Would You want To Be Served By Autistic Waiter?
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Reading that brought tears to my eyes.
The man can do he job, he has autism not an infectious disease.
The people who complain about being served by him are bastards.....end of.
The man can do he job, he has autism not an infectious disease.
The people who complain about being served by him are bastards.....end of.
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Andy, who was diagnosed with autism seven years ago, said: “I always feel that it’s automatically my fault and I go into defence mode. I always think I have to apologise.
I think that's normal for people who work in restaurants, shops, and cafes anyway.
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Unless he's being violent, rude or shoddy to diners, what is he doing any differently to someone without autism???
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One of my brothers is autistic ,he is about a year younger than me but was only recently diagnosed
We always knew he was different as kids but it was never really talked about it our parents thought he was just a bit "soft" and in those days high functioning autistic`s where seen as eccentric or wierd and it went undiagnosed
But he is fairly high functioning autistic ,it wasn`t till my mum went in to a home because he could not care for her as she has dementia that it became apparent something needed done ,he was seen by a psychologist and was diagnosed with severe autism
but eddies right it depends on the way the autistic person interacts with others
We always knew he was different as kids but it was never really talked about it our parents thought he was just a bit "soft" and in those days high functioning autistic`s where seen as eccentric or wierd and it went undiagnosed
But he is fairly high functioning autistic ,it wasn`t till my mum went in to a home because he could not care for her as she has dementia that it became apparent something needed done ,he was seen by a psychologist and was diagnosed with severe autism
but eddies right it depends on the way the autistic person interacts with others
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korban dallas wrote:One of my brothers is autistic ,he is about a year younger than me but was only recently diagnosed
We always knew he was different as kids but it was never really talked about it our parents thought he was just a bit "soft" and in those days high functioning autistic`s where seen as eccentric or wierd and it went undiagnosed
But he is fairly high functioning autistic ,it wasn`t till my mum went in to a home because he could not care for her as she has dementia that it became apparent something needed done ,he was seen by a psychologist and was diagnosed with severe autism
but eddies right it depends on the way the autistic person interacts with others
Tell you what, I've known lots of people in my life and the ones with autism or ADHD cause me far less irritations than others
I'd hire an autistic person. They like routine - need it mostly, so will always do a diligent job - they are also bloody hard workers and as long as you make their co-workers aware that sudden noises or disruptions need to caters for and 'softened'....well I cannot see a problem.
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Well said .eddie wrote:korban dallas wrote:One of my brothers is autistic ,he is about a year younger than me but was only recently diagnosed
We always knew he was different as kids but it was never really talked about it our parents thought he was just a bit "soft" and in those days high functioning autistic`s where seen as eccentric or wierd and it went undiagnosed
But he is fairly high functioning autistic ,it wasn`t till my mum went in to a home because he could not care for her as she has dementia that it became apparent something needed done ,he was seen by a psychologist and was diagnosed with severe autism
but eddies right it depends on the way the autistic person interacts with others
Tell you what, I've known lots of people in my life and the ones with autism or ADHD cause me far less irritations than others
I'd hire an autistic person. They like routine - need it mostly, so will always do a diligent job - they are also bloody hard workers and as long as you make their co-workers aware that sudden noises or disruptions need to caters for and 'softened'....well I cannot see a problem.
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personally I'd have told the diners...like it or f**k off
me bein all subtle like.....
me bein all subtle like.....
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Wish people, wouldn't treat them like aliens, it pisses me off.
They're often very smart people and they have feelings just like everyone else!!
They're often very smart people and they have feelings just like everyone else!!
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your righteddie wrote:Wish people, wouldn't treat them like aliens, it pisses me off.
They're often very smart people and they have feelings just like everyone else!!
I see it almost everyday
most people don`t mean to be "insensitive"
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The only thing that matters in terms of a person having a job is whether they can do that job to an acceptable level of competence.
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Syl wrote:Reading that brought tears to my eyes.
The man can do he job, he has autism not an infectious disease.
The people who complain about being served by him are bastards.....end of.
100% Rght
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Stormee wrote:I you are not actually there how can anyone make a judgement, different autism people can be just that, different.
