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Post by Ben Reilly Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:59 pm

Saudi Arabia has a bleak future ahead, remember this report?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/world/persian-gulf-heat-climate-change/
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Post by 'Wolfie Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:55 am

Many of those gulf states have been in deep doo doo for the past 30-40 years,   basically for one good reason --  most of their national resources are tied up one single product ==  crude oil...

Many of their major competitors - such as the USA, Malaysia, Russia, Brazi, Mexico, Indonesia, and the likes -  have more widely diversified economies;  so that in these cyclical price downturns while these countries head towards a recession, those OPEC members are often racing headlong into a depression..
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Post by 'Wolfie Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:40 am

I think it might have been KIng Fahd who a few years ago said (my paraphrasing..), in relation to the OPEC states :

"Our fathers rode camels, we drive Mercedes, our sons fly jets.
Eventually our grandchildren will again ride camels."

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Post by nicko Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:28 am

A report on Sky News said, the batteries only last for about 5 years then new ones have to be installed. At a cost of £5000 or more there will a lot of dumped cars.
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Post by 'Wolfie Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:48 pm

nicko wrote:A report on Sky News said,   the batteries only last for about 5 years then new ones have to be installed.  At a cost of £5000 or more there will a lot of dumped cars.

I'VE read that one of the reasons that the whole battery pack is replaced so early, is that the car manufacturers have set around 80% of it's original capacity as the time for replacement.

DOWN here, the estimated cost for replacement batteries is around $10-15,000AUD -- or around 10-25% of the vehicles replacement costs (the cheapest fully electric car here is around $50k, while the most expensive is the Tesla sports coupe, at $200k).

OBVIOUSLY these costs need to be factored in the over-full-life running costs for these vehicles..

BECAUSE those used battery packs (actually a bank of several dozen batteries conected together in a cage..) are still in good condition, there is already a secondary market developing for them; where some enterprising companies are using them for backup systems for solar power arrays,  and in rural, remote area and industrial situations...

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