Saudi Arabia: Eight of the 12 surviving sons of country's monarch support move to oust King Salman
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Saudi Arabia: Eight of the 12 surviving sons of country's monarch support move to oust King Salman
Eight of the 12 surviving sons of Saudi Arabia’s founding monarch are supporting a move to oust King Salman, 79, the country’s ailing ruler, and replace him with his 73-year-old brother, according to a dissident prince.
The prince also claims that a clear majority of the country’s powerful Islamic clerics, known as the Ulama, would back a palace coup to oust the current King and install Prince Ahmed bin Abdulaziz, a former Interior Minister, in his place. “The Ulama and religious people prefer Prince Ahmed – not all of them, but 75 per cent,” said the prince, himself a grandson of King Ibn Saud, who founded the ruling dynasty in 1932.
Support from the clerics would be vital for any change of monarch, since in the Saudi system only they have the power to confer religious and therefore political legitimacy on the leadership.
The revelation suggests there is increasing pressure within the normally secretive Saudi royal family to bring to a head the internal power struggle that has erupted since King Salman inherited the throne at the beginning of this year. The prince, who cannot be named for security reasons, is the author of two recently published letters calling for the royal family to replace the current Saudi leadership.
In 1964 King Saud was finally deposed after a long power struggle, when the majority of senior royal family members and the Kingdom’s religious establishment spoke with one voice and withdrew their support. The prince says something similar is going to happen again soon.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-power-struggle-between-king-salman-and-mohammed-bin-salman-could-bring-down-the-a6706801.html
The prince also claims that a clear majority of the country’s powerful Islamic clerics, known as the Ulama, would back a palace coup to oust the current King and install Prince Ahmed bin Abdulaziz, a former Interior Minister, in his place. “The Ulama and religious people prefer Prince Ahmed – not all of them, but 75 per cent,” said the prince, himself a grandson of King Ibn Saud, who founded the ruling dynasty in 1932.
Support from the clerics would be vital for any change of monarch, since in the Saudi system only they have the power to confer religious and therefore political legitimacy on the leadership.
The revelation suggests there is increasing pressure within the normally secretive Saudi royal family to bring to a head the internal power struggle that has erupted since King Salman inherited the throne at the beginning of this year. The prince, who cannot be named for security reasons, is the author of two recently published letters calling for the royal family to replace the current Saudi leadership.
In 1964 King Saud was finally deposed after a long power struggle, when the majority of senior royal family members and the Kingdom’s religious establishment spoke with one voice and withdrew their support. The prince says something similar is going to happen again soon.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-power-struggle-between-king-salman-and-mohammed-bin-salman-could-bring-down-the-a6706801.html
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Interesting family...
The Al Saud (the Saudi royal family) emerged as minor tribal rulers in Najd in central Arabia. From the mid-18th century,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Saudi_Arabia
The Al Saud (the Saudi royal family) emerged as minor tribal rulers in Najd in central Arabia. From the mid-18th century,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Saudi_Arabia
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captainJane wrote:Interesting family...
The Al Saud (the Saudi royal family) emerged as minor tribal rulers in Najd in central Arabia. From the mid-18th century,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Saudi_Arabia
It would be interesting to know why they want to replace Salman; he's been something of a reformer in that backward country ...
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Why do you keep putting that picture up?
I notice you have an Irish surname.
I notice you have an Irish surname.
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He doesn't keep 'putting it up', he's obviously using it as his signature.
“Either the King will leave Saudi Arabia, like King Saud, and he will be very respected inside and outside the country,” he told The Independent. “Alternatively Prince Ahmed will become Crown Prince, but with control of and responsibility for the whole country – the economy, oil, armed forces, national guard, interior ministry, secret service, in fact everything from A to Z.”
Unhappiness at King Salman’s own diminishing faculties – he is reported to be suffering from Alzheimer’s disease – has been compounded by his controversial appointments, the continuing and costly war in Yemen and the recent Hajj disaster. Earlier this week the International Monetary Fund warned that Saudi Arabia may run out of financial assets within five years unless the government sharply curbs its spending, because of a combination of low oil prices and the economic impact of regional wars.
The King’s appointment of his favourite son, Mohammed bin Salman, 30, to the novel post of Deputy Crown Prince in April, and the decision to make him Defence Minister – enabling him to launch a proxy war in Yemen against the Iranian-backed Houthi rebels who forced the pro-Saudi former President to flee – have heightened tensions. He is said to have assumed too much power and wealth since being elevated to this position. “Any paper or phone call to his father goes through him,” said the prince. The current Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Nayef, 56, a nephew of King Salman, is also unpopular.
