Islamic State Extremists Exploit Refugee Flow

Western governments have long feared the possibility of Islamic State militants quietly slipping across their countries' borders. Now, amid the worst refugee crisis in decades, it seems this might have actually happened. How? ISIS loyalists have reportedly infiltrated the human tide of refugees flowing into Europe.

Opportunistic smugglers have reportedly helped small groups of ISIS fighters travel from southern Turkey into Europe, hidden in cargo ships filled with hundreds of refugees, according to an ISIS operative and several smugglers quoted by BuzzFeed Monday. The ISIS operative claimed some 4,000 fighters are already waiting in Europe, intent on fulfilling ISIS's repeated threats to stage attacks around the globe.  He said such attacks would be in retaliation for U.S.-led airstrikes against the group in Iraq and Syria.

“Just wait,” he told BuzzFeed

undreds of thousands of refugees fleeing war in Syria have decided in recent months to make their way to Europe, where there is more economic opportunity than in Turkey -- more than a million Syrians have taken refuge in Turkey. Last week, a picture of Syrian toddler Aylan Kurdi, whose body washed ashore on Turkey’s southern resort coast after drowning during a dangerous boat journey in an inflatable dinghy, raised awareness of the refugees' plight. The incident has ignited international concern over the refugee crisis wrought by years of conflict in Syria. It is in that tide of desperate refugees that more ISIS fighters have been able to quietly slip into Europe, according to individuals quoted by BuzzFeed.

“I’m sending some fighters who want to go and visit their families,” a smuggler, who said he’s been helping militants cross for months, said. “Others just go to Europe to be ready.”

The smuggler said while some fighters were from Syria, many also hailed from elsewhere around the Middle East, and even Europe or the U.S. Once they cross the porous Turkish border from Syria, the smuggler puts fighters up in hotels and waits for a passenger list to fill and for the weather conditions to be right.

http://www.ibtimes.com/refugee-crisis-isis-fighters-europe-islamic-state-extremists-exploit-refugee-flow-2085787?ft=61pb1

Let em all in i say

Even if there is only 1 in 1000 who is an ISIS operative, germany has just imported a terrorist force of 800

Stick that in your liberal pipe and smoke it

Remember this guy??

ISIS fighter turned refugee

Smelly succumbs to shitting his pants again lol
What if these people are now fleeing ISIS themselves?
You have to weigh up the balance and the humanitarian need of those fleeing persecution are far more pressing.
Look if you want to shit your pants I am sure some RW dictatorship will take you in lol

Its called fear mongering Walter mitty

Best way to snap people out of their self imposed state of stupidity, because let's face it, When faced with the choice between compassion and the realisation that they will be negatively or fatally affected by their compassion

Most would swallow their shame and guilt and simply walk on by

smelly-bandit wrote:Its called fear mongering Walter mitty

Best way to snap people out of their self imposed state of stupidity, because let's face it, When faced with the choice between compassion and the realisation that they will be negatively or fatally affected by their compassion

Most would swallow their shame and guilt and simply walk on by

Yes I have already gathered you are shitting your pants Dutchman, but your fear is of second nature to the pressing needs of refugees.
Its as simple as that and I have more faith in our security forces than you do being as they have prevented six attacks this year.
Maybe its time you gave that support instead of being the prophecy oif doom and gloom.
The needs of the many far outweigh the needs of the few selfish individuals

smelly-bandit wrote:

Remember this guy??

ISIS fighter turned refugee

NOT SO

This guy is a Syrian rebel fighting against ISIS

If people doubt this, all they have to do is ask "what would I do if I was ISIS"

Would you

A - try and get your fighters in through the front door and alert the security services to their presence

B - use the chaos in europe as a smoke screen to get your fighters in undetected??

Christie wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

Remember this guy??

