Abbas Admits For the First Time That He Turned Down Peace Offer in 2008
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Abbas Admits For the First Time That He Turned Down Peace Offer in 2008
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Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has publicly confirmed for the first time that he turned down a peace offer in 2008 that would have provided for an independent Palestinian state containing all of the Gaza Strip, much of the West Bank (with land swaps), and a tunnel connecting the two areas. Abbas made his comments in an interview on Israel’s Channel 10, which has been broadcasting a three-part series on the peace talks of 2000 and 2008. According to both Abbas and Ehud Olmert, Israel’s Prime Minister in 2008, Olmert presented Abbas in September of that year with a map that delineated the borders of the future State of Palestine. Abbas said that he “rejected it out of hand” because he claimed not to be an expert on maps, and because Olmert’s domestic scandals meant that he would shortly leave office (Olmert was later convicted of corruption). While both Olmert and other Palestinian leaders have previously said that Abbas turned down a peace proposal, this is the first time that the Palestinian Authority president has admitted as such. At 24:05 of the video, Channel 10 reporter Raviv Drucker asked Abbas: “In the map that Olmert presented you, Israel would annex 6.3 percent [of the West Bank] and compensate the Palestinians with 5.8 percent [taken from pre-1967 Israel]. What did you propose in return?”
http://www.thetower.org/2580-breaking-abbas-admits-for-the-first-time-that-he-turned-down-peace-offer-in-2008/
So that is now 4 times that a Palestinian state could have been created, with lasting peace and 4 times the Palestinians have spurned the chance to do so.
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has publicly confirmed for the first time that he turned down a peace offer in 2008 that would have provided for an independent Palestinian state containing all of the Gaza Strip, much of the West Bank (with land swaps), and a tunnel connecting the two areas. Abbas made his comments in an interview on Israel’s Channel 10, which has been broadcasting a three-part series on the peace talks of 2000 and 2008. According to both Abbas and Ehud Olmert, Israel’s Prime Minister in 2008, Olmert presented Abbas in September of that year with a map that delineated the borders of the future State of Palestine. Abbas said that he “rejected it out of hand” because he claimed not to be an expert on maps, and because Olmert’s domestic scandals meant that he would shortly leave office (Olmert was later convicted of corruption). While both Olmert and other Palestinian leaders have previously said that Abbas turned down a peace proposal, this is the first time that the Palestinian Authority president has admitted as such. At 24:05 of the video, Channel 10 reporter Raviv Drucker asked Abbas: “In the map that Olmert presented you, Israel would annex 6.3 percent [of the West Bank] and compensate the Palestinians with 5.8 percent [taken from pre-1967 Israel]. What did you propose in return?”
http://www.thetower.org/2580-breaking-abbas-admits-for-the-first-time-that-he-turned-down-peace-offer-in-2008/
So that is now 4 times that a Palestinian state could have been created, with lasting peace and 4 times the Palestinians have spurned the chance to do so.
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Re: Abbas Admits For the First Time That He Turned Down Peace Offer in 2008
Richard The Lionheart wrote:eddie wrote:How the heck would anyone remember if there was a Spurs / Arsenal game in 1995??
Exactly, I used to go everyweek to see Arseanal
Like I say irn has some immature vendetta with me, he is obsessed to try and deligitimize me all the time
Its pathetic
You already answered that point by eddie but you are of course entitled to answer it twice. There was no evening game between Arsenal and Spurs in 1995 so you lied.
And I warned you a couple of weeks back that if you stop telling lies about me I'll stop telling the truth about you.
You'll learn.
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No what this proves Irn is that you fundementally need to seek help.
Again I know what happened to me, so by you going off something I was mistake on shows your true intent and hate driven obsession, that you go to these lenghs in order to try deligiti9mizinjg peopke.It proves you cannot debate, as this is all you ever do.
Like I say, you lost the debate here andf went off into an abusive rant.
Next time you derail you will be reported. As a mod you should understand the rules
Again I know what happened to me, so by you going off something I was mistake on shows your true intent and hate driven obsession, that you go to these lenghs in order to try deligiti9mizinjg peopke.It proves you cannot debate, as this is all you ever do.
Like I say, you lost the debate here andf went off into an abusive rant.
Next time you derail you will be reported. As a mod you should understand the rules
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Re: Abbas Admits For the First Time That He Turned Down Peace Offer in 2008
Richard The Lionheart wrote:Wrong and Nicko rightly called irn out for bringing this thread down with deflective abuse.
