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Vatican to take in two refugee families as Pope calls for 'every religion' to help
The Pontiff continues his outspoken support for migrants by saying says ‘gospel calls us to be close to the smallest and to the abandoned’
Pope Francis has called on every religious community across Europe to do their part to stem the refugee crisis and offer sanctuary to migrant families.
In front of a crowd of thousands of people in St Peter’s Square, the Roman Catholic leader said it was not enough to simply encourage the refugees with calls for courage and patience. Instead, he suggested, tangible demonstrations of help were required.
“May every parish, every religious community, every monastery, every sanctuary of Europe, take in one family,” he said.
The comments came as thousands of refugees from Syria arrived in Austria and Germany after an exhausting journey form Hungary, amid an escalating debate within the EU about how to handle the crisis.
The European commission is expected to release a proposal this week calling for EU members to agree to a quota system in which each would agree to host a portion of an estimated 160,000 refugees.
In Germany and other parts of Europe, thousands of migrants have been welcomed by volunteers who have donated food and clothing. But the pope is calling on the faithful to do more.
“Before the tragedy of tens of thousands of refugees fleeing death in conflict and hunger and are on a journey of hope, the gospel calls us to be close to the smallest and to those who have been abandoned,” he said.
For Catholics, offering shelter to a refugee family would be seen as a “concrete act of preparation” for the Jubilee Year of Mercy beginning in December, he added.
Francis said the Vatican would itself be extending help to two families who will be taken in by Vatican parishes.
The Argentinian pontiff rarely makes such specific statements about ways to offer charity and assistance, but he has been an outspoken supporter of refugees and migrants since the beginning of his papacy.
In 2013, long before the current refugee crisis, in which thousands have died attempting the treacherous journey from Libya to the southern shores of Italy, became daily news, Francis made a visit to the Italian island of Lampedusa to visit migrants. There he criticised what he called the “globalisation of indifference” to their plight by rich countries.
More recently, Francis made pointed remarks about refugees and the European debate, including a comment in June that those countries and people who shut their doors to migrants ought to ask God for forgiveness. The comment came amid clashes between police and migrants on the border between France and Italy, after France refused to let migrants cross the border.
The pope’s stance has prompted rare criticism of the church by Italy’s rightwing opposition, led by Matteo Salvini of the Northern League, who in a radio interview once sarcastically asked how many migrants were living in Vatican City.
It seems that now Pope Francis will be able to offer a reply.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/06/pope-francis-calls-on-catholics-to-take-in-refugee-families
Pope Francis has called on every religious community across Europe to do their part to stem the refugee crisis and offer sanctuary to migrant families.
In front of a crowd of thousands of people in St Peter’s Square, the Roman Catholic leader said it was not enough to simply encourage the refugees with calls for courage and patience. Instead, he suggested, tangible demonstrations of help were required.
“May every parish, every religious community, every monastery, every sanctuary of Europe, take in one family,” he said.
The comments came as thousands of refugees from Syria arrived in Austria and Germany after an exhausting journey form Hungary, amid an escalating debate within the EU about how to handle the crisis.
The European commission is expected to release a proposal this week calling for EU members to agree to a quota system in which each would agree to host a portion of an estimated 160,000 refugees.
In Germany and other parts of Europe, thousands of migrants have been welcomed by volunteers who have donated food and clothing. But the pope is calling on the faithful to do more.
“Before the tragedy of tens of thousands of refugees fleeing death in conflict and hunger and are on a journey of hope, the gospel calls us to be close to the smallest and to those who have been abandoned,” he said.
For Catholics, offering shelter to a refugee family would be seen as a “concrete act of preparation” for the Jubilee Year of Mercy beginning in December, he added.
Francis said the Vatican would itself be extending help to two families who will be taken in by Vatican parishes.
The Argentinian pontiff rarely makes such specific statements about ways to offer charity and assistance, but he has been an outspoken supporter of refugees and migrants since the beginning of his papacy.
In 2013, long before the current refugee crisis, in which thousands have died attempting the treacherous journey from Libya to the southern shores of Italy, became daily news, Francis made a visit to the Italian island of Lampedusa to visit migrants. There he criticised what he called the “globalisation of indifference” to their plight by rich countries.
More recently, Francis made pointed remarks about refugees and the European debate, including a comment in June that those countries and people who shut their doors to migrants ought to ask God for forgiveness. The comment came amid clashes between police and migrants on the border between France and Italy, after France refused to let migrants cross the border.
The pope’s stance has prompted rare criticism of the church by Italy’s rightwing opposition, led by Matteo Salvini of the Northern League, who in a radio interview once sarcastically asked how many migrants were living in Vatican City.
It seems that now Pope Francis will be able to offer a reply.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/06/pope-francis-calls-on-catholics-to-take-in-refugee-families
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only two families lol well that's very good of him
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Vicar Of Dibley wrote:only two families lol well that's very good of him
I think Bob Geldof is taking in more than that..lol
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heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:Vicar Of Dibley wrote:only two families lol well that's very good of him
I think Bob Geldof is taking in more than that..lol
well the pope needs to be careful he may just be entertaining ISIS .
