PMW findings used to confront PA officials

A delegation of Australian and British politicians visiting Israel and the Palestinian Authority used Palestinian Media Watch's findings to challenge and question PA officials. After confronting the PA officials, Australian MP Glenn Sterle "strongly recommended a briefing from Palestinian Media Watch before any meetings with the PA," The Jerusalem Post reported.
 
The Australian and British delegation had heard a presentation by PMW director Itamar Marcus, which, among other things, documented the PA's practice of glorifying terrorists who have killed Israeli civilians. After the PMW presentation, the delegation met with PA Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah and PA Minister of Education Sabri Saidam. The British and Australian delegates confronted and questioned the PA officials about the PA practice of naming schools and sporting events after terrorists and their educating Palestinian children and youth to hate Israelis and Jews.
 
PA Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah denied that any schools in the West Bank are named after terrorists, despite the fact that [url=http://www.palwatch.org/STORAGE/special reports/PA Education Report for Teachers Union 210715.pdf#page=11]PMW has clearly documented[/url] this. Hamdallah even "defend[ed] the practice of 'honoring' terrorist-suicide bombers," Australian MP Glenn Sterle said. Hamdallah had further told the delegation to "check their information." [The Jerusalem Post, Dec. 15, 2015]
 
After the meeting with the Australian-British delegation, the PA Minister of Education Dr. Sabri Saidam said that he "was surprised by the group's 'explosive, blunt and rude' questions about Palestine's education system." "There was a lot of incitement I would say on behalf of the delegation meaning or implying that the Palestinians are the ones terrorizing Israel," Saidam said. He complained that Australian Federal Industry Minister Christopher Pyne had not discussed education with him but instead about "political difficulties." Minister Saidam stated that Minister Pyne "had a list of questions and they were misinformed." [SBS News, Dec. 16, 2015]
 
Recently, Swedish MP Ekeroth also used PMW documentation to show Swedish Parliament that the PA does not seek peace. 


PMW has reported on the PA and Fatah's ongoing terror glorification and promotion of violence during the current wave of terror attacks against Israelis. 
 
The following are the reports on the delegation's use of PMW documentation at the meeting with PA officials in the Jerusalem Post and SBS:
 
Headline: "Grapevine: Between Jerusalem and Berlin"
By Greer Fay Cashman
"PRIOR TO the dinner on Sunday, following a presentation by Itamar Marcus from Palestinian Media Watch, Dialogue participants went to Ramallah to meet with Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah and the PA education minister, who were asked about the naming of a girls high school after a terrorist, Dalal Mughrabi; sporting events named after terrorists; branding anyone who supported peace initiatives through sport as traitors; and the preaching of hatred through the education system. According to the Australian Labor Party's Glenn Sterle, who is the senator for Western Australia in the Parliament of Australia, Australian and UK delegates were at all times respectful and courteous to the prime minister when putting their questions. The prime minister gave a brief overview of the situation between Israel and the PA. He shared the concerns the PA has with Hamas and the reconstruction effort of the PA in Gaza. He told the group that the Palestinians are willing to commence peace talks toward a two-state solution with Israel, but not until there is a freeze on the expansion of settlements. The term "occupation" was used numerous times, said Sterle.
When questions from the delegation were put to the prime minister, the responses were varied, Sterle added. "Firstly, there was complete denial that any schools in the West Bank were named after terrorists. He challenged us to check our information. He reiterated a number of times that our information was incorrect. But when he was returned to the question by other members of the delegation, he then went into defending the practice of 'honoring' terrorist-suicide bombers." Sterle noted that Hamdallah was at pains to share with the group the actions of Israeli soldiers who have killed numerous Palestinian youths who have done nothing more than throwing stones at the soldiers. He used the expression "they are not here having a picnic" several times when talking about the soldiers' presence. His reasoning, said Sterle, was that Israel honors its "terrorists" by naming streets, buildings and airports after them. Names such as Ben-Gurion, Sharon and Meir - people who, he said, killed Palestinians - were cited. He also mentioned Baruch Goldstein, who killed 29 Muslim worshipers at prayer in Hebron. At one stage, said Sterle, Hamdallah got a little agitated as the group continued to bring him back to the topic of honoring terrorists through sporting events and the education system. The same theme of questioning was put to the education minister, and the same answers came back to the group. Trimble opened the session with the process of inclusion between children from both sides of the Northern Ireland conflict. The minister appeared not to be interested in further conversation in this area, though he did say the assistance of the international community was needed to commence peace talks. Sterle, for whom this was not the first Dialogue gathering, said that it is imperative to have the visit to Ramallah included in all Dialogue visits. "It is definitely worthwhile for delegates to meet and hear from the PA ," he said, and strongly recommended a briefing from Palestinian Media Watch before any meetings with the PA."
 
Headline: Pyne defends Palestinian talks approach


 
Sub-headline: "Federal Industry Minister Christopher Pyne has defended the approach a delegation took to discussions with Palestinian authorities in the West Bank"
Source: AAP
"The Federal Industry Minister Christopher Pyne has defended his approach in high-level discussions in the West Bank at the weekend.  Mr Pyne was part of a delegation of British and Australian politicians visiting Israel, before heading for talks with Palestinian authorities in Ramallah. The Palestinian Education Minister Dr Sabri Saidam told SBS News he had expected the discussions to focus on education, but was surprised by the group's "explosive, blunt and rude" questions about Palestine's education system.
He said both Australian and British MPs asked the offensive questions. "There was a lot of incitement I would say on behalf of the delegation meaning or implying that the Palestinians are the ones terrorising Israel when we have been subjected to the longest occupation, as I said, of modern times," he said. Dr Saidam said Mr Pyne sidetracked from his Innovation portfolio to concentrate on political discussions. "I had hoped that the Minister of Innovation would spend some time talking about Innovation, Industry and Science and I said you are now welcome,  the Ministry of Service that runs schools and manages higher education entities, that we should be talking education. Instead, we were diverted to talk about political difficulties and talking about challenges and he had a list of questions and they were misinformed."
In response, Mr Pyne's office sent the following statement:
"Members of the delegation are responsible for their own comments and behaviour.
"The Minister personally engaged in constructive discussions centred around understanding Palestinian attitudes to the peace project."
Dr Saidam said he gave the group a textbook on education in Palestine and encouraged members to pose their same questions to the Israeli Government."

This was Itamar Marcus of the PMW who lives in an illegal settlement in the West Bank who was thrown out of court by a judge for cherry-picking articles and misrepresenting what is published in Palestinian news outlets. Put himself up as a reliable expert and was found out to be anything but.

The PA were quite right to remind the delegation that Israel also names buildings and streets etc. In honour of Israeli terrorists. The US government funded academic study carried out into the education of children in Palestine and Israel also showed that what was shown in Palestinian text books was no better or worse than what was shown in Israeli text books. They should just have read that.

Why the British delegation needed to be briefed by the PMW is nonsense but in any event it’s just more propaganda along the same lines as the high level military experts who declared that the IDF are morally the best in the world – all of course based on their rules of engagement

Again nothing on the actual points raise only the author.
So you have an opinion
So show me how of late and where that Israel has named places after Israeli terrorists?

Even the judge you constantly used to claim he is bot reliable backed that he had showed evidence of inciteme

Now if you want there is countless evidence of this

What the question should be is why are you even attempting to deny it?