Well, Stormee; a high functioning 'Asperger/Autistic Human'...has to be able to read/write/apply for the jobs just like everyone else - they too have to follow directions - learn their jobs and maintain a professional attitude---depending on the specific job.
And for your dining pleasure; I'd lay odds on that they are highly more aware of sanitary matters then the common 'John/Jane Q Public' that has handled your food/your drink/sneezed over your plate prior to presenting it to you for your dining pleasure!
For some rather odd reason, children/young adults diagnosed with Autism are for more likely to be OCD about things like washing their hands as instructed after any germy substance or bathroom breaks ---
Do you think that the rest of the serving staff behave in the same way???
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Then why ask the question ?Stormee wrote:I you are not actually there how can anyone make a judgement, different autism people can be just that, different.
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korban dallas wrote:Then why ask the question ?Stormee wrote:I you are not actually there how can anyone make a judgement, different autism people can be just that, different.
I think we know why lol
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I don't think I'd know if someone was autistic or not. I know one person who says he has asperger's but he just seems normal to me.
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Most are raggsRaggamuffin wrote:I don't think I'd know if someone was autistic or not. I know one person who says he has asperger's but he just seems normal to me.
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Stormee wrote:korban dallas wrote:
Then why ask the question ?
That is easy KD, to see how people think.
Hmmm, so what you posted in your opening OP was >>>
Kin eck kin ell kin ada, this will get ya going.
I would not be too keen but depending on the severity.
I want my dining experience to be pleasant.
Geeze Louise, dear man...you do seem to post in some peculiar ways?
But, then again, I've been told that I can't be understood either
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korban dallas wrote:Most are raggsRaggamuffin wrote:I don't think I'd know if someone was autistic or not. I know one person who says he has asperger's but he just seems normal to me.
Why are they labelled as having asperger's then? The person I know says he is, but I just can't see anything "different" about him. I don't get it.
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disability's on the inside are hard to see and can manifest in many ways not immediately obvious or even detrimentalRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
Most are raggs
Why are they labelled as having asperger's then? The person I know says he is, but I just can't see anything "different" about him. I don't get it.
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korban dallas wrote:disability's on the inside are hard to see and can manifest in many ways not immediately obvious or even detrimentalRaggamuffin wrote:
Why are they labelled as having asperger's then? The person I know says he is, but I just can't see anything "different" about him. I don't get it.
Others have said they think he has asperger's though. Oh well - I just think that there are too labels around just to describe personality traits.
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what is it with you and this almost baby talk ?Stormee wrote:wen won poasts to peculiar peepul it rubz orf on won
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korban dallas wrote:what is it with you and this almost baby talk ?Stormee wrote:wen won poasts to peculiar peepul it rubz orf on won
An affectation, because when he wants to he can post properly, so obviously does it to cover something. Bit like his opening post was hoping people would say they wouldn't want to have an autistic waiter that would 'spoil his dinner', followed by backtracking when he realised other people would be very offended by that point of view.
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asperger diagnosis is quite specialised my brother had to go to Sheffield to see a professor and it was a two hour interview with written supporting doctors and family accountsRaggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
disability's on the inside are hard to see and can manifest in many ways not immediately obvious or even detrimental
Others have said they think he has asperger's though. Oh well - I just think that there are too labels around just to describe personality traits.
i had to write about what he was like as a kid, fortunately the now head of social services in his area is a friend we went to school with him so that was a great help and he has been instrumental in getting him the help he needed
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korban dallas wrote:asperger diagnosis is quite specialised my brother had to go to Sheffield to see a professor and it was a two hour interview with written supporting doctors and family accountsRaggamuffin wrote:
Others have said they think he has asperger's though. Oh well - I just think that there are too labels around just to describe personality traits.
i had to write about what he was like as a kid, fortunately the now head of social services in his area is a friend we went to school with him so that was a great help and he has been instrumental in getting him the help he needed
OK. I just think there's a danger that some people who might seem a little different might be labelled when there's no need for it.
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i am the last person to lecture somebody on there spelling but i am dyslexicsassy wrote:korban dallas wrote:
what is it with you and this almost baby talk ?