ISIS fighter turned refugee

NOT SO

This guy is  a Syrian rebel fighting against ISIS

Or is he

Who knows Christie

Who knows who we are letting in eh

smelly-bandit wrote:If people  doubt this, all they have to do is ask "what would I do if I was ISIS"

Would you

A - try and get your fighters in through the  front door and alert the security services to their presence

B - use the chaos in europe as a smoke screen to get your fighters in undetected??

C - Release its mistake and flee from this nightmare

d- Take the risk as hundreds of thousands of refugees outweigh the risk

smelly-bandit wrote:

Christie wrote:

NOT SO

This guy is  a Syrian rebel fighting against ISIS

Or is he

Who knows Christie

Who knows who we are letting  in eh

Please do your homework.

Laith Al Saleh, a plasterer from Aleppo, stands out from the crowd waiting in the sweltering August heat, and it's not just his battle-scarred face that sets him apart. He is accustomed to being in command — he led a 700-strong rebel unit in Syria's civil war — and he is now keen to help others dealing with exile.

Al Saleh, 30, had a home, a wife and a normal life, before the start of the fighting that has claimed more than 250,000 lives and displaced up to a third of Syria's population. Now, he's one of the tens of thousands of Syrian men, women and children who risk drowning to be smuggled into Greece by sea on frail, crammed dinghies, paying up to thousands of dollars for the service.

At least 135,000 people — mostly Syrians — have crossed over from Turkey this year, more than the total for all of 2014 and 2013 together.

None want to claim asylum in financially broken Greece, which can hardly provide for its own destitute. Their target destinations are wealthier parts of the European Union such as Germany, The Netherlands and Sweden, all only reachable after a further series of illegal border crossings, involving more danger, expense, humiliation and hardship.

"The situation in Syria is very bad, war is eating everything," Al Saleh told The Associated Press in an interview on Kos. "(The) government destroy everything, buildings, people, they kill children, women — there are no safe areas in Syria."

READ MORE HERE
ttp://news.yahoo.com/syrian-rebel-leader-seeks-europe-fleeing-govt-jihadis-163636165.html

ALSO

The possibility of militants sneaking into Europe as part of the huge flow of migrants from Syria and other countries has long worried governments and experts, but one viral picture claiming to show proof of a "migrant" Islamic State fighter isn't at all what it seems.

READ MORE HERE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34176631

Can anyone here declare that there are categorically no ISIS fighters using the immigrant Chaos to enter the UK?

Anyone at all

Christie wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

Or is he

Who knows Christie

Who knows who we are letting  in eh

Please do your homework.

Laith Al Saleh, a plasterer from Aleppo, stands out from the crowd waiting in the sweltering August heat, and it's not just his battle-scarred face that sets him apart. He is accustomed to being in command — he led a 700-strong rebel unit in Syria's civil war — and he is now keen to help others dealing with exile.

Al Saleh, 30, had a home, a wife and a normal life, before the start of the fighting that has claimed more than 250,000 lives and displaced up to a third of Syria's population. Now, he's one of the tens of thousands of Syrian men, women and children who risk drowning to be smuggled into Greece by sea on frail, crammed dinghies, paying up to thousands of dollars for the service.

At least 135,000 people — mostly Syrians — have crossed over from Turkey this year, more than the total for all of 2014 and 2013 together.

None want to claim asylum in financially broken Greece, which can hardly provide for its own destitute. Their target destinations are wealthier parts of the European Union such as Germany, The Netherlands and Sweden, all only reachable after a further series of illegal border crossings, involving more danger, expense, humiliation and hardship.

"The situation in Syria is very bad, war is eating everything," Al Saleh told The Associated Press in an interview on Kos. "(The) government destroy everything, buildings, people, they kill children, women — there are no safe areas in Syria."

READ MORE HERE
ttp://news.yahoo.com/syrian-rebel-leader-seeks-europe-fleeing-govt-jihadis-163636165.html

ALSO

The possibility of militants sneaking into Europe as part of the huge flow of migrants from Syria and other countries has long worried governments and experts, but one viral picture claiming to show proof of a "migrant" Islamic State fighter isn't at all what it seems.