Our Impact

Making a Difference PMW reports lead to second arrest of Antisemitic preacher from the Al-Aqsa ‎Mosque Israeli TV 1 reporter: “Last night, he [Khaled Al-Mughrabi was arrested in his home in the Old City [of ‎Jerusalem] as a result of sermons he has given at the Temple Mount that incite against ‎Israel and the Jews... This wild incitement was already exposed several months ago ‎by the research institute Palestinian Media Watch." Nov. 4, 2015 PMW report on PA education presented to Israeli Parliament PMW's director Itamar Marcus appeared before the Education Committee of the Knesset (Israeli parliament) to present PMW's report on Palestinian Authority Education. Oct. 28, 2015 US Congress freezes $80 million in aid to PA following hearing in which former senior White House official used PMW documentation "The background to the current wave of violence is the pattern of glorification of terrorists. Here is ‎perhaps the best, meaning the worst, example, from Palestinian Media Watch: Dalal Mughrabi led the most deadly terror attack in Israel's history. 37 civilians, 12 of them ‎children, were killed in her 1978 bus hijacking. The Palestinian Authority has turned this ‎terrorist into a celebrated hero and role model, as schools, summer camps, and sports ‎tournaments are all named after her." Oct. 22, 2015 Israeli Dep. Foreign Minister Hotovely ‎uses PMW to show PA responsible for October 2015 terror wave The latest surge of Palestinian terror attacks against Israelis has come in the immediate ‎wake of explicit calls by the Palestinian leadership to 'spill blood.' [As documented by PMW,] this well-orchestrated campaign of violence follows many years in which Palestinian ‎children have been taught to idolize the murder of Jews as a sacred value and to ‎regard their own death in this “jihad” as the pinnacle of their aspirations.‎" Oct. 18, 2015 Ban Ki-Moon criticizes Abbas for incitement following PMW exposure "United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon told PA President Mahmoud Abbas that he worried Abbas’s recent incitement would lead to more confrontations in Jerusalem... 'The Al-Aqsa [Mosque] is ours… and they have no right to defile it with their filthy feet. We will not allow them to, and we will do everything in our power to protect Jerusalem,' Abbas said in a speech translated by Palestinian Media Watch (PMW)." Sept. 24, 2015

PMW in the Media The Independent - Dec. 6, 2015 "Itamar Marcus, director of Palestinian Media Watch (PMW), an Israeli NGO whose monitoring is often used by the right-wing government to discredit the Palestinian Authority, said of Dream Radio: 'In the last two months they switched focus very much to incitement against Israel and to a different format with a lot of songs calling for attacks.'" USA Today - Dec. 9, 2015 "The Palestinian Authority 'puts great effort into teaching children to hate Israel and promote violence,' said Itamar Marcus, director of Palestinian Media Watch, an Israeli group that monitors Palestinian education and messaging." The Washington Times - Dec. 2, 2015 "According to Palestinian Media Watch, an Israeli research institute studying Palestinian society, Palestinian textbooks, for example, 'make no attempt to educate for peace or coexistence with Israel. Instead Israel’s right to exist is adamantly denied and the Palestinian war against Israel is presented as an eternal religious battle for Islam.'” The Jerusalem Post - Nov. 4, 2015 "Joep de Geus read to him [Abbas] a quote ‎‎[exposed by PMW] from Fatah Central Committee member Jamal Muhaisen who, on October ‎‎7, said the murder of a settler couple the previous week in front of their children was a case ‎of 'one fulfilling his national duty voluntarily, as best as one can.' ...'We the Palestinians are not perfect,' Abbas replied‎." The Jerusalem Post - Oct. 29, 2015 "Palestinian Media Watch director Itamar Marcus presented his organization’s report on Palestinian Authority education [to the Knesset's Education Committee], which assessed the prominent educational messages that could impact peace with Israel."

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Again nothing on the actual points raise only the author.
So you have an opinion
So show me how of late and where that Israel has named places after Israeli terrorists?

Even the judge you constantly used to claim he is bot reliable backed that he had showed evidence of inciteme

Now if you want there is countless evidence of this

What the question should be is why are you even attempting to deny it?

I answered your points so cut the crap and read on....

1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies, not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001

2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.

7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969

8. "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.

9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

10. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

11. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

12. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)

13. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

14. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

15. " ... we should prepare to go over to the offensive with the aim of smashing Lebanon, Trans-jordan and Syria... The weak point in the Arab coalition is Lebanon [for] the Moslem regime is artificial and easy to undermine. A Christian state should be established... When we smash the [Arab] Legions strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan, too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria, and Cairo." " David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

16. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

17. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

18. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

19. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.

20. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. [I] tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.

21. "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

22. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

23. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

24. "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

25. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).

26. "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).

27. "We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not...You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world." (Chaim Weizmann, Published in "Judische Rundschau," No. 4, 1920)

28. "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset [Israeli Parliament] quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982

29. "Tell me, do the evil men of this world have a bad time? They hunt and catch whatever they feel like eating. They don't suffer from indigestion and are not punished by Heaven. I want Israel to join that club. Maybe the world will then at last begin to fear us instead of feeling sorry. Maybe they will start to tremble, to fear our madness instead of admiring our nobility. Let them tremble; let them call us a mad state. Let them understand that we are a savage country, dangerous to our surroundings, not normal, that we might go wild, that we might start World War Three just like that, or that we might one day go crazy and burn all the oil fields in the Middle East. Even if you'll prove to me that the present war is a dirty immoral war, I don't care. We shall start another war, kill and destroy more and more. And do you know why it is all worth it? Because it seems that this war has made us more unpopular among the civilized world.We'll hear no more of that nonsense about the unique Jewish morality. No more talk about a unique people being a light upon the nations. No more uniqueness and no more sweetness and light. Good riddance." --Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon

30. "The Modern Age is the Jewish Age, and the twentieth century, in particular, is the Jewish Century." -Yuri Slezkine, Professor of History at University of California, Berkeley, "The Jewish Century"; Princeton University Press

31. "What shocks and worries me is the narrow-mindedness and the shortsightedness of our military leaders. They seem to presume that the State of Israel may or even must-behave in the realm of international relations according to the laws of the jungle- -the long chain of false incidents and hostilities we have invented, and so many clashes we have provoked;" - From Diary of Moshe Sharett, former Primer Minister of Israel in Livia Rokach, Israel's Sacred Terrorism published 980

32. Hebrew essayist Achad Ha-Am, after paying a visit to Palestine in 1891: "Abroad we are accustomed to believe that Israel is almost empty; nothing is grown here and that whoever wishes to buy land could come here and buy what his heart desires. In reality, the situation is not like this. Throughout the country it is difficult to find cultivable land which is not already cultivated."

33. The Balfour Declaration to Baron Rothchild, on the 2nd of November, 1917: "His Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

34. Lord Sydenham, Hansard, House of Lords, 21 June 1922: "If we are going to admit claims on conquest thousands of years ago, the whole world will have to be turned upside down."

35. Vladimir Jabotinsky, The Iron Wall, 1923: "Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population - an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is our policy towards the Arabs..."

36. Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923: "A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!... Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing."

37. David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985: "We must expel Arabs and take their places."

38. Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department in 1940. From "A Solution to the Refugee Problem": "Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them. Not one village, not one tribe should be left."

39. Israeli official Arthur Lourie in a letter to Walter Eytan, director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry (ISA FM 2564/22). From Benny Morris, "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem 1947-49", p. 297: "...if people become accustomed to the large figure and we are actually obliged to accept the return of the refugees, we may find it difficult, when faced with hordes of claimants, to convince the world that not all of these formerly lived in Israeli territory. It would, in any event, seem desirable to minimize the numbers...than otherwise."

40. David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben- Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978: "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai."

41. David Ben-Gurion, one of the father founders of Israel, described Zionist aims in 1948: "A Christian state should be established [in Lebanon], with its southern border on the Litani river. We will make an alliance with it. When we smash the Arab Legion's strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo... And in this fashion, we will end the war and settle our forefathers' account with Egypt, Assyria, and Aram"

42. [Begin, and Yitzhak Shamir who were members of the party became Prime Ministers.] Albert Einstein, Hanna Arendt and other prominent Jewish Americans, writing in The New York Times, protest the visit to America of Menachem Begin, December 1948: "Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our time is the emergence in the newly created State of Israel of the Freedom Party (Herut), a political party closely akin in its organization, method, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties."

43. Martin Buber, Jewish Philosopher, addressed Prime Minister Ben Gurion on the moral character of the state of Israel with reference to the Arab refugees in March 1949. "We will have to face the reality that Israel is neither innocent, nor redemptive. And that in its creation, and expansion; we as Jews, have caused what we historically have suffered; a refugee population in Diaspora."