Although he is a fake and serves satan so he will be okay .
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Vicar Of Dibley wrote:heavenlyfatheryetagain wrote:
I think Bob Geldof is taking in more than that..lol
well the pope needs to be careful he may just be entertaining ISIS .
Although he is a fake and serves satan so he will be okay .
the devil will protect his own...
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You do realise that around 10% of the Syrian population are Christian?
So why are you not helping your fellow Christians?
So why are you not helping your fellow Christians?
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Because they are not Christian, never have been, never will be, not an ounce of Christianity in them. If there was a Jesus and he was around, he'd be telling them they'd go to hell.
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Seems to me he's a real step up from some of the others they have had.
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sassy wrote:Seems to me he's a real step up from some of the others they have had.
Indeed.
Its not easy welcoming total strangers in your place
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SEXY MAMA wrote:sassy wrote:Seems to me he's a real step up from some of the others they have had.
Indeed.
Its not easy welcoming total strangers in your place
However big it is, lol
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sassy wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
Indeed.
Its not easy welcoming total strangers in your place
However big it is, lol
U know what imean lol
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the pope isn't Christian most catholics do not know Jesus as their personal saviour . Some people claim to have family members as vicars and yet do not support them in their faith what kind of parent does that i ask you , how could a parent ridicule their own child's faith . Nothing loving about that especially when some will defend islam with their lives . No they're just not human they have bricks for hearts and are full of hatred which rots the body from inside . Hatred a slow painful death .
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Vicar Of Dibley wrote:the pope isn't Christian most catholics do not know Jesus as their personal saviour . Some people claim to have family members as vicars and yet do not support them in their faith what kind of parent does that i ask you , how could a parent ridicule their own child's faith . Nothing loving about that especially when some will defend islam with their lives . No they're just not human they have bricks for hearts and are full of hatred which rots the body from inside . Hatred a slow painful death .
it seems to eat away at them, can cause illness and all sorts of things, best not to hold hate...
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yep some people are so consumed with hate good thing Jesus loves them
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Cuchulain wrote:You do realise that around 10% of the Syrian population are Christian?
So why are you not helping your fellow Christians?
I am
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WTF
the pope isn't christian
Can you seriously get any more ignorant
HOW pray tell to you get that the leader of the worlds largest Christian sect is not a Christian.
Are you seriously that religiously Bigoted
What do you think about the Christian Orthodoxies? which are all centuries older than the King James bible
the pope isn't christian
Can you seriously get any more ignorant
HOW pray tell to you get that the leader of the worlds largest Christian sect is not a Christian.
Are you seriously that religiously Bigoted
What do you think about the Christian Orthodoxies? which are all centuries older than the King James bible
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Two families eh?
I suppose every little helps
I suppose every little helps
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veya_victaous wrote:WTF
the pope isn't christian
Can you seriously get any more ignorant
HOW pray tell to you get that the leader of the worlds largest Christian sect is not a Christian.
Are you seriously that religiously Bigoted
What do you think about the Christian Orthodoxies? which are all centuries older than the King James bible
lol do some research into the popes you will find the truth , he is not a christian = fact
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The Roman Catholic "Church" is Not Christian
Contents
Introduction--practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic church contradict the Bible
If you get saved, do not go join a cult. A lesson from Galatians.
A Note About Tolerance
The Woman is Drunken With Blood--at the instigation of her popes, Rome has shed rivers of blood of Christians who would not bow down to the Pope and Roman Catholic heresies and blasphemies--the martyrs of Jesus
Proof that the Roman Catholic Church is known as a persecuting church
Did the Roman Catholic Church give us the Bible? (history says, "No!!!")
Roman Catholic Tradition contradicts the Bible* repeatedly. [click here to go directly to this section]
*[the Authorized Version of 1611]
* * * Introduction * * *
Practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic religion contradict the Bible repeatedly. In this article, we are going to examine a few Roman Catholic doctrines and compare them with the Authorized Version of 1611 of the Bible. The Roman Catholic church is the largest cult in the world and most preachers will not openly say so because it is so large.
