Fox Hunting

by Major Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:09 am

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Do you have a view of fox hunting with dogs?

I will comment later.

Fox-hunting is the greatest sport on God’s green earth
Boxing Day hunts are a highlight of the year for those who love the beauty of our countryside

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Stuart Radbourne, master of the Avon Vale Hunt, toasts after gathering in the village of Lacock in Wiltshire for the annual Boxing Day hunt. Photo: Steve Parsons/PA
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By James Delingpole6:43PM GMT 26 Dec 2015Comments885 Comments
I spent Boxing Day out hunting. I came home caked in mud, legs like jelly and half-cut on a mixture of sloe gin, cherry brandy and Whisky Mac. And as usual I offered up two silent prayers of gratitude – the first for my having survived another suicidal day in the saddle; the second for my good grace in having discovered – albeit rather late in life – the greatest sport on God’s green earth.
Everyone who hunts knows this. It’s why, 10 years after it was rendered supposedly illegal, the sport remains at least as popular as it ever was, whatever Tracey Crouch says. According to the latest research, some 80 per cent of hunts have either held on to their supporters or recruited new ones since the Hunting Act came into effect. As one of those new recruits, I can tell you why this is: because once you’ve tried it quite simply nothing else will do.
"Horses are herd animals and like nothing better than to hang out with a crowd of mates – especially if it involves galloping at reckless speeds..."
Hunting is so brilliant because it combines so many of the things that make life worth living: the matchless beauty of our countryside; the camaraderie of shared danger; the glamour of a mobile cocktail party; the spirit of a warehouse rave; the application of hard-won skills; the escapist joy of living purely in the moment; the thrill of the chase; dressing up in fabulous costumes; rampant sex and passionate affairs (well, apparently).
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Of all these, what I’ve come to enjoy most is the relationship you have with your horse. I don’t come from a riding background; I used to dislike horsey people. Once you’ve been out hunting, though, you get it totally. Your survival – it’s quite a dangerous sport – depends almost entirely on the wildly unpredictable, almost uncontrollably powerful beast between your legs. The bond between you during the four or five hours of a hunt is so intense it’s like becoming one united creature: no longer human and horse; more like a centaur.

And the weird thing is, your horse is even more up for it than you are. Horses are herd animals and like nothing better than to hang out with a crowd of mates – especially if it involves galloping at reckless speeds and flying over hedges. When horses in a field see a hunt go past or even hear a horn or the “music” of the hounds, they go almost insane with excitement.
The people who want to ban hunting – including celebrities such as Ricky Gervais – claim to be animal lovers. But in my experience, the people who love animals best – because they understand them so deeply – are the ones involved in hunting: the kennel man who cares for the pack of 40 hounds (never “dogs”); the huntsman who can think like both fox and hound and can marshal his pack like a battle fleet; the terrier men on their quad bikes; the riders and their cherished mounts.
Children: I haven’t yet mentioned them but I must for they are one of hunting’s greatest joys. Rosy-cheeked pony clubbers in ties and hacking jackets, vying, fence for fence with the adults. There’s no other activity on earth where children and adults can compete and bond on equal terms – same hardships, same risks, same buzz. Truly it’s a pleasure to watch.
"If, on occasion – whoops! – the hounds do chase a fox, things get rather exciting."
Then, of course, there’s the fox. It’s a complete misconception that hunting people hate foxes, let alone that they take pleasure when – only by accident, of course, these days – the fox gets despatched by the hounds.
Charlie (as he’s known) may be a pest and a villain but he’s also the hero. The fox that meets his maker after a 10-mile point (not that this happens these days; we can but dream) will live forever in the hunting hall of fame. (Which is more than can be said for the many thousands of foxes who die each year in the slower, more “natural” way of disease and starvation.)
If, on occasion – whoops! – the hounds do chase a fox, things get rather exciting. When you learn to ride there are all sorts of sensible rules about safety you follow: don’t jump when it’s too muddy or hard; don’t gallop round tight bends. But following fast-moving hounds gives you licence to ignore them all.
Afterwards, it feels a bit like it must do when you’ve survived a battle. Everyone’s amazed to be in one piece; you feel an extraordinary bond with those who have shared the experience. People who were strangers an hour before now feel like your oldest, most intimate friends.