44. Moshe Dayan (Israel Defense and Foreign Minister), on February 12 1952. Radio "Israel.": "It lies upon the people's shoulders to prepare for the war, but it lies upon the Israeli army to carry out the fight with the ultimate object of erecting the Israeli Empire."

45. Martin Buber, to a New York audience, Jewish Newsletter, June 2, 1958: "When we [followers of the prophetic Judaism] returned to Palestine...the majority of Jewish people preferred to learn from Hitler rather than from us."

46. Aba Eban (the Israeli Foreign Minister) stated arrogantly. New York Times June 19, 1967: "If the General Assembly were to vote by 121 votes to 1 in favor of "Israel" returning to the armistice lines-- (pre June 1967 borders) "Israel" would refuse to comply with the decision."

47. Dr. Israel Shahak, Chairperson of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights, and a survivor of the Bergen Belsen concentration camp, Commenting on the Israeli military's Emergency Regulations following the 1967 War. Palestine, vol. 12, December 1983: "Hitler's legal power was based upon the 'Enabling Act', which was passed quite legally by the Reichstag and which allowed the Fuehrer and his representatives, in plain language, to be what they wanted, or in legal language, to issue regulations having the force of law. Exactly the same type of act was passed by the Knesset [Israeli's Parliament] immediately after the 1067 conquest granting the Israeli governor and his representatives the power of Hitler, which they use in Hitlerian manner."

48. Joseph Weitz, Director of the Jewish National Fund, the Zionist agency charged with acquiring Palestinian land, Circa 194. Machover Israca, January 5, 1973 /p.2: "The only solution is Eretz Israel [Greater Israel], or at least Western Eretz Israel [all the land west of Jordan River], without Arabs. There is no room for compromise on this point ... We must not leave a single village, not a single tribe."

49. Israeli Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, Inferring that killing isn't murder if the victim is Gentile. Jerusalem Post, June 19,1989: "Jewish blood and a goy's [gentile's] blood are not the same."

50. Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, tells students at Bar Ilan University, From the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989: "Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."

51. Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service: "The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the Jordan River for future generations, for the mass aliya [immigration], and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country."

52. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000: "If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force...."

53. Ben Gurion: In 1899, Davis Triestsch wrote to Herzl: " I would suggest to you to come round in time to the "Greater Palestine" program before it is too late... the Basle program must contain the words "Great Palestine" or "Palestine and its neighboring lands" otherwise it's nonsense. You do not get ten million Jews into a land of 25,000 Km2". " The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill -- From the Nile to the Euphrates."

54. Vladimir Jabotinsky (the founder and advocate of the Zionist terrorist organizations), Quoted by Maxime Rodinson in Peuple Juif ou Problem Juif. (Jewish People or Jewish Problem): "Has any People ever been seen to give up their territory of their own free will? In the same way, the Arabs of Palestine will not renounce their sovereignty without violence."

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https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/video-shocking-words-israeli-leaders-read-aloud-irish-parliament

And there was the commemoration of the massacre in blowing up of the King David Hotel when the Israeli government unveiled a plaque in remembrance of that atrocity which murdered 31 British people 91 people in total. The British Ambassador in Tel Aviv and the Consul-General in Jerusalem protested, saying that he did not think it right for an act of terrorism to be commemorated, and demanded the removal of the plaque. They pretty much told him to shove off and it’s still there.

Menachen Begin planned and led that attack ad he is the most revered of all the leaders of Israel. They even have a Heritage Centre named in his honour. There are streets and many other establishments named after these terrorists and former leaders who have come out with many of these statements and Tel Aviv airport is an example of that.

The US funded academic study found that there is little difference between Israeli and Palestinian text books in the way they describe each other  and the British delegation should have read that because it’s a lot more independent than what the PMW spun them.   I wonder why the British delegation didn’t bother with it? Any ideas why?

And of course it doesn't stop there:














Now, who else was it talked about 'The Master Race'?

Good man Rabbi Weiss:

Again has Irn been able to refute the indisputable evidence that hate and incitemnet by the Palestinians athuroities is not endemic?

Fundemnetally no
Try agaiin

Wow what they have said?

How about how generations are taught to believe all of Israel is occupied?
How about then keep people as regugees to only serve once purpose.
To deny peace
Why is it that at every turn and twice prior to the creation of Israel it was the Palestinians that refused any proposed Palestinians statehood based off not wishing for an Israel state to exist?

So again, it seems now the left admit the incitement and hate evidence must be factual, because all they are trying to do is attemot ti make Israel through some views made by Israel as if they are comparable.

I woulpd laugh as it reeks of desperartion.
As nobody denies there is those extreme in Israel, but the numbers is far removed from how a nation indoctrinates as the Palestinian authorities do to hate Jews

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Again has Irn been able to refute the indisputable evidence that hate and incitemnet by the Palestinians athuroities is not endemic?

Fundemnetally no
Try agaiin

You show


Is that it? Is that all you have to say about all these disgusting messages?

And anyway

'Abbas significantly contributing to stability' in West Bank, senior security source says
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Abbas-significantly-contributing-to-stability-in-West-B

Been said said time and time again even by the Israeli's. You're falling for the propaganda again Didge

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Again has Irn been able to refute the indisputable evidence that hate and incitemnet by the Palestinians athuroities is not endemic?

Fundemnetally no
Try agaiin

You show


Is that it? Is that all you have to say about all these disgusting messages?

And anyway

'Abbas significantly contributing to stability' in West Bank, senior security source says
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Abbas-significantly-contributing-to-stability-in-West-B

Been said said time and time again even by  the Israeli's. You're falling for the propaganda again Didge

Thyat is the worst ecuses I have ever heard.
Accas played off a falsified claim the Palestinian s have made many times befor.
That they claim Israle is going to knock down the Mosque and build and new Temple of Solomon.
There was no Israeli state in 1929 Irn and yet the the fabricated reasons are used again to incite violence todat as they were then. He glorifies terrorist as well
Abbas is nothihg but a fraud, as again a leader who wants statehood would not place anything else above this.
Peace can be obtained as it has dione between oth arab natiins. Hence why where they explit the refugees fundemntally porves they will not stop until Israel ceases to exist.


Sio again you fail to refute thee evidence, acting uuterly child like by trying to deflect this problem, by going off Isralii inidvidual voies

try aguin

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Again has Irn been able to refute the indisputable evidence that hate and incitemnet by the Palestinians athuroities is not endemic?

Fundemnetally no
Try agaiin

You show


Is that it? Is that all you have to say about all these disgusting messages?

And anyway

'Abbas significantly contributing to stability' in West Bank, senior security source says
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Abbas-significantly-contributing-to-stability-in-West-B

Been said said time and time again even by  the Israeli's. You're falling for the propaganda again Didge

Thyat is the worst ecuses I have ever heard.
Accas played off a falsified claim the Palestinian s have made many times befor.
That they claim Israle is going to knock down the Mosque and build and new Temple of Solomon.
There was no Israeli state in 1929 Irn and yet the the fabricated reasons are used again to incite violence todat as they were then. He glorifies terrorist as well
Abbas is nothihg but a fraud, as again a leader who wants statehood would not place anything else above this.
Peace can be obtained as it has dione between oth arab natiins. Hence why where they explit the refugees fundemntally porves they will not stop until Israel ceases to exist.


Sio again you fail to refute thee evidence, acting uuterly child like by trying to deflect this problem, by going off Isralii inidvidual voies

try aguin

Didge, you'll be defending the Israeli government until the last Palestinian has been flushed out of what they claim id Eretz Israel or they are dead.

That's the plan and they have said it often enough. No two state solution ever.

And just remember It’s important to make the distinction between terror groups and freedom fighters Correct

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:


Thyat is the worst ecuses I have ever heard.
Accas played off a falsified claim the Palestinian s have made many times befor.
That they claim Israle is going to knock down the Mosque and build and new Temple of Solomon.
There was no Israeli state in 1929 Irn and yet the the fabricated reasons are used again to incite violence todat as they were then. He glorifies terrorist as well
Abbas is nothihg but a fraud, as again a leader who wants statehood would not place anything else above this.
Peace can be obtained as it has dione between oth arab natiins. Hence why where they explit the refugees fundemntally porves they will not stop until Israel ceases to exist.