For Catholics who read this--if you will only believe the holy scriptures--the Bible (Authorized Version of 1611)--and nothing else, you can be released from deception today. Just look at the scriptures and compare them to the precepts of Rome. You will not be the first person to read the scriptures clearly and then be saved by REPENTING of your sins and BELIEVING on the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who shed his blood ONE TIME to pay for our sins that we have committed. He died to completely pay for our sins and he rose again for our justification (ref. Romans 4:25). You will not get to heaven by your own works and by following the rules and regulations of a (supposedly) religious organization--the Roman Catholic institution--which is founded on heresies and blasphemies. When we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and read his word, we love him and he helps us to serve him and walk uprightly and understand what we need to know. Salvation is a free gift (reference Romans 5:15-16, 17)--no paying for "masses" (the "mass" is a horrendous blasphemy), "indulgences", etc. No "penance", crawling on your knees, purgatory (there is no purgatory, it is not in the Bible), etc. The Lord Jesus Christ died ONE time to purchase our eternal salvation. All that we have to do is REPENT of our sins, BELIEVE that he died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day, and we must also OBEY his word (his commandments are not grievous, reference I John 5:13). In the Roman Catholic church, it seems that the rich man has a better chance in the afterworld (according to her own false doctrine), because he can pay to have the masses performed to relieve himself of time in "purgatory" (which does not exist, but everlasting hellfire does). But in the Bible, we read on this wise, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! and, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Luke 18:24-25). Purgatory is a money maker. The historic sale of indulgences is a money maker. People's souls and purses have been farmed for the devil for centuries on end, "Peter's pence", statue idols, and on and on it goes--and it was done in the name of "Christianity".
The following is excerpted from The Martyrs of Jesus--
The Roman Catholic Church is not Christian; her precepts contradict the Bible repeatedly. Nowadays, it can be heard that the Roman Catholic Church gave us the Bible--but she actually burned Bibles and them that translated and believed the Bible (witness William Tyndale, a good and a great man). Rome is full of heresies (e.g., Mary remained a virgin) and blasphemies (e.g., the mass--many died for not believing this). She has killed multitudes of Christians. She has maintained her blasphemous reign as the so-called "church" by force and deception--not by the truth of the Bible (which she publicly railed against). The Bible reveals who Rome is and is therefore dangerous to her. Why is she posing as the Christian church? False religion is a money maker. Her doctrines/teachings have enabled her to collect wealth, delicacies, adoration, and power for centuries on end. Her doctrines are made up stories consisting of various elements and superstitions and pasted together with some Bible names. Even one of her popes said that the Roman Catholic false Christ (her transubstantiatable "victim,") is a made up fable. When the Roman Catholic "Church" speaks of Christ, it is speaking of its own invention, not the true Christ. That is why her doctrines are diametrically opposed to the Bible, they have been made up over centuries of time. One can find dates when various heresies have been added to the pot (infallibility of the pope, assumption of Mary, etc.). The Bible speaks of people who preach "another Jesus" (2 Corinthians 11:4)--and Rome is in that category.
"Every age knows how useful this fable of Christ has been to us and ours*...8"
8 Fa de Christo fabula. Mornaei Hist. Papatus, p. 820.
Statement attributed to Pope Leo X who was speaking to his secretary Bembo.
(excerpted from History of the Reformation of the Sixteenth Century, Volume 1, Books 1-4
by J.H. Merle D'Aubigne, Legacy Publications edition, p. 51)
*(Rome's doctrines are heresies, lies, blasphemies, and fables--deadly dangerous fables;
these fables are actually destroying people's souls, FOREVER.
"PURGATORY" IS ACTUALLY HELL--HELL IS NO TEMPORARY PLACE OF PURGING, IT IS JUST HELL.
Those that love their own souls need to turn from the Roman Catholic fables and start listening to the word of God.
The word of the Lord is right and all his works are done in truth. There is no purgatory, just heaven and hell.
There is no "seven channels of grace." The only thing that God accepts is faith in the blood of Jesus which was shed to pay for our sins.
The word "purgatory" and the concept of purgatory are just part of the money-making Roman Catholic fable system--
to get out of "purgatory" people have to keep on paying for masses even after a person is D-E-A-D.
Former Jesuit, Dr. Alberto Rivera, said that whole fortunes have been left to Rome so that masses could be said--not leaving money to the family,
LEAVING THE MONEY TO ROME TO PAY FOR MASSES TO GET THEIR SOULS OUT OF PURGATORY.
Pope Leo X (quoted above) now knows that whatever little worldly gains and lusts he got were not worth it.)
For the love of money is the root of all evil... I Timothy 6:10
Author Edmond Paris says that the "gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits" gives Rome power in "so many spheres"--
"...The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars--a situation which may be explained in part by the GIGANTIC FINANCES at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, GIVING THEM POWER IN SO MANY SPHERES..." The Secret History of the Jesuits, by Edmond Paris, p. 9; emphases ours).]
Rome killed true Christians. Her heresies are manifested when someone reads the Bible. She has killed people for reading and translating the Bible. When Christians share the truth of God's word, Catholics who want to know the truth leave her (and so does their money). Rome has kept her reign by deceiving people with a false gospel and by force. Former Roman Catholic priest Richard Bennett boiled down her strategy--(1) get laws on the books in the various kingdoms and (2) then get them executed (see "The Pattern of Papal Persecutions, Then and Now", inquisit.htm).
