Refugees to be given lessons in 'Western sexual norms' in Norway

Norway is offering non-European asylum seekers classes in Western sexual norms, in a bid to prevent violence against women. The question of integration has become more urgent throughout northern Europe after New Year’s Eve, where more than 100 women were reportedly sexually assaulted or robbed in Cologne, Germany. Federal authorities have identified 18 asylum seekers within the 31 suspects linked to the attacks. With more than a million asylum seekers arriving in Europe this year, a growing number of European politicians have leaned towards offering coaching in social mores. Many were previously reluctant to suggest that men from more conservative societies would misinterpret women’s behaviour, for fear of stigmatising migrants as potential rapists and playing into the hands of anti-immigrant politicians.
Norway, who first introduced the controversial classes, has now seen its model followed in countries across Europe.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-refugees-given-classes-on-sexual-norms-a6803666.html


Wow, talk about admitting there is a massive problem.

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Norway is offering non-European asylum seekers classes in Western sexual norms, in a bid to prevent violence against women. The question of integration has become more urgent throughout northern Europe after New Year’s Eve, where more than 100 women were reportedly sexually assaulted or robbed in Cologne, Germany. Federal authorities have identified 18 asylum seekers within the 31 suspects linked to the attacks. With more than a million asylum seekers arriving in Europe this year, a growing number of European politicians have leaned towards offering coaching in social mores. Many were previously reluctant to suggest that men from more conservative societies would misinterpret women’s behaviour, for fear of stigmatising migrants as potential rapists and playing into the hands of anti-immigrant politicians.
Norway, who first introduced the controversial classes, has now seen its model followed in countries across Europe.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-refugees-given-classes-on-sexual-norms-a6803666.html


Wow, talk about admitting there is a massive problem.

Such wonderful news! Now they'll have no rape in their country, because teaching men that it's wrong to rape keeps them from ever doing it.

This does suggest that the Governments of some countries consider this a cultural problem does it not? Similar sentiments have been expressed in Germany, after they invited the world and his dog in of course.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Norway is offering non-European asylum seekers classes in Western sexual norms, in a bid to prevent violence against women. The question of integration has become more urgent throughout northern Europe after New Year’s Eve, where more than 100 women were reportedly sexually assaulted or robbed in Cologne, Germany. Federal authorities have identified 18 asylum seekers within the 31 suspects linked to the attacks. With more than a million asylum seekers arriving in Europe this year, a growing number of European politicians have leaned towards offering coaching in social mores. Many were previously reluctant to suggest that men from more conservative societies would misinterpret women’s behaviour, for fear of stigmatising migrants as potential rapists and playing into the hands of anti-immigrant politicians.
Norway, who first introduced the controversial classes, has now seen its model followed in countries across Europe.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-refugees-given-classes-on-sexual-norms-a6803666.html


Wow, talk about admitting there is a massive problem.

Such wonderful news! Now they'll have no rape in their country, because teaching men that it's wrong to rape keeps them from ever doing it.

It astounds me you fail to see the bigger implications of this.
If as seen many countries believe there is a problem in how men are treating women from countries in the Middle East and North Africa. What does that say for the plight of women in these countries who clearly suffer untold abuse which goes unrecorded and brushed aside. Of course much of this is already known, Egypt being one such case where many women suffer, but hey, you continue to stick that head of yours firmly in the ground Ben, it seems to be your best attribute

we real solution is to deal with any offender equally to the full extent of the law

Yes lessons are necessary but the real cultural changer is making sure the law is fully applied. To see that in the west he will be punished. this then also goes on to cause cultural change  within the new migrant communities, as the women in those communities learn that the laws will protect them and they can stand up to the men in their community.

Why do they need teaching that sexual assault and rape is wrong...!?

Are they taught in their home countries that it is right and normal for THEIR womenfolk, mothers, sisters and daughters to be raped while out doing a bit of shopping etc...!?

The want teaching about breeding like rabbits.

Tommy Monk wrote:

Why do they need teaching that sexual assault and rape is wrong...!?

Are they taught in their home countries that it is right and normal for THEIR womenfolk, mothers, sisters and daughters to be raped while out doing a bit of shopping etc...!?

as it was in western nations in the 1800's
we are only 200 years into actually treating women like people. and equal people..... what is it, 50-60 years?

so yes, their home nations have not had progressive left wing political leaders drag the RW conservative community kicking and screaming towards equality like we have had in the west.

Are you saying that Muslims are taught that rape and sexual assault is right and it is normal and acceptable for their womenfolk, their wives, sisters, mothers and daughters to be raped at matter of normal society in their own countries...!?