READ MORE HERE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34176631

I take it you know this man personally and can vouch for him

Obviously ISIS fighters would never lie would they

smelly-bandit wrote:Can anyone here declare that there are categorically no ISIS fighters using the immigrant Chaos to enter the UK?

Anyone at all

I am sure there is some here but does that argument outweigh the need to help countless more people?
That is what you need to present your case on.
Its a no brainer as the needs of the Refugees is far greater and more pressing than the fear of some jihadi's getting through

smelly-bandit wrote:

Christie wrote:

Please do your homework.

Laith Al Saleh, a plasterer from Aleppo, stands out from the crowd waiting in the sweltering August heat, and it's not just his battle-scarred face that sets him apart. He is accustomed to being in command — he led a 700-strong rebel unit in Syria's civil war — and he is now keen to help others dealing with exile.

Al Saleh, 30, had a home, a wife and a normal life, before the start of the fighting that has claimed more than 250,000 lives and displaced up to a third of Syria's population. Now, he's one of the tens of thousands of Syrian men, women and children who risk drowning to be smuggled into Greece by sea on frail, crammed dinghies, paying up to thousands of dollars for the service.

At least 135,000 people — mostly Syrians — have crossed over from Turkey this year, more than the total for all of 2014 and 2013 together.

None want to claim asylum in financially broken Greece, which can hardly provide for its own destitute. Their target destinations are wealthier parts of the European Union such as Germany, The Netherlands and Sweden, all only reachable after a further series of illegal border crossings, involving more danger, expense, humiliation and hardship.

"The situation in Syria is very bad, war is eating everything," Al Saleh told The Associated Press in an interview on Kos. "(The) government destroy everything, buildings, people, they kill children, women — there are no safe areas in Syria."

READ MORE HERE
ttp://news.yahoo.com/syrian-rebel-leader-seeks-europe-fleeing-govt-jihadis-163636165.html

ALSO

The possibility of militants sneaking into Europe as part of the huge flow of migrants from Syria and other countries has long worried governments and experts, but one viral picture claiming to show proof of a "migrant" Islamic State fighter isn't at all what it seems.

READ MORE HERE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34176631

I take it you know this man personally and can vouch for him

Obviously ISIS fighters would never lie would they

The evidence is out there if you look for it. Obviously you never read the links.

It's just so easy for them to waltz in and still the idiots are protecting them and making excuses

Wake up you silly twats before you lose your head .

Well everyone has an opinion

Some folks are clearly happy to help terrorists enter the UK and carry out their attacks

Ironically they claim they are doing the humane thing

Bizarre

Christie wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

I take it you know this man personally and can vouch for him

Obviously ISIS fighters would never lie would they

The evidence is out there if you look for it. Obviously you never read the links.

Oh yes the evidence

Of course the evidence, because there is nothing on earth more reliable than the Internet

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:It's just so easy for them to waltz in and still the idiots are protecting them and making excuses

Wake up you silly twats before you lose your head .

Yet do we stop hundreds of thousands that need are help because some people are shitting their pants.

So lets really weigh up the risks here.





deaths from terrorism worldwide):

– You are 35,079 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

– You are 33,842 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-terrorism-statistics-every-american-needs-to-hear/5382818







Like I say people are being unrealistic in their selfish reasoning

So then why are these refugees running away

According to you they have a longer life expectancy staying put in Syria

More peoole have died from heart disease in one year than have been killed by war in 5

See, told you they were nothing but economic migrants

smelly-bandit wrote:So then why are these refugees running away

According to you they have a longer life expectancy staying put in Syria

More peoole have died from heart disease in one year than have been killed by war in 5

See, told you they were nothing but economic migrants

Look I know you are not the brightest spark going but:

Indeed, the Senior Research Scientist for the Space Science Institute (Alan W. Harris) estimates that the odds of being killed by a terrorist attack is about the same as being hit by an asteroid (and see this).