The Bible reveals that Rome is drunken with the blood of the saints (Revelation 17:6), it intoxicates her, that woman that sits on seven mountains (Revelation 17:9). For centuries, the woman that sits on seven mountains has called Bible believing Christians, "heretics", and herself, "the Church"--but she is the heretic and she is not the church, but is actually the woman of Revelation 17, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH (Revelation 17:5). Christians have known this for ages, the historical record proves this abundantly. Former Roman Catholic Jesuit priest, Dr. Alberto Rivera, is very bold--
Contents
Introduction--practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic church contradict the Bible
If you get saved, do not go join a cult. A lesson from Galatians.
A Note About Tolerance
The Woman is Drunken With Blood--at the instigation of her popes, Rome has shed rivers of blood of Christians who would not bow down to the Pope and Roman Catholic heresies and blasphemies--the martyrs of Jesus
Proof that the Roman Catholic Church is known as a persecuting church
Did the Roman Catholic Church give us the Bible? (history says, "No!!!")
Roman Catholic Tradition contradicts the Bible* repeatedly. [click here to go directly to this section]
*[the Authorized Version of 1611]
* * * Introduction * * *
Practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic religion contradict the Bible repeatedly. In this article, we are going to examine a few Roman Catholic doctrines and compare them with the Authorized Version of 1611 of the Bible. The Roman Catholic church is the largest cult in the world and most preachers will not openly say so because it is so large.
For Catholics who read this--if you will only believe the holy scriptures--the Bible (Authorized Version of 1611)--and nothing else, you can be released from deception today. Just look at the scriptures and compare them to the precepts of Rome. You will not be the first person to read the scriptures clearly and then be saved by REPENTING of your sins and BELIEVING on the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who shed his blood ONE TIME to pay for our sins that we have committed. He died to completely pay for our sins and he rose again for our justification (ref. Romans 4:25). You will not get to heaven by your own works and by following the rules and regulations of a (supposedly) religious organization--the Roman Catholic institution--which is founded on heresies and blasphemies. When we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and read his word, we love him and he helps us to serve him and walk uprightly and understand what we need to know. Salvation is a free gift (reference Romans 5:15-16, 17)--no paying for "masses" (the "mass" is a horrendous blasphemy), "indulgences", etc. No "penance", crawling on your knees, purgatory (there is no purgatory, it is not in the Bible), etc. The Lord Jesus Christ died ONE time to purchase our eternal salvation. All that we have to do is REPENT of our sins, BELIEVE that he died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day, and we must also OBEY his word (his commandments are not grievous, reference I John 5:13). In the Roman Catholic church, it seems that the rich man has a better chance in the afterworld (according to her own false doctrine), because he can pay to have the masses performed to relieve himself of time in "purgatory" (which does not exist, but everlasting hellfire does). But in the Bible, we read on this wise, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! and, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Luke 18:24-25). Purgatory is a money maker. The historic sale of indulgences is a money maker. People's souls and purses have been farmed for the devil for centuries on end, "Peter's pence", statue idols, and on and on it goes--and it was done in the name of "Christianity".
The following is excerpted from The Martyrs of Jesus--
The Roman Catholic Church is not Christian; her precepts contradict the Bible repeatedly. Nowadays, it can be heard that the Roman Catholic Church gave us the Bible--but she actually burned Bibles and them that translated and believed the Bible (witness William Tyndale, a good and a great man). Rome is full of heresies (e.g., Mary remained a virgin) and blasphemies (e.g., the mass--many died for not believing this). She has killed multitudes of Christians. She has maintained her blasphemous reign as the so-called "church" by force and deception--not by the truth of the Bible (which she publicly railed against). The Bible reveals who Rome is and is therefore dangerous to her. Why is she posing as the Christian church? False religion is a money maker. Her doctrines/teachings have enabled her to collect wealth, delicacies, adoration, and power for centuries on end. Her doctrines are made up stories consisting of various elements and superstitions and pasted together with some Bible names. Even one of her popes said that the Roman Catholic false Christ (her transubstantiatable "victim,") is a made up fable. When the Roman Catholic "Church" speaks of Christ, it is speaking of its own invention, not the true Christ. That is why her doctrines are diametrically opposed to the Bible, they have been made up over centuries of time. One can find dates when various heresies have been added to the pot (infallibility of the pope, assumption of Mary, etc.). The Bible speaks of people who preach "another Jesus" (2 Corinthians 11:4)--and Rome is in that category.
"Every age knows how useful this fable of Christ has been to us and ours*...8"
8 Fa de Christo fabula. Mornaei Hist. Papatus, p. 820.
Statement attributed to Pope Leo X who was speaking to his secretary Bembo.
(excerpted from History of the Reformation of the Sixteenth Century, Volume 1, Books 1-4
by J.H. Merle D'Aubigne, Legacy Publications edition, p. 51)
*(Rome's doctrines are heresies, lies, blasphemies, and fables--deadly dangerous fables;
these fables are actually destroying people's souls, FOREVER.
"PURGATORY" IS ACTUALLY HELL--HELL IS NO TEMPORARY PLACE OF PURGING, IT IS JUST HELL.
