyes

by veya_victaous Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:00 pm

well it is dumb
Captain Cook lead the exploration fleet than mapped the coast
Governor Arthur Phillip lead the invasion/colonisation

Rolling Eyes

And I tell didge that they are not 'one people' ALL the time cause he is so racsits tongue

Those little nations where primitive just like Belgium which is why they are all superseded by Australia. that’s the point how many of the Aboriginal nations have remained independent? None. so how many of the European nations that are equally primitive will remain standing if you don’t work together ... probably none.
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I know didge prefers talk to action, day dreams to reality, propaganda to facts, but some of us live in the real world
Cool

by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:22 am

veya_victaous wrote:well it is dumb
Captain Cook lead the exploration fleet than mapped the coast
Governor Arthur Phillip lead the invasion/colonisation

And I tell didge that they are not 'one people' ALL the time cause he is so racsits

Those little nations where primitive just like Belgium which is why they are all superseded by Australia. that’s the point how many of the Aboriginal nations have remained independent? None. so how many of the European nations that are equally primitive will remain standing if you don’t work together ... probably none.

I know didge prefers talk to action, day dreams to reality, propaganda to facts, but some of us live in the real world

Again yet again an abuse of the word racism being used

We are one people, as humans biologically are one species, so again you are fundamentally wrong.
Its nationalities, cultures, ethnic groups and social constructs most of these inventions created to identify us different and mainly because of people who have unfounded views that dislike or hate groups of people.

Again a real abuse of the word primitive, because the Europeans being as they are some of the most technological advanced nations and have been for centuries would make your terminology be best placed in the realms of scientific pseudo racism of the 19th century

Happy to help further education your many errors

Razz

by 'Wolfie Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:33 am

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WHEN IS that silly old Dodger going to stop with his endless lies and propaganda ???

HIS constant refusal to actually do any research at all, before launching his next inevitable round of propaganda and hatemongering, brings into question both his claim to an Honours in History, and the rather parlous state of the poor wee lads mental health..
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by veya_victaous Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:00 am

Didge wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:well it is dumb
Captain Cook lead the exploration fleet than mapped the coast
Governor Arthur Phillip lead the invasion/colonisation

And I tell didge that they are not 'one people' ALL the time cause he is so racsits

Those little nations where primitive just like Belgium which is why they are all superseded by Australia. that’s the point how many of the Aboriginal nations have remained independent? None. so how many of the European nations that are equally primitive will remain standing if you don’t work together ... probably none.

I know didge prefers talk to action, day dreams to reality, propaganda to facts, but some of us live in the real world

Again yet again an abuse of the word racism being used

We are one people, as humans biologically are one species, so again you are fundamentally wrong.
Its nationalities, cultures, ethnic groups and social constructs most of these inventions created to identify us different and mainly because of people who have unfounded views that dislike or hate groups of people.

Again a real abuse of the word primitive, because the Europeans being as they are some of the most technological advanced nations and have been for centuries would make your terminology be best placed in the realms of scientific pseudo racism of the 19th century

Happy to help further education your many errors

Are you English?
Suspect

I rest my Case
Razz

by Guest Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:01 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Didge wrote:

Again yet again an abuse of the word racism being used

We are one people, as humans biologically are one species, so again you are fundamentally wrong.
Its nationalities, cultures, ethnic groups and social constructs most of these inventions created to identify us different and mainly because of people who have unfounded views that dislike or hate groups of people.

Again a real abuse of the word primitive, because the Europeans being as they are some of the most technological advanced nations and have been for centuries would make your terminology be best placed in the realms of scientific pseudo racism of the 19th century

Happy to help further education your many errors

Are you English?

I rest my Case

I am an English Citizen and of Irish/Sicilian/Maltese ethnicity

I rest my case

Razz

by Raggamuffin Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:10 am

eddie wrote:I can see how this thread is going to go.....

Me too - more racism from Veya about the English. Cool

by nicko Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:48 am

I now laugh at his posts and his Country.
They can't all be like him can they?

Bet he didn't know when I was 19 I fought for the Australian Regiment in Nam, the men I fought with were real Aussies not a idiotic prick like him!

by Raggamuffin Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:53 am

nicko wrote:I now laugh at his posts and his Country.
They can't all be like him can they?

Bet he didn't know when I was 19 I fought for the Australian Regiment in Nam, the men I fought with were real Aussies not a idiotic prick like him!