Hunting has a reputation for exclusivity. But it’s really not the case: you can do it too, if you want. Admittedly the horse hire and the kit and the “cap” don’t come cheap but what I mean is it’s not necessary to be the world’s greatest rider (I’m not) or even to be able to jump (there are always gates). The only things you do need are an appetite for speed and a steady nerve (though the booze does help) and a love of life. Perhaps you’ve left it a bit late to be ready for the hunt on New Year’s Day. But Boxing Day 2016 – why not? You’re not getting any younger…
James would love to hear from any hunts or any hunting folk who would like to assist him with his book Mr Delingpole's Sporting Tour (James@jamesdelingpole.com)

by Raggamuffin Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:33 pm

Stormee wrote:I reckon plod has been told to look the other way and have a few pints in the local, yes it does happen

They have been very supportive of the ban in my experience. I haven't had a reason to report illegal hunting or hare coursing, but if I did, I would not put up with them turning a blind eye.

by Eilzel Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:53 am

I saw an interesting thouht on this the other day.

Imagine a gang of young thugs set a pack of dogs on a small, defenceless animal. How would you view those thugs?

Now make them posh and put them on horses....

by Guest Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:54 am

Bang on the money Les!

by Victorismyhero Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:54 pm

Eilzel wrote:I saw an interesting thouht on this the other day.

Imagine a gang of young thugs set a pack of dogs on a small, defenceless animal. How would you view those thugs?

Now make them posh and put them on horses....

I saw an interesting thouht on this the other day.

Imagine a gang of young thugs set upon and rob a low income disable person. How would you view those thugs?

Now make them posh and put them in govenment...

I suggest you have your priorities wong Eil and Sass

by Syl Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:06 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
Eilzel wrote:I saw an interesting thouht on this the other day.

Imagine a gang of young thugs set a pack of dogs on a small, defenceless animal. How would you view those thugs?

Now make them posh and put them on horses....

I saw an interesting thouht on this the other day.

Imagine a gang of young thugs set upon and rob a low income disable person. How would you view those thugs?

Now make them posh and put them in govenment...

I suggest you have your priorities wong Eil and Sass

They are both sickening.

by Victorismyhero Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:10 am

true Syl, but....

one results in the admittedly unkind death of perhaps a dozen, it has to be said, verminous and quite unpleasant furry life forms across the country

the other results in te unpleasant deaths of several tens to hundereds and the continuing and deepening misery of 10's of 1000's of human beings

yet the hordes of unwashed ony go howling and screaming after those who misuse a few irelevant furry life forms, hence my comments about priorities.....

where are the hordes of unwashed,beseiging the commons, throwing fire crackers at the mp's steeds?
where are the hordes of unwashed demanding and wishing death upon the foul hordes of westminster?

whats that you say...you cant see them...nope neither can I......

by Guest Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:14 am

Hope they get their arses locked up, but they won't, too much bloody influence.

by Victorismyhero Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:34 am

pity they dont seek out and get the necessary publicity, and couch it in the same emotive terms, for those disabled and in some cases dieing victims of govt policy....

but that would mean taking on something rather more ferocious than a few twits on horses...

whats worse...they cant even take the twits on horse on very well....
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and I thought these "sabs" were intelligent types...

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fook me I could utterly wreck a hunt in 30 seconds, without leaving my van, without trespassing, without anyone realising what I was doing,

there would be hounds and riderless horses scattered over 3 counties...

OH my...

what jolly fun

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by Guest Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:40 am

Sorry to disappoint, but those same kind of people are fighting for the disabled as well, whereas you said you were going to vote Tory, the very people who are causing the deaths of disabled people and making their lives a nightmare. I don't think you have room to talk Vic.

by Victorismyhero Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:02 am

sassy wrote:Sorry to disappoint, but those same kind of people are fighting for the disabled as well,

doing what exactly? I dont see any fireworks being thrown at MP's cars?
or mp's families being threatened (not that i would apporove of either but....)
where are the loud persistant demonstrations outside job centers the disruption of job center business, the targeting of jobcenter managers?

hmmmm????

whereas you said you were going to vote Tory, the very people who are causing the deaths of disabled people and making their lives a nightmare. I don't think you have room to talk Vic.

yes , and I'll do it again whilst labour continue to go down the road of interference rather than governance
down the road of giving disproportionate weight to the loudest minority to shout

that doesnt mean I agree with what the tories are doing vis the treatment of many folks...

nor does it stop me pointing out that as is normal these people have warped priorities....