Sio again you fail to refute thee evidence, acting uuterly child like by trying to deflect this problem, by going off Isralii inidvidual voies

try aguin

Didge, you'll be defending the Israeli government until the last Palestinian has been flushed out of what they claim id Eretz Israel or they are dead.

That's the plan and they have said it often enough. No two state solution ever.

And just remember It’s important to make the distinction between terror groups and freedom fighters  Correct

Flawed reasoning again.
I am not defending any Israeli government here and actually unlike you where you fail to condemn with Paestinian groups like Hamas.  I have condemned some acts of the Israeli goverment. I am against any settlements for a start and have made this known many times
I also defend the right tio the Palestinians to have a state of theie own as well



Y

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:


Thyat is the worst ecuses I have ever heard.
Accas played off a falsified claim the Palestinian s have made many times befor.
That they claim Israle is going to knock down the Mosque and build and new Temple of Solomon.
There was no Israeli state in 1929 Irn and yet the the fabricated reasons are used again to incite violence todat as they were then. He glorifies terrorist as well
Abbas is nothihg but a fraud, as again a leader who wants statehood would not place anything else above this.
Peace can be obtained as it has dione between oth arab natiins. Hence why where they explit the refugees fundemntally porves they will not stop until Israel ceases to exist.


Sio again you fail to refute thee evidence, acting uuterly child like by trying to deflect this problem, by going off Isralii inidvidual voies

try aguin

Didge, you'll be defending the Israeli government until the last Palestinian has been flushed out of what they claim id Eretz Israel or they are dead.

That's the plan and they have said it often enough. No two state solution ever.

And just remember It’s important to make the distinction between terror groups and freedom fighters  Correct

Flawed reasoning again.
I am not defending any Israeli government here and actually unlike you where you fail to condemn with Paestinian groups like Hamas.  I have condemned some acts of the Israeli goverment. I am against any settlements for a start and have made this known many times
I also defend the right tio the Palestinians to have a state of theie own as well



Y

You've never stopped defending them and I condemn all killing of innocent people whether it's carried out by the miltary wing of the Israeli government, Israeli settlers or Israeli extremists, Islamic extremists and the many groups operating in and around Palestine. I've said it often enough.

Yes, you whimper about the settlements but that's about it.

So what's your comments about all these disgusting messages coming out of the mouths of the Israeli leaders and the others mentioned?

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:


Flawed reasoning again.
I am not defending any Israeli government here and actually unlike you where you fail to condemn with Paestinian groups like Hamas.  I have condemned some acts of the Israeli goverment. I am against any settlements for a start and have made this known many times
I also defend the right tio the Palestinians to have a state of theie own as well



Y

You've never stopped defending them and I condemn all killing of innocent people whether it's carried out by the miltary wing of the Israeli government, Israeli settlers or Israeli extremists, Islamic extremists and the many groups operating in and around Palestine. I've said it often enough.

Yes, you whimper about the settlements but that's about it.

So what's your comments about all these disgusting messages coming out of the mouths of the Israeli leaders and the others mentioned?

Fundemnetally lying again I see
I defend against poor accusations and fabrications against the nation and people of Israel, espcially when their intent is deligitimization, with is discrmination and prejudice
I do not support political parties in Israel, hence the absurdity of your point which again reeks of desperation


So as per usual when you cannot counter my points or the evidence, you steer the debate to talk only about me and then make even worse daft claims to my views. At least I back up my reasoning when you openly state you support Hams. lol as see you invent nonsens

So on a thread about the incitement of Hamas and Fatah, he now wants me to ignore he has no answer and go off what Israeli ministers have said.
My comments to any hate are the same, it achieves nothuing and hence why I jnow and understand Hamas and Fatah have no intention of having peace, as they look for any reason to have peace .


Try again

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:


Flawed reasoning again.
I am not defending any Israeli government here and actually unlike you where you fail to condemn with Paestinian groups like Hamas.  I have condemned some acts of the Israeli goverment. I am against any settlements for a start and have made this known many times
I also defend the right tio the Palestinians to have a state of theie own as well



Y

You've never stopped defending them and I condemn all killing of innocent people whether it's carried out by the miltary wing of the Israeli government, Israeli settlers or Israeli extremists, Islamic extremists and the many groups operating in and around Palestine. I've said it often enough.

Yes, you whimper about the settlements but that's about it.

So what's your comments about all these disgusting messages coming out of the mouths of the Israeli leaders and the others mentioned?

Fundemnetally lying again I see
I defend against poor accusations and fabrications against the nation and people of Israel, espcially when their intent is deligitimization, with is discrmination and prejudice
I do not support political parties in Israel, hence the absurdity of your point which again reeks of desperation


So as per usual when you cannot counter my points or the evidence, you steer the debate to talk only about me and then make even worse daft claims to my views. At least I back up my reasoning when you openly state you support Hams. lol as see you invent nonsens

So on a thread about the incitement of Hamas and Fatah, he now wants me to ignore he has no answer and go off what Israeli ministers have said.
My comments to any hate are the same, it achieves nothuing and hence why I jnow and understand Hamas and Fatah have no intention of having peace, as they look for any reason to have peace .


Try again

You said ‘show me how of late and where that Israel has named places after Israeli terrorists you did ask so don't blame me for giving you the answer. You just didn't like it.

I gave you a tidal wave on that score and then I asked you for your comments about all these disgusting messages coming out of the mouths of the Israeli leaders and the others mentioned - and there were no fabrications in any of that lot either.

You have not commented on any one of them including the King David Hotel massacre and you have not condemned any of them either. The Israeli terrorists I showed you murdered well over 200 British soldiers serving as a peace keeping force in Palestine and you have nothing to say on the people that did that? Many of these men served in WWII fighting the Nazi’s and helping to liberate people still left barely alive in the death camps.

I asked you for your comments on the disgusting messages and you couldn’t bring yourself to do it on any one of them and you wouldn’t condemn them just like you wouldn’t condemn the traitors who collaborated with the Nazi’s - just because you were half Irish. You couldn’t even condemn Eamon De Valera for signing a book of condolences following Hitler’s death. All you did was just laugh when I brought it up in a discussion. You laughed Didge, you laughed when you could have taken a leaf out of what Angela D. Walsh of New York said in a letter addressed to him...:

Have you seen the motion pictures of the victims of German concentration camps, de Valera? Have you seen the crematoriums? Have you seen the bodies of little children murdered by Nazi hands? Have you seen the flourishing cabbages—cabbages for German food—flourishing because of the fertiliser, human remains of citizens from almost completely Catholic countries like Poland? These were citizens of a conquered country—and ÉIRE might easily have been a conquered country, neutrality or no neutrality. Have you seen the living dead, de Valera? Skin stretched over bone, and too weak to walk?

You could have done something like that but but no, instead you just laughed.

You don’t appear to ever get tired of defending these people do you? You had your chance to condemn all these people and you didn’t take it so don’t come back snivelling now and say that you condemn them now because it’s too late.

Shame on you.

And by the way – I don’t tell lies. I’ll leave that to you.

So again nothing to refute their findings.
I am not disputing some politicians of Israel have said some appalling things, which I condemn but this is about fiundementally the PA, Fath and Hamas inciting the current wave of violence which seems to go way above that head of yours as usual
So again why is it you cannot accepot that the claims around the Mosque were false just as they were in 1929 which led to Jews being murdered as is the case today, were even worse they are glorifying those who kill Israeli civillians as Martyrs.
So why is it you at every turn fail to condemn this.

Last chance to answer or all we see your are complicit yet again to supporting terrorism

And all these brutal murders included those who served in the Parachute Regiment who lost a lot of men who were blown up or gunned down in ambushes and also Marines hanged in an orchard with their bodies being booby trapped with explosives intended  to kill , maim and wound even more. The people commemorating  the massacre at the King David Hotel were celebrating  these terrorists in the unveiling of the plaque These people even had the audacity to call our soldiers British Nazi’s. Go look at a website about the Parachute Regiment for the list of those who died serving there – you’ll find it here Didge...
 
http://www.parachuteregiment-hsf.org/Palestine.htm
 
#You ain’t no friend of the British Bruv.