Not only that his intent was formed to make out I liefd, when I never lied, but was mistaken to the time of the came. The fact is Irn set out and even researched into this for the sole purpose of trying to catch mne out, fopr the most obsessed immature reasons.
If he does not believe me, I am not concern, but the next time he breaks the rules as he did here, I shall report him
No, you claimed that a person with a criminal conviction was unreliable as a witness in the Olmert thread so it was entirely relevant. I didn't look up anything about your supposed criminal conviction - you supplied that all by yourself.
Just please stop lying.
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Irn Bru wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:Wrong and Nicko rightly called irn out for bringing this thread down with deflective abuse.
Not only that his intent was formed to make out I liefd, when I never lied, but was mistaken to the time of the came. The fact is Irn set out and even researched into this for the sole purpose of trying to catch mne out, fopr the most obsessed immature reasons.
If he does not believe me, I am not concern, but the next time he breaks the rules as he did here, I shall report him
No, you claimed that a person with a criminal conviction was unreliable as a witness in the Olmert thread so it was entirely relevant. I didn't look up anything about your supposed criminal conviction - you supplied that all by yourself.
Just please stop lying.
All can see that is a lie, you brought up afootball game in a debate on a peace traety which was as seen spurned
So the only liar is you \irn, who blatantly breaks the rules
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Didge, you always try to use being a mod against Irn, rather childish and obviously a bone of contention with you. As you made the claim he was stalking you, you can hardly expect him not to reply. Don't tell lies if you don't want to be challenged on them.
And I think you would remember if the game was floodlit or not when you were beating the crap out of someone.
And I think you would remember if the game was floodlit or not when you were beating the crap out of someone.
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Sassy there is no disputing Irn set out to derail this thread and attempt to start what could have escalated into being out of control. He thus had clear intent to bring up irrrelvant aspects to thsin debate. That is being obessed.
There is no excuse foir his behaviour
There is no excuse foir his behaviour
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:No what this proves Irn is that you fundementally need to seek help.
Again I know what happened to me, so by you going off something I was mistake on shows your true intent and hate driven obsession, that you go to these lenghs in order to try deligiti9mizinjg peopke.It proves you cannot debate, as this is all you ever do.
Like I say, you lost the debate here andf went off into an abusive rant.
Next time you derail you will be reported. As a mod you should understand the rules
You are the one that needs help with compulsive lying. Your criminal conviction whatever it was didn't happen as you said and you have never travelled to the USA at least since 1995. They wouldn't let you in.
Stop telling lies about me and I'll stop telling the trutrh about you.
You lost the debate and the records show you were wrong. You just got annoyed that I proved it.
Own up Didge.
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Irn Bru wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:No what this proves Irn is that you fundementally need to seek help.
Again I know what happened to me, so by you going off something I was mistake on shows your true intent and hate driven obsession, that you go to these lenghs in order to try deligiti9mizinjg peopke.It proves you cannot debate, as this is all you ever do.
Like I say, you lost the debate here andf went off into an abusive rant.
Next time you derail you will be reported. As a mod you should understand the rules
You are the one that needs help with compulsive lying. Your criminal conviction whatever it was didn't happen as you said and you have never travelled to the USA at least since 1995. They wouldn't let you in.
Stop telling lies about me and I'll stop telling the trutrh about you.
You lost the debate and the records show you were wrong. You just got annoyed that I proved it.
Own up Didge.
It happened exactly as I said, where the only part I was mistaken on, was the time of day.
So even now yoiu are obessed with this. My life outside has you debating more on this and you poorly attempting to look into as if you think you can deligiimize me with poor unfounded claims.
I suggest you move on and grow up as you broke the rules deliberately derailing this thread
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Irn Bru wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:No what this proves Irn is that you fundementally need to seek help.
Again I know what happened to me, so by you going off something I was mistake on shows your true intent and hate driven obsession, that you go to these lenghs in order to try deligiti9mizinjg peopke.It proves you cannot debate, as this is all you ever do.
Like I say, you lost the debate here andf went off into an abusive rant.
Next time you derail you will be reported. As a mod you should understand the rules
You are the one that needs help with compulsive lying. Your criminal conviction whatever it was didn't happen as you said and you have never travelled to the USA at least since 1995. They wouldn't let you in.
Stop telling lies about me and I'll stop telling the trutrh about you.
You lost the debate and the records show you were wrong. You just got annoyed that I proved it.