I mean where IS your beloved leader?

he should be daily nailing cameron to the wall....
he should be daily formenting rebellion in the commons
the tories have a tennuous at best majority....

why isnt corbyn rounding up the opposition sufficient to go for a vote of no confidence...

he can call for and loose as many of those as he wants, with no fall out on him

cameron has only to loose 1

why isnt he out "tub thumping"

hes had what 4 months now? and what....?

the last election was a choice between shit and puke

I chose the least deep pile

I also voted for the MP who actually had the decency to reply to my email prior to the election asking about his stand on various issues of interest to me...

the ONLY one who bothered replying within a decent time scale was the tory MP

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(the lib dem candiate took 6 weeks to answer....the labour candidate never did)

by Major Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:00 am

by stardesk Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:21 pm

Hi folks. I am absolutely and totally against hunting in any way form or fashion. As you all probably know by now I don't believe in God, but I do believe in the sanctity of all life. Yes, I know, we breed animals and kill them for food, that's natural for everything preys on somethiing else for its survival. But hunting for pleasure is wrong.
Not so long ago the wife and I were out for a ride, liking bird watching, when we came across the Fakenham Hunt, who were starting off across a field towards some woods. We got out of the car to have a better look and a hunter's car sat nearby. A lady called us over and opened the boot and low and behold there sat an Eagle Owl, a large predatory bird. The lady blatantly said 'we get round the no dogs law by using this owl.' Sick or what?
On another occasion, again down a quiet country road, we stopped for something to eat. Across the road in a field were a small herd of deer, and coming up across an adjoining field were four men with shotguns, behind a large hedgerow. Guessing they were after the deer, I got out of the car, blew up one of the bags we'd had some lunch in, and banged it. It sounded loud and the deer shot off at a gallop. The hunters saw us and we shot off before we got a blast from their guns.

Or have I got it all wrong? Should I kick shit out of my neighbours cat that craps on my garden? Should I give my grandchildren guns so they can shoot at the birds on the bird table?

by Major Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:29 pm

Men stalk deer with rifles NOT scatterguns, I hope this has helped your lack of knowledge.

BTW, the deer would have been off before the 4 men even got in range with a shotgun.

I smell a rodent.

by Guest Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:38 pm

stardesk wrote:Hi folks. I am absolutely and totally against hunting in any way form or fashion. As you all probably know by now I don't believe in God, but I do believe in the sanctity of all life. Yes, I know, we breed animals and kill them for food, that's natural for everything preys on somethiing else for its survival. But hunting for pleasure is wrong.
Not so long ago the wife and I were out for a ride, liking bird watching, when we came across the Fakenham Hunt, who were starting off across a field towards some woods. We got out of the car to have a better look and a hunter's car sat nearby. A lady called us over and opened the boot and low and behold there sat an Eagle Owl, a large predatory bird. The lady blatantly said 'we get round the no dogs law by using this owl.' Sick or what?
On another occasion, again down a quiet country road, we stopped for something to eat. Across the road in a field were a small herd of deer, and coming up across an adjoining field were four men with shotguns, behind a large hedgerow. Guessing they were after the deer, I got out of the car, blew up one of the bags we'd had some lunch in, and banged it. It sounded loud and the deer shot off at a gallop. The hunters saw us and we shot off before we got a blast from their guns.

Or have I got it all wrong? Should I kick shit out of my neighbours cat that craps on my garden? Should I give my grandchildren guns so they can shoot at the birds on the bird table?

Hello My Gorgeous East Anglian Buddy I love you

xxx

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I'm against hunting for sport but I can understand people like Victor who hunt for food to eat. As a child my family used to hunt for rabbits, pheasants and catch fish.

