Germany in state of siege!!!

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:deceiving twats

Original Quill wrote:

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:deceiving twats

Why do you hate them?

eddie wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Why do you hate them?

Perhaps because they're posing as refugees and spoiling it for the genuine ones?

Original Quill wrote:

eddie wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Why do you hate them?

Perhaps because they're posing as refugees and spoiling it for the genuine ones?

But they are refugees.  Who are the "genuine ones"?

Tommy Monk wrote:Of course people are using the guise of refugee status to get into countries they want to be in!!!


This has been increasingly happening for years and years!!!



It is a loophole that needs closing quickly before we have a flow of millions starting to arrive with the same plans to exploit our good nature for their own gains!!!

nicko wrote:Sometimes Quill you do talk bollocks.

smelly-bandit wrote:German nurse shocked after being forced out of flat to make way for refugees

Having lived in the same flat for 16 years, a German woman is being forced to move out to make way for refugees, because building a new shelter is too expensive. The 51 year-old nurse, who has helped asylum seekers in the past, was shocked by the news.

Bettina Halbey, who lives alone in the small town of Nieheim, received a letter from her landlord and the local municipality at the start of September, Die Welt newspaper reported on Thursday.

“I was completely shocked and I can’t even begin to find the words to describe how the city has treated me,” Halbey told the German publication. “I have had to go through a lot of difficulties recently, and then I get this notice. It was like a kick in the teeth.”

http://www.rt.com/news/316568-germany-nurse-eviction-refugees/

Tommy Monk wrote:Well they have to get the empty homes somehow... they can't just magic hundreds of thousands of empty homes out of thin air, so it will be done by forcing others out of THEIR homes!

Tommy Monk wrote:Then the lefties will just start blaming people angry at being forced out of their homes to house immigrants, as 'far right' and racists...

nicko wrote:Quill,  you know what I mean,   you just like to wind posters up.   you know you do it on purpose.  Try being a bit more subtle,   your wind ups are too much "in your face" I,ve decided not to take offence.     You love me really don,t you?

Nems wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:German nurse shocked after being forced out of flat to make way for refugees

Having lived in the same flat for 16 years, a German woman is being forced to move out to make way for refugees, because building a new shelter is too expensive. The 51 year-old nurse, who has helped asylum seekers in the past, was shocked by the news.

Bettina Halbey, who lives alone in the small town of Nieheim, received a letter from her landlord and the local municipality at the start of September, Die Welt newspaper reported on Thursday.

“I was completely shocked and I can’t even begin to find the words to describe how the city has treated me,” Halbey told the German publication. “I have had to go through a lot of difficulties recently, and then I get this notice. It was like a kick in the teeth.”

http://www.rt.com/news/316568-germany-nurse-eviction-refugees/

Is she the only one there or something? They can't just turf her out!
This sort of crap is just going to make for tensions in areas where migrants are settled.

Original Quill wrote:

Nems wrote:

Is she the only one there or something? They can't just turf her out!
This sort of crap is just going to make for tensions in areas where migrants are settled.

Hi Nems,

Mind if I borrow your question to make a point?  

As the article makes clear, this is classical capitalism at work.  You are right, they selected some prototypical victim to spin the story.  Indeed, there are others, but her presence paints the best picture.  Conservatives and Republicans are labelers, not thinkers.  They would much rather serve up tricks, than truth.

What the mayor says in substance is: “A new residential unit for 30 refugees in Nieheim would cost €30,000 ($33,600). This solution will cost me nothing,” he told Die Welt.

Capitalism is about profit.  Whenever you see an economic decision that doesn't make sense, look inside for the capitalistic motive mucking things up.  Capitalism contains profit, a huge, hidden burden on any enterprise.  Cost-cutting is the adverse of actually caring about people; people cost money, so cutting costs is cutting humanity.  It is the sacrificing of humans on the alter of profits, which are preserved.  

What Mayor Rainer Vidal is doing is donning the capitalistic cap of cost-consciousness, or profits, rather than that of genuine concern for refugees or, indeed, Nurse Halbey.  He could of course spend the money that would house the refugees and keep Nurse Halbey in her place...but that would cut down on profit.

Shady wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Hi Nems,

Mind if I borrow your question to make a point?  

As the article makes clear, this is classical capitalism at work.  You are right, they selected some prototypical victim to spin the story.  Indeed, there are others, but her presence paints the best picture.  Conservatives and Republicans are labelers, not thinkers.  They would much rather serve up tricks, than truth.

What the mayor says in substance is: “A new residential unit for 30 refugees in Nieheim would cost €30,000 ($33,600). This solution will cost me nothing,” he told Die Welt.