Own up Didge.
It happened exactly as I said, where the only part I was mistaken on, was the time of day.
So even now yoiu are obessed with this. My life outside has you debating more on this and you poorly attempting to look into as if you think you can deligiimize me with poor unfounded claims.
I suggest you move on a grow up as you broke the rules deliberately derailing this thread
So why did you go back and delete 'evening game' from your post when all you had to do was admit you made a mistake? Bit late coming out with all that nonsense after all this time isn't it?
So you never travelled to the USA after 1995 which you said enabled you to lecture our American friends on all they needed to know about the Democrats, the Republicans and the modern Tea Party?
Either way there is a lie somewhere along the line.
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Point 1 OPbsession with my personal life again, which it seems you only seem to want to debate this. I admitted my mistake when I found out from my bro on the time of the game.
This has been made clear and you still want to discuss this and not the debate.
Point 2) Yes i did go to America after 1995, I suggest you check the law more carefully and due to the fact I used to work for Bank of America. So being as I have worked for an American company as well, shows I do kn ow plenty/
Again fixated on a personal aspect on my life
That is an obession
Point 3) Fundementally, you have issues, that this is more important to you, than any debate. I could list so many debates, where you have done the same and only somebody obsessed checks out any finner details in the hope you can catch me out. Which in a way shows how bad you do debate, that you have to go to such lenghs to even attempt to try and prove me wrrong.
Now I have explained myself, yet as seen you seek to debate about me.
This is your last warning.
Nest time you will be reported for blatantly breaking the rules
This has been made clear and you still want to discuss this and not the debate.
Point 2) Yes i did go to America after 1995, I suggest you check the law more carefully and due to the fact I used to work for Bank of America. So being as I have worked for an American company as well, shows I do kn ow plenty/
Again fixated on a personal aspect on my life
That is an obession
Point 3) Fundementally, you have issues, that this is more important to you, than any debate. I could list so many debates, where you have done the same and only somebody obsessed checks out any finner details in the hope you can catch me out. Which in a way shows how bad you do debate, that you have to go to such lenghs to even attempt to try and prove me wrrong.
Now I have explained myself, yet as seen you seek to debate about me.
This is your last warning.
Nest time you will be reported for blatantly breaking the rules
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Didge, I'll make you an offer that I hope you won't refuse. Stop lying about me and misreprenting me in the way you did to Nicko by stating that I looked up this information about you when you know that isn't true and you will hear no more about this incident from me.
Consider this thread has ran out of steam on that score and there isn't much more to add.
Consider this thread has ran out of steam on that score and there isn't much more to add.
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Point 1 OPbsession with my personal life again, which it seems you only seem to want to debate this. I admitted my mistake when I found out from my bro on the time of the game.
This has been made clear and you still want to discuss this and not the debate.
Point 2) Yes i did go to America after 1995, I suggest you check the law more carefully and due to the fact I used to work for Bank of America. So being as I have worked for an American company as well, shows I do kn ow plenty/
Again fixated on a personal aspect on my life
That is an obession
Point 3) Fundementally, you have issues, that this is more important to you, than any debate. I could list so many debates, where you have done the same and only somebody obsessed checks out any finner details in the hope you can catch me out. Which in a way shows how bad you do debate, that you have to go to such lenghs to even attempt to try and prove me wrrong.
Now I have explained myself, yet as seen you seek to debate about me.
This is your last warning.
Nest time you will be reported for blatantly breaking the rules
No Didge, causing bodily harm is an automatic denial of entry to the USA no matter who you worked for.
Please read my last post.
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Irn Bru wrote:Didge, I'll make you an offer that I hope you won't refuse. Stop lying about me and misreprenting me in the way you did to Nicko by stating that I looked up this information about you when you know that isn't true and you will hear no more about this incident from me.
Consider this thread has ran out of steam on that score and there isn't much more to add.
I do not make claims I cannot back up.
You have twice staed you support hams, who are deemed by the EU and the US as terrorist.
They also discriminate, commit war crimes, use human shields and do everything to ensure many OPalestinians die by their actions,
Consider you hsve been warned.
You have been given the opportunity to condemn Hamas and yet still refuse to do so.
So I never lied or misrepresented you.
You did look up information Irn, that is evident all the time anbd even have on record here that you even record things I have said, which backs with evidence your obessions with me.
Its not down to me to do anything, its up to you to move on
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Irn Bru wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:Point 1 OPbsession with my personal life again, which it seems you only seem to want to debate this. I admitted my mistake when I found out from my bro on the time of the game.