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again nothing to refute their findings.
I am not disputing some politicians of Israel have said some appalling things, which I condemn but this is about fiundementally the PA, Fath and Hamas inciting the current wave of violence which seems to go way above that head of yours as usual
So again why is it you cannot accepot that the claims around the Mosqque were false just as they were in 1929 which led to Jews being murdered as is the case today, were even worse they are glorifying those who kill Israeli cicvillians as Martyrs.
So why is it you at every turn fail to condemn this.

Last chance to answer or all we see your are complicit yet again to supporting terrorism

Didge, you asked me to show you the evidence to support what I said and now you don't want to even discuss it.

And still no condemantion of what they said or what the were celebrating.

Good Grief.

Lol is sassy now posting as Zack?

Or clearly complict to post what he sends her?

I condemn the terrorist acts by the Jews against the British, wherre ever have I not done so.

I think though we now know that sassy and zack are in league together via PMs lol

sassy wrote:And all these brutal murders included those who served in the Parachute Regiment who lost a lot of men who were blown up or gunned down in ambushes and also Marines hanged in an orchard with their bodies being booby trapped with explosives intended  to kill , maim and wound even more. The people commemorating  the massacre at the King David Hotel were celebrating   these terrorists in the unveiling of the plaque These people even had the audacity to call our soldiers British Nazi’s. Go look at a website about the Parachute Regiment for the list of those who died serving there – you’ll find it here Didge...
 
http://www.parachuteregiment-hsf.org/Palestine.htm
 
#You ain’t no friend of the British Bruv.

I remember something on that from a while back about the losses incurred by our soldiers. Absolutely shameful.

Thanks for the liknk

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again nothing to refute their findings.
I am not disputing some politicians of Israel have said some appalling things, which I condemn but this is about fiundementally the PA, Fath and Hamas inciting the current wave of violence which seems to go way above that head of yours as usual
So again why is it you cannot accepot that the claims around the Mosqque were false just as they were in 1929 which led to Jews being murdered as is the case today, were even worse they are glorifying those who kill Israeli cicvillians as Martyrs.
So why is it you at every turn fail to condemn this.

Last chance to answer or all we see your are complicit yet again to supporting terrorism

Didge, you asked me to show you the evidence to support what I said and now you don't want to even discuss it.

And still no condemantion of what they said or what the were celebrating.

Good Grief.

Copout alert and I am asking you to condemn the clear evidenbce of this violence being incited by the 3 Palestinians authorities.

You have had your chance and again you refuse at every tunr to recognise this

If you read back I said i condemn any such view, unlike you I can condemn wrongs.

But then the Palestinians celebrated 9/11 and even took great offense when bin laden was killed, what does that tell you about the systematic hate by Palestinians

All can see you are complicit supporter of terrorism yet again

British war cemetery not immune to Gaza siege

Joe Catron The Electronic Intifada Gaza City 17 April 2014

Ibrahim Jeradeh is the Gaza War Cemetery’s longtime caretaker.
Joe Catron
On a recent, sunny afternoon, Kath Henwood, a Yorkshire paramedic volunteering in the Gaza Strip, walked through rows of headstones at the Gaza War Cemetery with a camera and notebook.
“My regular crewmate at work, in his spare time, researches World War II,” she said. “He’s really passionate about it.”
When Henwood learned of the cemetery, she said, “my first thought was to tell him about it.”
The cemetery, off Saladin street in northern Gaza City, is one of thousands maintained by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC), a consortium of Australia, Canada, India, New Zealand, South Africa and the United Kingdom.
It contains [url=http://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/71701/GAZA WAR CEMETERY]3,691 graves[/url], all but 474 of them for First World War troops from the Commonwealth of Nations. A further 210 are from the Second World War.
Others include Egyptian and Turkish soldiers, as well as Canadian United Nations peacekeepers.
Their memorials, from simple headstones to an imposing “cross of sacrifice” — a memorial found in numerous CWGC cemeteries — reflect their varied faiths: Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim and secular.
And the careful landscaping and quiet solitude around them make the cemetery an attractive destination for everyone from picnicking families to students looking for a place to study.
After she told him about it, Henwood’s colleague sent her a list of 19 graves, and asked that she photograph them.
Ibrahim Jeradeh, the cemetery’s longtime caretaker, helped her find them quickly.
Later, sitting on a marble bench in the shade of the cross of remembrance, he spoke about the cemetery and his life taking care of it.

“Killing is no good”

“War is war, and killing is killing,” he said, passing a hot cup of sugary tea. It was a theme to which he would return again and again.
“In my mind, war is no good. Killing is no good.”
Now 77, Jeradeh started working at the cemetery, then overseen by his father, when he was 20. He officially retired as its head gardener at 65, when his son Issam replaced him.
“I don’t know about politics,” he said of the changes that have affected the cemetery over nearly a century since its founding by British forces after the Third Battle of Gaza in 1917. “I know about the trees.”
But politics have rarely left Jeradeh or his trees alone for long.

Headstones destroyed

In 2006, Israeli troops bulldozed the cemetery’s perimeter wall and six of its headstones. Months later, an Israeli military helicopter fired its cannon at one of the large memorial stones.

“Two dozen other headstones have been pockmarked by shrapnel from Israeli artillery and several have been completely destroyed,” The Daily Telegraph newspaper reported (“Fury as Israelis damage war cemetery,” 13 November 2006).

During Operation Cast Lead, Israel’s military offensive against the Gaza Strip in late 2008 and early 2009, Israeli forces bombarded the cemetery, striking it with at least five shells and singing its grass with white phosphorous (“Israel shelled UK war graves in Gaza,” The Daily Telegraph, 20 January 2009).

The bombing again damaged the perimeter wall, along with 363 headstones (“The mighty march of progress: British war graves in Gaza,” Ma’an News Agency, 9 November 2010).

“There were no fighters here,” Jeradeh said.

Rare demands for compensation

After each of these attacks, the British government lodged rare demands that Israel compensate it for the costs of repairing the cemetery.

Israel ultimately complied, paying £20,600 ($34,400) in 2008 and £40,000 ($67,000) — less than half the £84,000 ($140,000) requested — in 2011.

“We repaired it,” Jeradeh said. “All of it. Alhamdulillah [Thanks to God], it is like new.”
The Israeli siege of the Gaza Strip has also affected the cemetery. In February 2009, a year after Paul Price’s appointment as CWGC’s regional supervisor for Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory, he had yet to be allowed by Israel to enter Gaza (“Battle still rages where my great-uncle fell in Gaza back in 1917,” The Observer, 22 February 2009).
In May 2013, a year after a seemingly simple pump failure had left the cemetery’s grass and flowers parched, the CWGC said that finally replacing the pump “proved challenging” (“Gaza war cemetery returns to former green glory,” Commonwealth War Graves Commission, 30 May 2013).

Moshe Dayan sought to exhume the five Jewish graves in the Gaza War Cemetery.
Joe Catron
Despite its foreign affiliations — which ultimately afforded it some protection — the cemetery has also been targeted by Israel culturally, as well as militarily.
Following Israel’s 1967 seizure of the Gaza Strip, Moshe Dayan, then Israeli defense minister, sought to exhume the cemetery’s five Jewish graves and take them to Israel.
The attempt came as Israeli forces looted thousands of historical artifacts, particularly Jewish ones, from their newly-occupied territories, an effort in which Dayan participated enthusiastically as both a military official and a private collector (“Stealing Palestine’s history,” This Week in Palestine, 1 October 2005).
“I refused,” Jeradeh said, his eyes bright. “I was young then. I told him, ‘Go to our office in London.’”