Look you may want to shit your pants and change your boxes five times a day whilst many of us get on with our lives and do the humane thing to do and help many people

Oh and one last point:


Terrorism pushes our emotional buttons. And politicians and the media tend to blow the risk of terrorism out of proportion. But as the figures above show, terrorism is a very unlikely cause of death.
Indeed, our spending on anti-terrorism measures is way out of whack … especially because most of the money has been wasted. And see this article, and this 3-minute video by professor Mueller:
Indeed, mission creep in the name of countering terrorism actually makes us more vulnerable to terrorist attacks.
Note: The U.S. is supporting the most extreme and violent types of Muslims. Indeed, the U.S. has waived the prohibitions of arming terrorist groups in order to topple the Syrian government … even though the head of the Syrian rebels has called for Al Qaeda to carry out new attacks on America.
Indeed – as counter-intuitive as it may sound- stupid government policy may be more dangerous than terrorism.

Of course the money is wasted

The idiots doing the spending have no idea how to counter religiously inspired terrorism

smelly-bandit wrote:Of course the money is wasted

The idiots doing the spending have no idea how to counter religiously inspired terrorism

You do realise that as well as terrorism more than anything in Syria and Iraq there is a civil war going on?

Anyone taking in these people in their homes are thick as pigs shite , they are conditioned and blind to reality , they are putting their children lives at risk and their own . I would rather be called in human than risk any of my family they are so precious to me and they come first every time .

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:Anyone taking in these people in their homes are thick as pigs shite , they are conditioned and blind to reality , they are putting their children lives at risk and their own . I would rather be called in human than risk any of my family they are so precious to me and they come first every time .

Or just not shiting their pants like you are where you are way over exaggerating a fear.

Cuchulain wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:Of course the money is wasted

The idiots doing the spending have no idea how to counter religiously inspired terrorism

You do realise that as well as terrorism more than anything in Syria and Iraq there is a civil war going on?

And a civil war will soon be here too nobody i know have the opinion of you lot on here , everyone are sick to the high teeth of England being used as a dumping ground .

So i just realize you're all just here to wind decent folk up all the time .

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

You do realise that as well as terrorism more than anything in Syria and Iraq there is a civil war going on?

And a civil war will soon be here too nobody i know have the opinion of you lot on here , everyone are sick to the high teeth of England being used as a dumping ground .

So i just realize you're all just here to wind decent folk up all the time .

Yep heard that exaggerated fear also about a war coming to these shores also.
Its really sad how some people are so easily led by fear.
This country owes much to the world where your advanatged position came about slavery and resourcecs not our own to the point it created the economic position this country has today. What it shows is some people today have no comprehension how adavantaged they are.

Cuchulain wrote:

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:Anyone taking in these people in their homes are thick as pigs shite , they are conditioned and blind to reality , they are putting their children lives at risk and their own . I would rather be called in human than risk any of my family they are so precious to me and they come first every time .

Or just not shiting their pants like you are where you are way over exaggerating a fear.

Better to listen to fear and save the lives of myself and my family . That's why we have feeling of fear and anxiety it is our natural defense but most people aren't brainwashed like you and others , sensible people listen watch and find out the truth .

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Or just not shiting their pants like you are where you are way over exaggerating a fear.

Better to listen to fear and save the lives of myself and my family . That's why we have feeling of fear and anxiety it is our natural defense but most people aren't brainwashed like you and others , sensible people listen watch and find out the truth .

You have as much chance of being hit by an asteroid as you do from terrorism, which really puts into perspective how much you shit your pants over an exaggerated fear.
Look if you shit your pants that much there is nothing stopping you leaving is there?

Cuchulain wrote:

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:


And a civil war will soon be here too nobody i know have the opinion of you lot on here , everyone are sick to the high teeth of England being used as a dumping ground .