This has been made clear and you still want to discuss this and not the debate.
Point 2) Yes i did go to America after 1995, I suggest you check the law more carefully and due to the fact I used to work for Bank of America. So being as I have worked for an American company as well, shows I do kn ow plenty/
Again fixated on a personal aspect on my life
That is an obession
Point 3) Fundementally, you have issues, that this is more important to you, than any debate. I could list so many debates, where you have done the same and only somebody obsessed checks out any finner details in the hope you can catch me out. Which in a way shows how bad you do debate, that you have to go to such lenghs to even attempt to try and prove me wrrong.
Now I have explained myself, yet as seen you seek to debate about me.
This is your last warning.
Nest time you will be reported for blatantly breaking the rules
No Didge, causing bodily harm is an automatic denial of entry to the USA no matter who you worked for.
Please read my last post.
No because you can still apply for a visa and it helps when I was working for as stated Bank of America to have waver of permenant inegibility,
So get over your obession and also read up on the law
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Irn Bru wrote:Didge, I'll make you an offer that I hope you won't refuse. Stop lying about me and misreprenting me in the way you did to Nicko by stating that I looked up this information about you when you know that isn't true and you will hear no more about this incident from me.
Consider this thread has ran out of steam on that score and there isn't much more to add.
I do not make claims I cannot back up.
You have twice staed you support hams, who are deemed by the EU and the US as terrorist.
They also discriminate, commit war crimes, use human shields and do everything to ensure many OPalestinians die by their actions,
Consider you hsve been warned.
You have been given the opportunity to condemn Hamas and yet still refuse to do so.
So I never lied or misrepresented you.
You did look up information Irn, that is evident all the time anbd even have on record here that you even record things I have said, which backs with evidence your obessions with me.
Its not down to me to do anything, its up to you to move on
You lying little git, you lied to Nicko and manipulated him to get him to believe something that was absolutely until. Not only that, but you knew it was untrue because you had freely given the information.
Don't blame other people because you are a lying git.
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sassy wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
I do not make claims I cannot back up.
You have twice staed you support hams, who are deemed by the EU and the US as terrorist.
They also discriminate, commit war crimes, use human shields and do everything to ensure many OPalestinians die by their actions,
Consider you hsve been warned.
You have been given the opportunity to condemn Hamas and yet still refuse to do so.
So I never lied or misrepresented you.
You did look up information Irn, that is evident all the time anbd even have on record here that you even record things I have said, which backs with evidence your obessions with me.
Its not down to me to do anything, its up to you to move on
You lying little git, you lied to Nicko and manipulated him to get him to believe something that was absolutely until. Not only that, but you knew it was untrue because you had freely given the information.
Don't blame other people because you are a lying git.
Post reported
Nicko cam on and made his own comments
Irn did look into this as he does everything else, the evidence is there for all to see and that he clearly is obsessd
So stop defending \irn when he blatantly broke the rules
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Irn Bru wrote:Didge, I'll make you an offer that I hope you won't refuse. Stop lying about me and misreprenting me in the way you did to Nicko by stating that I looked up this information about you when you know that isn't true and you will hear no more about this incident from me.
Consider this thread has ran out of steam on that score and there isn't much more to add.
I do not make claims I cannot back up.
You have twice staed you support hams, who are deemed by the EU and the US as terrorist.
They also discriminate, commit war crimes, use human shields and do everything to ensure many OPalestinians die by their actions,
Consider you hsve been warned.
You have been given the opportunity to condemn Hamas and yet still refuse to do so.
So I never lied or misrepresented you.
You did look up information Irn, that is evident all the time anbd even have on record here that you even record things I have said, which backs with evidence your obessions with me.
Its not down to me to do anything, its up to you to move on
Not true Didge. You put that information on here yourself so you lied to Nicko.
I've made you an offer. Do you accept it and move on? You say that's what you want.
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USA
The United States of America is generally very strict with criminal records, no matter how minor or how long ago it has been. They do not have any concept of "spent" or "pardoned" convictions, meaning you must truthfully answer any questions about criminal convictions, even if your convictions have been spent or pardoned in your country. If you are a citizen of a country that participates in the Visa Waiver Program (VWP), any convictions, un-adjudicated arrests, or even a previously refused visa makes you ineligible to travel on the VWP.There are numerous crimes that makes you ineligible to enter the US, including "crimes involving moral turpitude." Moral turpitude is a legal concept in the United States for which the definition can seem imprecise and the list of offences, which can vary somewhat by jurisdiction, can include everything from shoplifting to murder.