Capitalism is about profit.  Whenever you see an economic decision that doesn't make sense, look inside for the capitalistic motive mucking things up.  Capitalism contains profit, a huge, hidden burden on any enterprise.  Cost-cutting is the adverse of actually caring about people; people cost money, so cutting costs is cutting humanity.  It is the sacrificing of humans on the alter of profits, which are preserved.  

What Mayor Rainer Vidal is doing is donning the capitalistic cap of cost-consciousness, or profits, rather than that of genuine concern for refugees or, indeed, Nurse Halbey.  He could of course spend the money that would house the refugees and keep Nurse Halbey in her place...but that would cut down on profit.

Quill what's your monthly income after tax? Mine is about £3000.

smelly-bandit wrote:German nurse shocked after being forced out of flat to make way for refugees

Having lived in the same flat for 16 years, a German woman is being forced to move out to make way for refugees, because building a new shelter is too expensive. The 51 year-old nurse, who has helped asylum seekers in the past, was shocked by the news.

Bettina Halbey, who lives alone in the small town of Nieheim, received a letter from her landlord and the local municipality at the start of September, Die Welt newspaper reported on Thursday.

“I was completely shocked and I can’t even begin to find the words to describe how the city has treated me,” Halbey told the German publication. “I have had to go through a lot of difficulties recently, and then I get this notice. It was like a kick in the teeth.”

http://www.rt.com/news/316568-germany-nurse-eviction-refugees/

Original Quill wrote:Shady, I am the sole proprietor of a law firm in the financial capital of the western US.  What do you think?

I don't discuss things like personal finances, not only because it is dangerous, but because I consider it to be in poor taste.

However, as regards motivation, I can say I value ideas much more than possessions.  Oh, there are periods when I value my things, but that is nothing like the passion of a great idea...a good book...or a legal brief I'm writing that really works.

Shady wrote:

Original Quill wrote:Shady, I am the sole proprietor of a law firm in the financial capital of the western US.  What do you think?

I don't discuss things like personal finances, not only because it is dangerous, but because I consider it to be in poor taste.

However, as regards motivation, I can say I value ideas much more than possessions.  Oh, there are periods when I value my things, but that is nothing like the passion of a great idea...a good book...or a legal brief I'm writing that really works.

Sorry about the delay in replying but she who must be obeyed called me for dinner.Very excellent pork chops I must say.

Too good for a poorly paid pirate like me........A poorly paid pirate who has helped a lot of Muslims just recently.

But my good deeds are besides the point.

Cuchulain wrote:

Shady wrote:

Sorry about the delay in replying but she who must be obeyed called me for dinner.Very excellent pork chops I must say.

Too good for a poorly paid pirate like me........A poorly paid pirate who has helped a lot of Muslims just recently.

But my good deeds are besides the point.

Shady wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Dear Didge.

This is the second post of yours that I have read since coming back.And like the first,it is irrelevant rubbish.

I hope you get over your loss soon.

Regards,Shady.

Cuchulain wrote:

Shady wrote:

Dear Didge.

This is the second post of yours that I have read since coming back.And like the first,it is irrelevant rubbish.

I hope you get over your loss soon.

Regards,Shady.

Dear Shady

Thank you for your reply.
I feel it was very emotive because as seen you clearly did try to play the victim.
I am sorry if I have had to point this out and end up at the same time making you look silly
My humblest apologies.
Please forgive me showing you up as a twit.

Shady wrote:

Original Quill wrote:Shady, I am the sole proprietor of a law firm in the financial capital of the western US.  What do you think?

I don't discuss things like personal finances, not only because it is dangerous, but because I consider it to be in poor taste.

However, as regards motivation, I can say I value ideas much more than possessions.  Oh, there are periods when I value my things, but that is nothing like the passion of a great idea...a good book...or a legal brief I'm writing that really works.

Sorry about the delay in replying but she who must be obeyed called me for dinner.Very excellent pork chops I must say.

Too good for a poorly paid pirate like me........A poorly paid pirate who has helped a lot of Muslims just recently.

But my good deeds are besides the point.

Your reply was virtually what I expected it to be......a load of bluff & bollocks but if you are what you say you are,& I have reason to doubt what you say.Then you are earning a whole lot more than my poxy  3 grand per month.

Which means that you've done very well out of capitalism...............yes?

That's the capitalism that you despise...........yes?

What kind of & how many cars do you have in your household? Or should I say automobiles?