Those that love their own souls need to turn from the Roman Catholic fables and start listening to the word of God.
The word of the Lord is right and all his works are done in truth. There is no purgatory, just heaven and hell.
There is no "seven channels of grace." The only thing that God accepts is faith in the blood of Jesus which was shed to pay for our sins.
The word "purgatory" and the concept of purgatory are just part of the money-making Roman Catholic fable system--
to get out of "purgatory" people have to keep on paying for masses even after a person is D-E-A-D.
Former Jesuit, Dr. Alberto Rivera, said that whole fortunes have been left to Rome so that masses could be said--not leaving money to the family,
LEAVING THE MONEY TO ROME TO PAY FOR MASSES TO GET THEIR SOULS OUT OF PURGATORY.
Pope Leo X (quoted above) now knows that whatever little worldly gains and lusts he got were not worth it.)
For the love of money is the root of all evil... I Timothy 6:10
Author Edmond Paris says that the "gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits" gives Rome power in "so many spheres"--
"...The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars--a situation which may be explained in part by the GIGANTIC FINANCES at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, GIVING THEM POWER IN SO MANY SPHERES..." The Secret History of the Jesuits, by Edmond Paris, p. 9; emphases ours).]
Rome killed true Christians. Her heresies are manifested when someone reads the Bible. She has killed people for reading and translating the Bible. When Christians share the truth of God's word, Catholics who want to know the truth leave her (and so does their money). Rome has kept her reign by deceiving people with a false gospel and by force. Former Roman Catholic priest Richard Bennett boiled down her strategy--(1) get laws on the books in the various kingdoms and (2) then get them executed (see "The Pattern of Papal Persecutions, Then and Now", inquisit.htm).
The Bible reveals that Rome is drunken with the blood of the saints (Revelation 17:6), it intoxicates her, that woman that sits on seven mountains (Revelation 17:9). For centuries, the woman that sits on seven mountains has called Bible believing Christians, "heretics", and herself, "the Church"--but she is the heretic and she is not the church, but is actually the woman of Revelation 17, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH (Revelation 17:5). Christians have known this for ages, the historical record proves this abundantly. Former Roman Catholic Jesuit priest, Dr. Alberto Rivera, is very bold--
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Vicar Of Dibley wrote:veya_victaous wrote:WTF
the pope isn't christian
Can you seriously get any more ignorant
HOW pray tell to you get that the leader of the worlds largest Christian sect is not a Christian.
Are you seriously that religiously Bigoted
What do you think about the Christian Orthodoxies? which are all centuries older than the King James bible
lol do some research into the popes you will find the truth , he is not a christian = fact
I agree. The Roman Catholic Church is the Pauline church, and has nothing to do with Christ. But then, neither do any religions that are based upon the blble of Nicaea. Paul rewrote the life of Christ, and the mission of Christianity after the crucifixion.
Paul never met Christ, nor did he ever converse (correspond) with him.
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Actually Paul met with God on the Damascus road he also would have know a lot about the Christians at the time he was persecuting them, he also had a unique position in as much as he was in line to be the next high priest .
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lol do some research into the popes you will find the truth , he is not a christian = fact
I agree. The Roman Catholic Church is the Pauline church, and has nothing to do with Christ. But then, neither do any religions that are based upon the blble of Nicaea. Paul rewrote the life of Christ, and the mission of Christianity after the crucifixion.
Paul never met Christ, nor did he ever converse (correspond) with him.
catholic church pauline, when paul writes of christ crucified and resurrected, paul never mentions praying to mary, he speaks against keeping the law and declares Jesus is the only way to God...
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Original Quill wrote:Vicar Of Dibley wrote:veya_victaous wrote:WTF
the pope isn't christian
Can you seriously get any more ignorant
HOW pray tell to you get that the leader of the worlds largest Christian sect is not a Christian.
Are you seriously that religiously Bigoted
What do you think about the Christian Orthodoxies? which are all centuries older than the King James bible
lol do some research into the popes you will find the truth , he is not a christian = fact
I agree. The Roman Catholic Church is the Pauline church, and has nothing to do with Christ. But then, neither do any religions that are based upon the blble of Nicaea. Paul rewrote the life of Christ, and the mission of Christianity after the crucifixion.
Paul never met Christ, nor did he ever converse (correspond) with him.
That's Great but Christianity (with exception of Coptic, Yardiz and a few others) is a Institution of the Roman state
Bible doesn't exist until 300 year AFTER Jesus OR Paul is dead.
Constantine Made it (except for exceptions above)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_church_of_the_Roman_Empire
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Vicar Of Dibley wrote:The Roman Catholic "Church" is Not Christian
Contents
Introduction--practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic church contradict the Bible
If you get saved, do not go join a cult. A lesson from Galatians.