“No difference”

“They are buried here. How could he take them? The Jews here are Jews, not Israelis. There is no difference here between Jews, Muslims and Christians. They are all human.”
Surrounded by fields of grass and rows of colorful flowers and polished stones, the troubles of occupation and siege seemed as distant as Jeradeh’s clash with Dayan.
Maintaining the cemetery’s immaculate condition is hard work, Jeradeh said, even in retirement.
“This is the best, cleanest place in Gaza,” he said. “I work hard to keep it nice.”
Officially, since his mandatory retirement, Jeradeh has served as the cemetery’s night watchman. “I keep this place completely safe,” he said.
In practice, his work as a gardener has continued, if not at the same rate.
“I don’t buy plants,” he said. “I use the ones from my nursery. And I teach the people who work with me.”
“You see all that?” he asked, his arm sweeping across the cemetery. “My drawings.”
“I am always here. Where else should I go? Twenty-four hours a day.” Still, he acknowledged that his pace may have slowed. “Seventy-seven years is a long time.”
He also spends time with visiting family, including four sons and nine daughters. When asked how many grandchildren he had, he laughed.
“I don’t want to remember,” he said, gesturing at a group of small girls peering curiously from behind a row of headstones. “More than a hundred. But they live outside, in Gaza.”
“I like to study,” he added. “I read books on history, geography, horticulture, medicine, everything. I am always reading. And I like writing. Every day, I write what happened to me.”
When asked how long he has kept his journals, he laughed again. “I don’t remember. I have books like this,” he said, gesturing at the height of his shoulder.
“But I started when I was young, and continued day by day, year by year.”
“You are happy writing here,” he said, pointing to a notebook. “The head is clear for it.”
He showed his study, a detached building, behind the larger gardener’s quarters at the cemetery’s edge, equipped with a personal computer and filled with stacks of books and printed articles.
“The pencil is dangerous,” he said. “The man who succeeds in his life writes the facts.”
Returning to the lush greenery of the cemetery, he said, “I don’t feel any problems here … Any man, if he likes others, the others like him. If you do good for others, others do good for you.”
“Everybody knows that war is war, and killing is killing,” he repeated, gesturing again at the thousands of stones surrounded by his carefully-tended flowers.
“Now everything here is history. No one here hates anyone else.”
Joe Catron is a US activist in Gaza, Palestine. He co-edited The Prisoners’ Diaries: Palestinian Voices from the Israeli Gulag, an anthology of accounts by detainees freed in the 2011 prisoner exchange. Follow him on Twitter: @jncatron.


https://electronicintifada.net/content/british-war-cemetery-not-immune-gaza-siege/13325

So the question is?
Is Zack, Sassy or visa versa?

More about them:

Synopsis

George Webb



The author enlisted in the Royal Artillery as a Regular in May 1946 when he was just under 18 and after training, was posted to 2 Field Regt RA in Palestine (soon afterwards re-numbered 41 Field Regt) where he arrived in March 1947. From then until he left Palestine with his Regiment when the United Nations Mandate to Britain to govern the country expired, he was exposed almost daily to the violence and verbal abuse which were experienced by all members of the British forces there, many of whom had taken part in the liberation of Jews held in Nazi concentration camps in 1945 and were now themselves being called "British Nazi bastards", an exhibition of gross ingratitude which was hard to take. Since his retirement from civilian employment, the author has spent many years in studying the role of the British forces and their terrorist opponents in Palestine, and has now written this book both as a memorial to all British servicemen who now lie in the military cemeteries of Ramleh and Khayat Beach, (a full list of whom appears in its pages) and a reminder, (if any were needed) that the terrorist leaders of yesterday more often than not become the honoured politicians of today.



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epitaph-Army-Peacekeepers-Palestine-1945-1948/dp/0907322913

Richard The Lionheart wrote:A delegation of Australian and British politicians visiting Israel and the Palestinian Authority used Palestinian Media Watch's findings to challenge and question PA officials. After confronting the PA officials, Australian MP Glenn Sterle "strongly recommended a briefing from Palestinian Media Watch before any meetings with the PA," The Jerusalem Post reported.
 
The Australian and British delegation had heard a presentation by PMW director Itamar Marcus, which, among other things, documented the PA's practice of glorifying terrorists who have killed Israeli civilians. After the PMW presentation, the delegation met with PA Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah and PA Minister of Education Sabri Saidam. The British and Australian delegates confronted and questioned the PA officials about the PA practice of naming schools and sporting events after terrorists and their educating Palestinian children and youth to hate Israelis and Jews.
 
PA Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah denied that any schools in the West Bank are named after terrorists, despite the fact that [url=http://www.palwatch.org/STORAGE/special reports/PA Education Report for Teachers Union]PMW has clearly documented[/url] this. Hamdallah even "defend[ed] the practice of 'honoring' terrorist-suicide bombers," Australian MP Glenn Sterle said. Hamdallah had further told the delegation to "check their information." [The Jerusalem Post, Dec. 15, 2015]
 
After the meeting with the Australian-British delegation, the PA Minister of Education Dr. Sabri Saidam said that he "was surprised by the group's 'explosive, blunt and rude' questions about Palestine's education system." "There was a lot of incitement I would say on behalf of the delegation meaning or implying that the Palestinians are the ones terrorizing Israel," Saidam said. He complained that Australian Federal Industry Minister Christopher Pyne had not discussed education with him but instead about "political difficulties." Minister Saidam stated that Minister Pyne "had a list of questions and they were misinformed." [SBS News, Dec. 16, 2015]
 
Recently, Swedish MP Ekeroth also used PMW documentation to show Swedish Parliament that the PA does not seek peace. 


PMW has reported on the PA and Fatah's ongoing terror glorification and promotion of violence during the current wave of terror attacks against Israelis. 
 
The following are the reports on the delegation's use of PMW documentation at the meeting with PA officials in the Jerusalem Post and SBS:
 
Headline: "Grapevine: Between Jerusalem and Berlin"
By Greer Fay Cashman
"PRIOR TO the dinner on Sunday, following a presentation by Itamar Marcus from Palestinian Media Watch, Dialogue participants went to Ramallah to meet with Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah and the PA education minister, who were asked about the naming of a girls high school after a terrorist, Dalal Mughrabi; sporting events named after terrorists; branding anyone who supported peace initiatives through sport as traitors; and the preaching of hatred through the education system. According to the Australian Labor Party's Glenn Sterle, who is the senator for Western Australia in the Parliament of Australia, Australian and UK delegates were at all times respectful and courteous to the prime minister when putting their questions. The prime minister gave a brief overview of the situation between Israel and the PA. He shared the concerns the PA has with Hamas and the reconstruction effort of the PA in Gaza. He told the group that the Palestinians are willing to commence peace talks toward a two-state solution with Israel, but not until there is a freeze on the expansion of settlements. The term "occupation" was used numerous times, said Sterle.
When questions from the delegation were put to the prime minister, the responses were varied, Sterle added. "Firstly, there was complete denial that any schools in the West Bank were named after terrorists. He challenged us to check our information. He reiterated a number of times that our information was incorrect. But when he was returned to the question by other members of the delegation, he then went into defending the practice of 'honoring' terrorist-suicide bombers." Sterle noted that Hamdallah was at pains to share with the group the actions of Israeli soldiers who have killed numerous Palestinian youths who have done nothing more than throwing stones at the soldiers. He used the expression "they are not here having a picnic" several times when talking about the soldiers' presence. His reasoning, said Sterle, was that Israel honors its "terrorists" by naming streets, buildings and airports after them. Names such as Ben-Gurion, Sharon and Meir - people who, he said, killed Palestinians - were cited. He also mentioned Baruch Goldstein, who killed 29 Muslim worshipers at prayer in Hebron. At one stage, said Sterle, Hamdallah got a little agitated as the group continued to bring him back to the topic of honoring terrorists through sporting events and the education system. The same theme of questioning was put to the education minister, and the same answers came back to the group. Trimble opened the session with the process of inclusion between children from both sides of the Northern Ireland conflict. The minister appeared not to be interested in further conversation in this area, though he did say the assistance of the international community was needed to commence peace talks. Sterle, for whom this was not the first Dialogue gathering, said that it is imperative to have the visit to Ramallah included in all Dialogue visits. "It is definitely worthwhile for delegates to meet and hear from the PA ," he said, and strongly recommended a briefing from Palestinian Media Watch before any meetings with the PA."