Prince Ahmed, the man most family members support to take over the throne, is the youngest son of the Kingdom’s founder by his favourite wife, Hassa bint Ahmed Al Sudairi. He was deputy interior minister for 37 years and spent four years responsible for the religious sites in Mecca before being appointed Interior Minister in 2012.
He left the post five months later, officially at his own request, and was replaced by Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, now the Crown Prince. The dissident prince claims Prince Ahmed left after a disagreement about the treatment of political detainees.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-power-struggle-between-king-salman-and-mohammed-bin-salman-could-bring-down-the-a6706801.html
Saudi will never go forward all the time it is run by one family The men of the family have been in charge forever and that's the real problem, it's a patriarchy, run for men, by men, which brings out the worst in them.
“Either the King will leave Saudi Arabia, like King Saud, and he will be very respected inside and outside the country,” he told The Independent. “Alternatively Prince Ahmed will become Crown Prince, but with control of and responsibility for the whole country – the economy, oil, armed forces, national guard, interior ministry, secret service, in fact everything from A to Z.”
Unhappiness at King Salman’s own diminishing faculties – he is reported to be suffering from Alzheimer’s disease – has been compounded by his controversial appointments, the continuing and costly war in Yemen and the recent Hajj disaster. Earlier this week the International Monetary Fund warned that Saudi Arabia may run out of financial assets within five years unless the government sharply curbs its spending, because of a combination of low oil prices and the economic impact of regional wars.
The King’s appointment of his favourite son, Mohammed bin Salman, 30, to the novel post of Deputy Crown Prince in April, and the decision to make him Defence Minister – enabling him to launch a proxy war in Yemen against the Iranian-backed Houthi rebels who forced the pro-Saudi former President to flee – have heightened tensions. He is said to have assumed too much power and wealth since being elevated to this position. “Any paper or phone call to his father goes through him,” said the prince. The current Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Nayef, 56, a nephew of King Salman, is also unpopular.
Prince Ahmed, the man most family members support to take over the throne, is the youngest son of the Kingdom’s founder by his favourite wife, Hassa bint Ahmed Al Sudairi. He was deputy interior minister for 37 years and spent four years responsible for the religious sites in Mecca before being appointed Interior Minister in 2012.
He left the post five months later, officially at his own request, and was replaced by Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, now the Crown Prince. The dissident prince claims Prince Ahmed left after a disagreement about the treatment of political detainees.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-power-struggle-between-king-salman-and-mohammed-bin-salman-could-bring-down-the-a6706801.html
Saudi will never go forward all the time it is run by one family The men of the family have been in charge forever and that's the real problem, it's a patriarchy, run for men, by men, which brings out the worst in them.
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HE doen't keep putting it up, why has he put up an I.R.A. video in the first place?
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Deafening silence from the I.R.A. supporter!
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Yet again, he's using it as his signature, you do know what one of those is? Same as I use the UN picture as one.
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I know what a sig' is, why would he keep using it when he knows MOST of true Brits find it abhorrent?
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captainJane wrote:Interesting family...
The Al Saud (the Saudi royal family) emerged as minor tribal rulers in Najd in central Arabia. From the mid-18th century,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Saudi_Arabia
Bunch of traitors.
Scum the lot of them.
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SEXY MAMA wrote:captainJane wrote:Interesting family...
The Al Saud (the Saudi royal family) emerged as minor tribal rulers in Najd in central Arabia. From the mid-18th century,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Saudi_Arabia
Bunch of traitors.
Scum the lot of them.
Give the power to the women, that'll sort the bastards out! lol
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sassy wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Bunch of traitors.
Scum the lot of them.
Give the power to the women, that'll sort the bastards out! lol
Yup
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If Moses had turned left when he crossed the red sea instead of right, the Jews would have had the oil, and the Arabs would have had the Oranges!!
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sassy wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Bunch of traitors.
Scum the lot of them.
Give the power to the women, that'll sort the bastards out! lol
It is claimed that this old timer has been spending too much on attacking Yemen. What with their loss on oil they must all be feeling the pinch.
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captainJane wrote:sassy wrote:
Give the power to the women, that'll sort the bastards out! lol
It is claimed that this old timer has been spending too much on attacking Yemen. What with their loss on oil they must all be feeling the pinch.
Talking about them being bankrupt by 2020. What they are doing to Yemem is terrible, but won't carry on about that here, too complicated. And still the UK government sucks up to them, makes me sick.
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There are some real low lives in UK, making out they are decent while doing things most of us would not even think of. Always saw this in places like Saudi, but never expected such blatant corruption here. I don't know why it took such a long time to see it.
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These posh gansters make crime watch look very tame indeed.
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