houses

veya_victaous wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:what a load of crap....
the "common people" fight it every time they go to the polls.....

see vaya...we beleive (in general) in "the will of the people"

NOT in some dictator like you that lays down what opinion is acceptable or not

Yeah Cause You'd be happy if ISIS were elected in Syria, Or if they only got 10% of the vote it would make there existence Ok?
Face it YOU are all for using force on OTHER people and nations. But when the Evil is Clearly coming out of Europe/Uk your like "Oh no it is a legitimate view and must be Protected.. " and the only reason is they are white, how is the EDLs Stuff any different than ISIS making Muslim only nations? it's not

Twat...how often do I HAVE to say it.....MY way to deal with it (and it should have been done years ago), would be to seal em IN...NO-ONE gets out, no refugees nothing and nothing gets in

and let em slaughter one another

then when the dust settles....tell the remaining 100,000 survivors they either behave nicely or we shut the gates again.....

I have never seen interfering in anothe states internal affairs as a "righteous thing" (unlike you lefties who want to stop "dictator "x" from murdering a million of his own people)

as long as "they" are no threat to "us" WTF has it to do with us???

the sooner we can get away from using oil and send the arabs scuttling back into their sand dunes the better for me...but then YOU will want to send em aid, blaming US for "raping their resources" despite the fact we have paid them trillions over the years for it. NOW what their "leaders " did with that money aint my concern....or my "fault" either.


@Irn
it comes from the typical Racist reaction we have come to expect from the UK (seriously trying to beat the Southern sates of the USA for concentration of redneck) ... Immigrants might get something so they have to Cry, they might have to work So they have to Cry, they might have to compete they have to cry.

veya_victaous wrote:@Raggs
STFU
I am using EDL to try and make you happy by not saying Brit.. I don't give a fuck about the actual party Whatever Race hate group from the UK.

50% of the news out of the UK that is not related to the royal family is about your epidemic of race hate groups and neo nazis running in politics.

veya_victaous wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:and Veya, isis already have their representatives here, ready to stand in the next election....

so

And You are trying to argue that Brits are NOT Dumb
you just lost that argument

Irn Bru wrote:Here's what happens...

http://www.helptobuy.gov.uk/mortgage-guarantee/how-does-it-work

A mortgage supported by the Help to Buy: mortgage guarantee scheme works in exactly the same way as any other mortgage except that under the scheme the Government offers lenders the option to purchase a guarantee on mortgage loans.

Because of this support, lenders taking part are able to offer home buyers more high-loan-to-value mortgages (80-95%).

You will still be fully responsible for your mortgage repayments. So if you have a 5% deposit, you will need to take out and pay back a 95% mortgage.

The ISA scheme isn't that much different from any other ISA scheme and besides there has only been a take up of just over 56,000 since the scheme started which is well below what was expected. So maybe it's the immigrants that will help restart the construction of new houses which is the reason for it in the first place.

Raggamuffin wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:@Raggs
STFU
I am using EDL to try and make you happy by not saying Brit.. I don't give a fuck about the actual party Whatever Race hate group from the UK.

50% of the news out of the UK that is not related to the royal family is about your epidemic of race hate groups and neo nazis running in politics.

No I won't STFU. Not only are you completely off topic, but you're now trying to stop me pulling you up for your violent nature and racism.

The EDL is not a political party by the way. Perhaps you should learn something before you start spouting off.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:Here's what happens...

http://www.helptobuy.gov.uk/mortgage-guarantee/how-does-it-work

A mortgage supported by the Help to Buy: mortgage guarantee scheme works in exactly the same way as any other mortgage except that under the scheme the Government offers lenders the option to purchase a guarantee on mortgage loans.

Because of this support, lenders taking part are able to offer home buyers more high-loan-to-value mortgages (80-95%).

You will still be fully responsible for your mortgage repayments. So if you have a 5% deposit, you will need to take out and pay back a 95% mortgage.

The ISA scheme isn't that much different from any other ISA scheme and besides there has only been a take up of just over 56,000 since the scheme started which is well below what was expected. So maybe it's the immigrants that will help restart the construction of new houses which is the reason for it in the first place.

The ISA scheme is different because the Government pays a bonus when you buy a house. Other ISA schemes just have tax-free interest, and anyone can have one.

veya_victaous wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

No I won't STFU. Not only are you completely off topic, but you're now trying to stop me pulling you up for your violent nature and racism.

The EDL is not a political party by the way. Perhaps you should learn something before you start spouting off.

so it is just as standard Brits Social Group that's activities include Promotion of Racial division, Nationalism, trying create and Anglo Apartheid.

That makes it much worse 

Lord Foul wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

No I won't STFU. Not only are you completely off topic, but you're now trying to stop me pulling you up for your violent nature and racism.

The EDL is not a political party by the way. Perhaps you should learn something before you start spouting off.

so it is just as standard Brits Social Group that's activities include Promotion of Racial division, Nationalism, trying create and Anglo Apartheid.

