Joining Isis

by Major Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:16 am

If a relative of yours wanted to join Isis would you do anything to stop them, report them to police or what?

by Andy Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:13 pm

Are you asking for our opinion or for advice?

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:14 pm

Handy Andy wrote:Are you asking for our opinion or for advice?

by eddie Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:17 pm

Hahahah HA very good.

In answer to the OP, I'd call a family meeting, try talking and if that got nowhere....possibly report them.

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:20 pm

I'd lock them in their bedroom and take their computer away! Twisted Evil

And no tea, so there!!!!

by eddie Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:53 pm

sassy wrote:I'd lock them in their bedroom and take their computer away! And no tea, so there!!!!

What if it was an adult, like your brother, who has his own house lol

by Original Quill Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:13 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:I'd lock them in their bedroom and take their computer away! And no tea, so there!!!!

What if it was an adult, like your brother, who has his own house lol

I would gather up affidavits of relatives declaring him to be of unfit mind, go to court and have him declared incompetent, sell his house, and go to Vegas. Turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.

by Major Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:25 pm

If it was your one and only son, what would you do?

by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:26 pm

Stormee wrote:If it was your one and only son, what would you do?

Try to reason with him, and if that didn't work, have him committed.

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:31 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Stormee wrote:If it was your one and only son, what would you do?

Try to reason with him, and if that didn't work, have him committed.

Similar method in Islam itself for apostacy, they try to reason by offering them to repent and if they do not they are executed.
Their punishment is just harsher.

Peronally I would make them watch video after video of love songs, people being good to each other etc
Kindness and love can be a far more powerful tool

by eddie Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:45 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:I'd lock them in their bedroom and take their computer away! And no tea, so there!!!!

What if it was an adult, like your brother, who has his own house lol

I would gather up affidavits of relatives declaring him to be of unfit mind, go to court and have him declared incompetent, sell his house, and go to Vegas. Turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.

Best answer yet. cheers

by eddie Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:56 pm

Didge wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Stormee wrote:If it was your one and only son, what would you do?

Try to reason with him, and if that didn't work, have him committed.

Similar method in Islam itself for apostacy, they try to reason by offering them to repent and if they do not they are executed.
Their punishment is just harsher.

Peronally I would make them watch video after video of love songs, people being good to each other etc
Kindness and love can be a far more powerful tool

If you made me watch video after video of love songs I'd fucking shoot YOU! Shocked

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:58 pm

eddie wrote:
Didge wrote:

Similar method in Islam itself for apostacy, they try to reason by offering them to repent and if they do not they are executed.
Their punishment is just harsher.

Peronally I would make them watch video after video of love songs, people being good to each other etc
Kindness and love can be a far more powerful tool

If you made me watch video after video of love songs I'd fucking shoot YOU!

In your case I would not need to do that, I would just make you watch Mary Poppins, Sound of Music, My Fair Lady lol

by Victorismyhero Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:37 pm

If it were my son?

well lets look at this

firstly if he was going to join isis he would have had to have converted to Islam.....

at that point he would have ceased to be my son

he would have been disowned and disinherited

so I would have no problem in denouncing him to the authorities

and YES Sassy.....I WOULD

by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:52 pm

Didge wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Stormee wrote:If it was your one and only son, what would you do?

Try to reason with him, and if that didn't work, have him committed.

Similar method in Islam itself for apostacy, they try to reason by offering them to repent and if they do not they are executed.
Their punishment is just harsher.

Peronally I would make them watch video after video of love songs, people being good to each other etc
Kindness and love can be a far more powerful tool

Committing people to a mental institution often helps them turn their lives around -- it's not a punishment.

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:59 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Didge wrote:

Similar method in Islam itself for apostacy, they try to reason by offering them to repent and if they do not they are executed.
Their punishment is just harsher.

Peronally I would make them watch video after video of love songs, people being good to each other etc
Kindness and love can be a far more powerful tool

Committing people to a mental institution often helps them turn their lives around -- it's not a punishment.

But its a false premise

Are you then saying anyone who believes in islam is mentally unbalanced?

I mean do not get me wrong I think its off the charts why people believe, but is it being clincially of a mental health issue, even if they follow extreme views?
What next, someone of racist views to the extent of Nazism?
What you are saying is you want to commit people of differening views to you?

Is that not what used to happen a few centuries ago Ben?

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:17 pm

Lord Foul wrote:If it were my son?

well lets look at this

firstly if he was going to join isis he would have had to have converted to Islam.....

at that point he would have ceased to be my son

he would have been disowned and disinherited

so I would have no problem in denouncing him to the authorities

and YES Sassy.....I WOULD

I'm sure you would. I on the other hand would never, under any circumstances, give up on my kids and would fight for their welfare to my dying breath. There is nothing they could do that would stop me loving them. They might do something I utterly despise and condemn, but that would not stop me loving them and trying to help get them back on track.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:20 pm

Didge wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

Try to reason with him, and if that didn't work, have him committed.

Similar method in Islam itself for apostacy, they try to reason by offering them to repent and if they do not they are executed.
Their punishment is just harsher.

Peronally I would make them watch video after video of love songs, people being good to each other etc
Kindness and love can be a far more powerful tool

Not that ghastly track by Whitney Houston or the awful Titanic one though - that would drive them insane.