And you then think it is OK to allow these people with this mindset into our countries given the obvious high risk and dangers they pose to the national populations...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:Are you saying that Muslims are taught that rape and sexual assault is right and it is normal and acceptable for their womenfolk, their wives, sisters, mothers and daughters to be raped at matter of normal society in their own countries...!?


And you then think it is OK to allow these people with this mindset into our countries given the obvious high risk and dangers they pose to the national populations...!?

no it is the default behaviors for humans. Our current respect for women is very rare in among humans societies currently and historically.

it has nothing to do with Islam as Christians where the same, Buddhist and Hindus as well, it is only Secularism and the ideals of Equality for everyone that suggest women are men's equals, none of the major religions do. 

and it is OK, we will teach them how to be civilized i mean if we can keep you in line we can do it for them to

And You need to stop using words phrases like 'High risk' you just make yourself and Europe seem like a bunch of Pussies.

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Are you saying that Muslims are taught that rape and sexual assault is right and it is normal and acceptable for their womenfolk, their wives, sisters, mothers and daughters to be raped at matter of normal society in their own countries...!?


And you then think it is OK to allow these people with this mindset into our countries given the obvious high risk and dangers they pose to the national populations...!?

no it is the default behaviors for humans. Our current respect for women is very rare in among humans societies currently and historically.

it has nothing to do with Islam as Christians where the same, Buddhist and Hindus as well, it is only Secularism and the ideals of Equality for everyone that suggest women are men's equals, none of the major religions do. 

and it is OK, we will teach them how to be civilized i mean if we can keep you in line we can do it for them to

And You need to stop using words phrases like 'High risk' you just make yourself and Europe seem like a bunch of Pussies.

You truly are one sick and twisted individual!

Tommy Monk wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Are you saying that Muslims are taught that rape and sexual assault is right and it is normal and acceptable for their womenfolk, their wives, sisters, mothers and daughters to be raped at matter of normal society in their own countries...!?


And you then think it is OK to allow these people with this mindset into our countries given the obvious high risk and dangers they pose to the national populations...!?

no it is the default behaviors for humans. Our current respect for women is very rare in among humans societies currently and historically.

it has nothing to do with Islam as Christians where the same, Buddhist and Hindus as well, it is only Secularism and the ideals of Equality for everyone that suggest women are men's equals, none of the major religions do. 

and it is OK, we will teach them how to be civilized i mean if we can keep you in line we can do it for them to

And You need to stop using words phrases like 'High risk' you just make yourself and Europe seem like a bunch of Pussies.

You truly are one sick and twisted individual!

you live is a fantasy, it is apparent you would stick to the social norms of the time, so in the 1800's you'd be beating your wife as was the social norms of the day in Anglo societies.

You want to make it a Islamic problem, it is is not it is Human nature that you would have been engaging in yourself not that many generations ago. the Bible says a man Should hit his wife regularly, so that is what people did in christian nations it is only when our nations Ceased to be Christan and became secular that there was even a movement to stop violence against women.


1950's it was comedy to beat your wife
http://timesupblog.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/honeymooners-was-no-honeymoon-when.html

A woman, a dog and a chestnut tree, the more you beat them the better they be!

I don't know who said that, but he is a total prat!

The world will never never never be at peace whilst the muzizles my blizzle fo shizzle exist.
EVERY ONE of them must be kicked off our island for the sake of us all and particularly our kidz.
No one has ever convinced me that allowing them to take over our island will benefit us.

All the lefties, pc aerosolz will eventually regret being gutless.

Stormee wrote:The world will never never never be at peace whilst the muzizles my blizzle fo shizzle exist.
EVERY ONE of them must be kicked off our island for the sake of us all and particularly our kidz.
No one has ever convinced me that allowing them to take over our island will benefit us.

All the lefties, pc aerosolz will eventually regret being gutless.

We've heard this message before.  Isn't the next stage genocide?  I keep hear the phrase the Jewish problem, echoing in my ears.

Can't remember the Jews cutting off heads,raping children, etc, can you?

nicko wrote:Can't remember the Jews cutting off heads,raping children,  etc,  can you?

I don't mind if you don't see the parallel. As long as you see the point...

Removing hostile invaders is a matter of necessity.

Quill, answer my question, yes or no.

nicko wrote:A woman, a dog and a chestnut tree,  the more you beat them the better they be!

I don't know who said that, but he is a total prat!

yeay. quite right Nicko...its MOST unkind to beat a dog....

Original Quill wrote:

nicko wrote:Can't remember the Jews cutting off heads,raping children,  etc,  can you?