Shady wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Dear Shady

Thank you for your reply.
I feel it was very emotive because as seen you clearly did try to play the victim.
I am sorry if I have had to point this out and end up at the same time making you look silly
My humblest apologies.
Please forgive me showing you up as a twit.

There you go again Didge....always point scoring & trying to get one up on other posters.....Pity.

And with that Didge my boy.....four of your posts are enough for a young pirate like me......Boring is your middle name.

Placed back on ignore.Ta Ta.

Original Quill wrote:

Shady wrote:

Sorry about the delay in replying but she who must be obeyed called me for dinner.Very excellent pork chops I must say.

Too good for a poorly paid pirate like me........A poorly paid pirate who has helped a lot of Muslims just recently.

But my good deeds are besides the point.

Your reply was virtually what I expected it to be......a load of bluff & bollocks but if you are what you say you are,& I have reason to doubt what you say.Then you are earning a whole lot more than my poxy  3 grand per month.

Which means that you've done very well out of capitalism...............yes?

That's the capitalism that you despise...........yes?

What kind of & how many cars do you have in your household? Or should I say automobiles?

Out of the capitalism I would change.  For example, it is reprehensible that the most powerful nation on earth cannot produce healthcare for it's people.  It provides, on a socialist basis, police care, fire care and the most powerful military, but it cannot provide for a simple aspirin for a child.  In other words it provides amenities for the property class, but nothing for the care of the body.  Obviously this doesn't affect you because y'all have NHS; but it indicative of where the capitalistic society ends up if left to its own devices.

In truth, capitalism is in competition with democracy.  We see these little sores develop on the dermis of our nation now and again: gerrymandering, voter suppression, litmus tests for voting, etc.  These are filtration systems put into place to keep out the poor or disinfranchised, but never the wealthy.

While capitalism was devised with leveling presumptions, history has shown that it is an elitist, patrician manner of organizing society.  So far from generating homogeneity, as it was supposed to do, the very freedom it promotes leads to the pocketing of power and economic influence, which is then used to defeat freedom.  I'm speaking of monopoly, of course.

What is ironic is that capitalism is often pitted against socialism, when in fact they both seek the same thing...power and control in the hands of politics.  That is what the Koch Brothers desire, every bit as much Marx or Engels.   The only difference is, who then controls the levers of power?  The few, or the many?  The reason why socialism is aligned with progressivism is that it promotes the well-being of the many over that of the few.  Along the continuum of democratic self-determination, that is seen as progress.

Shady wrote:

Original Quill wrote:Shady, I am the sole proprietor of a law firm in the financial capital of the western US.  What do you think?

I don't discuss things like personal finances, not only because it is dangerous, but because I consider it to be in poor taste.

However, as regards motivation, I can say I value ideas much more than possessions.  Oh, there are periods when I value my things, but that is nothing like the passion of a great idea...a good book...or a legal brief I'm writing that really works.

Sorry about the delay in replying but she who must be obeyed called me for dinner.Very excellent pork chops I must say.

Too good for a poorly paid pirate like me........A poorly paid pirate who has helped a lot of Muslims just recently.

But my good deeds are besides the point.

Your reply was virtually what I expected it to be......a load of bluff & bollocks but if you are what you say you are,& I have reason to doubt what you say.Then you are earning a whole lot more than my poxy  3 grand per month.

Which means that you've done very well out of capitalism...............yes?

That's the capitalism that you despise...........yes?

What kind of & how many cars do you have in your household? Or should I say automobiles?

Tommy Monk wrote:

Shady wrote:

Sorry about the delay in replying but she who must be obeyed called me for dinner.Very excellent pork chops I must say.

Too good for a poorly paid pirate like me........A poorly paid pirate who has helped a lot of Muslims just recently.

But my good deeds are besides the point.

Your reply was virtually what I expected it to be......a load of bluff & bollocks but if you are what you say you are,& I have reason to doubt what you say.Then you are earning a whole lot more than my poxy  3 grand per month.

Which means that you've done very well out of capitalism...............yes?

That's the capitalism that you despise...........yes?

What kind of & how many cars do you have in your household? Or should I say automobiles?

Tommy Monk wrote:The hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds...

Shady wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

Tommy,don't we know he ain't going to give me a straight answer.No doubt our Quill has done very well out of the capitalism that he denigrates & if he is a lawyer of some sort then I'll bet my bottom dollar/quid that he has worked a few tax fiddles along the way.

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HA HAR HAR!!

As a fully fledged pirate,I love a bit of skulduggery but I don't think much of Quills holier than thou attitude when he is the perfect example of successful capitalism.  

victorismyhero wrote:well, as didge says she will have to adapt...after all she doesnt count the filthy privilidged native...