Republican Party Over?
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Republican Party Over?
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The end of the Republican Party came today with the refusal of Rep. Kevin McCarthy to accept the second highest office in the United States, that of Speaker of the House. Mr. McCarthy, current House Majority Leader, admitted at a party function this afternoon that he was withdrawing his name because he could not get the votes.
Next to the President, the Speaker position is the second most powerful position in Washington DC. It is akin to the Prime Minister in Britain, save that the UK does not have a President who shoulders the administrative tasks.
The fact that Mr. McCarthy cannot field the necessary votes is a signal that the Republican Party is cracked. A vote comes up on December 11th whether to lift the debt ceiling of the United States. If that vote does not pass, the United States cannot pass its budget and it shuts down and its employees start looking for jobs elsewhere. The debt ceiling issue is the one that broke the Republican back. It has caused John Boehner to resign as Speaker, and now McCarthy's withdrawal.
The inability of the party to come together on the minimal issue of its leadership means that the Republican Party is no longer a symbol--a flag--that House Members can rally around. None of the conservative members are electable, and alternatively, conservatives will stop the election of anyone else. A frozen Majority Party means that either the country shuts down, or another party steps in. Non-conservative factions of the once monolithic Republican Party must seek a coalition with Democrats, which means that the Republican entity crumbles.
Mr. McCarthy was probably the most vanilla of candidates for the Speaker position. If he is unable to muster a coalition, the Republican Party is permanently broken. Whether the US goes to a three-party system remains to be seen; however the Republican brand, born in Ripon WI, in 1854, will be gone. Replacing it will be the Democrats, the Moderate Republicans and the Conservative Republicans. Of course, the Democrats--already having superior numbers over the whole Republican Party--will overwhelm the remain splinters of the Republicans.
Looming is the pending government shutdown in December. Stay tuned.
The end of the Republican Party came today with the refusal of Rep. Kevin McCarthy to accept the second highest office in the United States, that of Speaker of the House. Mr. McCarthy, current House Majority Leader, admitted at a party function this afternoon that he was withdrawing his name because he could not get the votes.
Next to the President, the Speaker position is the second most powerful position in Washington DC. It is akin to the Prime Minister in Britain, save that the UK does not have a President who shoulders the administrative tasks.
The fact that Mr. McCarthy cannot field the necessary votes is a signal that the Republican Party is cracked. A vote comes up on December 11th whether to lift the debt ceiling of the United States. If that vote does not pass, the United States cannot pass its budget and it shuts down and its employees start looking for jobs elsewhere. The debt ceiling issue is the one that broke the Republican back. It has caused John Boehner to resign as Speaker, and now McCarthy's withdrawal.
The inability of the party to come together on the minimal issue of its leadership means that the Republican Party is no longer a symbol--a flag--that House Members can rally around. None of the conservative members are electable, and alternatively, conservatives will stop the election of anyone else. A frozen Majority Party means that either the country shuts down, or another party steps in. Non-conservative factions of the once monolithic Republican Party must seek a coalition with Democrats, which means that the Republican entity crumbles.
Mr. McCarthy was probably the most vanilla of candidates for the Speaker position. If he is unable to muster a coalition, the Republican Party is permanently broken. Whether the US goes to a three-party system remains to be seen; however the Republican brand, born in Ripon WI, in 1854, will be gone. Replacing it will be the Democrats, the Moderate Republicans and the Conservative Republicans. Of course, the Democrats--already having superior numbers over the whole Republican Party--will overwhelm the remain splinters of the Republicans.
Looming is the pending government shutdown in December. Stay tuned.
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Fook it man...as a Democrat I am delighted. Trump's numbers translate to about 8% of the electorate when you factor in all voters, including Democrats, in a general election. Republicans amount to only 28% of the total electorate, and Trump can only get 30% of those.
It will be fun watching his might-8 in action.
It will be fun watching his might-8 in action.
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I found this post on FB and had to share it. It is spot on: "Trickle down [economics] used to be called horse and sparrow, which is more appropriate. If you give the horse enough oats, a few might end up in its crap for the sparrow to get a little bit."
There you have the Republican philosophy in a nut shell.
There you have the Republican philosophy in a nut shell.
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TRUMP'S polling only 30% among registered Repub's !?!
THAT'S down from 41% in January !
AT THIS rate, he will be down to single figures by November..
AND probably less than 3 or 4% of the actual votes come election day ?
(Next, I await with bated breath as Indy, eddie and Dodgery attempt to rewrite history, and claim that Trump is actually leading the field -- and how dear old Donnie only appears to be trailing because he's lapped the rest of the bunch and is actually catching up ! ).
THE GOP is going to have a lot of rebuilding and plenty of time for introspection, come their November bloodbath...
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No, it's me...agreeing with you, Bee. It has been difficult sitting on my hands and watching, hearing all the pundits speak of how Trump is sweeping it in...what? Sweeping what in? They are watching a football game that is being plaid on less than 30% of the field.
The game will be played a lot differently when they get on the big field. In the meantime, for pundits to admit that it's the amateur, or warm-up game, is for them to admit they are working in the junior leagues. They don't want to admit that. So the game goes on.
The game will be played a lot differently when they get on the big field. In the meantime, for pundits to admit that it's the amateur, or warm-up game, is for them to admit they are working in the junior leagues. They don't want to admit that. So the game goes on.
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