French teenager in remission from HIV 12 years after stopping medication

by Guest Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:35 am

A French teenager born with HIV has been in remission for 12 years after stopping her medication, a world-first that renews hope for the prospect of early treatment, researchers said on Monday.The young woman, now 18, is not considered cured, but is doing perfectly well off treatment, said the research led by Asier Saez-Cirion of the HIV, Inflammation and Persistence Unit at the Institut Pasteur in Paris.Never before have scientists known of a case in which an HIV-infected child goes into long-term remission, said the research presented at the International AIDS Society meeting in Vancouver.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11752213/French-teenager-in-remission-from-HIV-12-years-after-stopping-medication.html

by eddie Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:38 pm

Which is where I rest my case.

I've said over and over, that Drs can over medicate and just keep throwing drugs at people.

I stop taking things when I feel I should.

Doctors do not always know best.

by Guest Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:45 pm

eddie wrote:Which is where I rest my case.

I've said over and over, that Drs can over medicate and just keep throwing drugs at people.

I stop taking things when I feel I should.

Doctors do not always know best.

I agree on many mental health situation that long term drug usage is not the answer.
One case though Eddie is not a reason to back your claim though, as thery are not clear if the initial drug usage helped create her here.
I would never see something and go oh well its okay to stop medication if it helped prevent me having a heart attack, would you?

by Raggamuffin Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:49 pm

It's a strange virus. It can lie dormant for years and years in some people after the initial infection has been spotted by the immune system, and become active quicker in others. I think it's unpredictable really. There may even be people who caught the virus and their immune system destroyed it before it could replicate - nobody really knows.

by eddie Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:49 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
eddie wrote:Which is where I rest my case.

I've said over and over, that Drs can over medicate and just keep throwing drugs at people.

I stop taking things when I feel I should.

Doctors do not always know best.

I agree on many mental health situation that long term drug usage is not the answer.
One case though Eddie is not a reason to back your claim though, as thery are not clear if the initial drug usage helped create her here.
I would never see something and go oh well its okay to stop medication if it helped prevent me having a heart attack, would you?

All I can say is, I bet there are many, many people, who are taking meds that they no longer need.
And if I was out in long term meds for a condition then I'd certainly look for an alternative cure - without a shadow of a doubt.
I think some long term medicines cause more problems than they solve.

by Guest Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:53 pm

eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

I agree on many mental health situation that long term drug usage is not the answer.
One case though Eddie is not a reason to back your claim though, as thery are not clear if the initial drug usage helped create her here.
I would never see something and go oh well its okay to stop medication if it helped prevent me having a heart attack, would you?

All I can say is, I bet there are many, many people, who are taking meds that they no longer need.
And if I was out in long term meds for a condition then I'd certainly look for an alternative cure - without a shadow of a doubt.
I think some long term medicines cause more problems than they solve.

Thinking something does not help, like even I have claimed with mental health is nothing more than an opinion which lacks expertise on the helpful use of medication Eddie. I understand your reasoning, of which I have also in regards to mental health with over medicating. Clearly people are living longer and longer and that surely has some correlation to the amount of medication that is there for many people? I am sure we would all like something that is short term, because of the possibility of side effects, but one case is not really a green light for all to stop medicating untill more is understood here as to why this child recovered. The most important thing now is to understand why.

by Raggamuffin Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:54 pm

eddie wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

I agree on many mental health situation that long term drug usage is not the answer.
One case though Eddie is not a reason to back your claim though, as thery are not clear if the initial drug usage helped create her here.
I would never see something and go oh well its okay to stop medication if it helped prevent me having a heart attack, would you?

All I can say is, I bet there are many, many people, who are taking meds that they no longer need.
And if I was out in long term meds for a condition then I'd certainly look for an alternative cure - without a shadow of a doubt.
I think some long term medicines cause more problems than they solve.

There is certainly nothing wrong in taking a "holiday" from medication for chronic long-term conditions, and many people do that. They might also reduce their medication to see if they can maintain their wellness. If the condition comes back, they can always start the medication again.

In the case of HIV, it's a bit risky because if the virus does take a hold when they come off medication, it might escalate quite quickly.

by Raggamuffin Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:59 pm

Interestingly though, there are some drugs which should not be stopped and then started again because for some reason they lose effectiveness if you do that.

The biologics fall into that category.

Also, some drugs start to lose their effectiveness for some other reason, and then others can be tried. That's why it's important for research to continue so that there is a variety of drugs out there.

by Ben Reilly Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:47 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:It's a strange virus. It can lie dormant for years and years in some people after the initial infection has been spotted by the immune system, and become active quicker in others. I think it's unpredictable really. There may even be people who caught the virus and their immune system destroyed it before it could replicate - nobody really knows.

A good point which is sadly lacking in most zombie fiction Smile