I don't mind if you don't see the parallel.  As long as you see the point...  

well EDL proved your point Quill, they literally re-purposed an old Antisemitic poster

The Nazis hated jews and we're opposed by and defeated by Britain... while Muslims hate jews and supported hitler and still do hate jews and love hitler... Maybe that's why so many of them are so fond of and heading to Germany now...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQjTLGgQV2w


This link contains terrible graphic images... while being praised and supported by islamic teachers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qMs5ASIDv8

Tommy Monk wrote:The Nazis hated jews and we're opposed by and defeated by Britain... while Muslims hate jews and supported hitler and still do hate jews and love hitler... Maybe that's why so many of them are so fond of and heading to Germany now...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQjTLGgQV2w


This link contains terrible graphic images... while being praised and supported by islamic teachers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qMs5ASIDv8

the point goes over your head
the groups don't matter, it is the politicians directing and fostering the hatred that is the point.

So you are admitting that the politicians pursuit of importing millions of foreigners into the country against the overwhelming majority wishes of the electorate is the cause of the problems...!?


At last!

no the problem is they let demagogues wind up the imbeciles like yourself and get them all scared and excited over what is really very small issues that can be easily dealt with if the Rabble is kept quiet.

the Biggest problem is the terrified reaction of people like yourself to the idea there may be any sort of problem, the knee jerk cowardly reaction is over the top and causes more problems than it solves. Particularly when only a moron would be saying there would be absolutely no problems. Which in not what the Left says the left says there may be problems but we can deal with them... the Left just needs to keep the Rabble out of the way so it can do so, unfortunately hate preachers like Pat Condell do everything they can to make the world a worse place for everybody by inciting imbeciles to spout the idiocy that exist in their heads

You are admitting the imposition of something onto the nation against the democratic will of the people concerned...


You are also admitting that it is the cause of many problems that we would otherwise not be having!


You are also confirming the continued pursuit of this in the face of the evidence of the problems caused... and also confirming the agenda of establishment to actively deny and suppress the truth about problems caused while in pursuit of the anti democratic agenda...


Proof that lefties are anti democracy!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:
You are admitting the imposition of something onto the nation against the democratic will of the people concerned...


You are also admitting that it is the cause of many problems that we would otherwise not be having!


You are also confirming the continued pursuit of this in the face of the evidence of the problems caused... and also confirming the agenda of establishment to actively deny and suppress the truth about problems caused while in pursuit of the anti democratic agenda...


Proof that lefties are anti democracy!!!

I have told you Multiple times I do not believe in democracy as it let's you vote.


And Your point? Doing that is exactly what Britain has done since 1700's until 1970's
So You were going to have problems once you couldn't keep oppressing others to make up the economic shortfall between what British people actually produce in value and what they spend.
It is Hilarious that 'you have problems' and complaining about having things forced on you in a manner that is much kinder and softer than you forced things on others. 

nicko wrote:Quill, answer my question, yes or no.

Don't see any question.

veya_victaous wrote:no the problem is they let demagogues wind up the imbeciles like yourself and get them all scared and excited over what is really very small issues that can be easily dealt with if the Rabble is kept quiet.

the Biggest problem is the terrified reaction of people like yourself to the idea there may be any sort of problem, the knee jerk cowardly reaction is over the top and causes more problems than it solves. Particularly when only a moron would be saying there would be absolutely no problems. Which in not what the Left says the left says there may be problems but we can deal with them... the Left just needs to keep the Rabble out of the way so it can do so, unfortunately hate preachers like Pat Condell do everything they can to make the world a worse place for everybody by inciting imbeciles to spout the idiocy that exist in their heads

Its not a knee jerk reaction when there clearly is a problem, when countries are having such lessons.
The fact is there is a problem from certain cultures where women are treated as property and not equal and there is no denying this, where again countries like Eygpt show there is widespread abuse of women and ignoring this problem is fundementally wrong. No such lessons would even be needeed if not for a huge problem. The problem I find is when the left weakly and badly defend making assertions people are making knee jerk reactions, when this clearly is not a knee jerk reaction but a continued problem, thus bashing people for asserting there is a problem is counter productive.

Tommy Monk wrote:The Nazis hated jews and we're opposed by and defeated by Britain... while Muslims hate jews and supported hitler and still do hate jews and love hitler... Maybe that's why so many of them are so fond of and heading to Germany now...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQjTLGgQV2w


This link contains terrible graphic images... while being praised and supported by islamic teachers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qMs5ASIDv8

As much as part of the above is true, that there is a massive problem of antisemitism in Muslim communities around the world, the connection to Germany comes from the time of the Ottoman Empire, when Imperial Germany was allied to the Ottoman Empire, and why German has a large ethnic population of Turkish people.