A Note About Tolerance
The Woman is Drunken With Blood--at the instigation of her popes, Rome has shed rivers of blood of Christians who would not bow down to the Pope and Roman Catholic heresies and blasphemies--the martyrs of Jesus
Proof that the Roman Catholic Church is known as a persecuting church
Did the Roman Catholic Church give us the Bible? (history says, "No!!!")
Roman Catholic Tradition contradicts the Bible* repeatedly. [click here to go directly to this section]
*[the Authorized Version of 1611]
* * * Introduction * * *
Practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic religion contradict the Bible repeatedly. In this article, we are going to examine a few Roman Catholic doctrines and compare them with the Authorized Version of 1611 of the Bible. The Roman Catholic church is the largest cult in the world and most preachers will not openly say so because it is so large.
For Catholics who read this--if you will only believe the holy scriptures--the Bible (Authorized Version of 1611)--and nothing else, you can be released from deception today. Just look at the scriptures and compare them to the precepts of Rome. You will not be the first person to read the scriptures clearly and then be saved by REPENTING of your sins and BELIEVING on the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who shed his blood ONE TIME to pay for our sins that we have committed. He died to completely pay for our sins and he rose again for our justification (ref. Romans 4:25). You will not get to heaven by your own works and by following the rules and regulations of a (supposedly) religious organization--the Roman Catholic institution--which is founded on heresies and blasphemies. When we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and read his word, we love him and he helps us to serve him and walk uprightly and understand what we need to know. Salvation is a free gift (reference Romans 5:15-16, 17)--no paying for "masses" (the "mass" is a horrendous blasphemy), "indulgences", etc. No "penance", crawling on your knees, purgatory (there is no purgatory, it is not in the Bible), etc. The Lord Jesus Christ died ONE time to purchase our eternal salvation. All that we have to do is REPENT of our sins, BELIEVE that he died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day, and we must also OBEY his word (his commandments are not grievous, reference I John 5:13). In the Roman Catholic church, it seems that the rich man has a better chance in the afterworld (according to her own false doctrine), because he can pay to have the masses performed to relieve himself of time in "purgatory" (which does not exist, but everlasting hellfire does). But in the Bible, we read on this wise, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! and, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Luke 18:24-25). Purgatory is a money maker. The historic sale of indulgences is a money maker. People's souls and purses have been farmed for the devil for centuries on end, "Peter's pence", statue idols, and on and on it goes--and it was done in the name of "Christianity".
The following is excerpted from The Martyrs of Jesus--
The Roman Catholic Church is not Christian; her precepts contradict the Bible repeatedly. Nowadays, it can be heard that the Roman Catholic Church gave us the Bible--but she actually burned Bibles and them that translated and believed the Bible (witness William Tyndale, a good and a great man). Rome is full of heresies (e.g., Mary remained a virgin) and blasphemies (e.g., the mass--many died for not believing this). She has killed multitudes of Christians. She has maintained her blasphemous reign as the so-called "church" by force and deception--not by the truth of the Bible (which she publicly railed against). The Bible reveals who Rome is and is therefore dangerous to her. Why is she posing as the Christian church? False religion is a money maker. Her doctrines/teachings have enabled her to collect wealth, delicacies, adoration, and power for centuries on end. Her doctrines are made up stories consisting of various elements and superstitions and pasted together with some Bible names. Even one of her popes said that the Roman Catholic false Christ (her transubstantiatable "victim,") is a made up fable. When the Roman Catholic "Church" speaks of Christ, it is speaking of its own invention, not the true Christ. That is why her doctrines are diametrically opposed to the Bible, they have been made up over centuries of time. One can find dates when various heresies have been added to the pot (infallibility of the pope, assumption of Mary, etc.). The Bible speaks of people who preach "another Jesus" (2 Corinthians 11:4)--and Rome is in that category.
"Every age knows how useful this fable of Christ has been to us and ours*...8"
8 Fa de Christo fabula. Mornaei Hist. Papatus, p. 820.
Statement attributed to Pope Leo X who was speaking to his secretary Bembo.
(excerpted from History of the Reformation of the Sixteenth Century, Volume 1, Books 1-4
by J.H. Merle D'Aubigne, Legacy Publications edition, p. 51)
*(Rome's doctrines are heresies, lies, blasphemies, and fables--deadly dangerous fables;
these fables are actually destroying people's souls, FOREVER.
"PURGATORY" IS ACTUALLY HELL--HELL IS NO TEMPORARY PLACE OF PURGING, IT IS JUST HELL.
Those that love their own souls need to turn from the Roman Catholic fables and start listening to the word of God.
The word of the Lord is right and all his works are done in truth. There is no purgatory, just heaven and hell.
There is no "seven channels of grace." The only thing that God accepts is faith in the blood of Jesus which was shed to pay for our sins.
The word "purgatory" and the concept of purgatory are just part of the money-making Roman Catholic fable system--
to get out of "purgatory" people have to keep on paying for masses even after a person is D-E-A-D.