If you are convicted of a crime involving moral turpitude, you are ineligible to enter the US and little relief exists for this, except in cases deemed to be "purely political offences" which can be open to interpretation by the immigration officer.
Being convicted of an "aggravated felony" is even worse, though just like crimes involving moral turpitude, these also have a very loose definition, therefore the offences can change over time. However, there is absolutely no relief, and anyone deported or excluded for this reason cannot ever enter the US.
http://wikitravel.org/en/Travelling_with_a_criminal_history
Attempting to enter the US after having been previously deported without a proper visa is a serious felony under US law, and is punishable by up to 20 years in prison. The US conducts extensive security checks on all visa applicants.
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Irn Bru wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
I do not make claims I cannot back up.
You have twice staed you support hams, who are deemed by the EU and the US as terrorist.
They also discriminate, commit war crimes, use human shields and do everything to ensure many OPalestinians die by their actions,
Consider you hsve been warned.
You have been given the opportunity to condemn Hamas and yet still refuse to do so.
So I never lied or misrepresented you.
You did look up information Irn, that is evident all the time anbd even have on record here that you even record things I have said, which backs with evidence your obessions with me.
Its not down to me to do anything, its up to you to move on
Not true Didge. You put that information on here yourself so you lied to Nicko.
I've made you an offer. Do you accept it and move on? You say that's what you want.
Actually its on the famous thread between us that you admit to doing this
I do not need any offers, its up to you to either move on or not.
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lol wiki, which just proves now sassy is obsessed with aspects of my life.
The USA have a visa waiver programme for any person holding passports from certain countries (British passports are included) as long as that person has never been arrested.
If you have been arrested you must declare it whether or not that arrest resulted in conviction. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 does not extend to the USA so you must declare all convictions regardless of whether they are classed as spent or not.
Most minor road traffic offences that were dealt with by way of fixed penalty (i.e. no arrest or court appearance) do not count and you will be eligible to travel under the visa waiver programme.
If you have been arrested/convicted then you must apply for a visa from the US Embassy in London before you travel to the USA. Failure to have a visa means that you could be refused entry and returned home at your own expense. Have a look at the Visa Waiver Wizard (first link in related information) which only takes a minute to complete - it is just a guide for your own information, you do not have to enter personal details.
A conviction could mean that you are classed as permanently ineligible to travel to the USA, however, you may be able to apply for a waiver of permanent ineligibility from the Department of Homeland Security. This is not automatic and depends on several factors depending on the nature of the crime and when it was committed.
If you are unsure it is always better to check as you could be refused entry to the USA. In the current climate, it is highly likely that the USA authorities will be aware of your personal details before you travel to the USA.
Also see the website in related information for more details.
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q683.htm
The USA have a visa waiver programme for any person holding passports from certain countries (British passports are included) as long as that person has never been arrested.
If you have been arrested you must declare it whether or not that arrest resulted in conviction. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 does not extend to the USA so you must declare all convictions regardless of whether they are classed as spent or not.
Most minor road traffic offences that were dealt with by way of fixed penalty (i.e. no arrest or court appearance) do not count and you will be eligible to travel under the visa waiver programme.
If you have been arrested/convicted then you must apply for a visa from the US Embassy in London before you travel to the USA. Failure to have a visa means that you could be refused entry and returned home at your own expense. Have a look at the Visa Waiver Wizard (first link in related information) which only takes a minute to complete - it is just a guide for your own information, you do not have to enter personal details.
A conviction could mean that you are classed as permanently ineligible to travel to the USA, however, you may be able to apply for a waiver of permanent ineligibility from the Department of Homeland Security. This is not automatic and depends on several factors depending on the nature of the crime and when it was committed.
If you are unsure it is always better to check as you could be refused entry to the USA. In the current climate, it is highly likely that the USA authorities will be aware of your personal details before you travel to the USA.
Also see the website in related information for more details.
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q683.htm
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Irn Bru wrote:
Not true Didge. You put that information on here yourself so you lied to Nicko.
I've made you an offer. Do you accept it and move on? You say that's what you want.
Actually its on the famous thread between us that you admit to doing this
I do not need any offers, its up to you to either move on or not.