An affectation, because when he wants to he can post properly, so obviously does it to cover something. Bit like his opening post was hoping people would say they wouldn't want to have an autistic waiter that would 'spoil his dinner', followed by backtracking when he realised other people would be very offended by that point of view.
but this isn`t that
its just annoying
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korban dallas wrote:i am the last person to lecture somebody on there spelling but i am dyslexicsassy wrote:
An affectation, because when he wants to he can post properly, so obviously does it to cover something. Bit like his opening post was hoping people would say they wouldn't want to have an autistic waiter that would 'spoil his dinner', followed by backtracking when he realised other people would be very offended by that point of view.
but this isn`t that
its just annoying
Makes you want to shake him and tell him not to be such a prat.
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Your not wrong they have been cases in the past where some ass hole has tried to pull off a con that he had asperger`s to claim extra benefit but ultimately failed. who knows if some have succeeded ?Raggamuffin wrote:korban dallas wrote:
asperger diagnosis is quite specialised my brother had to go to Sheffield to see a professor and it was a two hour interview with written supporting doctors and family accounts
i had to write about what he was like as a kid, fortunately the now head of social services in his area is a friend we went to school with him so that was a great help and he has been instrumental in getting him the help he needed
OK. I just think there's a danger that some people who might seem a little different might be labelled when there's no need for it.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Others have said they think he has asperger's though. Oh well - I just think that there are too labels around just to describe personality traits.korban dallas wrote:
disability's on the inside are hard to see and can manifest in many ways not immediately obvious or even detrimental
But for whatever reason you seem incapable of doing any of your own reading --- you just speak and get proven how LAZY/LAME you are!
Asperger's is part of the entire Autism Spectrum = meaning that there are many - many different levels of being diagnosed with Autism.
Here are 10 classic symptoms of Asperger’s syndrome. If you are worried about yourself or a loved one having this syndrome, talk to your doctor about screening options.1. Failure to Develop Friendships
Children who have Asperger’s syndrome may have difficulty cultivating friendships. They may not connect with their peers due to a lack of social skills. They may find it hard to talk to other children or to participate in group activities.
This can be difficult for a child with Asperger’s as they may want very deeply to connect with their peers. Oppositely, some children with Asperger’s have no desire to make friendships and will prefer to be by themselves.2. Selective Mutism
Young children with Asperger’s may demonstrate selective mutism as a symptom. This occurs when they will only speak freely with people they are comfortable with, and may not speak at all to strangers. Extreme cases last for years. Immediate family members are typically unaffected, as the child often feels comfortable speaking to them.
Selective mutism more often occurs at school and in public and some children may refuse to speak to anyone starting from a very young age. This condition can go away on its own, or your child may benefit from therapy.3. Inability to Empathize
Individuals with Asperger’s syndrome may find difficulty empathizing with others. As they age, the affected person will learn the accepted social response for interacting with others. While they may react appropriately and say the “right” things, they may not understand why the other person is truly upset.
This can be an issue in childhood as the individual with Asperger’s may play too roughly with their peers or say harsh things, unknowingly hurting the other person. When confronted for this behavior, the child may respond that what they said was true and that they do not understand the issue.4. Unable to Make Eye Contact or Forcing Eye Contact
People who suffer from Asperger’s syndrome may find it difficult to make and hold eye contact with people they are speaking to. Some believe this condition is brought about from a lack of confidence. Others recount how making eye contact can make them very uncomfortable, almost painful.
There is also the theory that people with Asperger’s syndrome do not realize how important eye contact is for social communication. This may lead to the opposite problem of forcing eye contact. This can make people even more uncomfortable, while the individual with Asperger’s believes they are being more approachable.5. Social Awkwardness
The idea that people with Asperger’s syndrome are not passionate is completely wrong. One common term professionals use to describe people who suffer from this illness is “active but odd”. They may become very socially active, forming close friendships.
Others may try to surround themselves with people, making lots of close acquaintances, but no deep friendships. This can be related to how well the individual empathizes with others. People with Asperger’s syndrome may not show many outward signs of this illness.6. Narrowed Interests
Individuals with Asperger’s syndrome may do poorly in school, but that is not to say they don’t have specific interests. Instead, their interests are likely very narrowed and focused. It could be playing video games, making models, or drawing.