Right catch you all later

Didge wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:no the problem is they let demagogues wind up the imbeciles like yourself and get them all scared and excited over what is really very small issues that can be easily dealt with if the Rabble is kept quiet.

the Biggest problem is the terrified reaction of people like yourself to the idea there may be any sort of problem, the knee jerk cowardly reaction is over the top and causes more problems than it solves. Particularly when only a moron would be saying there would be absolutely no problems. Which in not what the Left says the left says there may be problems but we can deal with them... the Left just needs to keep the Rabble out of the way so it can do so, unfortunately hate preachers like Pat Condell do everything they can to make the world a worse place for everybody by inciting imbeciles to spout the idiocy that exist in their heads

Its not a knee jerk reaction when there clearly is a problem, when countries are having such lessons.
The fact is there is a problem from certain cultures where women are treated as property and not equal and there is no denying this, where again countries like Eygpt show there is widespread abuse of women and ignoring this problem is fundementally wrong. No such lessons would even be needeed if not for a huge problem. The problem I find is when the left weakly and badly defend making assertions people are making knee jerk reactions, when this clearly is not a knee jerk reaction but a continued problem, thus bashing people for asserting there is a problem is counter productive.

Tommy Doesn't live in Egypt
you don't own the world
So all your points are nothing

the VERY SMALL number of Migrants that come to the UK can Easily be assimilated into a Superior Culture.
As I have Asserted Before Maybe the UK has to Look at Why It's Culture is Unable to do what other English Speaking western nations do, Cause it may be a shock to you but Maybe YOUR culture is not good enough.

veya_victaous wrote:

Didge wrote:


Its not a knee jerk reaction when there clearly is a problem, when countries are having such lessons.
The fact is there is a problem from certain cultures where women are treated as property and not equal and there is no denying this, where again countries like Eygpt show there is widespread abuse of women and ignoring this problem is fundementally wrong. No such lessons would even be needeed if not for a huge problem. The problem I find is when the left weakly and badly defend making assertions people are making knee jerk reactions, when this clearly is not a knee jerk reaction but a continued problem, thus bashing people for asserting there is a problem is counter productive.

Tommy Doesn't live in Egypt
you don't own the world
So all your points are nothing

the VERY SMALL number of Migrants that come to the UK can Easily be assimilated into a Superior Culture.
As I have Asserted Before Maybe the UK has to Look at Why It's Culture is Unable to do what other English Speaking western nations do, Cause it may be a shock to you but Maybe YOUR culture is not good enough.

This isn't about the UK - please stay on topic.

Very small number of immigrants???


Its only few all over again!!!

veya_victaous wrote:

Didge wrote:


Its not a knee jerk reaction when there clearly is a problem, when countries are having such lessons.
The fact is there is a problem from certain cultures where women are treated as property and not equal and there is no denying this, where again countries like Eygpt show there is widespread abuse of women and ignoring this problem is fundementally wrong. No such lessons would even be needeed if not for a huge problem. The problem I find is when the left weakly and badly defend making assertions people are making knee jerk reactions, when this clearly is not a knee jerk reaction but a continued problem, thus bashing people for asserting there is a problem is counter productive.

Tommy Doesn't live in Egypt
you don't own the world
So all your points are nothing

the VERY SMALL number of Migrants that come to the UK can Easily be assimilated into a Superior Culture.
As I have Asserted Before Maybe the UK has to Look at Why It's Culture is Unable to do what other English Speaking western nations do, Cause it may be a shock to you but Maybe YOUR culture is not good enough.

clearly te fact that it ISNT just the UK ....

germany, norway, finland, and many otrhers are seeing the same problems...

has it managed to penetrate you thiuck skull and simpleton intellect that many of these "migrants" DONT WANT to integrate...they do every thing they can to avoid it...

norway is trying to "educate" them...and it WILL fail

why?

becasue those that act in this way will see it as "unislamic"

People shouldn't need to be "educated" into not attacking women anyway. It's up to them to check out the laws of the country they're moving into.

Raggamuffin wrote:People shouldn't need to be "educated" into not attacking women anyway. It's up to them to check out the laws of the country they're moving into.

People shouldn't be attacking women full stop.
If they need educating then they're not people, they're animals.

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:People shouldn't need to be "educated" into not attacking women anyway. It's up to them to check out the laws of the country they're moving into.

People shouldn't be attacking women full stop.
If they need educating then they're not people, they're animals.

If it's "normal" where they come from though ...

