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Post by Irn Bru Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:44 pm

Question: What Is the Just-World Phenomenon?

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The just-world phenomenon is a term referring to people's tendency to believe that the world is just and that people get what they deserve. Because people want to believe that the world is fair, they will look for ways to explain or rationalize away injustice - often by blaming the victim.
Those with this belief tend to think that when bad things happen to people, it is because these individuals are bad people or have done something to deserve their misfortune. Conversely, this belief also leads people to think that when good things happen to people it is because those individuals are good and deserving of their happy fortune.

Examples of the Just-World Phenomenon

The classic example of this tendency is found in the Book of Job. In the text, Job suffers a series of terrible calamities and at one point, his former friend suggests that Job must have done something terrible to have deserved his misfortunes.
In one famous study, two stories about an interaction between a man and woman was described to participants. Both stories were identical in every way except for the final outcome. In one version of the story the woman is raped, while in the other version the man proposes marriage. In both versions of the story, participants directly linked the two drastically different outcomes to the woman's actions.


More here...http://psychology.about.com/od/jindex/f/just-world-phenomenon.htm

Just World Phenomenom is the rationale being used by the Tory Party and those that worship at their alter in the way the demonise the poor, the sick and the disabled. Blame them for the misfortune that has befallen them because it's all their fault for not trying a leg to manage to get by. That's the Tory message in that they're just scroungers living off the back of the strivers who have to pay for them and if they say it often enough then it catches on by many of those who still have a job and have been lucky enough to have escaped the worst of their attack on the welfare system that has in the past supported those that have fallen on hard times and who have no need to depend on charity to make ends meet.

That's Just World Phenomenom
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:46 pm

"I'm going to create condescending terms for philosophies I disagree with to feel superior to them."

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:52 pm

Irn Bru wrote:Question: What Is the Just-World Phenomenon?

Answer:

The just-world phenomenon is a term referring to people's tendency to believe that the world is just and that people get what they deserve. Because people want to believe that the world is fair, they will look for ways to explain or rationalize away injustice - often by blaming the victim.
Those with this belief tend to think that when bad things happen to people, it is because these individuals are bad people or have done something to deserve their misfortune. Conversely, this belief also leads people to think that when good things happen to people it is because those individuals are good and deserving of their happy fortune.

Examples of the Just-World Phenomenon

The classic example of this tendency is found in the Book of Job. In the text, Job suffers a series of terrible calamities and at one point, his former friend suggests that Job must have done something terrible to have deserved his misfortunes.
In one famous study, two stories about an interaction between a man and woman was described to participants. Both stories were identical in every way except for the final outcome. In one version of the story the woman is raped, while in the other version the man proposes marriage. In both versions of the story, participants directly linked the two drastically different outcomes to the woman's actions.


More here...http://psychology.about.com/od/jindex/f/just-world-phenomenon.htm

Just World Phenomenom is the rationale being used by the Tory Party and those that worship at their alter in the way the demonise the poor, the sick and the disabled. Blame them for the misfortune that has befallen them because it's all their fault for not trying a leg to manage to get by. That's the Tory message in that they're just scroungers living off the back of the strivers who have to pay for them and if they say it often enough then it catches on by many of those who still have a job and have been lucky enough to have escaped the worst of their attack on the welfare system that has in the past supported those that have fallen on hard times and who have no need to depend on charity to make ends meet.

That's Just World Phenomenom

A bit like saying that people using food banks must be doing it because they can't manage their money!!!!!!  Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Irn Bru Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:19 pm

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Irn Bru wrote:Question: What Is the Just-World Phenomenon?

Answer:

The just-world phenomenon is a term referring to people's tendency to believe that the world is just and that people get what they deserve. Because people want to believe that the world is fair, they will look for ways to explain or rationalize away injustice - often by blaming the victim.
Those with this belief tend to think that when bad things happen to people, it is because these individuals are bad people or have done something to deserve their misfortune. Conversely, this belief also leads people to think that when good things happen to people it is because those individuals are good and deserving of their happy fortune.