These activities focus their minds and provide a sense of comfort for them. If they are forced to leave their projects, they may become distressed. Likewise, if their projects are failing. Fostering these narrowed interests is important for emotional and mental support.7. Sticking to Routine
Sticking to a routine can be very important for people with Asperger’s syndrome. They may become greatly distressed and anxious when their schedule changes. New situations can be frightening.
A routine can help manage the anxiety of people with Asperger’s syndrome. Thankfully, much of our world runs on tight schedules. If you suspect your child may have Asperger’s syndrome, putting them on a tight schedule may be an effective way to help manage some of their symptoms.8. Literal Interpretations
One of the symptoms of Asperger’s syndrome is literally interpreting what people say. The affected individual may not understand sarcasm, instead taking what the person has said as truth. The idea that people with Asperger’s syndrome do not understand humor is wrong.
These individuals may be the funniest people you have ever met. When they realize the fault of their literal interpretations, they are able to understand the true meaning behind what is being said, perhaps with some explanation.9. Excellent Pattern Recognition
Another symptom of Asperger’s syndrome is the amazing ability to recognize patterns. Often these individuals’ brains are trying to make sense of their surroundings, so a break in pattern may show itself quite clearly.
This ability may be evident in childhood, as early schooling develops the neural pathways of pattern recognition. While children with Asperger’s syndrome may find the school setting difficult and struggle with their grades, pattern problems like math and in art may be very enriching. Fostering this natural talent is a great idea.10. Poor Motor Skills
Some people with Asperger’s syndrome may find it difficult to control their gross and fine motor skills. The motor issues may manifest through poor handwriting thought to be caused by poor hand-eye coordination.
If you or someone you know experiences any of the symptoms indicated, it’s best to seek medical attention. While these symptoms do not necessarily mean the individual has Asperger’s, it’s always best to seek the advice of a medical professional.
http://www.activebeat.co/your-health/10-symptoms-of-aspergers-syndrome/10/
And the same rational applies to the Asperger's end of the Autism Spectrum; any child could have 1 - 10 of the listed symptoms or just a couple of the less drastic one - or a entire mixture of more intense symptoms with 2 or 3 underlying ones!
That's why getting tested early allows the educator/teaching staff to work out a PLAN for helping the child learn as they grow!
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Stormee wrote:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6979012/Chef-slams-customers-who-refused-to-be-served-by-autistic-waiter-in-his-restaurant.html
Kin eck kin ell kin ada, this will get ya going.
I would not be too keen but depending on the severity.
I want my dining experience to be pleasant.
For God's sake, the poor guy is trying to make an honest living. He's also looking after his mum. If that had been my restaurant I'd have given those cruel bastards their marching orders. Why can't people just have some tolerance and patience and fucking compassion?
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aspca4ever wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
Others have said they think he has asperger's though. Oh well - I just think that there are too labels around just to describe personality traits.
But for whatever reason you seem incapable of doing any of your own reading --- you just speak and get proven how LAZY/LAME you are!
Asperger's is part of the entire Autism Spectrum = meaning that there are many - many different levels of being diagnosed with Autism.Here are 10 classic symptoms of Asperger’s syndrome. If you are worried about yourself or a loved one having this syndrome, talk to your doctor about screening options.1. Failure to Develop Friendships
Children who have Asperger’s syndrome may have difficulty cultivating friendships. They may not connect with their peers due to a lack of social skills. They may find it hard to talk to other children or to participate in group activities.
This can be difficult for a child with Asperger’s as they may want very deeply to connect with their peers. Oppositely, some children with Asperger’s have no desire to make friendships and will prefer to be by themselves.2. Selective Mutism
Young children with Asperger’s may demonstrate selective mutism as a symptom. This occurs when they will only speak freely with people they are comfortable with, and may not speak at all to strangers. Extreme cases last for years. Immediate family members are typically unaffected, as the child often feels comfortable speaking to them.
Selective mutism more often occurs at school and in public and some children may refuse to speak to anyone starting from a very young age. This condition can go away on its own, or your child may benefit from therapy.3. Inability to Empathize
Individuals with Asperger’s syndrome may find difficulty empathizing with others. As they age, the affected person will learn the accepted social response for interacting with others. While they may react appropriately and say the “right” things, they may not understand why the other person is truly upset.