Don't mention Australia's involvement in Vietnam - Veya will have a fit! Surprised

by veya_victaous Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:27 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
nicko wrote:I now laugh at his posts and his Country.
They can't all be like him can they?

Bet he didn't know when I was 19 I fought for the Australian Regiment in Nam, the men I fought with were real Aussies not a idiotic prick like him!

Don't mention Australia's involvement in Vietnam - Veya will have a fit!

it the nations shame, it is a big part of the reason we changed so people like nicko would think we were pricks.

Ironically many real Aussie now look like the men he shot at

by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:58 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Don't mention Australia's involvement in Vietnam - Veya will have a fit!

it the nations shame, it is a big part of the reason we changed so people like nicko would think we were pricks.

Ironically many real Aussie now look like the men he shot at

Now you insult all those who lost their lives.
It was a time when a fear of communism was rife and many view this fear with dread and good reason based on the genocide committed by both Mao and Stalin. One of the worst aspects but needed aspects is that we got into bed with Stalin to defeat Nazism. It was needed, but so was needed was to free Russia from a bloody tyrant. You lefties fail at every single turn to understand how things are viewed differently in time and it was not intervention that was the issue in Vietnam, it was how America conducted the conflict. There was a threat a real threat to the democratic south which due to the poor strategic policies cost the South its independence in Vietnam.

Nothing worse than a regressive lefty insulting countless of the many brave and gallant Australians who fought and in many cases with an exemplary record

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:05 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Don't mention Australia's involvement in Vietnam - Veya will have a fit!

it the nations shame, it is a big part of the reason we changed so people like nicko would think we were pricks.

Ironically many real Aussie now look like the men he shot at

You mean they look like the men your fellow citizens shot at.

by nicko Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:17 am

Hope Australia never gets caught up in a war in the future, if the likes of Veya are called up they might as well surrender straight away because cowardly pricks like him would run at the first shot!

by 'Wolfie Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:30 am

nicko wrote:..................

Bet he didn't know when I was 19 I fought for the Australian Regiment in Nam, the men I fought with were real Aussies not a idiotic prick like him!

FOR ALL any of us know, veya's father or an uncle may have been in the Aussie military at the time ?

IF I were 10 years older, I would have had to register to be availabe for Conscription -- as it was, I was fortunate enough as to be still at school when the Vietnam war finished..

Here's a song just for nicko :

https://youtu.be/Urtiyp-G6jY

by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:33 am

Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Defence – Republic of Vietnam Cross of Gallantry with Palm Unit Citation awarded to the 1st Battalion, The Royal Australian Regiment

11 May 2015

Australian Defence Force (ADF) members who served with the 1st Battalion, The Royal Australian Regiment (1RAR) in Vietnam 50 years ago have been recognised with the Republic of Vietnam Cross of Gallantry with Palm Unit Citation (CGWP).
The Governor-General, His Excellency General the Honourable Sir Peter Cosgrove AK, MC (Retd) has formally approved the awarding of the Citation in recognition of the military assistance provided to the former Republic of Vietnam while under the operational command of the United States 173rd Airborne Brigade.
Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Defence, Darren Chester welcomed the decision.
“I am delighted to confirm that the Republic of Vietnam Cross of Gallantry with Palm Unit Citation will be awarded to members of 1 RAR,” Mr Chester said.
“This decision follows a three year review by the Defence Honours and Awards Appeal Tribunal who determined that the awarding of the Cross of Gallantry with Palm Unit Citation was intended not only for the 173rd Airborne Brigade, but also the Australian forces who operated under their command.”
“This award finally acknowledges those Australian soldiers and recognises the important contribution they made 50 years ago.”
In May 1965, the Australian Government agreed to provide military assistance to the Republic of Vietnam. Initially, 1 RAR was restricted to operating in the Bien Hoa tactical area of responsibility (TAOR). When the 173rd Airborne Brigade deployed to operate away from Bien Hoa, 1 RAR was left to conduct operations within the Bien Hoa TAOR and to provide defence for the air base. However, on 30 September 1965 the Australian Prime Minister agreed to lift the restrictions on the deployment of 1 RAR. For the remainder of their tour of duty in Vietnam, the members of 1 RAR served alongside the other units of 173rd Airborne Brigade on every operation and became the third battalion of the Brigade.
1 RAR participated in seven operations with 173rd Airborne Brigade between 5 May 1965 and 31 May 1966 that were referred to in the citation that awarded the Republic of Vietnam CGWP to 173rd Airborne Brigade.
About the Republic of Vietnam Cross of Gallantry with Palm Unit Citation
The Citation was awarded by the former Government of the Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) to specific military units that distinguished themselves in battle.
To be eligible for the CGWP members must have served in Vietnam under the command of 173rd Airborne Brigade from 5 May 1965 to 31 May 1966 in one of the following units;
– 1st Battalion, The Royal Australian Regiment
– 1st Armoured Personnel Carrier Troop RAAC
– 105th Field Battery, RAA
– 3rd Field Troop, RAE
– 161st Reconnaissance Flight, AAAVN
– 1st Australian Logistic Support Company
– Battery Section, 4th Field Regiment Light Aid Detachment RAEME
(and redesignated in country to 105th Field Battery Section, 12th Field Regiment Light Aid Detachment RAEME).
Media note:
Further details about the award and eligibility requirements are available at: http://www.army.gov.au/Army-life/Honours-and-Awards
Imagery is available through the Defence Image Gallery at: http://images.defence.gov.au/S20151297
Applications for Defence medals can be made at: http://www.defence.gov.au/Medals/Content/Applications.asp
Media contacts:
Brie Colley (Darren Chester’s Office) 0475 962 448
Defence Media Operations (02) 6127 1999