You are such a bloody liar. YOU TOLD IRN YOU HAD BEEN TO PRISON AND YOU TOLD HIM WHAT FOR, IN FACT YOU APPEARED TO BE PROUD OF IT.
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Irn Bru wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
I do not make claims I cannot back up.
You have twice staed you support hams, who are deemed by the EU and the US as terrorist.
They also discriminate, commit war crimes, use human shields and do everything to ensure many OPalestinians die by their actions,
Consider you hsve been warned.
You have been given the opportunity to condemn Hamas and yet still refuse to do so.
So I never lied or misrepresented you.
You did look up information Irn, that is evident all the time anbd even have on record here that you even record things I have said, which backs with evidence your obessions with me.
Its not down to me to do anything, its up to you to move on
Not true Didge. You put that information on here yourself so you lied to Nicko.
I've made you an offer. Do you accept it and move on? You say that's what you want.
Actually its on the famous thread between us that you admit to doing this
I do not need any offers, its up to you to either move on or not.
Show me this thread. You obviously don't wish to move on obviously by turming down my offer.
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sassy wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Actually its on the famous thread between us that you admit to doing this
I do not need any offers, its up to you to either move on or not.
You are such a bloody liar. YOU TOLD IRN YOU HAD BEEN TO PRISON AND YOU TOLD HIM WHAT FOR, IN FACT YOU APPEARED TO BE PROUD OF IT.
Not lying at all and tomorrow will bring up the post where he does admit this as I posted this up for Rags to see, of which she did.
I am proud of defending my nephew
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:sassy wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Actually its on the famous thread between us that you admit to doing this
I do not need any offers, its up to you to either move on or not.
You are such a bloody liar. YOU TOLD IRN YOU HAD BEEN TO PRISON AND YOU TOLD HIM WHAT FOR, IN FACT YOU APPEARED TO BE PROUD OF IT.
Not lying at all and tomorrow will bring up the post where he does admit this as I posted this up for Rags to see, of which she did.
I am proud of defending my nephew
Good luck with finding it and refusing to move on.
I don't need to keep records of what you have said in the past because all that you have said is recorded on this very site.
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I am happy to move on , where again its you obsessed wanting me to confirm what you said
Your words
You have no main points but even then I answered what you posted for what they were worth it’s just you that can’t accept the truth which led to you ending up frothing at the mouth, slavering and hammering away on a keyboard during a tirade of abuse in the middle of the night – the first resort for someone who’s argument has hit the buffers – classic case really. It was like watching a balloon being blown up and letting it go without tying a knot in the neck and seeing it whizz around the room emitting that ripping blurbing noise hitting off the ceiling and the walls before finally flopping down on the floor deflated. Never laughed so much in awe ma puff so thanks a bundle for that. I’ve even created a file of the worst bit and put it on the internet with the file name ‘Didge goes Daft on Newsfix’ so that it can be used as a reference point on how to spot a RW zealot having a full on blowout.
Here it is: https://i.servimg.com/u/f38/15/81/77/69/didge_10.jpg
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t7599p50-the-secret-plot-by-thatcher-s-tory-government-to-sell-out-the-falkland-s-to-argentina?highlight=thatcher
Your words
You have no main points but even then I answered what you posted for what they were worth it’s just you that can’t accept the truth which led to you ending up frothing at the mouth, slavering and hammering away on a keyboard during a tirade of abuse in the middle of the night – the first resort for someone who’s argument has hit the buffers – classic case really. It was like watching a balloon being blown up and letting it go without tying a knot in the neck and seeing it whizz around the room emitting that ripping blurbing noise hitting off the ceiling and the walls before finally flopping down on the floor deflated. Never laughed so much in awe ma puff so thanks a bundle for that. I’ve even created a file of the worst bit and put it on the internet with the file name ‘Didge goes Daft on Newsfix’ so that it can be used as a reference point on how to spot a RW zealot having a full on blowout.
Here it is: https://i.servimg.com/u/f38/15/81/77/69/didge_10.jpg
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t7599p50-the-secret-plot-by-thatcher-s-tory-government-to-sell-out-the-falkland-s-to-argentina?highlight=thatcher
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Re: Abbas Admits For the First Time That He Turned Down Peace Offer in 2008
That's just showing the world you're a nutter lol
And absolutely nothing to do with the conversation in which you told they board you had gone to prison for assault.
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So after proving Irn did in fact keep a file on me, sassy further tries to incite this situatiin by posting up these very things from the past with the intent to further derail.