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by stardesk Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:54 pm

Stormee, from where I was watching they might have had blunderbuses, I saw them with long barrelled guns, whatever they were.

Hi FTL my lovely lady, yes our xmas was ok, I hope you enjoyed it, not too much wine and pudding. A happy new year to you.

Being a country boy born and bred, I did own a gun once. Until one day I shot a pheasant and it landed by a hedge, when I found it it was still alive but looked to be in awful pain, mercifully I dispatched it but oh dear, as I looked down at it an overwhelming feeling of guilt and shame came over me and I thought, 'what right have I got, to go round the countryside killing for pleasure?' I went home and sold the gun and never, ever hunted again.

by Guest Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:58 pm

stardesk wrote:Hi folks. I am absolutely and totally against hunting in any way form or fashion. As you all probably know by now I don't believe in God, but I do believe in the sanctity of all life. Yes, I know, we breed animals and kill them for food, that's natural for everything preys on somethiing else for its survival. But hunting for pleasure is wrong.
Not so long ago the wife and I were out for a ride, liking bird watching, when we came across the Fakenham Hunt, who were starting off across a field towards some woods. We got out of the car to have a better look and a hunter's car sat nearby. A lady called us over and opened the boot and low and behold there sat an Eagle Owl, a large predatory bird. The lady blatantly said 'we get round the no dogs law by using this owl.' Sick or what?
On another occasion, again down a quiet country road, we stopped for something to eat. Across the road in a field were a small herd of deer, and coming up across an adjoining field were four men with shotguns, behind a large hedgerow. Guessing they were after the deer, I got out of the car, blew up one of the bags we'd had some lunch in, and banged it. It sounded loud and the deer shot off at a gallop. The hunters saw us and we shot off before we got a blast from their guns.

Or have I got it all wrong? Should I kick shit out of my neighbours cat that craps on my garden? Should I give my grandchildren guns so they can shoot at the birds on the bird table?

Seen that in Norfolk as well Stardesk, round the Dersingham/Sandringham area, I banged and shouted so that the deer scattered.

by stardesk Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:27 pm

Hi Sassy. There are quite a few Muntjac in Sandringham woods. When Ma-am and her family and guests are up here for the Xmas break, parties of them go out shooting, many are wealthy people who, so I'm told by one of the beaters, pay a hell of a lot of money to take part in the hunts.

How's this for greed? Not far from us is a small marsh which is frequented by uk and migrant geese, and other species of birds. The marsh, like most of them around the local coastal area, is owned by the Crown Estate, who lease it to the local wildfowling association, who obviously, shoot geese. Not only that but they also lease it to Natural England who are concerned with the preservation of nature. How's that for greed? I wrote to both parties and the Crown Estate asking if shooting could be stopped on just that one small marsh. But no, no one would listen and take up the matter. The marsh is frequented by local people out for a walk or dog walking, ramblers, by tourists, and of course bird watchers, also there are some cottages near the marsh where there are a couple of young lads who play in the area, also a lady has a couple of horses she rides around the marsh.
Natural England have even installed a board walk stretching quite a distance onto the marsh, right in front of the shooters and not many yards away from them. Can you imagine our thoughts and feelings when bird and nature watchers are there, watching flocks of geese, and seeing them being shot at?

by nicko Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:44 pm

Being that GEESE only flight early morning and at last light the dog walkers and kids playing keep some unsociable hours.I'M speaking as some one who has spent hours on marshes waiting for a shot at Geese.

by Major Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:46 pm

stardesk wrote:Stormee, from where I was watching they might have had blunderbuses, I saw them with long barrelled guns, whatever they were.

Hi FTL my lovely lady, yes our xmas was ok, I hope you enjoyed it, not too much wine and pudding. A happy new year to you.

Being a country boy born and bred, I did own a gun once. Until one day I shot a pheasant and it landed by a hedge, when I found it it was still alive but looked to be in awful pain, mercifully I dispatched it but oh dear, as I looked down at it an overwhelming feeling of guilt and shame came over me and I thought, 'what right have I got, to go round the countryside killing for pleasure?' I went home and sold the gun and never, ever hunted again.