This can be an issue in childhood as the individual with Asperger’s may play too roughly with their peers or say harsh things, unknowingly hurting the other person. When confronted for this behavior, the child may respond that what they said was true and that they do not understand the issue.4. Unable to Make Eye Contact or Forcing Eye Contact
People who suffer from Asperger’s syndrome may find it difficult to make and hold eye contact with people they are speaking to. Some believe this condition is brought about from a lack of confidence. Others recount how making eye contact can make them very uncomfortable, almost painful.
There is also the theory that people with Asperger’s syndrome do not realize how important eye contact is for social communication. This may lead to the opposite problem of forcing eye contact. This can make people even more uncomfortable, while the individual with Asperger’s believes they are being more approachable.5. Social Awkwardness
The idea that people with Asperger’s syndrome are not passionate is completely wrong. One common term professionals use to describe people who suffer from this illness is “active but odd”. They may become very socially active, forming close friendships.
Others may try to surround themselves with people, making lots of close acquaintances, but no deep friendships. This can be related to how well the individual empathizes with others. People with Asperger’s syndrome may not show many outward signs of this illness.6. Narrowed Interests
Individuals with Asperger’s syndrome may do poorly in school, but that is not to say they don’t have specific interests. Instead, their interests are likely very narrowed and focused. It could be playing video games, making models, or drawing.
These activities focus their minds and provide a sense of comfort for them. If they are forced to leave their projects, they may become distressed. Likewise, if their projects are failing. Fostering these narrowed interests is important for emotional and mental support.7. Sticking to Routine
Sticking to a routine can be very important for people with Asperger’s syndrome. They may become greatly distressed and anxious when their schedule changes. New situations can be frightening.
A routine can help manage the anxiety of people with Asperger’s syndrome. Thankfully, much of our world runs on tight schedules. If you suspect your child may have Asperger’s syndrome, putting them on a tight schedule may be an effective way to help manage some of their symptoms.8. Literal Interpretations
One of the symptoms of Asperger’s syndrome is literally interpreting what people say. The affected individual may not understand sarcasm, instead taking what the person has said as truth. The idea that people with Asperger’s syndrome do not understand humor is wrong.
These individuals may be the funniest people you have ever met. When they realize the fault of their literal interpretations, they are able to understand the true meaning behind what is being said, perhaps with some explanation.9. Excellent Pattern Recognition
Another symptom of Asperger’s syndrome is the amazing ability to recognize patterns. Often these individuals’ brains are trying to make sense of their surroundings, so a break in pattern may show itself quite clearly.
This ability may be evident in childhood, as early schooling develops the neural pathways of pattern recognition. While children with Asperger’s syndrome may find the school setting difficult and struggle with their grades, pattern problems like math and in art may be very enriching. Fostering this natural talent is a great idea.10. Poor Motor Skills
Some people with Asperger’s syndrome may find it difficult to control their gross and fine motor skills. The motor issues may manifest through poor handwriting thought to be caused by poor hand-eye coordination.
If you or someone you know experiences any of the symptoms indicated, it’s best to seek medical attention. While these symptoms do not necessarily mean the individual has Asperger’s, it’s always best to seek the advice of a medical professional.
http://www.activebeat.co/your-health/10-symptoms-of-aspergers-syndrome/10/
And the same rational applies to the Asperger's end of the Autism Spectrum; any child could have 1 - 10 of the listed symptoms or just a couple of the less drastic one - or a entire mixture of more intense symptoms with 2 or 3 underlying ones!
That's why getting tested early allows the educator/teaching staff to work out a PLAN for helping the child learn as they grow!
Agreed, the more education and help they get, the more likely they are to have a decent life.
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HoratioTarr wrote:Stormee wrote:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6979012/Chef-slams-customers-who-refused-to-be-served-by-autistic-waiter-in-his-restaurant.html
Kin eck kin ell kin ada, this will get ya going.
I would not be too keen but depending on the severity.
I want my dining experience to be pleasant.
For God's sake, the poor guy is trying to make an honest living. He's also looking after his mum. If that had been my restaurant I'd have given those cruel bastards their marching orders. Why can't people just have some tolerance and patience and fucking compassion?
Because some people are absolutely pig ignorant unfortunately. I'd have emptied their dinners over their heads before I threw them out.
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