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:22 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:

Similar method in Islam itself for apostacy, they try to reason by offering them to repent and if they do not they are executed.
Their punishment is just harsher.

Peronally I would make them watch video after video of love songs, people being good to each other etc
Kindness and love can be a far more powerful tool

Not that ghastly track by Whitney Houston or the awful Titanic one though - that would drive them insane.

lol that would be torture Rags, there is a difference, I mean, if I wanted to torture them I would play

Renée & Renato - Save Your Love 1983 - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7EnYrW0oQM

Laughing

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:23 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Didge wrote:

Similar method in Islam itself for apostacy, they try to reason by offering them to repent and if they do not they are executed.
Their punishment is just harsher.

Peronally I would make them watch video after video of love songs, people being good to each other etc
Kindness and love can be a far more powerful tool

Not that ghastly track by Whitney Houston or the awful Titanic one though - that would drive them insane.

Whale music?

Now I have some native American wolf music, that would do it lol

by Raggamuffin Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:24 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Not that ghastly track by Whitney Houston or the awful Titanic one though - that would drive them insane.

Whale music?

Now I have some native American wolf music, that would do it lol

I think something more uplifting would do it - like Dancing on a Saturday Night or something. Laughing

by Raggamuffin Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:24 pm

Ooooh, that's one for the Saturday thread.

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:25 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

Whale music?

Now I have some native American wolf music, that would do it lol

I think something more uplifting would do it - like Dancing on a Saturday Night or something.

Wolf music is very uplifting, gets you in touch with your inner spirit lol

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:31 pm

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:37 pm

Why do I have the feeling Victor has a dark secret and serenades the Ladies to Barry? And the moves of course... Laughing

by Victorismyhero Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:39 pm

pfffft...

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:41 pm

Nah, he just has a big beard he blindfolds them with and a big staff that he waggles about!

by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:43 pm

Didge wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Didge wrote:

Similar method in Islam itself for apostacy, they try to reason by offering them to repent and if they do not they are executed.
Their punishment is just harsher.

Peronally I would make them watch video after video of love songs, people being good to each other etc
Kindness and love can be a far more powerful tool

Committing people to a mental institution often helps them turn their lives around -- it's not a punishment.

But its a false premise

Are you then saying anyone who believes in islam is mentally unbalanced?

I mean do not get me wrong I think its off the charts why people believe, but is it being clincially of a mental health issue, even if they follow extreme views?
What next, someone of racist views to the extent of Nazism?
What you are saying is you want to commit people of differening views to you?

Is that not what used to happen a few centuries ago Ben?

Don't be ridiculous. You commit people when they pose a clear threat to themselves or others. Joining ISIS would be convincing evidence.

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:45 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Didge wrote:

But its a false premise

Are you then saying anyone who believes in islam is mentally unbalanced?

I mean do not get me wrong I think its off the charts why people believe, but is it being clincially of a mental health issue, even if they follow extreme views?
What next, someone of racist views to the extent of Nazism?
What you are saying is you want to commit people of differening views to you?

Is that not what used to happen a few centuries ago Ben?

Don't be ridiculous. You commit people when they pose a clear threat to themselves or others. Joining ISIS would be convincing evidence.

Agreed, I'd do it if it kept them safe and stopped them leaving to join. There is no trick I would not employ to stop that. And that would be entirely legitimate.

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:47 pm

Years ago people used to join sects and turn against their families because they were brainwashed. Families used to employ people to kidnap them and 'deprogramme' them. I think that would be a very good idea in a case where someone was joining ISIS.

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:47 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Didge wrote:

But its a false premise

Are you then saying anyone who believes in islam is mentally unbalanced?

I mean do not get me wrong I think its off the charts why people believe, but is it being clincially of a mental health issue, even if they follow extreme views?
What next, someone of racist views to the extent of Nazism?
What you are saying is you want to commit people of differening views to you?

Is that not what used to happen a few centuries ago Ben?

Don't be ridiculous. You commit people when they pose a clear threat to themselves or others. Joining ISIS would be convincing evidence.

Really, you are saying to commit someone because they believe in ISIS

People were committed in the past for having a belief

You have to prove its climically insane to then emulate Muhammad, which would be basically the vast majority of Muslims, as they certainly believe many of the hadiths of his life, where he had slaves, sex slaves to his commanders, executed people etc. People do believe this is what Muhammad did, are you saying they should be committed?
Well if you can prove religious belief is an insanity, I might back you, but you have not got a hope in helll of committing someone based on having a belief

by eddie Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:56 pm

Why am I humming "Save your love my darling....save your loooorrrrve! For summer nights with moon and stars abbbooorrrve!" whilst thinking about wolves...?

Joining Isis 1780941361

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:01 pm

Howling at the moon in both cases?

by eddie Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:03 pm

sassy wrote:Howling at the moon in both cases?

It was the two songs posted on here - they messed up my head lol

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:03 pm

It took songs? LOL

by eddie Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:06 pm

sassy wrote:It took songs? LOL

I think it's years in forums
Sent me doolally

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:07 pm

Aren't we all, but the ones you have to worry about are the ones that don't realise and think they know it all, and are convinced they are saving the world by jabbering on a forum lol

by eddie Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:10 pm

Doesn't that describe all of us?? Joining Isis 3489511464

by Guest Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:11 pm

Yes, but some of them think it's real Twisted Evil

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