So i just realize you're all just here to wind decent folk up all the time .

Yep heard that exaggerated fear also about a war coming to these shores also.
Its really sad how some people are so easily led by fear.
This country owes much to the world where your advanatged position came about slavery and resourcecs not our own to the point it created the economic position this country has today. What it shows is some people today have no comprehension how adavantaged they are.

This country owes more to its own people , but that never happens does it , its just the case of fuck you lot we want to wipe you out as planned .

I have no shame in wanting to protect my own family and country and as for my advantaged position you think we didn't work hard for it . Well there is not one British person i know of so far that want these people here so your opinion are just nothing but a wind up .

If you're really that set on having them then you need to watch your back all the time you might just end up without a head .

Cuchulain wrote:

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:


Better to listen to fear and save the lives of myself and my family . That's why we have feeling of fear and anxiety it is our natural defense but most people aren't brainwashed like you and others , sensible people listen watch and find out the truth .

You have as much chance of being hit by an asteroid as you do from terrorism, which really puts into perspective how much you shit your pants over an exaggerated fear.
Look if you shit your pants that much there is nothing stopping you leaving is there?

I would rather have shit in my pants than the shit that comes out of your mouth constantly .

Cuchulain wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:Of course the money is wasted

The idiots doing the spending have no idea how to counter religiously inspired terrorism

You do realise that as well as terrorism more than anything in Syria and Iraq there is a civil war going on?

Terrorism??

bah!!!!!

Greater chance of being hit being Christmas sled driven by a cross dressing drink driving santa

Amazing how the Christians are condemning the charity if others, the world is surely upside down...

Most people I know believe we have to help even if they do think we are full (though not all).

smelly-bandit wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

You do realise that as well as terrorism more than anything in Syria and Iraq there is a civil war going on?

Terrorism??

bah!!!!!

Greater chance of  being hit being Christmas sled driven by a cross dressing drink driving santa

Look, one thing I do at work is risk analysis, so I have a clear better understanding than you do smelly as your is limited to the field of battle.
The whole objected of terrorists is to instill fear, so in this regard they have suceeded in their aim with you and others, because you are easy to sway. People need to be defiant towards terrorism and get on with their lives to show we are not going to be drawn into fear.

Vicar Of Dibley wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

You have as much chance of being hit by an asteroid as you do from terrorism, which really puts into perspective how much you shit your pants over an exaggerated fear.
Look if you shit your pants that much there is nothing stopping you leaving is there?

I would rather have shit in my pants than the shit that comes out of your mouth constantly .

Bye then and send me a postcard, whilst the rest of us stay defiant to any terrorist threat.

Eilzel wrote:Amazing how the Christians are condemning the charity if others, the world is surely upside down...

Most people I know believe we have to help even if they do think we are full (though not all).  

Do you really think opening the door to unchecked unvetted migrants is a good idea??

How many terrorists are you willing to accept? 1:10?? 1:1000

How many criminals fleeing justice will use your compassion??

You think your niave compassion is going to touch the hearts of the bad men, get them to stop trafficking?

By hey I just a SIXHIRB maybe we wont get any undesirables, maybe they will all be nice people who speak english have professional degrees and a burning desire to integrate and contribute

More chance of being hit by a meteor according to Walters stats

smelly-bandit wrote:

Eilzel wrote:Amazing how the Christians are condemning the charity if others, the world is surely upside down...

Most people I know believe we have to help even if they do think we are full (though not all).  

Do you really think opening the door to unchecked unvetted migrants is a good idea??

How many terrorists are you willing to accept? 1:10?? 1:1000

How many criminals fleeing justice will use your compassion??

You think your niave compassion is going to touch the hearts of the bad men, get them to stop trafficking?