Enough is enough with you to as its clear you have no intention to debate and going to have lenghy chat with Ben about this as you are both constnatly turning this into some inane childish vendeatta against me
So I see no apology for wrongly calling me a liar then
Enough is enough with you to as its clear you have no intention to debate and going to have lenghy chat with Ben about this as you are both constnatly turning this into some inane childish vendeatta against me
So I see no apology for wrongly calling me a liar then
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You posted the link you idiot, and that's not keeping files, that's giving out information to warn people lol
You ARE A LIAR, because you deliberately tried to make Nicko believe something that you knew was a lie, to try and discredit Irn, when the truth was you had put the information on.
You can wiggle and squirm as much as you like, that is fact. You are a manipulative lying rat.
You ARE A LIAR, because you deliberately tried to make Nicko believe something that you knew was a lie, to try and discredit Irn, when the truth was you had put the information on.
You can wiggle and squirm as much as you like, that is fact. You are a manipulative lying rat.
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All can see for themselves he did in fact keep a file of things I said
I can happilly except if he had forgotten and he would thus be mistaken
I have reported you both to Ben, as this has just been deliberately derailed by the pair of you to make solely and personally about me.
I can happilly except if he had forgotten and he would thus be mistaken
I have reported you both to Ben, as this has just been deliberately derailed by the pair of you to make solely and personally about me.
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Re: Abbas Admits For the First Time That He Turned Down Peace Offer in 2008
Richard The Lionheart wrote:I am happy to move on , where again its you obsessed wanting me to confirm what you said
Your words
You have no main points but even then I answered what you posted for what they were worth it’s just you that can’t accept the truth which led to you ending up frothing at the mouth, slavering and hammering away on a keyboard during a tirade of abuse in the middle of the night – the first resort for someone who’s argument has hit the buffers – classic case really. It was like watching a balloon being blown up and letting it go without tying a knot in the neck and seeing it whizz around the room emitting that ripping blurbing noise hitting off the ceiling and the walls before finally flopping down on the floor deflated. Never laughed so much in awe ma puff so thanks a bundle for that. I’ve even created a file of the worst bit and put it on the internet with the file name ‘Didge goes Daft on Newsfix’ so that it can be used as a reference point on how to spot a RW zealot having a full on blowout.
Here it is: https://i.servimg.com/u/f38/15/81/77/69/didge_10.jpg
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t7599p50-the-secret-plot-by-thatcher-s-tory-government-to-sell-out-the-falkland-s-to-argentina?highlight=thatcher
All that stuff that you said is recorded on this site. No need for me to keep records of it. Forumotion keep the records. The file is only here lol
That's yoiu stuffed.
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Irn Bru wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:I am happy to move on , where again its you obsessed wanting me to confirm what you said
Your words
You have no main points but even then I answered what you posted for what they were worth it’s just you that can’t accept the truth which led to you ending up frothing at the mouth, slavering and hammering away on a keyboard during a tirade of abuse in the middle of the night – the first resort for someone who’s argument has hit the buffers – classic case really. It was like watching a balloon being blown up and letting it go without tying a knot in the neck and seeing it whizz around the room emitting that ripping blurbing noise hitting off the ceiling and the walls before finally flopping down on the floor deflated. Never laughed so much in awe ma puff so thanks a bundle for that. I’ve even created a file of the worst bit and put it on the internet with the file name ‘Didge goes Daft on Newsfix’ so that it can be used as a reference point on how to spot a RW zealot having a full on blowout.
Here it is: https://i.servimg.com/u/f38/15/81/77/69/didge_10.jpg
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t7599p50-the-secret-plot-by-thatcher-s-tory-government-to-sell-out-the-falkland-s-to-argentina?highlight=thatcher
All that stuff that you said is recorded on this site. No need for me to keep records of it. Forumotion keep the records. The file is only here lol
That's yoiu stuffed.
That is just a feeble excuse Irn, as you still recorded them, which proves obsession of which enough is enough and I have reported you to ben, as you are more intereted in debating my life, of which is not that interesting compared to events around the world.
The pair of you are obsessed with trying toi find the little of things in the childish attempt to constantly try to catch mne out,
Its also very immature and proves also you do so becauyse you fail at the debates.
Now I have no reason to say anymore and will allow Ben to deal with
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sassy wrote:
That's just showing the world you're a nutter lol
And absolutely nothing to do with the conversation in which you told they board you had gone to prison for assault.