Examples of the Just-World Phenomenon

The classic example of this tendency is found in the Book of Job. In the text, Job suffers a series of terrible calamities and at one point, his former friend suggests that Job must have done something terrible to have deserved his misfortunes.
In one famous study, two stories about an interaction between a man and woman was described to participants. Both stories were identical in every way except for the final outcome. In one version of the story the woman is raped, while in the other version the man proposes marriage. In both versions of the story, participants directly linked the two drastically different outcomes to the woman's actions.


More here...http://psychology.about.com/od/jindex/f/just-world-phenomenon.htm

Just World Phenomenom is the rationale being used by the Tory Party and those that worship at their alter in the way the demonise the poor, the sick and the disabled. Blame them for the misfortune that has befallen them because it's all their fault for not trying a leg to manage to get by. That's the Tory message in that they're just scroungers living off the back of the strivers who have to pay for them and if they say it often enough then it catches on by many of those who still have a job and have been lucky enough to have escaped the worst of their attack on the welfare system that has in the past supported those that have fallen on hard times and who have no need to depend on charity to make ends meet.

That's Just World Phenomenom

A bit like saying that people using food banks must be doing it because they can't manage their money!!!!!!  Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes 

It's their own fault - the Tory line.
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:23 pm

Yea, bad people, fancy being hungry. Once again, The Deserving Poor of victorian times is in fashion.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:30 pm

If you see any building plans in Whitehall, look out for the word 'Work House' Lol

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Post by Irn Bru Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:35 pm

One of the few Tory policies that have actually worked.

Blame the poor.
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:42 pm

Irn Bru wrote:One of the few Tory policies that have actually worked.

Blame the poor.

Yea, and boy is it ever going to be their epitaph!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:44 pm

Keep blaming the poor and they will give you the biggest kick in the teeth you have ever had.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:16 pm

Sassy wrote:Keep blaming the poor and they will give you the biggest kick in the teeth you have ever had.

...A couple of years?  :\\:[: ...The arrears are mounting for poor people living in council and housing association properties...There will have to be mass evictions before too long and imo that is when the troubles will start..Just a matter of time.  Sad 

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:24 pm

....The next Labour government will have the work on their hands to prevent mass disturbances..If mass disturbances don't happen before then.

I would suggest that emergency tax measures are brought in so that the rich pay their fair share, all arrears due to the bedroom tax to be wiped clean (frozen) and then abolish that in parliamentary time.

Raise more money from a fast track introduction of a mansion tax.

Fast track a tax on bankers bonuses.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:35 pm

Ban zero hours contracts.

Bring in a living wage, if small businesses can't afford to provide a livable wage then they shouldn't be in business at all.

My brother and i will be starting a small business next year, when we have sold our mothers property.

My ethos will always be to provide a livable wage for employees that we will be taking on over time, neither my brother nor i are greedy.

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Post by Guest Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:43 pm

Property redevelopment is quite lucrative, and having a bank manager brother...We will not only have the capital but also the expertise to make things work.

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Post by Ben Reilly Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:13 am

Yep, it's one of the leading justifiers of conservative politics -- everything bad happening to someone is their own fault, they're a bad person. Like we could all be millionaires if we just worked as hard as millionaires do -- sure, the only barrier to becoming a millionaire is your own laziness.
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Post by Cantankerous Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:47 am

Irn Bru wrote:One of the few Tory policies that have actually worked.

Blame the poor.
when we all know where the real blame lies.
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Post by Cantankerous Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:48 am

Catman wrote:
Sassy wrote:Keep blaming the poor and they will give you the biggest kick in the teeth you have ever had.

...A couple of years?  :\\:[: ...The arrears are mounting for poor people living in council and housing association properties...There will have to be mass evictions before too long and imo that is when the troubles will start..Just a matter of time.  Sad 
gosh is arrears in council properties a phenomenon that only started in 2010.
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Post by Cantankerous Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:49 am

Catman wrote:....The next Labour government will have the work on their hands to prevent mass disturbances..If mass disturbances don't happen before then.

I would suggest that emergency tax measures are brought in so that the rich pay their fair share, all arrears due to the bedroom tax to be wiped clean (frozen) and then abolish that in parliamentary time.