They don't need educating, they need telling, and they need deporting straight away if they do it.

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:People shouldn't need to be "educated" into not attacking women anyway. It's up to them to check out the laws of the country they're moving into.

People shouldn't be attacking women full stop.
If they need educating then they're not people, they're animals.

If it's "normal" where they come from though ...

They don't need educating, they need telling, and they need deporting straight away if they do it.

Its worrying that countries would let in people that they know have a "norm" in their spsocieties, of attacking women!

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

If it's "normal" where they come from though ...

They don't need educating, they need telling, and they need deporting straight away if they do it.

Its worrying that countries would let in people that they know have a "norm" in their spsocieties, of attacking women!

Yes. I don't know if it's the norm or not, but the stories in the news about this "education" implies that Governments of certain countries think it is.

But they are educated in Islam Raggs and attacking non Muslim women is OK to them...

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

If it's "normal" where they come from though ...

They don't need educating, they need telling, and they need deporting straight away if they do it.

Its worrying that countries would let in people that they know have a "norm" in their spsocieties, of attacking women!

Yes. I don't know if it's the norm or not, but the stories in the news about this "education" implies that Governments of certain countries think it is.

If that's the case....
Well it's a pretty bad gamble to take with the people of your own country. Governments are essentially letting in large groups of people who are known to have "dangerous hobbies" that are the "norm" that could harm their own people.

What does that say to the people who,voted you in?

Tommy Monk wrote:But they are educated in Islam Raggs and attacking non Muslim women is OK to them...

I don't know about that. I think that if it's a mild case of wandering hand trouble, a swift slap around the face would do the trick, but then the woman would probably be arrested for assault instead.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/islam_rape_and_the_fate_of_western_women.html

Lord Foul wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Didge wrote:


Its not a knee jerk reaction when there clearly is a problem, when countries are having such lessons.
The fact is there is a problem from certain cultures where women are treated as property and not equal and there is no denying this, where again countries like Eygpt show there is widespread abuse of women and ignoring this problem is fundementally wrong. No such lessons would even be needeed if not for a huge problem. The problem I find is when the left weakly and badly defend making assertions people are making knee jerk reactions, when this clearly is not a knee jerk reaction but a continued problem, thus bashing people for asserting there is a problem is counter productive.

Tommy Doesn't live in Egypt
you don't own the world
So all your points are nothing

the VERY SMALL number of Migrants that come to the UK can Easily be assimilated into a Superior Culture.
As I have Asserted Before Maybe the UK has to Look at Why It's Culture is Unable to do what other English Speaking western nations do, Cause it may be a shock to you but Maybe YOUR culture is not good enough.

clearly te fact that it ISNT just the UK ....

germany, norway, finland, and many otrhers are seeing the same problems...

has it managed to penetrate you thiuck skull and simpleton intellect that many of these "migrants" DONT WANT to integrate...they do every thing they can to avoid it...

norway is trying to "educate" them...and it WILL fail

why?

becasue those that act in this way will see it as "unislamic"

I wonder why they don't want to integrate with a group of people who so openly hate them

Norway can succeed, at least it is trying, And Funny that it is impossible for Europeans (except Norway) yet the rest of the new world western nations have been able to.

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

If it's "normal" where they come from though ...

They don't need educating, they need telling, and they need deporting straight away if they do it.

Its worrying that countries would let in people that they know have a "norm" in their spsocieties, of attacking women!

Yes. I don't know if it's the norm or not, but the stories in the news about this "education" implies that Governments of certain countries think it is.

If that's the case....
Well it's a pretty bad gamble to take with the people of your own country. Governments are essentially letting in large groups of people who are known to have "dangerous hobbies" that are the "norm" that could harm their own people.

What does that say to the people who,voted you in?

despite the media sensationalism, there are many more likely threats to your person.

So Veya, you don't trust the media I take it?

Tommy Monk wrote:http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/islam_rape_and_the_fate_of_western_women.html

Nah American women in general are stronger like Aussie Women.

I cant see them having the same issues, Culturally they are more like Aussies in their 'strong' women that don't take shit from men.

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/islam_rape_and_the_fate_of_western_women.html

Nah American women in general are stronger like Aussie Women.

I cant see them having the same issues, Culturally they are more like Aussies in their 'strong' women that don't take shit from men.

Yes us Brits just get raped and moan about it.

eddie wrote:So Veya, you don't trust the media I take it?

I understand statistical Mathematics.
Plus I am a technical person at a level where some of the projects I have worked on make the media when they have problems.

I KNOW FOR 100% FACT THEY LIE or at least post such simplification and sensationalism of the information as to make it deceitful.