By hey I just a SIXHIRB maybe we wont get any undesirables, maybe they will all be nice people who speak english have professional degrees and a burning desire to integrate and contribute

More chance of being hit by a meteor according to Walters stats

The fact is you exaggerate a fear because you do shit your pants

The fact is those in need far outweigh your fears.

Those are the facts and its best you get used to that fact

europe is importing an invasion force, i suppose they will get what they deserve...

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:europe is importing an invasion force, i suppose they will get what they deserve...

Complete deranged lunacy which only an extremist would claim

Cuchulain wrote:

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:europe is importing an invasion force, i suppose they will get what they deserve...

Complete deranged lunacy which only an extremist would claim

so tell me how you know it is not true??

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Complete deranged lunacy which only an extremist would claim

so tell me how you know it is not true??

Quite simple really, there is a civil war going on at the moment which millions are fleeing persecution if you had not noticed
You live by fear which means you are a chicken shit ha ha ha ha

Cuchulain wrote:

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:

so tell me how you know it is not true??

Quite simple really, there is a civil war going on at the moment which millions are fleeing persecution if you had not noticed
You live by fear which means you are a chicken shit ha ha ha ha

ha ha and you think that the terrorists won't make the most of this situation, so many people around they cannot be properly vetted, hardly any will have proper documentation, you live in a dream world but I guess we all know that, can't you debate with out insult oh no you can't can you..lol

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Quite simple really, there is a civil war going on at the moment which millions are fleeing persecution if you had not noticed
You live by fear which means you are a chicken shit ha ha ha ha

ha ha and you think that the terrorists won't make the most of this situation, so many people around they cannot be properly vetted, hardly any will have proper documentation, you live in a dream world but I guess we all know that, can't you debate with out insult oh no you can't can you..lol

Hearsay, followed by bullshit folloowed by shitting your pants to an exaggerated fear

Lol, seriously wipe your arse as the stench is over bearing you have shit yourself so much

Cuchulain wrote:

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:

ha ha and you think that the terrorists won't make the most of this situation, so many people around they cannot be properly vetted, hardly any will have proper documentation, you live in a dream world but I guess we all know that, can't you debate with out insult oh no you can't can you..lol

Hearsay, followed by bullshit folloowed by shitting your pants to an exaggerated fear

Lol, seriously wipe your arse as the stench is over bearing you have shit yourself so much

still can't debate without insult..lol

what is the chance of all those refugees being properly vetted...???

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Hearsay, followed by bullshit folloowed by shitting your pants to an exaggerated fear

Lol, seriously wipe your arse as the stench is over bearing you have shit yourself so much

still can't debate without insult..lol

what is the chance of all those refugees being properly vetted...???

That is because you are a thick dummy

I debate somethging that has sense.

You have no sense, because you do not have any intelligence.

A child has more concept than you do

That is a fact

Cuchulain wrote:

heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:

still can't debate without insult..lol

what is the chance of all those refugees being properly vetted...???

That is because you are a thick dummy

I debate somethging that has sense.

You have no sense, because you do not have any intelligence.

A child has more concept than you do

That is a fact

still can't debate without insult!!!!!

tell me if it is possible to properly vet so many people in one go, especially when they will not be carrying proper documentation???

it's a simple question....

Provide your evidence.

All you have done is go off unfounded fear where you understand nothing about risk which has already been debated.

Even smelly had no answer who at least has some Christian qualities where you have none.

I am tired debating with such a fuckwit of which you truly are.

Cuchulain wrote:Provide your evidence.

All you have done is go off unfounded fear where you understand nothing about risk which has already been debated.

Even smelly had no answer who at least has some Christian qualities where you have none.

I am tired debating with such a fuckwit of which you truly are.

still can't debate without insults i see...!!!!!

show your evidence that everyone of those refugees are not members of a terrorist group...

this should be fun....

Ha ha ha

I asked for your evidence you idiot


I have gone through with smelly on risk, would you like the percentages and be made to look an even bigger tit


Last chance to present your evidence or the forum will see you are a pthetic twat?