That makes it much worse 

NO. Its a bunch of english veyas that would (just like you) love to impose their view on everyone else but are frustrated by the fact no one takes them particularly seriously

Irn Bru wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

The ISA scheme is different because the Government pays a bonus when you buy a house. Other ISA schemes just have tax-free interest, and anyone can have one.

If it's interest free then that's a bonus and besides the amount is limited anyway to £3000 and how many of the 56,000 have used the ISA scheme to save up the money and how many were immigrants?

The revenue from the tax paid on people building these homes or kick-starting the housing market more than oiffsest the tiny amount of maoney involved.

The orginal claim seemed to me appeared to be that the government were funding the morgage by paying 20% of the morgage..........they're not

Lord Foul wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Immigrants pay taxes too. And therefore they have every right to take advantage of the scheme.  


for those that do fine fuzzy...you know damn well I have no problems with them thats already here and established (with certain exceptions).....my problem with this is that its going to be offered (apparantly) to "recent imports"...who have NO tax record here...i.e they (or a family member) have not yet paid anything into the system...and its not just "immigrants...its refugees too....who it is demonstrable from the experience of other countries, are NOT economic to have Ie they do not, even over time "add value"

What you're advocating is a system of inequality. In fact as you said "native", you're actually advocating apartheid. People like you want to live on my taxes while people like me get nothing.

and no...I dont "live on your taxes...any more than you do on mine...in fact YOU live on my taxes, what with the exhorbitant fees you extort from the local health providers

You know what you can do with that suggestion.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

How do you define native?

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

How do you define native?

Lord Foul wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:


How do you define native?

now you ask fuzz, I actually have defined what I would consider "native" a good while back in a longer post about "social justice" but you probably never read it since more than half a dozen lines seems beyond your abilty to read,
so for you

"to me anyone with 30 yrs residency (them OR their parents combined) should be considered "a native "
"alternatively anyone with 10 years continuous tax and NI contributions should be considered as such, with the proviso that if they commit a criminal offence they loose ONE year of residency per year of sentence..."

so you are probably ok fuzz...

I consider you a native
and by gum you certainly act like one, a good old capitalist grabber.......

Stormee wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

I always used to say to staff - don't bring me problems bring me soluttions.

So what are your solutions stormee?

In detail.......

FIRST step to a solution is to let the whole world KNOW that they will not be allowed onto OUR soil unless they have gone through a stringent legal vetting system including health checks not paid for by us..
Secondly, NO ONE from overseas will get anything from us if they are allowed in, they MUST be ENTIRELY self sufficient for 5 years and only then will they be considered for minimum help.

Thirdly. Any legal airline/ship or train company bringing anyone into our country without bona fide entitlement papers will have MASSIVE FINES imposed on them, confiscation and or impounding of any transport vehicles and possibly jail as well.

Fourthly Tighten up all borders, more sea patrols and turn back any unauthorised ships, boats, canoes, rafts, anything which floats and has foreigners on board.

Fifth Anyone illegally assisting people to come here will be dealt with severely when caught.

Sixth anyone here employing illegals will be dealt with severely when caught and possibly be closed down..

There is your starter 'details' Irn Bru, if I can be of further assistance please let me know.

In 'details' I would like to know your views Irn Bru and how you would handle this detrimental to our island situation.

I would also like you to say whether or not you would rather look after OUR OWN needy first and foremost, pensioners, sick people and the like?

See ya later alligator.

veya_victaous wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

what a prize prat....

how many has tony robinson and his pals beheaded, then veya? How many will they when they if they get power? we have all read the demands to put Muslims heads on spikes, to treat All immigrants as second class citizens.
how many kids raped and murdered? Cant tell as the British Culture is to cover up such things
how many ethnic others have they forced at gun point to convert to their POV? That is literally there stated policy to implement in the UK So the SOLE difference is capacity, you may as well be letting ISIS run in the next election 


and YOU have the nerve to think I'M "hysterical" that was Zack

actually whats showing through is that in fact you are a nasty little dictator.....not so far removed from your object of hate  Because I Suggest what is good for goose is good for the Gander? Maybe YOU need to take off the blinders to the level of Nazi like attitudes in your nation. and the failing of common people to fight against it. 

perhaps you should learn from Nietzsche..."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not a monster become . And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."
We can already hear the Jackboots from the UK, it is already transforming into something that will need to be dealt with.

Yes and both EDL and ISIS are monsters.
So do to both, I find the posts supporting EDL as disgusting and Anti-western as post supporting ISIS.
Both should be treated as Enemies of the Western Empire.

just like there is an exception of Muslims to Denounce ISIS, there should be the exception of British Citizens to denounce EDL.


look At Raggs Brainwashed like those Silly Women that Support ISIS. British Citizenship doesn't stop you being a terrorist.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:


How do you define native?

I asked Veya that too.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

How do you define native?