[The Jerusalem Post, Dec. 15, 2015]

 
Headline: Pyne defends Palestinian talks approach

 

Picture caption: Bronwyn Bishop, Christopher Pyne speaks to 

the Palestinian Education Minister (@timwilsoncomau) (Twitter)

 
Sub-headline: "Federal Industry Minister Christopher Pyne has defended the approach a delegation took to discussions with Palestinian authorities in the West Bank"
Source: AAP
"The Federal Industry Minister Christopher Pyne has defended his approach in high-level discussions in the West Bank at the weekend.  Mr Pyne was part of a delegation of British and Australian politicians visiting Israel, before heading for talks with Palestinian authorities in Ramallah. The Palestinian Education Minister Dr Sabri Saidam told SBS News he had expected the discussions to focus on education, but was surprised by the group's "explosive, blunt and rude" questions about Palestine's education system.
He said both Australian and British MPs asked the offensive questions. "There was a lot of incitement I would say on behalf of the delegation meaning or implying that the Palestinians are the ones terrorising Israel when we have been subjected to the longest occupation, as I said, of modern times," he said. Dr Saidam said Mr Pyne sidetracked from his Innovation portfolio to concentrate on political discussions. "I had hoped that the Minister of Innovation would spend some time talking about Innovation, Industry and Science and I said you are now welcome,  the Ministry of Service that runs schools and manages higher education entities, that we should be talking education. Instead, we were diverted to talk about political difficulties and talking about challenges and he had a list of questions and they were misinformed."
In response, Mr Pyne's office sent the following statement:
"Members of the delegation are responsible for their own comments and behaviour.
"The Minister personally engaged in constructive discussions centred around understanding Palestinian attitudes to the peace project."
Dr Saidam said he gave the group a textbook on education in Palestine and encouraged members to pose their same questions to the Israeli Government."

[SBS, Special Broadcasting Service (Australian news agency), Dec. 16, 2015

http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=16714

I see the pair are desperate to divert the actual topic of the debate.

If they want to start up about Israeli wrongs, then I happy to address, but considering they bring up terrorism by Jews against the British and current politicians or Israeli extremists shows they are so deserpate to avoid talking about the problems of hate among Palestunians even more so the authorities


Now what does that tell you about the 3 posters?

Now the next time Sassy spams deliberately trying to avoid and derail this thread she will be reported.
If you have others aspects you wish to debate, then start a thread.
This is on the incitement of the palestinian authorities
Who glorify Israeli civillains being murdered.

You NEVER address Israeli wrongs, just rattle off Israeli propaganda hasbara.

And today, the people who were shown dancing with guns and stabbing the picture of the baby they had burnt to death, who were arrested, HAVE BEEN LET GO, even though they are on camera calling for death and murder.

sassy wrote:You NEVER address Israeli wrongs, just rattle off Israeli propaganda hasbara.

And today, the people who were shown dancing with guns and stabbing the picture of the baby they had burnt to death, who were arrested, HAVE BEEN LET GO, even though they are on camera calling for death and murder.

This is a thread on:



PMW findings used to confront PA officials

I as seeen already condemn Israeli officals, not that any of that has anything to do with this thread.
What it shows is everytime the Palestinian authorities are shown in up for what they aere the three of you do anything to get out of debating that,
Quite frankly its pathetic and the worst appeasement

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again nothing to refute their findings.
I am not disputing some politicians of Israel have said some appalling things, which I condemn but this is about fiundementally the PA, Fath and Hamas inciting the current wave of violence which seems to go way above that head of yours as usual
So again why is it you cannot accepot that the claims around the Mosqque were false just as they were in 1929 which led to Jews being murdered as is the case today, were even worse they are glorifying those who kill Israeli cicvillians as Martyrs.
So why is it you at every turn fail to condemn this.

Last chance to answer or all we see your are complicit yet again to supporting terrorism

Didge, you asked me to show you the evidence to support what I said and now you don't want to even discuss it.

And still no condemantion of what they said or what the were celebrating.

Good Grief.

Copout alert and I am asking you to condemn the clear evidenbce of this violence being incited by the 3 Palestinians authorities.

You have had your chance and again you refuse at every tunr to recognise this

If you read back I said i condemn any such view, unlike you I can condemn wrongs.

But then the Palestinians celebrated 9/11 and even took great offense when bin laden was killed, what does that tell you about the systematic hate by Palestinians

All can see you are complicit supporter of terrorism yet again

I condemn all terrorists whethet it's by the military wing of the Israeli government, Israeli settlers or Ismamic groups on innocent people and peace-keeping forces and I've said it often enough.

This thread you have started is pure propaganda by the PMW who are well known for cherry-picking extracts from the Palestian medis - proved in court as well. And I answered your points by pointing out the cooperation between Israel and the PA.

Lets face it the British delegation were hardly ever going to say anything else were they. They could have just read the US funded academic study to get the truth couldn't they.

And the British delegation to all this were the Conservative Friends of Israel
Participants:

Rt. Hon. Sir Eric Pickles MP, Conservative. Trip costs donated by the CFI

Rt. Hon. Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, Conservative, Trip costs donated by the CFI

Guto Bebb MP,  Conservative. Trip costs for him and his wife donated by the CFI

Andrew Percy MP,  Conservative. Trip costs donated by the CFI

Jack Lopresti MP, Conservative. Trip costs donated by the CFI. And he’s in the news at the moment and in big trouble with his missus after being exposed in shagging another Tory MP behind her back.

'He is a pig... he didn't say a thing, the ratbag': Friend of wife jilted by Tory MP tells how she is beside herself after he only revealed affair when he learnt it was about to be exposed

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3369653/He-pig-didn-t-say-thing-ratbag-Friend-wife-jilted-Tory-MP-tells-revealed-affair-learnt-exposed.html#ixzz3vq3MB76R

What a motley crew that lot are

Given your views on this thread in relation to what Israel were celebrating with the plaque. I think it's pretty clear who is complicit in supporrting terrorism Didge.

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

sassy wrote:You NEVER address Israeli wrongs, just rattle off Israeli propaganda hasbara.

And today, the people who were shown dancing with guns and stabbing the picture of the baby they had burnt to death, who were arrested, HAVE BEEN LET GO, even though they are on camera calling for death and murder.

This is a thread on:



PMW findings used to confront PA officials

I as seeen already condemn Israeli officals, not that any of that has anything to do with this thread.
What it shows is everytime the Palestinian authorities are shown in up for what they aere the three of you do anything to get out of debating that,
Quite frankly its pathetic and the worst appeasement

But you asked for the evidence to support what I said

So is pure propaganda, even then its all documented, but when Israeli's its factual. If ever anyone ever needed any proof Irn is inacapable of being impartial there it is for all to see. Even the lawyer you have used agauinst the PA proved that what he documented was correct in reagrds to hate being promoted on certain television channel. Not only that they have had many take on their evidence also, which you also cannot refute

So again all you can try and do is deligitimize and fail badly everytime you attempt to do so.]
So you are saying that all the evidence is false.

That makes you complicit to the hate promoted by the PA, Hamas and Fatah which is there for all to see them glorifying the terrorists that have been murdering Israeli's


Thanks Irn, I knew you would end up digging your own grave



Unless you can prove it is false, then I am afraid you just made yourself complicit to hate.

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:


This is a thread on:



PMW findings used to confront PA officials

I as seeen already condemn Israeli officals, not that any of that has anything to do with this thread.
What it shows is everytime the Palestinian authorities are shown in up for what they aere the three of you do anything to get out of debating that,
Quite frankly its pathetic and the worst appeasement

But you asked for the evidence to support what I said

Just to have you run around, proving how desperate you are to get out of condemning anything that associates with Palestin ians, and like the idiot you did.