Raise more money from a fast track introduction of a mansion tax.

Fast track a tax on bankers bonuses.
you mean the 30% of income tax the top 1% pay already is not enough?
Lets just drive them all away dirty rich pigs.
but who has to take up that slack then?
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Post by Irn Bru Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:52 am

Cantankerous wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:One of the few Tory policies that have actually worked.

Blame the poor.
when we all know where the real blame lies.

So who's to blame for blaming the poor?
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Post by veya_victaous Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:52 am

@Cantank

WTF only 30% , no wonder UK is fucked tax them properly, I pay 30% and I'm only earning a little above average.
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Post by Cantankerous Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:54 am

Catman wrote:Ban zero hours contracts.

Bring in a living wage, if small businesses can't afford to provide a livable wage then they shouldn't be in business at all.

My brother and i will be starting a small business next year, when we have sold our mothers property.

My ethos will always be to provide a livable wage for employees that we will be taking on over time, neither my brother nor i are greedy.
a living wage is just a nonsense term coined by politicians to make them selves sound caring.
when a "living " wage of £8 an hour is brought in, don't you think all those people who were on £8 an hour already will want a pay rise because they may feel they deserve more than someone who sweeps the streets or who works in a fast food restaurant on minimum wage. And then the people on wages above them will want rises and so on all the way up the chain. and the people at the bottom will still be at the bottom and prices will rise and they will be joined by even more people who still can't make ends meet because the firms they were working for went bust.

You don't improve the standard of living by driving the cost of living up.
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Post by Cantankerous Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:56 am

Irn Bru wrote:
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when we all know where the real blame lies.

So who's to blame for blaming the poor?
the previous government for wrecking the economy.
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Post by Cantankerous Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:57 am

veya_victaous wrote:@Cantank

WTF only 30% , no wonder UK is fucked tax them properly, I pay 30% and I'm only earning a little above average.
no they are not taxed at 30% the top 1% pay 30% of all the income tax take the government receives.

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Post by Irn Bru Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:58 am

Cantankerous wrote:
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So who's to blame for blaming the poor?
the previous government for wrecking the economy.

But the previous government are not blaming the poor.
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Post by veya_victaous Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:03 am

Cantankerous wrote:
Catman wrote:Ban zero hours contracts.

Bring in a living wage, if small businesses can't afford to provide a livable wage then they shouldn't be in business at all.

My brother and i will be starting a small business next year, when we have sold our mothers property.

My ethos will always be to provide a livable wage for employees that we will be taking on over time, neither my brother nor i are greedy.
a living wage is just a nonsense term coined by politicians to make them selves sound caring.
when a "living " wage of £8 an hour is brought in, don't you think all those people who were on £8 an hour already will want a pay rise because they may feel they deserve more than someone who sweeps the streets or who works in a  fast food restaurant on minimum wage. And then the people on wages above them will want rises and so on all the way up the chain.  and the people at the bottom will still be at the bottom and prices will rise and they will be joined by even more people who still can't make ends meet because the firms they were working for went bust.

You don't improve the standard of living by driving the cost of living up.

that is a compelete Fallacy, most workers deserve more. Investor exepect too high return on the thier investment. they only have the money to invest because of society so they can pay to keep the society that has given them so much running.

Higher minimum wages protect against recession. Forcing the tax burden onto the wealthy also helps. Just tax 'billionaire' all she is worth, problem solved.
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Post by veya_victaous Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:09 am

The proportion paid by the top one per cent of earners has risen steadily, hitting 25 per cent in at the time of the 2010 election and 27 per cent last year.


Figures: Tory MP Harriet Baldwin said the breakdown of income tax paid destroyed the Labour myth of millionaire tax cuts

This year the richest 0.1 per cent will pay 14.1 per cent of all income tax, and the mega-rich earning more than £1million will contribute almost 12 per cent.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451686/Top-1-earners-pay-THIRD-income-tax-year.html#ixzz2nsXp3DXS
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Post by veya_victaous Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:11 am

@Cantank
u got a point even some of the top 1% are getting ripped off too.
Seems only the top 0.1% are to blame.
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