Doesn't say anything about hie personal life or looking up anything about him. He should be ashamed to even show that
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:Irn Bru wrote:Richard The Lionheart wrote:I am happy to move on , where again its you obsessed wanting me to confirm what you said
Your words
You have no main points but even then I answered what you posted for what they were worth it’s just you that can’t accept the truth which led to you ending up frothing at the mouth, slavering and hammering away on a keyboard during a tirade of abuse in the middle of the night – the first resort for someone who’s argument has hit the buffers – classic case really. It was like watching a balloon being blown up and letting it go without tying a knot in the neck and seeing it whizz around the room emitting that ripping blurbing noise hitting off the ceiling and the walls before finally flopping down on the floor deflated. Never laughed so much in awe ma puff so thanks a bundle for that. I’ve even created a file of the worst bit and put it on the internet with the file name ‘Didge goes Daft on Newsfix’ so that it can be used as a reference point on how to spot a RW zealot having a full on blowout.
Here it is: https://i.servimg.com/u/f38/15/81/77/69/didge_10.jpg
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t7599p50-the-secret-plot-by-thatcher-s-tory-government-to-sell-out-the-falkland-s-to-argentina?highlight=thatcher
All that stuff that you said is recorded on this site. No need for me to keep records of it. Forumotion keep the records. The file is only here lol
That's yoiu stuffed.
That is just a feeble excuse Irn, as you still recorded them, which proves obsession of which enough is enough and I have reported you to ben, as you are more intereted in debating my life, of which is not that interesting compared to events around the world.
The pair of you are obsessed with trying toi find the little of things in the childish attempt to constantly try to catch mne out,
Its also very immature and proves also you do so becauyse you fail at the debates.
Now I have no reason to say anymore and will allow Ben to deal with
No Didge. That is what you said on here on this very site. Never looked up anything about you.
Go and read what you wrote again -it's a classic blowout
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And he is till continuing this farce, wishing to seek to continue this.
You just got proven that you did in fact record things I said.
You even created a file
That is obsession.
Seriously grow up and move on
You just got proven that you did in fact record things I said.
You even created a file
That is obsession.
Seriously grow up and move on
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Richard The Lionheart wrote:And he is till continuing this farce, wishing to seek to continue this.
You just got proven that you did in fact record things I said.
You even created a file
That is obsession.
Seriously grow up and move on
No Didge. That's what you said on here - these are your words recorded on this very site word for word.
Here is the actual link. Click on it
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t7599-the-secret-plot-by-thatcher-s-tory-government-to-sell-out-the-falkland-s-to-argentina#160341
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It does not matter if they are recorded on the site
I stated quite correctly, that you were recording them and had a file.
Of which is absolutely correct you did.
This is what I said earlier on this thread:
You did look up information Irn, that is evident all the time anbd even have on record here that you even record things I have said, which backs with evidence your obessions with me.
Do I have evidence that you did?
Yes
I’ve even created a file of the worst bit and put it on the internet with the file name ‘Didge goes Daft on Newsfix’ so that it can be used as a reference point on how to spot a RW zealot having a full on blowout.
Like I say its proves you are obsessed and now even worse try to now think because the forum already has things I have said, exciuses you from activelly recording them?
That is just blantantlt absurd.
As I rightly accurd you of recording aspects of what I said and you created a file
You can try to move the goakl posts all you like, but it just proves you are incapble of admitting that you did indeed record.I mean you are still going on about me
Seriously move on, as its very disconcerting the obsession you have with me.
Its very much on the fringe of stalking
I stated quite correctly, that you were recording them and had a file.
Of which is absolutely correct you did.
This is what I said earlier on this thread:
You did look up information Irn, that is evident all the time anbd even have on record here that you even record things I have said, which backs with evidence your obessions with me.
Do I have evidence that you did?
Yes
I’ve even created a file of the worst bit and put it on the internet with the file name ‘Didge goes Daft on Newsfix’ so that it can be used as a reference point on how to spot a RW zealot having a full on blowout.
Like I say its proves you are obsessed and now even worse try to now think because the forum already has things I have said, exciuses you from activelly recording them?
That is just blantantlt absurd.
As I rightly accurd you of recording aspects of what I said and you created a file
You can try to move the goakl posts all you like, but it just proves you are incapble of admitting that you did indeed record.I mean you are still going on about me
Seriously move on, as its very disconcerting the obsession you have with me.
Its very much on the fringe of stalking
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Locking this thread -- let's have no more of this. Please try to stay in the present, folks.
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