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by Major Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:48 pm

nicko wrote:Being that GEESE only flight early morning and at last light the dog walkers and kids playing keep some unsociable hours.I'M speaking as some one who has spent hours on marshes waiting for a shot at Geese.

Did you ever shoot a Blackback and sit on it? nicko.

by nicko Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:28 am

Never heard of a blackback, and only sat on a piece of canvas.

by nicko Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:30 am

Never heard of a blackback, and only sat on a piece of canvas.

by stardesk Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:16 pm

nicko wrote:Being that GEESE only flight early morning and at last light the dog walkers and kids playing keep some unsociable hours.I'M speaking as some one who has spent hours on marshes waiting for a shot at Geese.

Nicko, sorry to contradict you but you are totally wrong. We take note of where there are sugar beet fields and after they've been harvested we see large flocks of geese coming in to feed on bits of beet etc. During the day! You obviously haven't been in the right places at the right time.

Stormee, you didn't read what I said: The shooters were behind a thick, high hedge, the deer were a couple of hundred yards away on a field.

by Guest Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:21 pm

stardesk wrote:Hi Sassy. There are quite a few Muntjac in Sandringham woods. When Ma-am and her family and guests are up here for the Xmas break, parties of them go out shooting, many are wealthy people who, so I'm told by one of the beaters, pay a hell of a lot of money to take part in the hunts.

How's this for greed? Not far from us is a small marsh which is frequented by uk and migrant geese, and other species of birds. The marsh, like most of them around the local coastal area, is owned by the Crown Estate, who lease it to the local wildfowling association, who obviously, shoot geese. Not only that but they also lease it to Natural England who are concerned with the preservation of nature. How's that for greed? I wrote to both parties and the Crown Estate asking if shooting could be stopped on just that one small marsh. But no, no one would listen and take up the matter. The marsh is frequented by local people out for a walk or dog walking, ramblers, by tourists, and of course bird watchers, also there are some cottages near the marsh where there are a couple of young lads who play in the area, also a lady has a couple of horses she rides around the marsh.
Natural England have even installed a board walk stretching quite a distance onto the marsh, right in front of the shooters and not many yards away from them. Can you imagine our thoughts and feelings when bird and nature watchers are there, watching flocks of geese, and seeing them being shot at?

The Muntjac actually come into my Dad's front garden sometimes. How they can shoot them I have no idea, beautiful and not much bigger than a large dog.

by stardesk Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:24 pm

Hi Sassy. They're a pretty little deer and if I can master the pic' upload I'll enter a pic' of a Muntjac that wandered towards us.

by Major Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:28 pm

nicko wrote:Never heard of a blackback, and only sat on a piece of canvas.

Here is one, nicko

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by Guest Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:36 pm

stardesk wrote:Hi Sassy. They're a pretty little deer and if I can master the pic' upload I'll enter a pic' of a Muntjac that wandered towards us.

That would be lovely, they are so sweet.

by Guest Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:37 pm

Stormee wrote:
nicko wrote:Never heard of a blackback, and only sat on a piece of canvas.

Here is one, nicko

Shoot a seagull and sit on it? What the hell are you!

by Major Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:49 pm

sassy wrote:
Stormee wrote:

Here is one, nicko

Shoot a seagull and sit on it? What the hell are you!

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lighten up

Did I say I sat on one, did I did I did I did I?

You so are full of venom towards me it clouds your syte, judjmunt, Sassy.

Read that which I scribe, not that which YOU assume I mene, you know it makes sense..

by nicko Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:29 pm

Blackback gull, I forgot about them. you'll be telling me next Herring Gulls eat Herrings!

by Major Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:35 pm

nicko wrote:Blackback gull, I forgot about them. you'll be telling me next Herring Gulls eat Herrings!

I have never measured the wingspan of a Blackback but it must be big.

by stardesk Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:34 pm

Further to what I said above about geese in the daytime: When the tide comes in the geese come inland, whatever time of day. When the tide is out they feed on the uncovered marshes and mudflats.