Former Jesuit, Dr. Alberto Rivera, said that whole fortunes have been left to Rome so that masses could be said--not leaving money to the family,
LEAVING THE MONEY TO ROME TO PAY FOR MASSES TO GET THEIR SOULS OUT OF PURGATORY.
Pope Leo X (quoted above) now knows that whatever little worldly gains and lusts he got were not worth it.)
For the love of money is the root of all evil... I Timothy 6:10
Author Edmond Paris says that the "gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits" gives Rome power in "so many spheres"--
"...The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars--a situation which may be explained in part by the GIGANTIC FINANCES at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, GIVING THEM POWER IN SO MANY SPHERES..." The Secret History of the Jesuits, by Edmond Paris, p. 9; emphases ours).]
Rome killed true Christians. Her heresies are manifested when someone reads the Bible. She has killed people for reading and translating the Bible. When Christians share the truth of God's word, Catholics who want to know the truth leave her (and so does their money). Rome has kept her reign by deceiving people with a false gospel and by force. Former Roman Catholic priest Richard Bennett boiled down her strategy--(1) get laws on the books in the various kingdoms and (2) then get them executed (see "The Pattern of Papal Persecutions, Then and Now", inquisit.htm).
The Bible reveals that Rome is drunken with the blood of the saints (Revelation 17:6), it intoxicates her, that woman that sits on seven mountains (Revelation 17:9). For centuries, the woman that sits on seven mountains has called Bible believing Christians, "heretics", and herself, "the Church"--but she is the heretic and she is not the church, but is actually the woman of Revelation 17, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH (Revelation 17:5). Christians have known this for ages, the historical record proves this abundantly. Former Roman Catholic Jesuit priest, Dr. Alberto Rivera, is very bold--
OK Knob seriously
1611 bible that is almost 1500 years Newer than the Catholic Bible and EVEN FURTHER from the Original as it is a translation of Latin that is a translation of Greek that is a translation of the Hebrew.
Your whole Post is Stupidity the 1611 Bible is Further removed from Christ than the Catholic Bible Simply by the fact is was made 1500 years later!!!
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Contents
Introduction--practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic church contradict the Bible
If you get saved, do not go join a cult. A lesson from Galatians.
A Note About Tolerance
The Woman is Drunken With Blood--at the instigation of her popes, Rome has shed rivers of blood of Christians who would not bow down to the Pope and Roman Catholic heresies and blasphemies--the martyrs of Jesus
Proof that the Roman Catholic Church is known as a persecuting church
Did the Roman Catholic Church give us the Bible? (history says, "No!!!")
Roman Catholic Tradition contradicts the Bible* repeatedly. [click here to go directly to this section]
*[the Authorized Version of 1611]
* * * Introduction * * *
Practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic religion contradict the Bible repeatedly. In this article, we are going to examine a few Roman Catholic doctrines and compare them with the Authorized Version of 1611 of the Bible. The Roman Catholic church is the largest cult in the world and most preachers will not openly say so because it is so large.
For Catholics who read this--if you will only believe the holy scriptures--the Bible (Authorized Version of 1611)--and nothing else, you can be released from deception today. Just look at the scriptures and compare them to the precepts of Rome. You will not be the first person to read the scriptures clearly and then be saved by REPENTING of your sins and BELIEVING on the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who shed his blood ONE TIME to pay for our sins that we have committed. He died to completely pay for our sins and he rose again for our justification (ref. Romans 4:25). You will not get to heaven by your own works and by following the rules and regulations of a (supposedly) religious organization--the Roman Catholic institution--which is founded on heresies and blasphemies. When we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and read his word, we love him and he helps us to serve him and walk uprightly and understand what we need to know. Salvation is a free gift (reference Romans 5:15-16, 17)--no paying for "masses" (the "mass" is a horrendous blasphemy), "indulgences", etc. No "penance", crawling on your knees, purgatory (there is no purgatory, it is not in the Bible), etc. The Lord Jesus Christ died ONE time to purchase our eternal salvation. All that we have to do is REPENT of our sins, BELIEVE that he died for our sins, was buried and rose again on the third day, and we must also OBEY his word (his commandments are not grievous, reference I John 5:13). In the Roman Catholic church, it seems that the rich man has a better chance in the afterworld (according to her own false doctrine), because he can pay to have the masses performed to relieve himself of time in "purgatory" (which does not exist, but everlasting hellfire does). But in the Bible, we read on this wise, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! and, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Luke 18:24-25). Purgatory is a money maker. The historic sale of indulgences is a money maker. People's souls and purses have been farmed for the devil for centuries on end, "Peter's pence", statue idols, and on and on it goes--and it was done in the name of "Christianity".