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So is pure propaganda, even then its all documented, but when Israeli's its factual. If ever anyone ever needed any proof Irn is inacapable of being impartial there it is for all to see. Even the lawyer you have used agauinst the PA proved that what he documented was correct in reagrds to hate being promoted on certain television channel. Not only that they have had many take on their evidence also, which you also cannot refute

So again all you can try and do is deligitimize and fail badly everytime you attempt to do so.]
So you are saying that all the evidence is false.

That makes you complicit to the hate promoted by the PA, Hamas and Fatah which is there for all to see them glorifying the terrorists that have been murdering Israeli's


Thanks Irn, I knew you would end up digging your own grave



Unless you can prove it is false, then I am afraid you just made yourself complicit to hate.

I gave you the evidence on the points. The US funded academic study.. The coperation between Israel and the PA on securty matters.

The rest is all BS by the discredited PMW.

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:


This is a thread on:



PMW findings used to confront PA officials

I as seeen already condemn Israeli officals, not that any of that has anything to do with this thread.
What it shows is everytime the Palestinian authorities are shown in up for what they aere the three of you do anything to get out of debating that,
Quite frankly its pathetic and the worst appeasement

But you asked for the evidence to support what I said

Just to have you run around, proving how desperate you are to get out of condemning anything that associates with Palestin ians, and like the idiot you did.

No Didge. You thought I didn't have any evidence. How wrong you were

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So is pure propaganda, even then its all documented, but when Israeli's its factual. If ever anyone ever needed any proof Irn is inacapable of being impartial there it is for all to see. Even the lawyer you have used agauinst the PA proved that what he documented was correct in reagrds to hate being promoted on certain television channel. Not only that they have had many take on their evidence also, which you also cannot refute

So again all you can try and do is deligitimize and fail badly everytime you attempt to do so.]
So you are saying that all the evidence is false.

That makes you complicit to the hate promoted by the PA, Hamas and Fatah which is there for all to see them glorifying the terrorists that have been murdering Israeli's


Thanks Irn, I knew you would end up digging your own grave



Unless you can prove it is false, then I am afraid you just made yourself complicit to hate.

I gave you the evidence on the points. The US funded academic study.. The coperation between Israel and the PA on securty matters.

The rest is all BS by the discredited PMW.

You have given no evidence that refutes the current findings that shows them glorifying Israelis being murdered and inciting violence.
Your claims are unfounded and you based them off a hate not any evidence.

So again you are complicit to hate by the PA, Hamas and Fatah who have been documented not just by the PMW, Memeri and even Palestinians themselves showing the hate is systematic]
You are just a clown with your head continually stuck in the groun afriad to condemn those in the wrong here, that being the Palestinian authorities

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So is pure propaganda, even then its all documented, but when Israeli's its factual. If ever anyone ever needed any proof Irn is inacapable of being impartial there it is for all to see. Even the lawyer you have used agauinst the PA proved that what he documented was correct in reagrds to hate being promoted on certain television channel. Not only that they have had many take on their evidence also, which you also cannot refute

So again all you can try and do is deligitimize and fail badly everytime you attempt to do so.]
So you are saying that all the evidence is false.

That makes you complicit to the hate promoted by the PA, Hamas and Fatah which is there for all to see them glorifying the terrorists that have been murdering Israeli's


Thanks Irn, I knew you would end up digging your own grave



Unless you can prove it is false, then I am afraid you just made yourself complicit to hate.

I gave you the evidence on the points. The US funded academic study.. The coperation between Israel and the PA on securty matters.

The rest is all BS by the discredited PMW.

You have given no evidence that refutes the current findings that shows them glorifying Israelis being murdered and inciting violence.
Your claims are unfounded and you based them off a hate not any evidence.

So again you are complicit to hate by the PA, Hamas and Fatah who have been documented not just by the PMW, Memeri and even Palestinians themselves showing the hate is systematic]
You are just a clown with your head continually stuck in the groun afriad to condemn those in the wrong here, that being the Palestinian authorities

No Didge. I gave you the evidence about the US funded academic study on comparing text books and the views of the Israelis themselves about security matters and the cooperation that exists between the Israeli’s and the PA but you ignore it all. I have no doubt that there is hate and incitement involved but it is coming from both sides and I gave you an avalanche of statements from the Israeli’s, past and present, which are fuelled by hate. And if you condemn the terrorism from the Jewish extremists then you condemn the very people that have buildings, streets, universities and even an airport named in their honour.

You are so blinkered on this that you just can’t see it or else you can but you just deny it which is even worse and indeed shameful and an indictment on you as evidence that you support terrorism in every sense of the word.

sassy wrote:More about them:

Synopsis

George Webb



The author enlisted in the Royal Artillery as a Regular in May 1946 when he was just under 18 and after training, was posted to 2 Field Regt RA in Palestine (soon afterwards re-numbered 41 Field Regt) where he arrived in March 1947. From then until he left Palestine with his Regiment when the United Nations Mandate to Britain to govern the country expired, he was exposed almost daily to the violence and verbal abuse which were experienced by all members of the British forces there, many of whom had taken part in the liberation of Jews held in Nazi concentration camps in 1945 and were now themselves being called "British Nazi bastards", an exhibition of gross ingratitude which was hard to take. Since his retirement from civilian employment, the author has spent many years in studying the role of the British forces and their terrorist opponents in Palestine, and has now written this book both as a memorial to all British servicemen who now lie in the military cemeteries of Ramleh and Khayat Beach, (a full list of whom appears in its pages) and a reminder, (if any were needed) that the terrorist leaders of yesterday more often than not become the honoured politicians of today.



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Epitaph-Army-Peacekeepers-Palestine-1945-1948/dp/0907322913

I missed this post. "British Nazi bastards", Where's the condemnation of all this? And shelling war graves as well. Just how bad does it have to be to get someone to show disgust at this and condemn it?

Yep, and it was the Palestinians who repaired it, even though we gave their country to Israel and made them refugess.

Irn Bru wrote:

Richard The Lionheart wrote:

You have given no evidence that refutes the current findings that shows them glorifying Israelis being murdered and inciting violence.
Your claims are unfounded and you based them off a hate not any evidence.

So again you are complicit to hate by the PA, Hamas and Fatah who have been documented not just by the PMW, Memeri and even Palestinians themselves showing the hate is systematic]
You are just a clown with your head continually stuck in the groun afriad to condemn those in the wrong here, that being the Palestinian authorities

No Didge. I gave you the evidence about the US funded academic study on comparing text books and the views of the Israelis themselves about security matters and the cooperation that exists between the Israeli’s and the PA but you ignore it all. I have no doubt that there is hate and incitement involved but it is coming from both sides and I gave you an avalanche of statements from the Israeli’s, past and present, which are fuelled by hate. And if you condemn the terrorism from the Jewish extremists then you condemn the very people that have buildings, streets, universities and even an airport named in their honour.

You are so blinkered on this that you just can’t see it or else you can but you just deny it which is even worse and indeed shameful and an indictment on you as evidence that you support terrorism in every sense of the word.

You have given me something which has nothing to do with the recent terrorism and incitment to violence which is as stated utterly irrelevant,
What is relevant is this documented evidence is backed up by 93 percent antisemitism in the Palestinian territroies
How this is backed up by two thirds of Palestinians supporting the the stabbing of Israelis civillians in a poll conducted by Palestinians in the Palestinians terrirtories. How this is backed up that when extremist Israelis commit a terrorist act countless Israeli's take to the streets in protest and you see nothing comparable to the Palestinians to attacks on Israelis.  How they noramlize the killing of Israeli civillians to the point of justiciation through a view of viewing all Israel occupied. I could go on the list is endless but you just want to put your hands over your ears and go la la la la la. The incitement is so one sided from the palestinian authorities and Palestinians it is evident in the actions of what is dcumented and the attacks on Israeli civillains with the massive support.

So its time you woke up and condemn which you refuse to do and even worse choose to argue does not exist when it fundementally does. Again I condemn settlements, I do not condemn tearing down terrorists homes, in fact I support such a penalty for those who commit to terrorism. I condemn any buildings, streets etc named after terrorists, but what you named is not of the present and how glorfiy daily those who attack Israelis agains showing how far removed you are from reality