by veya_victaous Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:34 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Don't mention Australia's involvement in Vietnam - Veya will have a fit!

it the nations shame, it is a big part of the reason we changed so people like nicko would think we were pricks.

Ironically many real Aussie now look like the men he shot at

You mean they look like the men your fellow citizens shot at.

that is correct
that it is why it is a national shame to have been involved

by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:40 am

Social attitudes and treatment of veterans[edit]

The Vietnam Forces National Memorial, Canberra

Initially there was considerable support for Australia's involvement in Vietnam, and all Australian battalions returning from Vietnam participated in well attended welcome home parades through either Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane or Townsville, even during the early 1970s.^[109] Regardless, as opposition to the war increased service in Vietnam came to be seen by sections of the Australian community in less than sympathetic terms and opposition to it generated negative views of veterans in some quarters. In the years following the war, some Vietnam veterans experienced social exclusion and problems readjusting to society. Nevertheless, as the tour of duty of each soldier during the Vietnam War was limited to one year (although some soldiers chose to sign up for a second or even a third tour of duty), the number of soldiers suffering from combat stress was probably more limited than it might otherwise have been.^[110]
In addition to the negative sentiments towards returned soldiers from some sections of the anti-war movement, some Second World War veterans also held negative views and attitudes toward the Vietnam War veterans. As a result, many Australian Vietnam veterans were excluded from joining the Returned Servicemen's League (RSL) during the 1960s and 1970s on the grounds that the Vietnam War veterans did not fight a "real war".^[111] The response of the RSL varied across the country, and while some rejected Vietnam veterans, other branches, particularly those in rural areas, were said to be very supportive.^[111] Nevertheless, many Vietnam veterans were excluded from marching in ANZAC Dayparades during the 1970s because some soldiers of earlier wars saw the Vietnam veterans as unworthy heirs to the ANZAC title and tradition, a view which hurt many Vietnam veterans and resulted in continued resentment towards the RSL.^[111] Regardless, in 1972 the RSL decided that Vietnam veterans should lead the march, which attracted large crowds throughout the country.^[112]
Australian Vietnam veterans were honoured at a "Welcome Home" parade in Sydney on 3 October 1987, and it was then that a campaign for the construction of the Vietnam War Memorial began.^[113] This memorial, known as the Vietnam Forces National Memorial, was established on ANZAC Parade in Canberra, and was dedicated on 3 October 1992.^[114]

by veya_victaous Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:45 am

Umm didge the fact we recognize it isn't the solider fault a lot being conscripts doesn't mean it isn't a national shame

by Guest Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:46 am

veya_victaous wrote:Umm didge the fact we recognize it isn't the solider fault a lot being conscripts doesn't mean it isn't a national shame

The conflict was not wrong either as it was an aggressive North trying to impose its will on the democratic south

It was how the war was fought by the US and its methods that was wrong.

They never learned from how to use hearts and minds as the British have used extensively

Showing again you understand history very little

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