The following is excerpted from The Martyrs of Jesus--
The Roman Catholic Church is not Christian; her precepts contradict the Bible repeatedly. Nowadays, it can be heard that the Roman Catholic Church gave us the Bible--but she actually burned Bibles and them that translated and believed the Bible (witness William Tyndale, a good and a great man). Rome is full of heresies (e.g., Mary remained a virgin) and blasphemies (e.g., the mass--many died for not believing this). She has killed multitudes of Christians. She has maintained her blasphemous reign as the so-called "church" by force and deception--not by the truth of the Bible (which she publicly railed against). The Bible reveals who Rome is and is therefore dangerous to her. Why is she posing as the Christian church? False religion is a money maker. Her doctrines/teachings have enabled her to collect wealth, delicacies, adoration, and power for centuries on end. Her doctrines are made up stories consisting of various elements and superstitions and pasted together with some Bible names. Even one of her popes said that the Roman Catholic false Christ (her transubstantiatable "victim,") is a made up fable. When the Roman Catholic "Church" speaks of Christ, it is speaking of its own invention, not the true Christ. That is why her doctrines are diametrically opposed to the Bible, they have been made up over centuries of time. One can find dates when various heresies have been added to the pot (infallibility of the pope, assumption of Mary, etc.). The Bible speaks of people who preach "another Jesus" (2 Corinthians 11:4)--and Rome is in that category.
"Every age knows how useful this fable of Christ has been to us and ours*...8"
8 Fa de Christo fabula. Mornaei Hist. Papatus, p. 820.
Statement attributed to Pope Leo X who was speaking to his secretary Bembo.
(excerpted from History of the Reformation of the Sixteenth Century, Volume 1, Books 1-4
by J.H. Merle D'Aubigne, Legacy Publications edition, p. 51)
*(Rome's doctrines are heresies, lies, blasphemies, and fables--deadly dangerous fables;
these fables are actually destroying people's souls, FOREVER.
"PURGATORY" IS ACTUALLY HELL--HELL IS NO TEMPORARY PLACE OF PURGING, IT IS JUST HELL.
Those that love their own souls need to turn from the Roman Catholic fables and start listening to the word of God.
The word of the Lord is right and all his works are done in truth. There is no purgatory, just heaven and hell.
There is no "seven channels of grace." The only thing that God accepts is faith in the blood of Jesus which was shed to pay for our sins.
The word "purgatory" and the concept of purgatory are just part of the money-making Roman Catholic fable system--
to get out of "purgatory" people have to keep on paying for masses even after a person is D-E-A-D.
Former Jesuit, Dr. Alberto Rivera, said that whole fortunes have been left to Rome so that masses could be said--not leaving money to the family,
LEAVING THE MONEY TO ROME TO PAY FOR MASSES TO GET THEIR SOULS OUT OF PURGATORY.
Pope Leo X (quoted above) now knows that whatever little worldly gains and lusts he got were not worth it.)
For the love of money is the root of all evil... I Timothy 6:10
Author Edmond Paris says that the "gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits" gives Rome power in "so many spheres"--
"...The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars--a situation which may be explained in part by the GIGANTIC FINANCES at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, GIVING THEM POWER IN SO MANY SPHERES..." The Secret History of the Jesuits, by Edmond Paris, p. 9; emphases ours).]
Rome killed true Christians. Her heresies are manifested when someone reads the Bible. She has killed people for reading and translating the Bible. When Christians share the truth of God's word, Catholics who want to know the truth leave her (and so does their money). Rome has kept her reign by deceiving people with a false gospel and by force. Former Roman Catholic priest Richard Bennett boiled down her strategy--(1) get laws on the books in the various kingdoms and (2) then get them executed (see "The Pattern of Papal Persecutions, Then and Now", inquisit.htm).
The Bible reveals that Rome is drunken with the blood of the saints (Revelation 17:6), it intoxicates her, that woman that sits on seven mountains (Revelation 17:9). For centuries, the woman that sits on seven mountains has called Bible believing Christians, "heretics", and herself, "the Church"--but she is the heretic and she is not the church, but is actually the woman of Revelation 17, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH (Revelation 17:5). Christians have known this for ages, the historical record proves this abundantly. Former Roman Catholic Jesuit priest, Dr. Alberto Rivera, is very bold--
OK Knob seriously
1611 bible that is almost 1500 years Newer than the Catholic Bible and EVEN FURTHER from the Original as it is a translation of Latin that is a translation of Greek that is a translation of the Hebrew.
Your whole Post is Stupidity the 1611 Bible is Further removed from Christ than the Catholic Bible Simply by the fact is was made 1500 years later!!!
no problem dick head , now try arguing that with Quill you prick
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Re: Vatican to take in two refugee families as Pope calls for 'every religion' to help
veya_victaous wrote:WTF
the pope isn't christian
Can you seriously get any more ignorant
HOW pray tell to you get that the leader of the worlds largest Christian sect is not a Christian.
Are you seriously that religiously Bigoted
What do you think about the Christian Orthodoxies? which are all centuries older than the King James bible
lol the mormons and jw's consider themselves huge christian sects are they christians...
check out the mother and child cult... you might learn something...
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