As for the gull, there are two species, the Great Black-Backed Gull and the slightly smaller Lesser Black-Backed.

by Guest Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:39 pm

They certainly do Stardesk, found this pic of them feeding at Cley:

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by stardesk Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:46 pm

Sassy, when we go that way we pop in the cafe where you can sit by the large windows and look out over the marsh towards the seabank. There are a few Marsh Harriers in the area.

by Major Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:50 pm

Geese mega crap, they make an awful mess big time
I do not eat goose very often.

I shoot duck but usually give them away but eat it crispy at the Chinky.

My mate shoots over 12,000, yes twelve thousand wood pigeon every year.
He takes them home in sacks, tips them feathered into old chest freezers, the game dealer comes to collect them, they have to dig some out frozen solid with a spade, game dealer hands over cash. Job done.

by Guest Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:52 pm

stardesk wrote:Sassy, when we go that way we pop in the cafe where you can sit by the large windows and look out over the marsh towards the seabank. There are a few Marsh Harriers in the area.

Years ago had a holiday with the children at Cley, we hired the Warden's cottage looking out over the marshes, was lovely.

by stardesk Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:52 pm

by Guest Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:53 pm

stardesk wrote:

They are so lovely, about the same size as my labrador!

by Major Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:02 pm

A full grown labrador weighs approximately twice as much as a average munti.

A full grown lab is approx 24 inches high

A full grown munti is about 18 inches.

So really, your comparison is inaccurate.

Glad to have educated you again.

by stardesk Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:08 pm

I should have said here's a Muntjac. Cute isn't it.

Going now but if anyone wants to see more pics just say and I'll oblige.
Night night.

by Guest Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:11 pm

Night Stardesk.

by Victorismyhero Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:48 pm

however muntjac taste better than labrador...so I'm told

(how would ANYONE actually know this affraid

)

by Major Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:54 pm

Lord Foul wrote:however muntjac taste better than labrador...so I'm told

(how would ANYONE actually know this )

There are loads of munti around here within a 50 miles radius which I know about, I would assume they are widespread on our island but not sure.

I have eaten munti and did not find any difference to other deer in this area, mind you, you do not get much meat off them.

Rabbit rocks.

by Victorismyhero Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:02 pm

pigeon aint half bad either

or a nice fresh duck

my mate reckons squirrel is good eating to...but i dont eat rat, so I dont see why I should eat tree rat

I shoot em though vile creatures...

by Major Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:12 pm

Lord Foul wrote:pigeon aint half bad either

or a nice fresh duck

my mate reckons squirrel is good eating to...but i dont eat rat, so I dont see why I should eat tree rat

I shoot em though vile creatures...

I eat duck from the Chinky, well, they say it is duck, tastes good.

by nicko Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:25 am

Star, you are quite right about the Geese, they come inland to feed when the tide pushes them off the marshes,Peter Scott has a book with some lovely paintings of Geese and Duck called "Morning Flight"

by stardesk Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:03 pm

Here's one of Sand Martins, taken at Weybourne cliffs.

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by stardesk Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:16 pm

Hi Nicko. Yes Peter Scott was a champion. The town of Sutton Bridge is where out towards the marshes is a light house called the Peter Scott light. We get various bird species on these marshes.

I think we aught to have a topic for wildlife pictures. What do you think, even your cat, dog, or budgie. Come on folks, show that you respect all life and don't kill it just for fun. If you can afford cartridges and/or bullets you can afford to buy your food, not kill it yourself.

by Major Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:19 pm

by Victorismyhero Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:37 pm

stardesk wrote:Hi Nicko. Yes Peter Scott was a champion. The town of Sutton Bridge is where out towards the marshes is a light house called the Peter Scott light. We get various bird species on these marshes.

I think we aught to have a topic for wildlife pictures. What do you think, even your cat, dog, or budgie. Come on folks, show that you respect all life and don't kill it just for fun. If you can afford cartridges and/or bullets you can afford to buy your food, not kill it yourself.

ethical cowardice

killing by proxy

do you REALLY think the way animals are slaughtered for food is more ethical than stalked/hunted?

have you ever SEEN how the animals are treated from farm to plate?

a rabbit shot by me with rifle is dead...as in DEAD....shot through the head with a .22 or a .17HMR

it has no brain left....

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